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Season 4 Trailer Live Comment Thread

Joff Marg S4 It is almost here!  In case you missed the mass chaos that was the trailer of the trailer, the full S4 trailer is scheduled to air tonight at 8:58 p.m. est, just before the Series Premiere of True Detective on HBO.  Feel free to chat about it here before, during, and after.  DVR. Pause. Analyze. Repeat.

Winter will be along later to post the trailer as soon as it is uploaded.  Please remember to use SPOILER TAGS in the comments so that the Unsullied may lurk safely.

Oz:  Should I be ashamed that I am considering having a viewing party for the trailer alone?  Oh well.  Enjoy fellow WiCsters!

218 Comments

  • I guess I’ll go to sleep dreaming of the trailer, then.

    I’m going to work tomorrow morning, and I’m not really looking forward to it. Fortunately I’ll have the trailer start off the day in a magnificent way, and all workday long I’ll be thinking about it – it’s really good to be a GoT-fan/WiC-follower sometimes.

  • Oz:
    Should I be ashamed that I am considering having a viewing party for the trailer alone?

    No way! Resistance is futile! Open your arms and let it flow through your soul….Hope the libations are plentiful…

  • Nick_Scryer:
    How awesome is GOT that we have such excitement for a 2 minute trailer lulz

    Staying up until 3 in the morning to see it, screw college tomorrow :)

    College for me starts tomorrow but I live in US Central time, so it’ll be 9PM when I see the trailer :)

    Good thing we don’t do crap on the first day of classes so I’ll probably just leave early, come home, and watch the trailer (and read the internet) some more!

  • Soooo…

    Still no official word if the dragons will be bigger… Let me throw some speculation down. This is my opinion.

    I think the dragons will be a little bigger and look a little different (more mature).

    I doubt we will see any cool Drogon CGI clip because its probably to early for that stuff to be ready.

    But I guarantee if we do get even a 1 second clip of a larger and slightly different (more menacing) in appearance Drogon, that will be the “Holly Shit!” Nerdgasm moment for the masses.

    Game of Thrones has so much going on and to look forward to but as a lot of other people have said throughout the years…

    “We got dragons bitch!”

  • GeekFurious,

    I hope you’re right!

    But it could be like season 1 to 2 when they didn’t grow…

    I think they will be bigger also but I’m not going to blow my hopes up until we see them bigger or official word lets us know they will be bigger…

    (Really hoping we get a peek of a bigger Drogon tonight for sure)

  • Arthur,

    I think they will be the size of horses, or close to it. If they plan on Drogon eating a child, then they will need to be much bigger than last season.

  • Arthur:
    Still no official word if the dragons will be bigger…

    In this case, size does matter. All children and halflings should be running for cover now!

  • This thread reminds me of the episode of South Park where the boys were waiting to watch the trailer for the new “Terrence and Phillip” movie. Hopefully our night is less eventful.

  • Unfortunately, being in Italy I won’t be able to watch the trailer until the morning…I’m just hoping we get to see at least a tiny little glimpse of Sandor….prety please, HBO? :-)

  • it’s 00:16 here. I think I’ll go to sleep.
    I expect to see big and mean looking dragons in the morning.
    It will be a nice monday!

  • Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    I hope so…

    I don’t want to get into the whole debate of “If the dragons get bigger the CGI budget would have to increase”, I personally think it is a reality that the CGI budget will have to increase season by season if we expect the dragons to have equivalent screen time while growing larger and demanding more detail and area affects. I hope D&D and HBO work that out… That is the only reason I think we may not see bigger dragons… Cost. I hope I’m wrong, HBO understands and dragons keep getting bigger…

    If the dragons are bigger and get a decent chunk of screen time, that coupled with how amazingly badass the Red Viper’s first official images look….

    This season is going to be thrilling.

    But even if Drogon is the same size, yeah ill be a little disappointed but I understand and there’s that other 95% of the show to watch =]

  • I live in the UK and have to be up for work at 8am but screw it Im staying up until 2-3am to watch this bad boy. Will be so worth going to work pretty tired tomorrow!

  • I now have a motivation to Finish ADWD which to be honest has been a hard slog… Dam you EST. Im in Frankfurt on CET feel I have to wait an extra three hours for no reason.. Whens the Hodor stand up show coming..???

  • it’s 6:43 AM here and i’m still waiting eagerly for awesomeness .. i’ll skip today’s class and i’ll watch the trailer 1000 times till i get old.. it’s sad to say but .. it’s totally worth it

  • This will be an ‘at breakfast on my phone’ thing tomorrow morning. And then I’ll probably watch it another 50 times just to be sure I don’t miss anything.

    I wasn’t excited for the show’s return last year due to mucking up season 2, but by the gods I am excited for S4!

  • So when I lived in Ireland I would wake up knowing the American Night Event would have happened already. Now I’m in Sydney my WiC/GoT timetable has gone haywire! I’ve been awake for HOURS and it’s still not yesterday 8pm on the East Coast of America.

  • Johan Sporre:
    This place will go nuts in 4.5 hours.
    True Detective is supposed to be great too.

    Especially if your a fan of Alexandra Daddario…

    But the series itself looks awesome.

  • A wildling Bastard:
    it’s 6:43 AM here and i’m still waiting eagerly for awesomeness .. i’ll skip today’s class and i’ll watch the trailer 1000 times till i get old.. it’s sad to say but .. it’s totally worth it

    Indeed it will be.

  • loki:
    Tyrion Pimpslap, they said. 8:58. they didn’t mention seconds. always assume the worst.

    They already released at least half a minute worth of footage in the form of the teaser trailer and the vines videos, I dont think theyll generate so much hype for a one minute trailer. Slightly over 2 minutes is what Im hoping for. 2 minutes is what Im expecting.

  • Arthur:
    Will we see dragons?

    Fiddlesticks!
    After four seasons , will we , for god’s sake, get the Dragons named?
    Page wise they have had names for a long long time.
    Tired of the excuses there has not been a spot in the dialog for it.
    (Don’t expect it in the trailer , but it’s season four gezz!)

  • Boojam: Fiddlesticks!
    After four seasons , will we , for god’s sake, get the Dragons named?
    Page wise they have had names for a long long time.
    Tired of the excuses there has not been a spot in the dialog for it.
    (Don’t expect it in the trailer , but it’s season four gezz!)

    True that.

  • Boojam: Fiddlesticks!
    After four seasons , will we , for god’s sake, get the Dragons named?
    Page wise they have had names for a long long time.
    Tired of the excuses there has not been a spot in the dialog for it.
    (Don’t expect it in the trailer , but it’s season four gezz!)

    Actually, I think Bryan Cogman stated last season that we would be getting their names in Season 3, but it never happened. So I guess some scenes were pushed to season 4? There were a few more scenes that Ciaran Hinds filmed as well that we didn’t get to see.

  • ebevan91,

    Cogman didn’t say that exactly – he said they already DID have their names and were referred to as such in the director notes etc, they just hadn’t come up in dialog.

    He did confirm that they’re the same names as in the books though.

  • In the past they have told us 2 minutes and usually it’s closer to 1:20 or 1:30 ,so that’s what I’m expecting.

  • I’ll watch it first thing in the morning tomorrow before going to my fist final! screw last minute cramming.

  • Sam:
    Over/under on comments sayingthis season will be the worst based on one minor change in the trailer?

    It’ll probably be a lot. We already had helm gate when the vine of RV vs Gregor was released.

  • GG, who doesn’t enjoy tentacle hentai?

    WeirwoodTreeHugger:

    It’ll probably be a lot. We already had helm gate when the vine of RV vs Gregor was released.

    but… the arena wasn’t big enough! both shield and helmets were absent! and that ballet thing the red viper did! I just can’t!

  • I’m in France, but I have nothing special planned tommorow morning !

    I can stay up late, and I’ve got the new Sherlock to keep me waiting !

  • loki,

    No one ever complained when Achillies took off his helmet in ‘Troy’… This duel to the death is very similar.

    Also the flipping stuff, I like it. I think it’s more than justifiable because the Red Viper is all about speed and agility (and poison).

    So it’s really a good usage of some choreography to show how agile the Red Viper is as he avoids the Mountain’s sword swings while taunting him the whole time.

    I agree it’s not totally true to the books but things have to be changed to make a more effective TV show. It’s all about making a great adaptation which by definition means it’ll be different than the books…

  • Hurry up and end crappy Tom Cruise movie, I need my season 4 trailer!!!!

    Oh and ‘ello fellow Throners

  • As much as I love GoT, I can’t warrant staying up until 5, I’ll be finishing ADWD Pt. 2 tonight though!

  • Seeing footage makes the wait harder for me.

    “Wow this is great! OMG I have to wait HOW long to see these full scenes? Fuck off!”

    I’m not about to not watch it. But it will be awesome and horrible simultaneously.

  • GG:
    loki,

    Me :P I’ll stick to the old fashioned stuff tvm. But to each their own :)

    “Old-fashioned”? Who says tentacle pr0n can’t be old-fashioned? Google “The Dream of the Fisherman’s Wife” (NSFW).

    Japan says You’re Welcome!

  • “DIG UP THE BONES BUT LEAVE THE SOULS ALONE” keeps repeating in my head. It seems like just yesterday the trailer played for season 3, NOW. In reality it’s been an awful wait for season 4, starting the second last season ended.

  • Arthur,

    Also, that is a cut of a few shots from the duel, they aren’t in sequence just like the cut of two different scenes in the gif of Tormund and then Jon. The RV v Mountain gif showcases those acrobatics, which will be in the fight, but not back to back like that. In the first shot, the Mountain has a chainmail hood on (there must be a proper name for it) and in the last shots he doesn’t. That indicates that the gif is made up of excerpts from a larger more complex fight, not just a series of flips. For all we know those quick shots are minutes apart.

  • Oh my god, this movie has to end, like, NOW! Come to me Season 4 Trailer, come to me… I really hope to see some dragon action in this, and some quick view of the giants in the Battle of the Wall, but I think this is asking way too much.

  • Yago: You never disappoint.

    There must be at least one penile mention per thread, or else I don’t get paid.

    If you see Phil tell him that the Rangers are shitting on his Flyers house. Let’s Go Rangers!

  • They have 10 episodes and a billion camera angles worth of shots to make and actual full trailer for. How do we know they will be using every second of the vine footage and the teaser?

  • Yeah, how quickly does a trailer usually get uploaded by HBO or others to youtube? Are we talking minutes or hours?

  • Greenjones:
    Arthur,

    Also, that is a cut of a few shots from the duel, they aren’t in sequence just like the cut of two different scenes in the gif of Tormund and then Jon. The RV v Mountain gif showcases those acrobatics, which will be in the fight, but not back to back like that. In the first shot, the Mountain has a chainmail hood on (there must be a proper name for it) and in the last shots he doesn’t. That indicates that the gif is made up of excerpts from a larger more complex fight, not just a series of flips. For all we know those quick shots are minutes apart.

    I believe it is called a chainmail coif

  • Greenjones,

    Yeah makes sense…

    I was just trying to say that the Red Viper’s fighting style is all about poke, jab, avoid, poke, thrust, avoid and so on. So D&D letting him have some cool martial art type flips and things like that to avoid things is totally within his character element.

  • I love that there’s nearly 100 comments on the thread yet the trailer hasn’t even aired yet! :P

    And Oz, don’t be ashamed – I’d totally attend such a party! We would rewind and watch it repeatedly, overanalyzing the hell out of it. :D

  • sjwenings,

    Dude you’re in WiC.net… Some computer tech fan will link you one probably before WinterPhil can even make a new thread.

    I stopped worrying about stuff like that a long ago. Someone on this site will create a link really fast… Guaranteed.

  • Off topic: Denver Dothraki vs the NE Lannister Lions for the AFC championship!

    Back to topic: One hour to go!

    Off topic again: SanFran Stags vs the Seattle Wildlings for the NFC champ?

  • >.< At work right now, hoping for a prompt link when it is released.

    Also, I must say I find Margery's hairstyle in the shot above quite amusing. All I can see is Bride of Frankenstein …. and she's marrying Joffrey ….

  • Khal_ Rhaego,

    I don’t think this first trailer will be as good as that haunting “Dig up the bones but leave the souls alone” one, only because its way early and I doubt we will see a lot of awesome stuff coming in season 4…

    Unless D&D really thought ahead and had the CGI company’s work on what they planned to show in the trailer first…

    I think if we get a shot of Drogon, and he is bigger and more menacing looking, this trailer will be amazing… And that would be a huge sign even this trailer’s production was well thought out.

    If not, the next trailers to come out will have more of the big events.

    This is all my personal opinion so please forgive me if anyone disagrees.

  • Chickenduck,

    You know what I mean as well as I do :P

    I have a lot of things to thank Japan for(Shigeru Miyamoto, Fullmetal Alchemist & Pokemon to name a few). That is not one of them.

  • Arthur,

    I wonder who GoT will make famous this year by using their song… Definitely hoping for something else haunting like “Bones”

    As far as what’s shown in the trailer…guess we’ll see in 50 mins and counting!!!

  • HBO probably already uploaded it to Youtube and kept it a private video so that they can un-private it when the time comes…

  • Khal_ Rhaego,

    ‘Vikings’ made that ‘Glory and Gore’ song sell like crazy on iTunes just with a tiny teaser…

    So I can only imagine how much DL’s of whatever song GoTs uses this year will go up by… I know if I like it ill be buying it right away.

  • Sam:
    Over/under on comments sayingthis season will be the worst based on one minor change in the trailer?

    76.

  • Khal_ Rhaego,

    Have you seen the Trailer Tease ? The song of the Trailer will be “Feral Love” by Chelsea Wolfe.

    It’s nothing like ‘Bones’ but I love it.

  • Speaking of Bones, does anybody know why they deleted the original season 3 trailer and reupladed it with a completely different (and background-y) song ?

  • JoffreyTrueKing, they do this for every trailer that gets popular, they remove it from the channel so people wouldn’t have access to it. the reasons behind this are probably the same reasons they made Salvador Saan black and cut out all of Edds jokes.

  • This place is awesome. Not too long to wait now, and I’m also really excited for True Detective and the season premiere of Girls. With Justified back on as well, I’m just glad to have things to watch while I wait for the fourth season of GoT.

  • It sucks not having HBO anymore. I got lucky and managed to get a 3 free month subscription back during season 3.

    I guess I’ll just have to legally purchase the episodes for season 4.

  • Waddayouno, I’m still up! I suppose i HAVE to wait now…

    Only half an hour left, right?

    Edit: Already answered, I see

  • Ozymandias,

    Awesome!

    Just listened to it. You’re right it has a very original sound. It’s simple yet makes your mind enter into a “trance of wonder”.

    That will be very effective background music for the new trailer.

    Thanks for the linkage!

  • Ozymandias:
    Arthur,

    You’re welcome ! :)

    Do you guys think that the Trailer will be longer than 90 seconds ?
    I really hope so

    I hope it’s at least 1 minute. Maybe 1:30 like the Season 3 extended trailer.

  • Golden Globe Alert!!!: I was just going to let the snub of GoT go but just realized that the travesty that is “The White Queen” was nominated for best miniseries – cannot believe this! That show did not even approach GoT in acting, writing or production. Even the history was twisted into some unrecognizable story of the Lancaster v York timeframe. Sorry, just had to vent – geez, Hollywood foreign press, get your act together!

  • GeekFurious,

    I don’t know if anyone has chimed in about this already, but I heard from some friends that they were working on new and bigger dragon models for the show. However, I don’t know if that’s for this season or next season

  • Khal_ Rhaego,

    I’ve seen worse. I remember going into watching it thinking it would suck, but it wound up being decent. Plus, Nicaloj Coster-Waldau(Jaime) is in it.

  • loki,

    The arena’s not meant to be big. Remember the bystander the Mountain killed by accident? The arena’s supposed to be small. As for helm & shield, are we really down to criticizing teh decor? Acting in a fight is hard enough. Trying to convey the emotion of the scene with a giant helmet on is next to impossible. Emotion>helmets. Plus, if the helmet’s on, it’ll interfere with our viewing of the…………..fireworks.

    Although I do agree about the spin. I know he’s flamboyant but that’s a bit much. We’ll see.

  • I see Westeros.org is still broken. Time for them to upgrade, I think.

    Imagine that website if the release date for The Winds of Winter was announced.

  • OMG! Meereen looked awesome! The hand! The RV! YarAsha in a longboat! Gotta watch it again…and against…and again…

  • As always, Bran gets a pathetic of half a second of a clip. So are Arya and Sansa. Do they only put up the big name actors in the trailer?

  • That was awesome!!!! Now I can finally go to sleep. And rewatch and rewatch and rewatch and rewatch tomorrow

  • Robin,

    How would you know what their interpretation of Meereen looks like? Use your common sense, of course it was Meereen. Anyways, crazy arrogant Dany has arrived. And the RV speaks with a Spanish accent, just as I imagined while reading.

  • Robin:
    Hold on, was that a dragon flying over the Red Keep???Because that didn’t look like Mereen.

    D&D are trolling the unsullied…

  • Robin,

    Yeah, that just doesn’t make sense. Is it done especially for the trailer? I don’t think so. Maybe it’s a dream??? What the hell??? I’m not talking about spoilers here, but last season the dragons were maybe as big as a medium sized dog. That shadow was huge, they can’t grow that fast!!! A dragon keeps growing all his life, and they live over a century…. what are they doing???

    Maybe we’re concerned about nothing, and that was just the shadow of a pigeon :)

  • Thought that was Lady Stoneheart around 1.22.. But think it was Arya..Be interesting how they work this and how they kept a closed set during the filming..? or will it move to Season 5..??.

  • Drogon is HUUUGE! Worried about Tyrion in shackles as spoiling the outcome of the RV duel (since people see he gets imprisoned obv) RV Doesn’t sound the way I’d imagined bu he does look pimpin with that spear. The Mountain looks great also! Who is LF talking to? ZOMG need to rewatch another 50 times.

  • vlad:
    Robin,

    Yeah, that just doesn’t make sense. Is it done especially for the trailer? I don’t think so. Maybe it’s a dream??? What the hell??? I’m not talking about spoilers here, but last season the dragons were maybe as big as a medium sized dog. That shadow was huge, they can’t grow that fast!!! A dragon keeps growing all his life, and they live over a century…. what are they doing???

    Maybe we’re concerned about nothing, and that was just the shadow of a pigeon :)

    The only logical explanation could be it’s just a dream, I think.

  • Drfunk,

    Tyrion will be in shackles before the duel (and even before the ordinary trial) — they don’t exactly let him out on bail.

    What was up with Sam appearing to abandon an infant, with “leave them to die” chanted in the background?

  • Tyrion Pimpslap,

    That was the Red Keep!!! I may not know how they will make Meereen, although everything points to them using a pyramid, but that was King’s Landing. They’ve shown that castle each season.

  • Wow watch it like 5 times already. Glad they r going to have the Sansa scene when she builds the snow castle. Everything look awesome.

  • Amazing trailer! Am I the only one that got really excited seeing the dragon’s shadow? I wonder how big they are now. Glad to see so much of Daenerys. I wish there was more Arya though. But alas, so many characters, so little time.

  • That looks very much like King’s Landing to me. And a shadow cast by a much bigger dragon than Drogon could be this season. Maybe a dream sequence?

    Why would Mereen scrap the pyramids?

  • vlad:
    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    That was the Red Keep!!! I may not know how they will make Meereen, although everything points to them using a pyramid, but that was King’s Landing. They’ve shown that castle each season.

    Looks like the Red Keep, with the towers and all… if they will put dreams or visions this season, it will get really interesting…

  • Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Here is why I have reason to SUSPECT it isn’t Meereen:
    Meereen is mostly Pyramids, not tall RED KEEPS
    I’ve read the book
    It’s not unlike D&D to do something outside the books (which this is)

    I still say it’s KL. I know it doesn’t make sense, but it’s not unlike them to go off book.

  • Jacarb,

    Jacarb:
    That looks very much like King’s Landing to me. And a shadow cast by a much bigger dragon than Drogon could be this season. Maybe a dream sequence?

    Why would Mereen scrap the pyramids?

    Drogon is big enough for Dany to RIDE him in ADWD. But i suspect that that sequence is just for the trailer. King’s Landing looks like a miniature, and i suspect that an in universe model of KL would look more real and less like the map from the opening credits.

  • MeroVFX:
    Is Melisandre f*cking Theon??
    Does he have a cock?

    You probably already figured it out already but it is Ramsay and his brunette whore.

  • 0.14 Oznak zo Pahl rides to meet Strong Belwaas when Dany lays her siege on Mereen.
    But the Strong Belwaas cast doesn’t look anywhere close to the character in the book ! I was so hoping to see the fat wicked eunuch ! He is one of my favorite characters they should have kept in Season 3.

  • Oz, if you want to hang out with your mates [should that be buddies as you’re in the US?] and have a shindig you are free to do so. You mentioned once that you were in the deep South – I don’t imagine that as being a hotbed of “Game of Thrones” fans – in the UK at least it has the perceived notion of being “The Bible Belt” – but that probably isn’t any more realistic idea of how people in the south of the USA are, than the idea that British people (the male half anyway) all walk round in pin-stripe suits with brolleys and brief cases (though you do get some 0f them).

  • Hodor’s Bastard: Breaking Bad is cleaning up at the GGs. Yeeeeaaahhhhh, bitch!

    Next year, GoT?

    Breaking Bad, yes will win big in the GG as we have all seen and in the Emmys, but I doubt it for GoT for next year. The hacks in charge aka D&D have really put the show into a mindless drivel since after season 1. GoT will never be as good as BB, The Sopranos and The Wire. But it does have legions of fanboys that will always be butthurt because GoT didn’t win at award shows.

  • dragonglassupmyass,

    Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but Belwas didn’t make the cut; not going to be in the show. The one waiting to meet the champion of Meereen in the trailer is Daario 2.0

  • The Purist,

    Perhaps, but to compare GoT with those other shows is like tasting apples and oranges. Very different scope, range and concept, but groundbreaking in so many ways. Like I’ve said several times, GoT is like the cherry on top of an amazingly flavorful, abundant cake.

    Rock on, dude. However, if they don’t cast Septa Lemore or the Lady of Barrowton, I’ll buy you a drink.