Two Creative Arts Emmys for Thrones
By Hear Me Roar on in Awards, News.

The Emmys before the Emmys took place last Sunday with the dishing out of the awards in the Creative Arts categories, the so-called technical Emmys.

Chalk up two for GoT! One for non-prosthetic makeup, and another for outstanding special visual effects. Sadly, nothing for Diana Rigg as guest actress. The full list can be found here.

The big Primetime Emmy night (65th in a row) is going to be this Sunday, broadcast live from LA. Stay tuned.

Hear Me Roar: Frankly, I expected one or two more, if only for the sheer number of nominations. Only one comment remaining: there would be riots in the streets right now had the Thrones production not won in the VFX category.


76 Comments

  1. John-Michael
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 2:30 am | Permalink

    Congrats Thrones!

    Edit: Yeah just thought, if we got stiffed for one of 2 awards this time… let’s hope Thrones doesn’t get stiffed on the real Emmy’s. (Not holding my breath bwahaha) to quote Matthew from Newsradio, “I have been working here for 3 years, and I have been THRICE shafted, let me tell you it does not feel very good”.

  2. hinka
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 3:17 am | Permalink

    Hodor!
    Hopefully we get one or two emmys more this weekend!

    Congrats to the GoT-Team!

  3. Jentario
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 3:52 am | Permalink

    That’s dumb. Last year GOT won 6, and this year was a significant improvement in the technical side. And no love for VFX? Shame!

  4. Ross
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 4:08 am | Permalink

    Jentario:
    That’s dumb. Last year GOT won 6, and this year was a significant improvement in the technical side. And no love for VFX? Shame!

    It won the VFX category (rightly so!)

  5. Jentario
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 4:17 am | Permalink

    Ross,

    Oops. Misread the last paragraph…

  6. Ser Tahu
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 5:11 am | Permalink

    For the primetime Emmy’s I am expecting the following outcome for Game of Thrones:
    Supporting actor:
    Peter Dinklage loses to Jonathan Banks (Breaking Bad)

    Supporting actress:
    Emilia Clarke pulls off a surprise win (simply because the nominated episode is ‘And Now His Watch Is Ended’, and she was brilliant in that episode)

    Best drama:
    Game of Thrones loses to Breaking Bad

  7. Viky
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 5:48 am | Permalink

    good luck to everyone on sunday. Hopefully they win as much as they can!

    Peter has not the best chances I guess this year. I think Emilia’s chances are better. Fingers crossed that both of them win, they deserve it!

    And Game of Thrones is probably losing against Breaking Bad :( we’ll see

  8. BrotherJonas
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 6:23 am | Permalink

    Two is too few, but sadly these will be the only ones they get this year. Breaking Bad wins drama, Mandy Parinkin wins supporting actor while Anna Gunn wins supporting actress. Drama writing will go to Homeland or one of Breaking Bad’s two episodes nominated.

  9. QueenofThorns
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 6:33 am | Permalink

    To be honest, it’s good GoT won emmys and keep winning emmys, but I don’t really give a damn about it. Emmys are not so important. Yeah, winning an emmy is good because you have some kind of recognition for your work, but being nominated is already a great thing !
    Moreover, the emmys ignored great shows in the past, just to give an example “Buffy The Vampire Slayer”, who was maybe nominated for five or six during seven seasons but never won one ! But still, the show is amazing, and is even more popular today than it was in 1997-2003.
    So, yeah, to me the emmys are not essential… I don’t care since they are not proof that a show is really great. At least, in my opinion. :)

  10. Joshua Atreides
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 7:21 am | Permalink

    QueenofThorns,

    Hear hear. The Wire never one a single Emmy. That’s how bullshit the Emmys are.

  11. Bard
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    I also think Breaking Bad will win (and they’d deserve it). Btw, a quick look on Wikipedia tells me that Buffy has never been nominated for a main award (apart from an “Outstanding Writing for a Drama Series” nomination 2000). “Buffy” is far from being crap, but it’s definetely not among the shows worthy of winning an “Outstanding Drama Series”-Emmy.

  12. Tar Kidho
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 7:57 am | Permalink

    I’m afraid GOT will allways have problems winning “best drama” due to the fantasy tag, though I hope I’ll be proven wrong at some point. It just seems like many people more easily relate to shows like “Homeland” on a personel level, as the themes there appear more obviously related to their own lifes. To me GOT actually has more realistic dialogue in many ways than the likes of Homeland, Dexter, all the CSI-clones etc, and hence is more realistic drama than any of those…

    PS: I just watched the 1st series of Under the Dome, directed by Spielberg and Stephen King (on whose book the story was based). Frankly, I couldn’t believe how poor the dialogue and the story were! If that’s the level hollywood is going for these days (which is the case, based on the intellectuel poverty in recent years in big-budget movies), I’m gonna cherrish the next seasons of GOT even more.

  13. mariamb18
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    Joshua Atreides,

    Agree. It makes me dismissive of these awards. For The Wire to have been ignored…a disgrace.

    Breaking Bad has a lot of momentum…and deservedly so. I think that Homeland is a serious contender for Best Drama despite an inconsistent second season because Emmy voters are creatures of habit. And House of Cards is certainly going to get votes.

    GOT is my favorite but there are a lot of great dramas on TV right now.

  14. Turncloak
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu: For the primetime Emmy’s I am expecting the following outcome for Game of Thrones:Supporting actor:Peter Dinklage loses to Jonathan Banks (Breaking Bad)

    Supporting actress:Emilia Clarke pulls off a surprise win (simply because the nominated episode is ‘And Now His Watch Is Ended’, and she was brilliant in that episode)

    Best drama:Game of Thrones loses to Breaking Bad

    I think your predictions are right on the money. Except replace Jonathan Banks with Aaron Paul. Even though I think Banks deserves it more. In season 4 Giancarlo Esposito lost to Aaron Paul even though he had the stronger season

  15. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    Tar Kidho: PS: I just watched the 1st series of Under the Dome, directed by Spielberg and Stephen King (on whose book the story was based). Frankly, I couldn’t believe how poor the dialogue and the story were! If that’s the level hollywood is going for these days (which is the case, based on the intellectuel poverty in recent years in big-budget movies), I’m gonna cherrish the next seasons of GOT even more.

    I’m glad you mentioned it. “Under the Dome” makes a mockery of it’s parent book….it’s a complete rewrite and a joke. The book was almost a downright classic, with environmental and political statements as well as some Shakespearean tones at the end (w/Big Jim Rennie’s demise…almost “King Lear”ish). I totally recommend the book, not the show. That situation makes me even more thankful that we’re getting such a decent translation and interpretation of ASoI&F for GoT. Sooo thankful!

    Back on the topic: Hooray for the continued recognition that GoT is getting!

  16. The Dragon Demands
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    I’m shocked Diana Rigg didn’t win.

    Dinklage won’t win for Season 3, given that he didn’t win for all of his amazingly strong stuff from Season 2 (which was very Tyrion-centric), and Tyrion doesn’t do much in Season 3.

    I hope for a surprise win by Emilia Clarke.

  17. John G.
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Best Drama Writing is almost certainly going to the Homeland episode “Q&A,” which many consider to be the finest episode of the series, and was also written by the recently deceased Henry Bromell. There’s a huge sentimentality factor on his side and it doesn’t hurt that it’s possibly the strongest written episode in contention, and in Emmy’s current favorite show.

    Supporting Actor is probably between Aaron Paul and Mandy Patinkin. Much of this depends which series they favor this year. Homeland had a bit of drop in quality while Breaking Bad is only getting more popular; either series could be this year’s Best Drama Winner. But even if Breaking Bad wins the big prize, Patinkin could still win, as he’s unrewarded and Paul already has two. Patinkin had more to do on his show this year than Paul. Dinklage still has an outside shot, as he had a very strong submission episode. Emmy voters can be hard to predict.

    Maggie Smith is still the frontrunner for Supporting Actress, outside shot for Anna Gunn if there’s a Breaking Bad surge. Emilia Clarke only has 8 minutes of screentime in her episode, although she has a couple big moments.

    I’d guess:
    Q&A
    Mandy Patinkin
    Maggie Smith

    Not expecting any Game of Thrones wins this year.

  18. Tar Kidho
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: I totally recommend the book, not the show.

    That’s what worries me most – if the book was so good, then why the dumbed-down version for tv? (if I hear the words “deep down I guess I knew something was wrong but I just didn’t want to believe it” once more I’m gonna need a new tv I’m afraid – and the show is full of those cliche sayings that are repeated in everything coming out of Hollywood these days)

    But yeah, back on topic now: I’m not sure how I would feel about a win for Emilia Clarke. In a way I’ll be happy because garnering an award is always a happy event, a sign of recognition. At the same time though that little voice inside me will say “out of all the actresses (and actors) on the show, I would never pick Emilia as the strongest performer, so why does *she* get that award instead of them…” Half of the award goes to the role she plays and three little dragons in my opinion. But yeah, personal preferences and all that – if she gets the award it must mean she deserved it. Go Emilia!

  19. Loki
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    “In memoriam” comic con video got deleted. Anyone knows why?

  20. Pau Soriano
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Hey people, just heard (read) some news GoT related, according to an official source from the Sitges International Film Festival, a festival mainly dedicated to horror/fantasy etc they will screen some yet unseen episodes from GoT (and The Walking Dead). I’m speculating it could be the original pilot? Some kind of hoax? here’s the link to the facebook news:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151602406241417&set=a.138221556416.113821.99785876416&type=1&theater

    It’s in catalan but basically says what I just said

    EDIT: Sitges is 30m south of Barcelona. Here’s a link to the festival homepage in english http://sitgesfilmfestival.com/eng/

  21. Jentario
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Loki,

    Maybe it had spoilers in the comments.

  22. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    I really believe Game Of Thrones had the best season out of any of the nominated shows. Breaking Bad’s season 5A was not it’s best, IMO. Seasons 2,3,4, and 5B were all stronger. I suppose the thinking is that the show is overdue and the voters may know they screwed up by not awarding the show last year for a stellar season 4 and will look to atone for their mistake. Which is unfortunate, as this is likely GOT’s best chance to ever win. A win for Homeland would completely invalidate any significance the award has.

  23. Pau Soriano
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano:
    Hey people, just heard (read) some news GoT related, according to an official source from the Sitges International Film Festival, a festival mainly dedicated to horror/fantasy etc they will screen some yet unseen episodes from GoT (and The Walking Dead). I’m speculating it could be the original pilot? Some kind of hoax? here’s the link to the facebook news:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151602406241417&set=a.138221556416.113821.99785876416&type=1&theater

    It’s in catalan but basically says what I just said

    EDIT: Sitges is 30m south of Barcelona. Here’s a link to the festival homepage in english http://sitgesfilmfestival.com/eng/

    Also on twitter https://twitter.com/sitgesfestival/status/380704637156077569

  24. Jentario
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Chances aren’t big, and I hate that because even though season 4 will clearly top it, it will be pit against a ton of quality shows, namely BB’s last season and even though I’ve never watched it people are saying it is easily the best show on TV. And after that, season 5 will surely not win an Emmy and season 6 is a complete mystery assuming it will lean on TWOW material at the very least in its second half… It feels like this is Thrones’ only chance, and it’s a shame that the chance is so small :(

  25. Jentario
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano,

    Really weird. Maybe they will show a BTS video?

  26. Loki
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Jentario, yeah, very funny. but seriously, what’s the deal with HBO deleting its most viewed videos? all the trailers suffer the same fate, no matter how many millions of views they get

  27. Jentario
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Loki,

    The trailer was deleted because of copyright issues on the song that played in the background.

  28. mariamb
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Breaking Bad is getting a lot of positive buzz right now and, because of that, it will win Best Drama…even though S5A may not have been its best.

    I still believe that GOT has a shot at winning for S4. If Breaking Bad wins this year, its momentum may fade by next August/Sept.

    But don’t discount House of Cards – Fincher and Spacey have a lot of appeal.

  29. Pau Soriano
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Jentario:
    Pau Soriano,

    Really weird. Maybe they will show a BTS video?

    Doesn’t look like it, as they talk about “unseen episode” but could be a mistake,as they’re quoting the festival director, but not his exact words…

    EDIT: I’m trying to find a quote of his exact words but on another newspage I see he talks about The Walking Dead Season 4 premier, and about “unseen material from the upcoming seasons of GoT and Bates Motel”. So definitelly a mistake

  30. Loki
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Jentario, again, seriously? they are shooting a 70-million dollars show and can’t afford buying a song for, like, 3 dollars or so? there’s something more than that … something they won’t like us to reveal…

  31. Pau Soriano
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Loki:
    Jentario, again, seriously? they are shooting a 70-million dollars show and can’t afford buying a song for, like, 3 dollars or so? there’s something more than that … something they won’t like us to reveal…

    Yes because the rights of a song cost 3 dollars… -.-

  32. MetalgoddessAMB
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Too few. I thought GoT would repeat in a couple more of these this year. They lost this year in categories they won last year. I’m also shocked Diana Rigg didn’t win in her category also.

    If they don’t win best drama this year, I fear they never will. Next year is Breaking Bad for everything.

    But Special Effects..as long as GoT has dragons, they will always won that one!

  33. Loki
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano, 30? 300? 3000? Still nothing in comparison. They move billions of dollars every year.

  34. Pau
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Loki:
    Pau Soriano, 30? 300? 3000? Still nothing in comparison. They move billions of dollars every year.

    Lol you really have no clue ;)

  35. Conor
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Agree completely with the ‘Under the Dome’ comment. That show’s a joke. The acting is laughable.

  36. outdoorcats
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    I feel like this is going to be the year for House of Cards as Best Drama goes. With GoT the show’s best chance at a major win is best writing for The Rains of Castamere, and perhaps Emilia Clarke will win too.

    But the Emmys are famous for making people who try to predict them look stupid, so we’ll see. I’d love to see GoT win this year. As Martin points out, though S4 might be the peak of the show, it will be competing against the amazing final episodes of Breaking Bad which are currently airing, which should and will be unstoppable.

  37. John G.
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    outdoorcats:
    With GoT the show’s best chance at a major win is best writing for The Rains of Castamere, and perhaps Emilia Clarke will win too.

    Drama Writing is going to the Homeland episode “Q&A.” Game of Thrones’s best chance is still Dinklage, and the chances of that aren’t very high.

  38. outdoorcats
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    QueenofThorns,

    Buffy only got one Emmy nomination which wasn’t technical or music – which was Best Writing for ‘Hush.’

  39. WildSeed
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the Emmy’s List link, Hear Me Roar.
    I don’t watch most of the shows nominated, but I’m not surprised about
    Diana Rigg’s loss. I was a bit disappointed with actress Jane Fonda
    voted out, but my bias means nothing since I haven’t viewed all the
    competing actresses in that category. Fonda will definitely be a contender
    , next year. Since the category or win list is incomplete at present, we’ll
    learn more later , with respects to leading actor/ actress in the cable series award.
    I hope Emilia Clarke puts up a string ballot showing. Really wish Dan Hildebrand
    got the guest cast nod for GoT.

  40. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Conor: Hodor’s Bastard, Agree completely with the ‘Under the Dome’ comment. That show’s a joke. The acting is laughable.

    And yet I still watch it…hoping that the “pink stars” will realign at some point….
    I guess the real question is….Who’s the fool?

  41. Astonished
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu:
    Supporting actress:
    Emilia Clarke pulls off a surprise win (simply because the nominated episode is ‘And Now His Watch Is Ended’, and she was brilliant in that episode)

    It’s already a huge surprise she’s nominated. Winning would be more like ….silly nilly Emmies.

  42. Jamb0
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    The one that continues to baffle me is how GoT doesn’t win for casting. Everyone is pretty much perfect, down to the smallest guest actor.

    And a bit off-topic, but it’s related to awards season/discussion – the show It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia (who’s creators are huge GoT fans) had an absolutely perfect episode this week about why they never win awards. It’s one of the funniest comedies out there, and it’s a shame they don’t even get nominated for anything.

  43. Tar Kidho
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    On rainy days even poor tv can mean a nice way to enjoy time off from work, so I’ll still watch it. But I definitely won’t feel compelled to buy the box set afterwards, which *is* the case with GOT.

  44. Tar Kidho
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Jamb0: The one that continues to baffle me is how GoT doesn’t win for casting. Everyone is pretty much perfect, down to the smallest guest actor.

    Yep, if it stays like this I think at the end we should organize a WiC.net Ceremony in which we give Nina Gold a real award. (if we all chime in it can be something decent!)

  45. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    MetalgoddessAMB,

    Everyone assumes Breaking Bad will win this year and next year. Just as they assumed it would win last year(which it should have). But if it doesn’t win this year, then why should we expect the voters to finally reward it when they didn’t the first 5 times it was eligible? Maybe they just aren’t willing to give the award to a show as dark as BB and GOT?

  46. Abyss
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    I really like that! Seriously, why not do it? A little love from the community.

  47. Ozymandias
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    OT: The more I see of Pedro Pascal, the more I like him.
    He’s definitely growing on me.
    I’m sure he’ll make a GREAT Viper, he has the look of it and D&D said that he was very impressive during his audition.

  48. Shadowcat85
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    It still astonishes me that GoT has not won for casting. I know House of Cards got big names involved, but every actor on GoT has been phenomenal no matter how small the role. It should have beaten Homeland last season too (and I’m a fan of Homeland).

  49. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 19, 2013 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho: Yep, if it stays like this I think at the end we should organize a WiC.net Ceremony in which we give Nina Gold a real award. (if we all chime in it can be something decent!)

    Totally would support that! Besides S1 for obvious reasons, S4 should be her most challenging season yet….maybe next year is her year?

    (Personally, I think the S2 Mountain destroyed her chances…)

  50. Lisa
    Posted September 20, 2013 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    Here’s how I feel. I really want Vincin Gilligan to win an Emmy for Breaking Bad. I agree that season 5A was not its strongest and that 5B is fucking awesome (so far). I’m just worried that it might be forgotten come Emmy time on 2014 since there will be no new episodes. So I would rather him win for a weaker season then not win at all. But I will also be perfectly happy with a GoT win. I don’t watch Honeland or House of Cards so I can’t comment on those. Downton Abbey is ok but nowhere near my favorite and Mad Men is a very very good show. But I find myself not really caring about it when I’m bit watching it.

    However, I can almost see GoT pulling out a surprise win in Drama. (Very surprising). And winning nothing else. It’s weird but it happened with Mad Men a couple years back.

    Writing will go to Homeland
    Supporting actress should go to Anna Gunn but will probably go to Maggie Smith
    Supporting actor- yeah, I have no clue. I could see anyone winning. But Peter is pretty low on the list.

  51. boze
    Posted September 20, 2013 at 5:52 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: (Personally, I think the S2 Mountain destroyed her chances…)

    How?

  52. Melody Pond
    Posted September 20, 2013 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Honestly though, I am a huge fan of the show and its actors, but Emilia should have never been nominated. There are actresses far more deserving of an Emmy nod or even nom.

    If she wins, the Emmy’s are officially no longer an award show that rewards talent, but simply mediocrity and popularity. I know they aren’t at this point, but Emilia really isn’t deserving of this award.

  53. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 20, 2013 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    boze: How?

    *not being serious* – just slapping more shit on the S2 Mountain debacle (imho).

    (love Nina Gold and what she’s accomplished)

  54. sherry
    Posted September 20, 2013 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    Conor:
    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Agree completely with the ‘Under the Dome’ comment. That show’s a joke. The acting is laughable.

    But, you know what? Under the Dome has been the #1 or #2 rated show every week(in terms of number of watchers)that it was on. Makes you wonder, doesn’t it? I quess people simply were sick of reruns and wanted to watch something new no matter how mediocre it might have been. Too bad Game of Thrones can only be on 10 weeks a year. :(

  55. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted September 20, 2013 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    sherry: But, you know what? Under the Dome has been the #1 or #2 rated show every week(in terms of number of watchers)that it was on. Makes you wonder, doesn’t it? I quess people simply were sick of reruns and wanted to watch something new no matter how mediocre it might have been. Too bad Game of Thrones can only be on 10 weeks a year. :(

    …and they’re gonna have a 2nd season of UtD?? That is funny!

    (Only 192 days to go until S4!)

  56. Joshua Atreides
    Posted September 20, 2013 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    Melody Pond,

    Two and a Half Men has been both nominated and won Emmys. Battlestar Galactica and The Wire were never nominated. John Noble will never get a nomination for Fringe. The Emmys credibility ship set sail ages ago.

    Boy you hate Emilia Clarke! I thought she was serviceable in season 1 and faltering in season 2 but starting to fit into the role this season. I don’t think she deserved a nomination for this season, especially over Fairley, Dormer, Headey or Maisie Williams but I think she is improving as an actress. She’s also a great ambassador for the series. For me Dany’s coming into her own parallels well with Ms. Clarke’s growing adeptness with thespianisn.

    If Clarke does win the Emmy, then the optimist in me will chalk it up to the academy members being like minded with the critics and viewers who thought she brought her A game. The cynical side of me will feel that it might be a bid at cultural relevancy for the Emmys.

    In addition, I want Breaking Bad to succeed a the Emmys this year and yes, even next year when GoT has the most chances at winning. I love me some ASOIAF and GoT, but as a film/television connoisseur, deep down I know that this show doesn’t seem concerned with grasping for the excellence of Breaking Bad and other calibre dramas. There is, despite the many moments of brilliance, a sense of unevenness that pervades the series. A symptom of a popular, expensive series that is trying to give props to each of its respective demographics but has yet to find its equilibrium.

  57. Peter
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    While Game of Thrones is well-deserving the VFX Emmy on an artistical level, it somehow feels wrong to award Pixomondo considering their treatment of their workers:

    http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/pixomondo-freelancers-angry-over-late-payments-exclusive-112681

    https://www.facebook.com/PayUsPixomondo?hc_location=stream

  58. MetalgoddessAMB
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    So I watched the first three episodes of House Of Cards last night (I bought it on DVD) It’s good, but I definitely don’t think it was worthy enough to boot Boardwalk Empire out of the Best Drama Category at the Emmy’s. With that said, I don’t think it worthy enough to beat any of the drama’s it’s up against, so if it does, I’ll be very disappointed.

    Something about it I really can’t stand: that Talking into the camera stuff. I’ve never liked this kind of film making device. When I watch something, I want to be a spectator, I don’t want to be part of it, and when you look right at me and talk to me, it’s like you’re trying to make me a part of it. I don’t know, I can’t explain why I don’t like when a show character looks me in the eye and talks to me it, I just don’t, never have. And that aspect of House of Cards put me off of it.

  59. Joshua Atreides
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    MetalgoddessAMB,

    Yeah but the people who are members of the Academy of Television Arts and sciences are not put off by such things as Breaking the Fourth Wall. It’s a Bertolt Brecht conceit that made its way to the British original series and translated to the American version. As such it brings a heightened theatrical element to the proceedings. It’s not a mistake on the show’s part. They went with the talking to the audience not caring that some would be put off. The second half of the season is much stronger and less theatrical with Corey Stoll’s Peter Russo stealing the show.

    Which reminds me. I wonder if D and D want Littlefinger to come off as more theatrical than other characters in the series?

  60. Joshua Atreides
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    MetalgoddessAMB,

    Also if its any consolation the talking to the audience scenes occur less and less as the season continues. Real human drama slowly takes over the theatricality of the Washington DC politicos.

  61. MetalgoddessAMB
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    I will continue watching it, and I do like it. I just don’t think it’s better than BB, GoT or even Boardwalk Empire for that matter.

    My hope is that GoT wins best drama this year, and Breaking Bad is finally rewarded next year. BB has so much momentum right now though, the voters might confuse this current season on TV right now with what they’re actually voting for. I don’t know why they haven’t rewarded it yet, maybe that fact is the reason they’ll wait until next year when it’s all over. Other wise, if it wins this year, it will probably win again next year. It certainly deserves it. and they can’t deny it much longer, just because they don’t like the subject matter, that’s ridicules. it’s brilliant.

    I’ve seen some critics polls and there does seem to be a split, about 2 to 1, For Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones in best drama. I don’t see any other show picked though. Nobody has picked any other program to win, it’s either BB or GoT, so I still think that it’s between those two and no other.

    BTW, depending on what browser I use my name here changes (I jump between firefox and chrome). So there is no confusion, sometimes I am just Anne, sometimes metalgoddessamb.

  62. H. Stark
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
  63. Joshua Atreides
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    MetalgoddessAMB,

    I really, really want to embrace Boardwalk Empire. It looks fantastic, it sounds fantastic, there are some fantastic performances and wonderful characters: Rothstein, Luccianno, Capone, Masseria, Richard Harrow, Van Elden, Gaston Means, Mickey Doyle, Eli Thompson, Chalky White, Durn Purnsley, the late Owen Slater, Jimmy Darmondy and Gyp Rossetti even Gillian Darmody for gosh sakes!

    But…..the two leads do not work at all in my opinion. Kelly McDonald is a good actress but she seems to be the “what was life like for women in those days” cypher and Buscemi who I love as an actor is miscast in this show. A common complaint I know, but with all the awesome stuff going on in the series, their scenes just sit there. At least last season, Nucky was thrown into the main storyline, but they need someone with a bit more bite in the role in my opinion. Too bad Spacey couldnt have been Nucky Thompson! Or Jason Isaacs who was stellar in Brotherhood.
    I enjoy the show immensely but it could be a million times better.

  64. MetalgoddessAMB
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Buscemi works for me. granted, it doesn’t look like a leading man, but he still works for me. and two episodes in this 4th season, and not a sign of Margaret. So maybe the producers figured that out. I think it is moving towards what it really is: A Gangsters of the 1930′s show, not a show just about Atlantic City or just Nucky Thompson. and I like that, A LOT.

  65. Joshua Atreides
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    MetalgoddessAMB,

    Amen sister!

  66. WildSeed
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Atreides:
    Melody Pond,

    Two and a Half Men has been both nominated and won Emmys. Battlestar Galactica and The Wire were never nominated. John Noble will never get a nomination for Fringe. The Emmys credibility ship set sail ages ago.

    Boy you hate Emilia Clarke!I thought she was serviceable in season 1 and faltering in season 2 but starting to fit into the role this season. I don’t think she deserved a nomination for this season, especially over Fairley, Dormer, Headey or Maisie Williamsbut I think she is improving as an actress. She’s also a great ambassador for the series. For me Dany’s coming into her own parallels well with Ms. Clarke’s growing adeptness withthespianisn.

    If Clarke does win the Emmy, then the optimist in me will chalk it up to the academy members being like minded with the critics and viewers who thought she brought her A game. The cynical side of me will feel that it might be a bid at cultural relevancy for the Emmys.

    In addition, I want Breaking Bad to succeed a the Emmys this year and yes, even next year when GoT has the most chances at winning. I love me some ASOIAF and GoT, but as a film/television connoisseur, deep down I know that this show doesn’t seem concerned with grasping for the excellence of Breaking Bad and othercalibre dramas. There is, despite the many moments of brilliance, a sense of unevenness that pervades the series. A symptom of a popular, expensive series that is trying to give props to each of its respective demographics but has yet to find its equilibrium.

    I agree with your summation, Joshua, a nod to your astute insight on the subject.
    And looking at GoT in the perspective you lent, away from the critique of the incongruent
    detail or brilliant moment, there remains an imbalance that insist on equilibrium, as a whole. However I ‘m doubtful that much of this ( or all ) , pertains to the production’s
    hope to sway all it’s demographic ( audience ). There remains the perception
    that the executive producers, whom supervise the creative content, hope to depict
    ASOIAF in a way that satisfies their intent as well. Game of Thrones is at best,
    a story unfolding or molded as Benioff & Weiss understands it, which may
    slightly deviate from, or revise the original content. Something any adaptive
    cinematic series ought to do, for fresh concepts. The gamble is, sometimes this works,
    and some times it fumbles. My hope is that there is a learning curve, for the
    series, with each season growing in momentum, and equilibrium. A measured
    or qualitative success. Let’s hope the pragmatic interpretation proves good or
    excellent, in the seasons to come. Only then, BTW, will I closely scrutinize Headey
    or Costa-Waldau, for their respective performances. I think Clarke is holding her
    own, for now. Though Kip Harrington has to either get a better script or improve
    his performance. Shame that Fairley or Hildebrand didn’t get recognition this year.

    Accolades have recognised the merits of their efforts, despite the strong
    contenders like Vince Gilligan’s BB production. Next year’s network lineup
    may change the landscape altogether. With the exception of the second half of
    Breaking Bad’s likely nomination, the competition may be weaker…… or not.
    We’ll see.

  67. Joshua Atreides
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Thanks for the nod friend! Forgive me as its been a day of errands and I am all but brain dead but I am confused: you do or do not like Coster-Waldau and Headey’s performances?

  68. WildSeed
    Posted September 21, 2013 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Atreides,

    They’re fine, and suitable given the confines of their stories, and the script which
    is written to their individual strengths. I enjoy them both, with respects to the overall
    Lannister contribution, although I confess a bias towards Tyrion and Tywin’s onscreen
    performances. That noted, I really did not appreciate Jaime or Cersei Lannister
    until later volumes of ASOIAF. I am looking forward to the onscreen presentations
    of each, for that phase, although I caution myself for expecting key co-players
    Jaime’s aunt or lady Merryweather , that I’d hope for inclusion. Jaime
    will get to his redemption phase, as Benioff & Weiss sees it, primarily as a
    love story with Brienne
    , but I secretly hold out for a more in-depth perspective.
    And really, I’m in no need to rush things, but Cersei’s future
    machinations are enough to leave my jaw agape. These are
    only taste of how much more challenging their respective
    performances would be challenged or rated award worthy,IMO.

  69. Ours is the Fury
    Posted September 22, 2013 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    H. Stark: Gendry is coming back?

    https://twitter.com/EroLama/status/381455992242069504

    Altin and Dempsie are together because they’re filming another project called “New Worlds,” not GoT. The tweet isn’t really specific, it’s just a generic comment that is secondhand. “Season 4 is gonna be awesome, they said.” We know Altin’s working on S4 quite a bit. And he’s a talker. Dempsie hasn’t been sighted in Belfast at all so far, but that’s not a guarantee, of course. So I guess we’ll see.

  70. Turncloak
    Posted September 23, 2013 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Looks like GoT missed its best chance to win the best Drama emmy in the near future. Breaking Bad will win again next year and then the Madmen season 6 part two finale the year after

  71. Teresa
    Posted September 23, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Well, so much for my prediction for the Best Drama win. From now on, I’ll just be happy and content with any nominations they can get.

    (Very surprised by Diana Rigg not winning.)

    (And Bobby Cannavale, really?)

  72. Mkat
    Posted September 24, 2013 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Emilia Clarke got robbed of that emmy people! I was soooo disappointed and pissed off. Of all GoT seasons she was fantastic last season as Dany! Please tell me some people agree!

  73. WildSeed
    Posted September 24, 2013 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Mkat,

    If Clarke was challenged by Laura Linney, then you have a point. If Anna Gunn
    was her challenger, there’s no way Clarke could or should have taken away the
    award. I really like Claire Danes’s character too, for that possibility, Emilia
    could have edged passed, to gain enough winning ballots. I really hope that
    the Emmy committee finds a balance, next year, to appropriate character
    growth and rising talent, that Emilia continues to prove, over the singularity
    that describe Danes.

  74. WildSeed
    Posted September 24, 2013 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Teresa:
    Well, so much for my prediction for the Best Drama win. From now on, I’ll just be happy and content with any nominations they can get.

    (Very surprised by Diana Rigg not winning.)

    (And Bobby Cannavale, really?)

    Have you ever viewed the show that won, ” The Good Wife ” ? No ? Neither have I.

    I had no opinion for that category as I was only familiar with Riggs and Fonda.
    For them both, they were both good, however never rose above the script, or in
    any way challenged previous performances they’d each acted from previous
    projects, respectively.

    Some actors are so good, they could sleep walk through their roles. Ever watch
    Jeremy Irons in his onscreen pope role , for the Borgias ? He’s a great talent,
    otherwise.

  75. Stormborn Groves
    Posted September 25, 2013 at 1:26 am | Permalink

    John-Michael,


    Total bull!!! About the Emmys! I watch a quite a few of these shows, but come on!!! I’m 23, and I started reading the books when I was about 11 years old. Stupid politics. Game of Thrones owned this year, seriously how could it not win for best drama series, and best writing. The red wedding or rains of castamere… seriously best moment of T.V ever. I’m so upset. That was amazing. Even though I cried when I read it years ago, I watched the episode so many times and I finally stopped crying after watching it.. well a lot. Seriously though Emilia Clarke should have won for sure, learning a made up language. As well as the powerful performance… poo on you emmys poo on you.

  76. Graotron.com.pl
    Posted September 25, 2013 at 3:57 am | Permalink

    Stormborn Groves,

    I totally agree – Emilia Clarke deserved an award. Too bad she didn’t get it…


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