Game of Owns: Battle Fever
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Episode 180 – Battle Fever

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ACOK Chapter 61: Tyrion XIV
The battle rages forward, across a vast bridge of burning boats that once carried the hope of brave, brave men. Accompanied by Podrick, Tyrion and the GOO crew bring you the first chapter and episode of 2014.

 

 

Discussion Topics
Happy New Year!
Battle fever
The bridge of boats
Brutal battle realities
Friendly fire
Owns of the Chapter


5 Comments

  1. Aldi_A
    Posted January 1, 2014 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Hodor!

  2. Howland Reed
    Posted January 2, 2014 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    Your comments about George’s battle writing was interesting as I’ve read a good deal of criticism about how he’s not very good at writing battles, especially compared to Tolkien. I always liked how he did it as the battles are rarely a focal point from his POV’s, with a few notable exceptions that are very well written.

  3. Lord Davos
    Posted January 2, 2014 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Howland Reed,

    In my opinion, I think that Martin does battles trough and trough.
    This whole story is told from a personal point of view
    and battles are most of the time important instances for the POV person.
    If a character is thrown in battle i think it is just right that we see that battle.
    Martin centers his story dedicated about the characters experiences,
    and i cant say Tolkien is as ‘grounded’.
    Tolkien always tried to make the narrator like some general that kept an eye at every different post, a great overview, god-view to say.

    If Tolkien had written ADWD, we wouldn’t have experienced the intimate phase with Jon and Dany, i guess he would have summarised the political plot points, and maybe forced some Deus Ex on them both, to get the action started.

    Martin and Tolkien both stay true to their style-
    one is closely intimate and the other airy but to the point.

  4. Jon Blackfiyre
    Posted January 2, 2014 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    How did nobody give Tywin or the Tyrells the own for this chapter. Tyrion look accross and sees battle on the south bank that confuses him because there are no forces there. Thats because thats twyin and the tyrells kicking ass and saving the day.

    Lannisters are the bad guys???? NOT true. You have to remember theres not really bad guys in this story. At least not as the family as a hole. Jofferey yes a bad guy. Cersie probably but thats cuz she batshit cray. Tywin, depends how you look at it. He might not get father of the year but he does good things for the realm. Tyrions not bad, Jamie deffinately not bad. Kevins good. lancels dumb not bad. You have to remember that for the most part POVs shape our view of the world. You have to take what people say with a grain of salt. Its not til we start to get Jamie POVs that we realize hes pretty cool. Just remember that a few bad apples dont mean the whole baskets bad. We get told in the books that all the houses have there bad apples. When I read I try to actually put myself in there shoes and justify the moves each POV makes.

  5. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 2, 2014 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Howland Reed:
    Your comments about George’s battle writing was interesting as I’ve read a good deal of criticism about how he’s not very good at writing battles, especially compared to Tolkien.I always liked how he did it as the battles are rarely a focal point from his POV’s, with a few notableexceptions that are very well written.

    Read “The Princess and the Queen”, which was just released in December as part of the Dangerous Women anthology. It is 80 pages of massive, bloody battles with armies and dragons. It is told from the perspective of a maester historian. I wish it had a deeper, more insightful perspective via a PoV but it is a memorable tale of how the crazy, vain Targaryens destroyed themselves and almost destroyed Westeros as well.

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