Sigur Rós joins Season Four
By Hear Me Roar on in News.

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In another exclusive by Entertainment Weekly’s James Hibberd it has been revealed that the indie band tradition continues this season as well. The producers have booked the Icelandic band Sigur Rós! They are shooting their appearance in Croatia at the moment.

Based on previous experience, it is safe to speculate that they might record a song for the show as well. Previously The National and The Hold Steady performed songs from the ASoIaF universe on the show (and featured on the original soundracks releases), while members of Coldplay and Snow Patrol appeared on screen as well.

Hear Me Roar: Awesome. I was waiting for the Icelandic connection to be tapped. My girlfriend will love this.


127 Comments

  1. Wun-Wun
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:24 am | Permalink

    Hodor?

    Edit: HODOR!!! :)

  2. Alex Greyjoy
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:26 am | Permalink

    The photo is almost Spinal Tap-worthy.

  3. Maester Francen
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:26 am | Permalink

    Hot Pie!

  4. Garlan the Gallant
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:27 am | Permalink

    I assume they’re the singers for a certain Royal wedding

  5. A Secret Baratheon
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:27 am | Permalink

    Oh my God, amazing!!! :-D

  6. The Rabbit
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:28 am | Permalink

    My guess: they gonna perform during PW

  7. Veltigar
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:29 am | Permalink

    I wonder which song they’ll do the Dornishman’s wife or the Last of the Giants? Sadly the chances seem to be small that we’re going to see both. Or they might be singers for the PW… I wonder what it’s going to be. :(

  8. Garlan the Gallant
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:32 am | Permalink

    Veltigar,

    IMO The Dornishman’s Wife would fit better, considering the climax of the King’s Landing plot. It could roll after credits, for example when Oberyn stands up at Court and announces himself as Tyrion’s Champion to fight and take vengeance on Gregor. “ELIAAAAAA!”

  9. cuttlefish
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:34 am | Permalink

    My favourite band in my favourite tv show! Winter is coming!

  10. Tar Kidho
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:54 am | Permalink

    Fantastic, that should make for some hauntingly beautiful music! For those of you that don’t know them, here’s a recent concert.

  11. Tar Kidho
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:56 am | Permalink

    Oh, and how fenomenal would it be to see Björk as one of the Wildlings! ;-)

  12. thrillhouse
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    It’s wishful thinking, but I think it would be great if they managed to get the Hands of Gold are Always Cold sub-plot in Season 4. Now that I think of it, they would be pressed for some King’s Landing filler for Tyrion, so perhaps it is a possibility.

    Having them record it and have it played in the credits after Shae and Tywin’s death would be perfect.

  13. Alen
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    This is really weird… Just last night I was listening to this band for the first time (I heard about them on another site and decided to check them out), and now I hear that they’re going to be on my favorite show. Great news!

  14. GeekFurious
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 6:12 am | Permalink

    Tar Kidho:
    Oh, and how fenomenal would it be to see Björk as one of the Wildlings! ;-)

    She’s already a Wildling.

  15. shuniku
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 6:13 am | Permalink

    Having them play at Joffrey’s wedding makes a whole lot of sense (especially since they’re filming in Croatia), but honestly, the first thing I thought when I read this was “wait, they’re going to have a whole band take on Marillion’s role?”

  16. Hollyoak
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 6:28 am | Permalink

    Tar Kidho:
    Oh, and how fenomenal would it be to see Björk as one of the Wildlings! ;-)

    Now that would be awesome! She would also make a good child of the forest.

  17. Maginor
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 6:33 am | Permalink

    thrillhouse:
    Now that I think of it, they would be pressed for some King’s Landing filler for Tyrion, so perhaps it is a possibility.


    Why? I expect Tyrion to be imprisoned fairly early in the season.

  18. arden
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 6:36 am | Permalink

    He rode through the streets of the city,
    down from his hill on high,
    O’er the wynds and the steps and the cobbles,
    he rode to a woman’s sigh.
    For she was his secret treasure,
    she was his shame and his bliss.
    And a chain and a keep are nothing,
    compared to a woman’s kiss

    For hands of gold are always cold, but a woman’s hands are warm.

  19. Tar Kidho
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious: She’s already a Wildling.

    Is she now? I don’t keep up with all the news and could well have missed an uncredited appearance, but on google I didn’t find any link between GOT and Björk other than the fact that she was the inspiration for Margaery’s famous dress…

    Anyway, as Hollyoak noted she’d be agreat child of the forest as well, maybe that’s an even better fit.

  20. Victoria
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 7:01 am | Permalink

    I LOVE this!!!!!

  21. boze
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 7:03 am | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    He was joking, implying that she already has a wild personality.

  22. House Snow
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    New Ros?

  23. Tar Kidho
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 7:38 am | Permalink

    boze:
    Tar Kidho,

    He was joking, implying that she already has a wild personality.

    High time then that she proves this and makes an appearance, whether D&D want it or not :-) While she’s at it she might also take the time for some guest vocals on the Sigur Ros song… (if they actually write a song, but that’s almost a certainty I’d think).

    I wonder if one of the Wildling languages is gonna be Vonlenska from now on…

  24. Maginor
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    House Snow:
    New Ros?

    Ros out. Ros in.

  25. Red Helm
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    Hollyoak: Now that would be awesome! She would also make a good child of the forest.

    Well THAT is something I’d pay to see!

  26. Ser Lemoncakes
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 7:55 am | Permalink

    They recently made a guest appearance on The Simpsons and their music is featured in the recent BBC drama trailer. I adore them and it amuses me to see them getting so much mainstream (if that concept exists now) exposure!

  27. LittleCatPaws
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    Good band, they should make some lovely music.

  28. Tar Kidho
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    Red Helm: Well THAT is something I’d pay to see!

    the music for the scene could be a slowed down version of The Cure’s “A Forest” in an organic-sounding arrangement by Sigur Rós with interwoven vocals of Jónsi and Björk…………………..(sorry, my mind is flowing away on imagined soundwaves)

  29. Benjamin Wakefield
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    Sigur Ros > The National >>> The Hold Steady

  30. JCarroll
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:11 am | Permalink
  31. Jake Umber
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Wow, this is really big for GoT. Their style of music is perfect for the show, and they’re super talented musicians and great people. This news makes me all giggity inside.

  32. Northern Lass
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    Jesus. My head just exploded.

  33. Valdred Dethstorm
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    It’s highly unlikely, but man, how I’d love to see Rhapsody of Fire or Blind Guardian (they even have a song named “War of the Thrones”) recording a song for GoT.

  34. Sor Duncan, the Tall
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    hands of gold are always cold….

  35. Loki
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Sor Duncan, the Tall,
    …and i am the last of the giants, oooooooooooh

  36. Bill Volk
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    It seems that they’re not going to have the Hands of Gold song in Season 4. We’ve seen a Hand necklace once in season 2, but then in season 3 Tyrion gives Shae plain gold chain that seems like foreshadowing.

  37. Gra o tron
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    Great!

  38. furrever
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Sigur Rós is my favorite band!

  39. Caravaggio
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Echoing what everyone else said. This is huge! And I’m more relieved because this is a band I’ve had prior exposure to (unlike The National and The Hold Steady, LOL).

    I wonder what they could record? I really hope it’s “The Dornishman’s Wife.”

  40. Phil
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    as long as they aren’t going to do a rock version of “The Bear and the Maiden Fair” I’m ok with this.

  41. The_Wanderer
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Yes! This makes my day, Sigur Ros is a great band.

  42. GeekFurious
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    boze:
    Tar Kidho,

    He was joking, implying that she already has a wild personality.

    Indeed. I grew up with her in my face all the time. I should know. :)

  43. Ser VanderAa
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    I doubt they will play any songs with English lyrics though. With the exception of his Solo work ‘Jonsi’ Sigur Ros rarely stray from their iconic hopelandish lyrics.

    I actually hope they will keep it instrumental or do something with an unknown language. Absolutely stoked though. Their music is eerily atmospheric and beautiful.

  44. Vectner
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    I think The Dornishman’s wife is the song, so far there are only two songs in Westeros, it’s time for a third.

  45. Lexyvil
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Just a tad curious: what parts of the show have they performed on so far in the series?

  46. Lauren
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Vectner,

    I do so hope they play us ‘The Rains of Castamere.’ It has been an hour. I’ve forgotten how it goes.

  47. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Ser VanderAa: I doubt they will play any songs with English lyrics though. With the exception of his Solo work ‘Jonsi’ Sigur Ros rarely stray from their iconic hopelandish lyrics.I actually hope they will keep it instrumental or do something with an unknown language. Absolutely stoked though. Their music is eerily atmospheric and beautiful.

    Interesting music choice to supplement Djawadi’s score. Although the “shooting in Croatia” reference seems to indicate a KL scenario for their GoT role, I would think that their surreal music would be better suited for something North of the Wall (like the Bran thread or a CotF scene)….or in Braavos at the House of Black and White as Arya becomes Cat of the Canal and goes blind.

    Hope they do for GoT what they did for the end of Vanilla Sky and, similarly, what Vangelis did for Bladerunner.

  48. John
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Yes!
    Hopefully they perform the song “Dornishman’s Wife”!
    And next season please “Last of the Giants” – are there more songs (with text) mentioned in the books?

  49. Mormegil
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    The whole of Episode 3 is going to be D+D’s favourite bands playing different versions of The Rains of Castemere while the Cast eat a very large meal and complain about the bands.

  50. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    This reminds me, is the role of Symeon cut? I’m guessing yes, since the PW will probably occur early on. It’s too bad because it shows us that Tyrion is capable of ruthlessly killing for selfish reasons.

  51. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    John: Yes!Hopefully they perform the song “Dornishman’s Wife”!And next season please “Last of the Giants” – are there more songs (with text) mentioned in the books?

    Better than this….? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQNrTv0u0Qo

    Love this version….better if sung by a woman, imho.

  52. Jacarb
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    I have to think they’ll be singing in some constructed language, what with both the show and band so notably featuring them already. If they are featured at Joffrey’s wedding they could even have enough time to do a Westeros song in English AND an original foreign song.

    And I really hope the producers let them make up their own, and then call it Lorathi or Qohoric or something.

  53. Uther Greenshirt
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Kamalot! Shadow of Uther :P

  54. Green hands
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think they will have a huge part. I think the writers are cautious to not distract from the world of westeros with guest appearances. The singer of the National had half a second of screen time, I don’t expect Sigur Ros to be part of anything too central. Could be something for Dany…

  55. Awful Awful Knight
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    shuniku:
    Having them play at Joffrey’s wedding makes a whole lot of sense (especially since they’re filming in Croatia), but honestly, the first thing I thought when I read this was “wait, they’re going to have a whole band take on Marillion’s role?”

    Marillion IS a whole band!

  56. Nick_Scryer
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    Don’t know if you’ve seen this but: SPOILER ALERT

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1231594_552840754770568_2000213020_n.jpg

    Looks real except the misspelling of “Margeary” which could just be a typo.
    Confirms a few things if its real.

  57. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer: Don’t know if you’ve seen this but: SPOILER ALERThttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1231594_552840754770568_2000213020_n.jpgLooks real except the misspelling of “Margeary” which could just be a typo.Confirms a few things if its real.

    WtF?? Devilish spoilery indeed.

    My two cents….There is no fucking way that Loras and Brienne could be in the same room with each other without blood spilled between them!

  58. VJ Stark
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Loras doesn’t blame Brienne for Renly’s death in the TV Show.

  59. Nick_Scryer
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    WtF?? Devilish spoilery indeed.

    Indeed, if only we knew what number each actor is so we could make out who else is there.

    I need to know if there’s any truth to the whole “Roose and Walder Frey will be at the wedding” rumor.

  60. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    VJ Stark: Hodor’s Bastard, Loras doesn’t blame Brienne for Renly’s death in the TV Show.

    Howso? He’s never seen her since that shadow-baby night, right? When was that discussed in GoT?

  61. VJ Stark
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU3qx7SfYW0

    Margaery: Brienne of Tarth murdered Ranly.

    Loras: I don’t believe that. You don’t believe that.

  62. BeatleFloydZeppelin
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    He mentions that he doesn’t blame her in one of the episodes in season 2. He says that he knows that it is Stannis that is truly behind Renlys death,

  63. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    VJ Stark: Hodor’s Bastard, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU3qx7SfYW0Margaery: Brienne of Tarth murdered Ranly.Loras: I don’t believe that. You don’t believe that.

    Well, I’ll be a harpy’s bumm! That changes everything for me.

    (…tail between legs….)

    …but how does he know…?

  64. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer,

    If real, this confirms PW is episode 4. Also, whoever let this get leaked may be in some deep trouble.

  65. John
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: WtF?? Devilish spoilery indeed.

    Can’t see the big deal, nothing book readers wouldn’t know or expect and non-book readers shouldn’t click on any links anyway..
    The only spoiler would be the confirmation of a character who many thought could be cut (Dontos) and cutting a character would not have been the first nor the last time..

  66. Jordan
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer,

    I’m not sure if that is a rumor- isn’t that more like just something one poster suggested the show might do?

    RE Loras’ sentiments toward Brienne, that is a problem that the show has him as not suspecting her. I thought that perhaps they could “fix” it by having him become newly suspicious after seeing Brienne being chummy with Jaime.

  67. Nick_Scryer
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Episode 2 you mean?

    It says 402, the bottom says 404 for some North of the Wall stuff.

    And yeah I know, someone’s in trouble.

  68. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    John: Can’t see the big deal, nothing book readers wouldn’t know or expect and non-book readers shouldn’t click on any links anyway..The only spoiler would be the confirmation of a character who many thought could be cut (Dontos) and cutting a character would not have been the first nor the last time..

    Dontos bombarded? …aka “drunk”?

    Regarding this leak, is Edward Snowden now working for GoT? Or is Julian Assuange somehow an extra?

  69. Uther Greenshirt
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    brienne and bronn now thats a table i would like to sit at lol

  70. King Tommen
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Nick_Scryer,

    If real, this confirms PW is episode 4. Also, whoever let this get leaked may be in some deep trouble.

    Actually, it confirms that the PW is in Episode 2 (see all the 402 notes beside the scenes). At the bottom of the slip, they note a set of future scenes that will be shot in 404 which appear to be at Craster’s wood north of the Wall (the long rumoured Rast/Karl and Bran crew confrontation most likely).

    PW in Episode 2 aligns with the only confirmed appearance of Fat Walda (and probably Roose, maybe Walder) in E2 which means that they’ll all be at the PW (again, if true).

    PW in E2 would also make sense as to why GRRM for the first time was given an episode so early in the season.

  71. Jordan
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    King Tommen,

    Its not uncommon for the series to show different locations in the same episode. Just because those characters are in the episode doesn’t mean they will be there.

  72. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    King Tommen,

    Ah, I just saw the episode number at the bottom of the page. I guess people were right in suspecting GRRM would write the PW episode. Now I think the RV vs Mountain dual will be episode 8 and Tyrion’s escape/killing spree will be in episode 9, with him arriving in Pentos in episode 10.

  73. Jacmac30
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Excellent :)

  74. Chickenduck
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Jacarb:
    I have to think they’ll be singing in some constructed language, what with both the show and band so notably featuring them already. If they are featured at Joffrey’s wedding they could even have enough time to do a Westeros song in English AND an original foreign song.

    And I really hope the producers let them make up their own, and then call it Lorathi or Qohoric or something.

    If they sing in a language besides English, it’ll be something DJP creates. The producers have invested waaaaaay too much in the languages being consistent and realistic already – particularly that the Valyrian descendant languages need to make sense with the High Valyrian as established.

    I mean, they could sing in Hopelandic and say it’s a Wildling language, but not the Old Tongue (which I’m fairly confident DJP is currently working on) and not a Free Cities language.

    And yes, I understand that I’m one of only a very small handful of other linguistics nerds who would be bothered by inconsistencies… But if they’ve gone to this much effort already…

  75. Jordan
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    If it were me. Tyrion’s last scene would be him in a boat blind drunk and seedy looking, and I’d parallel that with Arya’s last scene being on board the boat to Braavos.

  76. Steven
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho:
    Oh, and how fenomenal would it be to see Björk as one of the Wildlings! ;-)

    I think she’d be better as one of the Children of the Forest.

  77. Vyrion
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    And about time too I say! This band actually suits the show as well in my opinion in many ways. As much as I liked that Hold Steady tune (well sorry, I didn’t really).

  78. King Tommen
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Jordan:
    King Tommen,

    Its not uncommon for the series to show different locations in the same episode.Just because those characters are in the episode doesn’t mean they will be there.

    Of course not but Fat Walda is confirmed to only be in one episode this season and it’s E2. If this is the episode where the PW occurs, then there’s a decent chance that’s where she (and Roose) are at. There’s not a whole lot of reason for her to show up briefly in any other capacity. Roose is off-screen at this time in the books so it’s a very logical assumption to make that the new Warden of the North would be invited to the Royal Wedding by Tywin and this will help integrate him into the season’s story. There’s not a whole lot of reason to show him with his wife unless it’s at a formal function which she would be expected to attend along with him. I am assuming that Roose will be in more than just E2, and we’ll only see Fat Walda at the Royal Wedding because it’s the formal function. Roose will be doing his own thing in other episodes.

    It would be extremely weird to have the 2 big villains that came out of S3 (Walder and Roose) not even appear in the following season and if book storylines are followed, they don’t do anything over the course of S4. Bringing them to King’s Landing makes a ton of sense.

  79. armsbendback
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if Roose and Frey supposedly being at the wedding also adds to the intrigue of potential Joffrey murderers as Tyrion gets accused and denies it. For the show only audience, it might be possible to think of Roose and Feey as a no allegiance cut-throats who could’ve been instrumental in both the RW and PW

  80. Jordan
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    King Tommen,

    That does make sense. I guess I was kind of reacting against the idea because it seemed to be one of those things where a (reasonable) fan speculation quickly becomes a rumor, and from there, just as quickly becomes a change made by D&D for people to complain about (even though the episode hasn’t even happened yet).

  81. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    King Tommen: It would be extremely weird to have the 2 big villains that came out of S3 (Walder and Roose) not even appear in the following season and if book storylines are followed, they don’t do anything over the course of S4. Bringing them to King’s Landing makes a ton of sense.

    If so, it will be quite a slingshot haul for them to travel from the Twins to KL and back up the kingsroad for S4. They might need LF’s magic bus to get them to various places quickly.

    I agree Roose and Co will be busier during the season than they were in the latter part of ASoS.

    However….Brienne & Roose/Walder at the PW??? This will be crazy!

  82. Jordan
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    RE that last part, that makes me think it wouldn’t happen. And come to think of it, I can’t really see Tywin inviting Roose in light of the fact that one of Roose’s men chopped off Jaime’s hand.

    I’m thinking that the scenes with Roose, Walder, and Walda might more likely involve various Ramsay shenanigans (possibly some of the stuff Ramsay did during A Clash of Kings?)

  83. Chickenduck
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    Jordan:
    Hodor’s Bastard,

    RE that last part, that makes me think it wouldn’t happen.And come to think of it, I can’t really see Tywin inviting Roose in light of the fact that one of Roose’s men chopped off Jaime’s hand.

    Maybe Roose has sent that particular man to the Wall as punishment!

  84. Jordan
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    That’s totally implausible! :)

    Roose punishing Locke is what stops Tywin from going Rains of Castamere on him. It doesn’t (or I wouldn’t think it should) get him a wedding invitation.

  85. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Jordan: Chickenduck, That’s totally implausible! :)Roose punishing Locke is what stops Tywin from going Rains of Castamere on him. It doesn’t (or I wouldn’t think it should) get him a wedding invitation.

    I wonder…Jaime did have that “gentleman’s agreement” with Roose in S3 while trying cut his meat.

  86. Caroline
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Oh my F-ing God! If I had ever imagined having two of my most favourite things in the world brought together, it would be this! I LOVE THIS F-ing SHOW!!!!

  87. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Caroline: Oh my F-ing God! If I had ever imagined having two of my most favourite things in the world brought together, it would be this! I LOVE THIS F-ing SHOW!!!!

    ….uhmmm…need a cigarette? Your excitement might be contagious. :-)

  88. outdoorcats
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Great band. :)

  89. Chickenduck
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Jordan,

    I don’t see it as too big a stretch. Locke’s actions weren’t directly Roose’s fault – and Tywin might not see him as responsible either. Plus Tywin would possibly want the surviving northern lords to see a public vote of support for their new overlord.

    It might be tense, but… Tywin would generally place his family’s political stability over immediate revenge. We still haven’t seen Tywin’s response to the amputation.

  90. Arik
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

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    TheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWife
    TheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWife
    TheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWife …..
    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES !!!!!

    I’m so excited !!!
    FYI love this version…

    http://youtu.be/vrJoAy6-or0

  91. Jacarb
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck: If they sing in a language besides English, it’ll be something DJP creates.The producers have invested waaaaaay too much in the languages being consistent and realistic already – particularly that the Valyrian descendant languages need to make sense with the High Valyrian as established.

    I mean, they could sing in Hopelandic and say it’s a Wildling language, but not the Old Tongue (which I’m fairly confident DJP is currently working on) and not a Free Cities language.

    And yes, I understand that I’m one of only a very small handful of other linguistics nerds who would be bothered by inconsistencies…But if they’ve gone to this much effort already…

    I agree that it is lovely how internally consistent the languages are, but there’s no need for different languages to be consistent. If anything it is unrealistic that a bunch of different languages would have the similarities of being made by the same person. And I’m just talking about one song; there are plenty of languages that are otherwise never going to be heard in the show, why not have two minutes that sound cool, even if they don’t actually translate?

  92. The Young Wolf
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    I’d be absolutely thrilled if we got either The Dornishman’s Wife or Symon Silvertongue’s song.

  93. Chickenduck
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Jacarb: I agree that it is lovely how internally consistent the languages are, but there’s no need for different languages to be consistent. If anything it is unrealistic that a bunch of different languages would have the similarities of being made by the same person.

    I understand your point, but as someone who’s spent a lot of time working with both natural and constructed languages in a professional sense, I can tell you that David’s languages don’t have any major similarities derived from him creating them. Dothraki and Valyrian have very little in common for example. His Defiance languages also have nothing to do with the ASoIaF languages.

    There IS a need for the languages derived from Valyrian (the Slaver’s Bay languages, plus Braavosi, Myrish, Lorathi, Qohorik etc etc etc) to be consistent. The way David works is to start with the proto-language (in this case High Valyrian) and then create the kind of sound changes that happen in real-world language evolution.

    So that e.g. Braavosi is realistically derived from HV in the same way that Italian or Spanish is a descendant of Latin.

    For S4, I’m fairly confident from things he’s said on his blog (and questions he’s avoided) that he’s working on Braavosi and the Old Tongue.

    So if Sigur Rós were to do something in a fictional language (Hopelandic etc), they wouldn’t name it on the show as Qohorik or one of the other Free Cities languages. I guess they might say it’s Ibbenese or Summer Islander or something completely unrelated to the ones already created.

    That said, there have been exceptions in the past, such as Mhysa on the soundtrack having chanting that was meaningless – apparently he was asked to create Valyrian lyrics, but somewhere along the line they weren’t use. Also, some of the lines get edited in post production in a way that makes the dialogue not make sense (though only DJP and some of the real hardcore linguists who nut out the dialogue after the episodes would notice ;)

    Then there has been a few instances where he’s had to reverse-engineer in lines that an actor has improvised (Ian Glen did it once in S2 when they’d overlooked a line that needed translating – but Ian’s ear is good enough that he at least strung a sentence together that stuck to the general sound rules and could be twisted to fit). Oona Chaplin also inadvertently created the only known word of Volantene.

  94. Chickenduck
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Arik:
    TheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWife
    TheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWife
    TheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWife
    TheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWifeTheDornishman’sWife …..
    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES !!!!!

    I’m so excited !!!
    FYI love this version…

    http://youtu.be/vrJoAy6-or0

    I haven’t listened to that version yet – but if I were to guess, then this song would be the most likely for someone to sing at the royal wedding. What with Oberyn there and all…

    Would he be impressed, or take it as an insult, or…?

  95. House Snow
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: WtF?? Devilish spoilery indeed.

    My two cents….There is no fucking way that Loras and Brienne could be in the same room with each other without blood spilled between them!

    Another interesting thing is that it looks like there will be 20 main cast members there.

    Tywin, Cersei, jaimie, brienne, QOT, dontos, Joffrey, Margaery, Loras, Oberyn, Mace, Sansa, Tyrion, Elleria, Varys, shae, tommen. So the question is who are the other three?

  96. House Snow
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    Also there was no way they were going to be able to keep the episode of the PW a secret considering how many extras are on that shoot.

  97. Leo
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    House Snow,

    Pod. Bronn. Kevan. Lancel.

    Speaking of the last two, have we seen them filming yet? There was one picture of a Lannister guard that looked like Kevan, but it was largely unclear. I can see them holding off until S5 for Lancel but not Kevan.

  98. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    House Snow: Another interesting thing is that it looks like there will be 20 main cast members there. Tywin, Cersei, jaimie, brienne, QOT, dontos, Joffrey, Margaery, Loras, Oberyn, Mace, Sansa, Tyrion, Elleria, Varys, shae, tommen. So the question is who are the other three?

    :-) And dwarves, a banker (?), musicians, and what Leo said….It’s gonna be nuts, awkward, festive, and really fun to watch. So many huge chars and egos in one place. I hope the director knows what he or she is doing!

    I’ll be tracking those tears of Lys!

  99. Loki
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    House Snow, SO MANY CLOSE SHOTS

  100. boze
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    It seems that the PW will happen in E2, an Alex Grave’s episode.. he probably knows what he’s doing. ;)

    And no for the banker, since Gatiss has already filmed his stuff.

  101. Jacarb
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    Ah, yes. That they all trace back to Valyrian. Very good point. But I do want to hear them do something unique.

    As the nut who transcribed and partially translated the first Valyrian scene by ear, I agree that DJP does great with variety. Conlangs are an art, though, and in the end artists always leave traces of their style.

  102. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    boze: Hodor’s Bastard, It seems that the PW will happen in E2, an Alex Grave’s episode.. he probably knows what he’s doing. ;)And no for the banker, since Gatiss has already filmed his stuff.

    Ok…what’s to worry about? In Alex we trust.

  103. Loki
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 11:36 pm | Permalink

    boze:
    And no for the banker, since Gatiss has already filmed his stuff.

    they could shot him separately and then add the close shots in post-production. not sure about the point of it, though.

    boze:
    It seems that the PW will happen in E2, an Alex Grave’s episode..

    i’d love that, mainly because of grrms script, but there are a lot of conversations needed to be done before the wedding. like oberyn/mace introduction, tywin/jamie, tyrion/jaime, brienne/tyrells etc.

    Jacarb: Conlangs are an art

    isn’t everything today?

  104. Chickenduck
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Jacarb:
    Chickenduck,

    As the nut who transcribed and partially translated the first Valyrian scene by ear

    That was you? Wow, kudos. You did a good job – I remember DJP and the Mad Latinist commented that they were impressed with your efforts.

    Wait, are you the Mad Latinist?

  105. House Snow
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    They need to fire whoever is making those iteniraries. SepteMMber. Idiot!

  106. Carryboo
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    I F-ing hope so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  107. Maginor
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 2:59 am | Permalink

    House Snow:
    They need to fire whoever is making those iteniraries.SepteMMber. Idiot!

    Everybody writes typos now and then. What is unforgivable is the comic sans font :P

  108. CrimsonKnight
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 3:13 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Some lost Targaryen perhaps…

  109. boze
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 4:39 am | Permalink

    Loki: i’d love that, mainly because of grrms script, but there are a lot of conversations needed to be done before the wedding. like oberyn/mace introduction, tywin/jamie, tyrion/jaime, brienne/tyrells etc.

    I know, but check this production sheet provided by Nick_Scryer above: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1231594_552840754770568_2000213020_n.jpg

  110. Arkash
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 6:13 am | Permalink

    boze,

    If this is genuine, that means PW in episode 4, and Craster’s Keep scenes as well in the episode.

  111. boze
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 6:46 am | Permalink

    Arkash,

    Nope. Read what the left column says.

  112. Nick_Scryer
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 6:54 am | Permalink

    If it’s true it’s going to be one hell of an opening to a season!

    I’m so excited to see it, look how unbelievably gorgeous and extravagant the set is
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BT3hEV4IMAEgbbL.jpg:large

  113. boze
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 7:01 am | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer,

    Nice. :)

    I expect the PW to generate as much buzz as the RW.. but we’ll see.

    And calling it right now: the dwarves stuntmen will come out of the giant lion’s head. ;)

  114. King Tommen
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    If we are to believe that the PW is in GRRM’s episode and that those listed scenes are legit, not only will the PW get the Martin treatment on screen (which should hit all the important notes and carry over the essence of the book narrative) but we’ll also get Martin’s take on conversations that he never got to do in the books during that timeframe like Brienne/Loras, Jaime/Tyrion and possibly Roose/Walder. Lots of really interesting possibilities.

  115. Arkash
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    King Tommen,

    Completely agree !

    And I love the fact that the PW seems to happen by day in gardens, from what we can eventually gather !

    Hope it really gives the feeling of a huge reception in the gardens of the Red Keep with people walking and talking all over the alleys and the camera switching from one group to another very smoothly.

  116. King Tommen
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Having an event as shocking and important as the PW occur in the 2nd episode also helps shake up the formula that the show had set for the first 2-3 episodes of every season being a lot of exposition and set up which would build more to future episodes. It starts the season off with a bang and lets you knock over all of those great ASoS dominoes that have been set up in previous seasons. One great moment after another.

    This has to mean (given the leeches order on the show) that Balon Greyjoy bites it in either E1 or early in E2 (my guess is that he’ll mysteriously be knocked off the bridge as the final scene of the opening episode.)

  117. boze
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    This just occurred to me: The production sheet says that they filmed some stuff around Craster’s keep on Day 43.. which corresponds to last Friday. Now, who was filming on that same day according to Titancon? Thomas Brodie Sangster.

    This could mean that Bran and co will indeed encounter Karl and his group beyond the Wall.. Or this could mean nothing at all, yeah, I know. ;-)

  118. Roekest
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    BeatleFloydZeppelin:
    Hodor’s Bastard,

    He mentions that he doesn’t blame her in one of the episodes in season 2. He says that he knows that it is Stannis that is truly behind Renlys death,

    I always interpreted it as, while he accepts that Brienne did the deed, he thinks she was a plant by Stannis, since they both come from the Stormlands.

  119. King Tommen
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    boze,

    I think that’s been the assumption all along, especially when they confirmed that Rast and Burn Gorman would be returning. It only seems logical that they would encounter Bran and the crew. You need to beef up Bran’s story this season and this would be a good way to do it.

    The only question I would have is whether the mutineers are intact at that point or if they’ve possibly been wight-ified. My guess is that this is how they will intro Coldhands into the mix by having him arrive to save Bran et al, kind of like how he arrives to save Sam in the books by killing all the wights threatening him and Gilly.

    Another aspect of Bran’s story that they will surely tackle is some kind of encounter with Walkers. They specifically showed Sam loading up Bran and crew with dragonglass last season (which didn’t happen in the books) and that is a sure sign that they’ll get to use their new weapons. So there’s a question as to whether this will be mixed up with all of the stuff near Craster’s or a completely different incident later on.

    In any case, Bran’s story would appear to have a whole lot more action involved in it this season than previously.

  120. Hounded
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    King Tommen,

    Season 4 is definitely going to be much faster paced than previous seasons. Episode 1 wil be catch up and meeting new characters then episode 2 will set off the chain reaction…

  121. loco73
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Fantastic news! These guys are excellent musicians! Couldn’t be happier for this great choice, we should be in for something quite special! Welcome, welcome to the show!
    …and now it’s time for me to stop ending every sentence with an exclamation mark…ahh beeeeer. Oh yeah and Winter Is Coming!

  122. Family, Duty, Hodor
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer,

    Wow, great picture!

  123. Hounded
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    King Tommen,

    Wait, where is the indication Roose and Walder will be in GRRM’s episode? Am I missing something?

  124. King Tommen
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Hounded,

    No confirmation at all, just speculation. Many fans have said that involving Roose (and perhaps Walder) in S4 might have them linked up to the Royal Wedding as an excuse for the audience to see them. It also could be the logical point where Roose could eventually depart with Fake Arya in tow.

    This speculation is strengthened in my mind by the fact that Fat Walda’s one and only appearance this season is in E2. If Roose was going to the PW, then an appearance by his wife alongside him at a formal function would make sense. I’m not sure why else we’d be seeing Fat Walda based on what Roose would be up to this season. The Boltons and the Frey’s being the newfounded allies of the Lannisters would garner them an invite to the Royal wedding and it gives both characters something to do.

  125. Loki
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    All I dream about in the next season is Ramsay copulating with his very own Reek.

  126. Hounded
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    King Tommen,

    Ahh ok.

    Yeah the thing I missed was that Fat Walda is confirmed for ep 2.
    And yeah it would for plausible that Roose and Walda (and maybe Lord Walder) were present for the Royal wedding. And it would tie in quite nicely with Roose being there to pick up fake Arya. However I don’t think that necessarily confirms they will be at the royal wedding, they could just as easily be in a scene at the Twins. They could just be laying low and discussing what next. Actually a scene where Roose divulges things he wouldn’t normally tell anyone to Fat Walda because he actually likes her would be interesting… whatever it is time will tell!

  127. Graotron.com.pl
    Posted September 26, 2013 at 3:52 am | Permalink

    I like them, can’t wait to see them in action.


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