SAG Awards Interview Roundup
By Ours is the Fury on in Press.

Stark kidsThis weekend, the stars of Game of Thrones showed up in force for the SAG Awards, delivering a host of interviews at the pre-awards party on Friday night and on the awards red carpet on Sunday.

Here are the highlights and promising teases from the cast for the upcoming season:

  • New cast addition Pedro Pascal reveals that he prepped for playing Oberyn Martell by training well in advance of filming with the Red Viper’s trademark spear and brushing up on his fight choreography skills. The prince from Dorne, in Pascal’s words, “doesn’t care what people think. He doesn’t give a fuck.” And when it comes to romance, the actor says of his charismatic character, “he gets around. He’s a lover and a fighter.”
  • Kit Harington tells Access Hollywood that this is the season Jon Snow becomes “a leader.” The actor says that Jon “doesn’t have an older male figure speaking for him. He’s got to do the speaking and fighting for himself. So I think I enjoyed it this season. It’s a big season for him. He’s got a lot to do.” What Kit is most curious about after seeing the new trailer? “I wanna know who gets the worst death.”
  • “It’s kicking off for Dany” and the khaleesi is coming into her own, says Emilia Clarke. The dragons have grown “huge,” and the actress playfully says there might be “a little something-something” with Daario Naharis this season.
  • Nathalie Emmanuel reports that translator Missandei will be “growing into her role” as handmaiden and friend to Daenerys, that we’ll be learning more about Missandei and getting to “see the human side of her.” Emmanuel also says the season 4 scripts “continue to surprise and shock.”
  •  The Stark kids arrived at the pre-SAG Awards party together and offered up several hints for season 4. Isaac Hempstead-Wright shares that, “Bran is sort of exploring a mystical element to his storyline and trees are quite heavily involved in that.” According to Maisie Williams, “Arya kind of finds a small place in the Hound’s heart that she actually kind of likes him. She’s kind of getting there. They’ve got like this uneasy relationship. She’s safe, I think, for now. But we’ll see what happens.” Sophie Turner, meanwhile, is a little more cagey when questioned about Sansa’s husband Tyrion’s appearance in handcuffs in the trailer. “I can’t possibly comment about that,” the actress says. “I think it’s just a nice little bracelet he’s got going on. It’s a nice accessory.”
  • On Jon leaving Ygritte behind at the end of season 3, Kit Harington told PopSugar on the red carpet, “He fell in love last season and had to betray the woman he loved. This season she’s constantly on his mind and you’ll see that hopefully. He’s not one to go and talk about his emotions or women or what he felt so he doesn’t, but hopefully you’ll see that he didn’t take it lightly. It’s not easy for him.”
  • In this video interview, Alfie Allen touches on the aftereffects of filming such a dark storyline, and what happens when he gets recognized as THAT guy from Game of Thrones.
  • Non-SAG Bonus: At the Game Of Thrones soirée at the Sundance Film Festival, Hannah Murray talked about Gilly’s future now that the wildling woman’s no longer on the run beyond the Wall. Murray says of season 4, “There’s an amazing episode that… focuses on the Night’s Watch that was incredible to be a part of.” As for her character’s development this year, she notes, “It’s really interesting to see her in a different environment. We’ve only really seen her…at Craster’s and on the run and when we pick her up in series 4 she’s actually kind of happy and relaxed almost for the first time, which was really interesting for me to play- that character not suffering or running away from anger. It was just interesting to see kind of, a more domestic, peaceful environment. Obviously it doesn’t necessarily last very long. She’s finding her strength, working out what she wants, and really standing up for herself as well so that was great.”

Ours is the Fury: Love all the teases. The GoT cast is always great fun in video interviews.


317 Comments

  1. Brock
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    That’s an awful picture of the Stark “teens” tbh. Should have picked the one at the awards where they’re making all the quirky faces.

  2. Sean C.
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    The lady interviewing the “Stark kids” seemed, like a lot of people (including myself at first glance) to have missed that Sansa actually is in the trailer — though that’s probably for the best, since I’m not sure what Sophie could have said about her appearance in it that wouldn’t be a big spoiler.

  3. Grijnwaald
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Brock,

    I think that’s a rather nice picture myself

  4. Cary Storm
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Kit Harington tells Access Hollywood that this is the season Jon Snow becomes “a leader.”

    Well, I think we’ll have an election soon.

  5. facelessarya
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    I’ll take anything I can get where S4 is concerned, the teases were nice.

    Premiere season is going to absolutely suck for Sophie! She can’t say ANYTHING without giving plotlines away. I guess she’ll have to just rely on her witticisms, shouldn’t be too hard. She’s a pro at being evasive when interviews try and nudge teases from her.

    Good to see Isaac at an event, he’s not always present!

  6. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Alfie Allen: “There’s definitely a lot more going on in the eyes than anything else.”

    LOL!

  7. Brock
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    facelessarya,

    None of them are ever allowed to reveal anything about the story in the interviews. If you notice, they’re always being so careful about it.

  8. Dammit Patrice
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:38 pm | Permalink
  9. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Dammit Patrice,

    Didn’t realize he was gay until now. Here was me thinking he and Lena were up to something…

  10. facelessarya
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Brock,

    Yeah, they’re all really good at answering questions without actually saying anything. I just mean where Maisie can talk about the Hound and Isaac can reference the trees, Sophie can’t mention anything about Sansa’s storyline because she’s already gone at that point and there aren’t many things she can tease on without majorly spoiling.

  11. Talisa's ghost
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Latest Trend in Westerosi jewelry, ladies and gentlemen: Handcuffs! Get yours before we’re out of the golden pieces! ;)

    I think Sophie handled it quite well, even though that interviewer was so obnoxious! (it’s more noticeable in the video version)
    And I personally like the picture, but to each their own.

    Can’t wait to see Jon’s story line. I wonder how will they show his depression over his lost love. Oh wait, he always looks depressed. Nevermind.
    His leadership stuff should be good though.

  12. Yago
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    lol @ Alfie:

    “You’re that ginger dude who gets his dick cut off?”

  13. facelessarya
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,
    I totally thought he and Lena were in a relationship looking at all their pictures together?

    But I think I read somewhere that he was dating Sarah Paulson from American Horror Story? Anyway, I don’t think we can question his sexuality just from an interview…. (And if he does happen to be gay or bisexual, all the better for the Viper.)

  14. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    facelessarya,

    Those pictures led me to think the same but then gay guys can get pretty handsy with girls as well. I just hadn’t seen him in his normal persona before. He’s clearly got the requisite charisma for the RV.

  15. Dammit Patrice
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Where does it says he’s gay? I knew the Red Viper was bisexual but i didnn’t know the actor was gay. SOURCE!

  16. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Dammit Patrice,

    It doesn’t say it anywhere. Just my intuition upon viewing the clip.

    BTW, does your username refer to Patrice O’Neal?

  17. mariamb
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    I just adore Sophie, Maisie and Isaac. They are really skilled at saying next-to-nothing in an enthusiastic way.

    Thanks for the link to the interview with Pedro.

  18. MrBushido
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Yes, because all gay people act a certain way? I hate how people seem to think sexuality has to conform to certain stereotypes and mannerisms… it belies any sort of common sense. He is in fact dating Sarah Paulson.

  19. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    MrBushido,

    I wasn’t trying to be a gossipy wiener but I’m sure my post came off that way. A lot of gay people DO act that way though, so its not too out of sorts for me to make that inference. Many times I’ve predicted famous people’s predilections before they made the official statement about it.

    I’ll change the subject before I get trussed up and Ramsay Boltoned though.

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    What does he mean by that?

  20. ebevan91
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Meh, I know straight guys that you would swear that they are gay. But they’re not.

  21. Phil
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    not so much in this pic, but other recent pics I’ve seen, Maisie really looks like she could be Michelle Fairley’s daughter. Which is interesting becasue in the books it’s Sansa who’s supposed to look like Cat.

    Also Issac’s glasses are cool.

  22. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Phil,

    I always thought she looked more like Sean Bean. As for Sophie, in that one shot from the HBO endofyear video with her hair down she looked quite a bit like Michelle.

  23. Sean C.
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Phil:
    not so much in this pic, but other recent pics I’ve seen, Maisie really looks like she could be Michelle Fairley’s daughter.Which is interesting becasue in the books it’s Sansa who’s supposed to look like Cat.

    That’s been the case from the beginning, really. Turner and Fairley look nothing alike (Turner and Jennifer Ehle, the original Catelyn, have much more of a resemblance), whereas Williams and Fairley do.

  24. Ours is the Fury
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Dammit Patrice: Pedro Pascal (Oberyn) interview

    Nice! I’ll add it to the post.

  25. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    I love Emilia Clarke’s reaction when the interviewer says that Daario was recast, she just quickly throws in “yes”. My feeling is that Ed Skrein was perhaps too Daario-like in real life.

    Sean C.,

    Though Michelle Fairley is probably my favourite actor on the show, it is a shame that Jennifer Ehle was not in it. She’s great too and ought to be Barbrey Dustin (if they include her).

  26. Zack
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    I find myself looking forward to Jon’s scenes this year. Jon was always one of my favorite book characters. We’ll see.

    As for Bran…I just take this as a sign that we’re going to be moving at a breakneck pace and I needn’t have the slightest worry they’ll unnecessarily meander through the story. The last thing I want is for the next few seasons of this show to turn into the Thrones equivalent of Peter Jackson’s Hobbit movies.

  27. Brock
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    Isaac looks a hell lot like David Tennant with glasses now..

  28. Ozymandias
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 7:05 pm | Permalink
  29. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    And Maisie at GrrM’s theatre.

    http://imgur.com/gallery/zAB4Y/

  30. Patchy Face
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Dammit Patrice,

    Very weird – this link with the PP interview is just not working for me – tried to find the interview about 50 different ways. Is it working for others?

  31. Patchy Face
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    Dammit Patrice,

    oops – never mind- Fury’s link worked!

  32. Michael Tschuertz
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    does Hannah Murray spoil the fact that one episodes will be nightswatch only?

  33. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Michael Tschuertz,

    Neil Marshall already did pretty much.

  34. Cary Storm
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Totally. Gaydar going through the roof.

  35. lysaarrynofchairs
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Pedro Pascal seems like such a nice cool guy

  36. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    lysaarrynofchairs,

    So does he make three Americans in the main cast of GoT? Dinklage, Momoa and him, IIRC.

  37. Patchy Face
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    So – why did Big Boi host GoT night at Sundance? Does he just love the show like the rest of us?

  38. SHK12344
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm:
    Greenjones,

    Totally. Gaydar going through the roof.

    Yep, my gaydar broke during the interview. Just to let others know, just because he’s “dating” an actress doesn’t mean anything.

  39. Joshua Atreides
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Isn’t Sarah Paulson a lesbian? She was with Cherry Jones I believe. And Pedro is dating Lena Headey is he not?

  40. Cary Storm
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    SHK12344,

    Come join us at wicgeeks. We need more people that recognize gaydar.

  41. Cary Storm
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Atreides:
    Isn’t Sarah Paulson a lesbian? She was with Cherry Jones I believe. And Pedro is dating Lena Headey is he not?

    Wikipedia* says “Paulson stated that she only ever dated men before her relationship with Jones, and that she has not been in a relationship since her breakup with Jones, but that she is open to relationships with women and men going forward”

    *Reliability subject to change at a moment’s notice.

  42. Hodor Targaryen
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    SHK12344: Yep,my gaydar broke during the interview. Just to let others know, just because he’s “dating” an actress doesn’t mean anything.

    Right, dating an woman doesn’t mean anything, but we should give a lot of credence to observations on the way he talks and assume he’s gay because our gaydars picked up some sterotype of homosexuals.

    Obviously we can’t help our knee jerk stereotyping that occurs in our minds, but asserting someone else’s sexuality despite what they profess to be is wrong. I find the whole guessing/assuming of sexuality very uncomfortable.

  43. Ours is the Fury
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Pretty sure you can’t reliably determine people’s sexuality from the way they speak. I think there’s quite enough in the interviews to talk about without stereotyping sexualities.

  44. Rygar
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Or if they have gained a few…

  45. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I’m sorry, I started it. Why didn’t you wade into the muck earlier in the week when people were fawning over Alexandra Daddario’s body? Sometimes us rowdy sonsofwhatsits need a bit of schoolmarming.

  46. Cary Storm
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Maybe it’s because the gay men here would do him in a heartbeat? Gosh I hate to act like a stereotype…

  47. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury: Pretty sure you can’t reliably determine people’s sexuality from the way they speak. I think there’s quite enough in the interviews to talk about without stereotyping sexualities.

    Well said, and way to say it. And here I thought all the bullshit posts were gonna come rolling in as a result of fansided integration (says the guy who hijacks a thread to talk football smack….)

  48. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    BTW that Access Hollywood interviewer is not good! Just watched the Pedro one again and she pulls the mike away while he’s still speaking to interject “he’s a prince”. No shit, he clearly would have said that if you didn’t interrupt interviewer lady.

  49. Patchy Face
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    This. Thank you -

  50. Dammit Patrice
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Oh i thought he said it somewhere.

    I’m sorry, i dont even know who Patrice O’Neal is. I came out with the name because a friend of mine was watching How I Met Your Mother (I didn’t know that show since it’s not very popular in Argentina) and i found it funny when Robin yelled at Patrice. It was really late and i was really tired so… i couldn’t come up with anything else.

    Sorry for my english. I say it just in case i made a mistake.

  51. Chickenduck
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Alfie Allen: “He’s got a great arc and I’m looking forward to the next two years of it.”

    It might be reading too much into it, but does this mean he already knows Theon is set to die in TWoW/S6?

  52. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Dammit Patrice,

    He’s a comedian who died a few years ago. Great guy.

    Chickenduck,

    I thought the same thing. Might have been a slip of the tongue. Even when he’s trying his best to be secretive like everyone else, Alfie “allude to Jon Snow twist” Allen can’t help himself! He ought to keep it up.

  53. Berndlmeister
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    I’m a reader and I don’t get it! What’s wrong with me!

  54. Jon Snowington
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    I don’t want to come across as a bigot, but….. nothing after saying this usually means anything but what is up with all the homosexual story lines on tv shows? Every show I watch has at least one or two and sometimes the shows take it a bit far and that goes for hetero sex as well. They are all pretty good shows, so I guess it’s part of the formula to make a great show. All my favorite shows have it. 1. Game of Thrones 2. The Wire 3. The Sopranos 4. Shameless 5. Six Feet Under. The only shows that I like as much as those five are Breaking Bad, Rome, Entourage, and Mad Men where I can’t remember if there was anything going on there. Sorry for the rant, but according to Wikipedia only 3.8% of the population in the U.S. is gay, so it seems odd to always have gay characters. Sorry for anybody who thinks I’m being a bigot or a homophobe. Oh yeah I saw a preview on HBO and there is a a new show strictly about gay men coming out as well.

  55. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck:
    Alfie Allen: “He’s got a great arc and I’m looking forward to the next two years of it.”

    It might be reading too much into it, but does this mean he already knows Theon is set to die in TWoW/S6?

    Great catch, I noticed that as well.

    Hope not. Seems he has so much more redeeming to do.

    Would like to see him end up either in the Night’s Watch, as a priest on the Iron Islands, or as Asha’s/Yara’s hand.

  56. Giantsbabe
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Nice round-up, thanks! The Wall-arc looks more and more promising.

  57. SHK12344
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Jon Snowington:
    I don’t want to come across as a bigot, but….. nothing after saying this usually means anything but what is up with all the homosexual story lines on tv shows?Every show I watch has at least one or two and sometimes the shows take it a bit far and that goes for hetero sex as well.They are all pretty good shows, so I guess it’s part of the formula to make a great show.All my favorite shows have it.1. Game of Thrones 2. The Wire 3. The Sopranos 4. Shameless 5.Six Feet Under.The only shows that I like as much as those five are Breaking Bad, Rome, Entourage, and Mad Men where I can’t remember if there was anything going on there.Sorry for the rant, but according to Wikipedia only 3.8% of the population in the U.S. is gay, so it seems odd to always have gay characters. Sorry for anybody who thinks I’m being a bigot or a homophobe. Oh yeah I saw a preview on HBO and there is a a new show strictly about gay men coming out as well.

    Lot of it is politics. Lot of left wing liberals in Hollywood who isn’t afraid to push their agenda. Related to that is there are disproportionate number of gays working behind the scenes in Hollwood. Plus the location. While gays make up very small number of overall population, in a large urban city like Los Angeles gays/lesbians make up relatively high number of population.

    Regard to gays in Game of Thrones, far as I can tell as of now there is only Renly/Loras. In the book, they are far more circumspect, in the show they are more open about it. It’s not 100 percent certain if Oberyn will engage in gay activities, but given producers mindset they will probably include heavy dose of it.

    I do think the show would be much better off if the show was more subtle and sophisticated about sex scenes (hetro/homo), but producers seems to believe more is better. I’ve often thought show would actually be better off in basic cable like Breaking Bad rather than HBO.

  58. cosca
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    SHK12344:
    I do think the show would be much better off if the show was more subtle and sophisticated about sex scenes (hetro/homo), but producers seems to believe more is better. I’ve often thought show would actually be better off in basic cable like Breaking Bad rather than HBO.

    The show can be gratuitous and weak in it;s use of nudity at times, but having no nudity at all would be a bad thing. Sex plays a big part of the story, and not being able to show any would have a negative impact. The 8 minutes of nudity (some of which isn’t gratuitous) we would lose would hardly make a marked improvement on the quality of the show anyway.

    Not to mention that there’s no swearing on AMC, which would fucking suck. It always bothered me that were around drug dealers, neo nazis and thugs for the whole show, but there was almost no fucking swearing at all, which is just ridiculous. Apparently one “fuck” a season was all they were allowed to have.

  59. Cary Storm
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    Oh, that darn gay Hollywood agenda again. You would have though the Scientologists would have straightened them out. Thanks Obama!

  60. debbie
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Is Maisie really that tiny??Or just because she is standing next to the very tall Sophie??

  61. Ours is the Fury
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    Jon Snowington: I don’t want to come across as a bigot, but….. nothing after saying this usually means anything but what is up with all the homosexual story lines on tv shows? Every show I watch has at least one or two and sometimes the shows take it a bit far and that goes for hetero sex as well. They are all pretty good shows, so I guess it’s part of the formula to make a great show. All my favorite shows have it. 1. Game of Thrones 2. The Wire 3. The Sopranos 4. Shameless 5. Six Feet Under. The only shows that I like as much as those five are Breaking Bad, Rome, Entourage, and Mad Men where I can’t remember if there was anything going on there. Sorry for the rant, but according to Wikipedia only 3.8% of the population in the U.S. is gay, so it seems odd to always have gay characters. Sorry for anybody who thinks I’m being a bigot or a homophobe. Oh yeah I saw a preview on HBO and there is a a new show strictly about gay men coming out as well.

    There are non-straight characters on television because there are LGBT people in real life. And frankly, there isn’t nearly diverse enough representation on TV as a lot of the examples we see are still gay white men- not women, not non-white people, etc. Not a lot of variety, often. And I wouldn’t rely too much on wikipedia stats, since people aren’t that forthcoming about coming out on polls and surveys for strangers.

    GoT is a show with a massive cast. Looking at the IMDB page, and quickly totaling who will be appearing on this season alone, there’s about a hundred actors who will have speaking roles in at least one episode. Currently alive on the show, there are only four characters that are gay or bisexual- Loras, Olyvar (we guess he is- as a prostitute, his preferences may be separate from his job), Oberyn, and Ellaria Sand. Four characters out of a hundred. Am I missing anyone? Anyway, I wouldn’t consider that an excess of representation. There is no insidious “agenda” at work. TV is just looking a little bit more like real life.

  62. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    debbie:
    Is Maisie really that tiny??Or just because she is standing next to the very tall Sophie??

    Sophie and Gwendolyne make Kit seem small!

  63. Cary Storm
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    I realize in retrospect I should keep my Gaydar results to myself. It’s not my job to out movie stars!

  64. Where is Geekfurious
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Wow you are insane

  65. kris
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:15 pm | Permalink
  66. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    Berndlmeister:
    Hodor’s Bastard,
    I’m a reader and I don’t get it! What’s wrong with me!

    Initially, I thought it funny because Theon/Reek doesn’t have a dick anymore…so nothing is “going on” down there….only in the eyes….

    But then I started thinking (which is dangerous)…
    if he truly becomes Reek in the show, eye contact with Ramsay is critical in order to fool him (or get him to stop the torture). Plus, maybe the sight of Yara will bring him back from Reek a bit…and maybe, from Yara’s perspective, if she gets to him, she still sees her little bro in his crazy eyes somewhere… It’s all about the eyes….I like his quote more and more…

  67. Cary Storm
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    kris,

    Thanks for that. I suspected Team Dragonstone wouldn’t be getting much screen time this season and she confirmed it, but we can be sure they will be getting a lot more coverage in Season 5.

  68. Enfield
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    I was about to ask the same thing. Patrice Oneal was one of the best.

    It’s impressive to see how many actors are calling this their favorite season, script-wise. If there was ever doubt about it, I’d say that goes a long way.

  69. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Dig that. My thoughts were of defeat, total loss of oneself and moments of surprised reflection/rememberance

    Sorry if I should spoiler this, on my phone n can’t seem to get to work

  70. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:38 pm | Permalink

    Where is Geekfurious,

    Insane? By jove. I thought that was a benign remark to make. But then its hard to tell what sort of remarks will set people off. If I could delete that comment I would but I didn’t think there was anything wrong with making a guess that someone is gay.

  71. ebevan91
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    lysaarrynofchairs,

    So does he make three Americans in the main cast of GoT? Dinklage, Momoa and him, IIRC.

    We’re taking over. Watch out Europeans :)

  72. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:46 pm | Permalink

    Jon Snowington,

    I think as the world is becoming more accepting, you will naturally see more on TV, and the feedback loop is that more people will be more comfortable talking about it, and coming out themselves.
    Overall we’re just seein more into the lives of all types of diverse lifestyles and personally I think it makes for more interesting characters.
    I’m not gonna say I don’t cringe a little with things like the shave and suck scene…. But what the hell. The viserys scene in the tub creeps me out way more
    I think now that the world in GOT has been established we will see less gratuitous sex (hetero/homo) and the sex they choose to shoot may mean more. Maybe I’m naive and that will be not the case. Either way, I’m not really gonna bitch about it. My daughter still ain’t gonna watch this show for many years.
    And are there really any questions about connington?
    Oh, and Rome, a show I loved, had all kinds of sex…. IIRC

  73. Patchy Face
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    Wow, just wow… When someone starts off by saying “don’t want to come across as a bigot” that usually means they are one. Better get with it people and get some exposure to real life, there’s a whole new world out there with all kinds of people in it.

  74. Chickenduck
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    I like this bit in the CVH Shadow Baby interview (from John Bradley):

    “”Sometimes you think they’re gonna be nice, and they can throw you a bit of a curveball,” said the actor, who plays the role of Samwell Tarley on the HBO series. “A guy came up to me once and said…’One question: why’s your character still so fat?’ And I said…’Well, because I’m still so fat.’…and he said, ‘I just don’t believe it, don’t believe it for a second that you’d still be so fat.’ I said, ‘There’s dragons and White Walkers in this show, I cannot believe that my weight is the thing that you’re just not buying about it!’”

    I remember a LOTR parody years ago with the central joke being how the Hobbits still looked so well-fed despite tramping around the wilderness so long. It involved the line “Mr Frodo! I’ve found a tree that grows roast chickens!” at one point.

  75. Ours is the Fury
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    kris:
    http://m.hitfix.com/news/game-of-thrones-carice-van-houten-threatens-to-sic-shadow-babies-on-rude-fans

    Another one from SAG. Some very interesting teases.

    A nice video interview with Sibel Kekilli and John Bradley can found on that same page as well. Looks like they’re finally posting the good inteviews. It was nothing but boring fashion highlights coming out of the SAG Awards, at first.

  76. Cary Storm
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:50 pm | Permalink

    Sister Wrister: And are there really any questions about connington?

    I’m a huge Jon Connington/Imaginary Rhaegar shipper

  77. Arthur
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:51 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    There’s nothing wrong with what you said.

    Don’t worry about justifying or trying to explain yourself to the ultra sensitive white knights that like to charge in screaming outrage when there actually is none on their politically correct horses.

    I was surprised as well after seeing Pedro’s interview. It doesn’t matter to me what his sexual preference is one way or the other. But also, I tend to come off very feminum as well to people so just because he is feminum doesn’t necessarily mean he is gay/bi.

    I think he will be an amazing Red Viper from everything we have seen so far. This can honestly be a career launching role for him if he delivers the performance we all are expecting to see.

    Gay, straight or bi I am totally routing for him as we all should be.

  78. Chickenduck
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    Where is Geekfurious,

    Insane? By jove. I thought that was a benign remark to make. But then its hard to tell what sort of remarks will set people off. If I could delete that comment I would but I didn’t think there was anything wrong with making a guess that someone is gay.

    I have no idea if he’s gay in real life, but for what it’s worth, he’s played a lot of gay characters on stage.

    Lena could be a beard, I guess.

    Real-life sexuality if cast doesn’t really matter to GoT though.

  79. ebevan91
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Just watched the Carice van Houten interview. She looks much better with her natural (?) hair color.

    Anyways, so apparently the Dragonstone crew won’t have a lot of scenes, but they’ll have good, long scenes, whenever they do have scenes. But I guess that was to be expected since Stannis is kinda supposed to just show up out of nowhere and save the day at the Wall.

  80. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    kris,

    When she was previously interviewed about season 3 she said she had a lot more screentime, which turned out to mean she appeared in six episodes. I assume what she says here means her season 4 screentime will be more comparable to her season 2 screentime where she appeared in only 4 eps. I’m glad however that she said that the scenes she has are long ones because there are some things from the books I would still like to hear from her about the deaths of false kings and their replacement by other false kings.

  81. Greenjones
    Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:58 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Thanks. To me its no more important than Dinklage being from New Jersey. But saying things somewhat brusquely can spur quite the reaction it seems. I guess that’s understandable enough given the political climate.

    And talking about climate its colder’n shit outside, am I right? (In T.O. at least)

  82. Ours is the Fury
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    Sister Wrister: And are there really any questions about connington?

    Yeah, there’s no question about him, GRRM confirmed that character’s gay at a reading he did. But he’s not on the show this year so I didn’t count him.

  83. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    Greenjones: Where is Geekfurious,

    Insane? By jove. I thought that was a benign remark to make. But then its hard to tell what sort of remarks will set people off. If I could delete that comment I would but I didn’t think there was anything wrong with making a guess that someone is gay.

    I dont think what you said was insane either, btw. Just reread the comments and just wondering how and why the conversation went so far this way. Sorry for my part in all the pointless shit being discussed, but I guess Im surprised that this group isn’t above getting political about rumors and intuitions into someone else’s personal life. Kinda tabloid stuff, if you ask me, and to get worked up about it? Leave it by the register.
    Fwiw I didn’t even watch his interview cuz I’ve never seen him on screen before and Id rather just see the RV… As it is for me with many of the actors on this show.

  84. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm: I’m a huge Jon Connington/Imaginary Rhaegar shipper

    I don’t catch your meaning?

  85. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury: Yeah, there’s no question about him, GRRM confirmed that character’s gay at a reading he did. But he’s not on the show this year so I didn’t count him.

    Gotcha. I was actually referring to dudes handle…..

  86. Jon Snowington
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    The point I’m making is do they really have to go “that” far? Is there any need to do anything more than insinuate? I don’t think part of accepting anybody should involve us watching sex scenes with them. As for an agenda, of course there is an agenda. All entertainment has an agenda and if that particular media is talking about homosexuals in a positive or negative way than it is a targeted agenda. If I make a movie about Southerners being racist or crazy Mormons having 5 wives half their age, I’m showing the consumer what I think about that situation in my work. I can’t stand when someone says there are no agendas in movies or television. It’s ART! Of course their is an agenda, it is supposed to make you think.

  87. Ours is the Fury
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    Jon Snowington,

    Well, we know openly that most of the characters are heterosexual. We meet Catelyn and Ned right off the bat when they’re in bed together as a loving couple. And of course, there are loads of heterosexual sex scenes. There have been very few homosexual intimate moments, and they were very mild in comparison. The raunchiest so far has been Loras/Olyvar, and even that pales when you compare it to some of the antics of Theon and the torture girls or Ros/Armeca (with Littlefinger’s direction).(I realize this is contradictory, but this scene was for a man’s pleasure. They don’t willingly have sex with women.) If the heterosexuality is more than insinuated, I don’t see why the homosexuality has to be restricted to insinuation.

  88. Randa
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    That all gay show you’re referring to is Looking, set in San Francisco…so yeah…all gay dudes.

    And are you kidding me that’s not a good picture of the Stark kids? I could dip my fruit in Sophie Turner’s face!

  89. UnbowdUnbentedUnhodor
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    kris:
    http://m.hitfix.com/news/game-of-thrones-carice-van-houten-threatens-to-sic-shadow-babies-on-rude-fans

    Another one from SAG. Some very interesting teases.

    Dont like how they refer to who as playing the ‘evil’ priestess. Melisandre is not evil. She not good either, but definitely not evil

  90. Sean C.
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck:
    Alfie Allen: “He’s got a great arc and I’m looking forward to the next two years of it.”

    It might be reading too much into it, but does this mean he already knows Theon is set to die in TWoW/S6?

    More likely he’s just referring to what’s been published so far.

  91. Greenjones
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:51 am | Permalink

    Sean C.,

    I don’t know, he’s made some slip-ups before and this one seems promising.

  92. SHK12344
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:57 am | Permalink

    Jon Snowington:
    Ours is the Fury,

    The point I’m making is do they really have to go “that” far? Is there any need to do anything more than insinuate? I don’t think part of accepting anybody should involve us watching sex scenes with them.As for an agenda, of course there is an agenda. All entertainment has an agenda and if that particular media is talking about homosexuals in a positive or negative way than it is a targeted agenda. If I make a movie about Southerners being racist or crazy Mormons having 5 wives half their age, I’m showing the consumer what I think about that situation in my work.I can’t stand when someone says there are no agendas in movies or television. It’s ART! Of course their is an agenda, it is supposed to make you think.

    I don’t like it either, but hey I’m not the one producing the show. I just change the change the channel for couple of minutes and turn back. And I fast forward those gay scenes when I’m rewatching it on computer.

  93. Dogs
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    Jon Snowington:
    Ours is the Fury,

    The point I’m making is do they really have to go “that” far? Is there any need to do anything more than insinuate? I don’t think part of accepting anybody should involve us watching sex scenes with them.As for an agenda, of course there is an agenda. All entertainment has an agenda and if that particular media is talking about homosexuals in a positive or negative way than it is a targeted agenda. If I make a movie about Southerners being racist or crazy Mormons having 5 wives half their age, I’m showing the consumer what I think about that situation in my work.I can’t stand when someone says there are no agendas in movies or television. It’s ART! Of course their is an agenda, it is supposed to make you think.

    I don’t understand this. Sex scenes exist in TV shows and movies. Our culture accepts heterosexual relationships. We see hetereosexual relationships depicted in sexual situations on TV shows and movies. If our culture accepts same-sex relationships, then a natural part of this would be not to feel shame in the depiction of same-sex sexual situations, and furthermore, not to depict them any differently than heterosexual sexual situations (which, incidentally, is simply not the case a lot of the time; see Littlefinger lesbian pornography episode 7 of season 1).
    Perhaps normalizing depictions of same-sex relationships on TV shows is an agenda, but I’d say that that has absolutely nothing to do with ideas of “positive” or “negative.” There’s a problem with using words like that. Boys and boys have sex, have relationships. Girls and girls have sex and have relationships, and not just so that men can watch them. It’s not evil, it’s not negative or positive; it’s just a thing some people do in this world. Just like boys and girls who have sex and engage in relationships together.
    Okay: it used to be that every time a person of colour was cast in any leading role in a movie, that movie was necessarily situating itself within a political debate. The movie then would have a political agenda depending on the way it depicted people of colour. But then you have movies like, fucking, I Fly Planes Around To Rock Music And Shoot Bad Guys (Stealth, I think it was called) starring Jamie Foxx and that shit is far from political or having an agenda, except maybe to make baffling amounts of money and glorify the United States military. What I mean to say is: get over yourself. And yes, you came off sounding like a total bigot.

    Sorry to be a prick, but someone should say it.

  94. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:15 am | Permalink

    Jon Snowington:
    Ours is the Fury,

    The point I’m making is do they really have to go “that” far? Is there any need to do anything more than insinuate? I don’t think part of accepting anybody should involve us watching sex scenes with them.As for an agenda, of course there is an agenda. All entertainment has an agenda and if that particular media is talking about homosexuals in a positive or negative way than it is a targeted agenda. If I make a movie about Southerners being racist or crazy Mormons having 5 wives half their age, I’m showing the consumer what I think about that situation in my work.I can’t stand when someone says there are no agendas in movies or television. It’s ART! Of course their is an agenda, it is supposed to make you think.

    Awhile back somebody mentioned the “liberal hollywood agenda” (don’t remember who and I don’t care anyway) as a rationale for or cause of all the homosexuality we now see all over TV, and the Media in general. Is this the agenda you are referring to here?
    If so, I got a question for ya.
    It’s no secret that much of hollywood is pro-gay. I’m not here to question that. What I do find curious is that if there is some such agenda permeating hollywood productions, and their goal is to inundate us with homosexuality until we are all okay with it, then why do they fuck it up so bad? How much controversy has there been here (since season 2) about how the HBO production team has screwed Loras’s character? Yes, his whole deal with Renly and his sexuality (or in book canon, lack thereof following the demonqueef) is much more implicit in the books. And his character was way better.
    So are they just failing in their agenda? Are they failing the gay community? Are they failing the straight community? Or….. what the fuck is this agenda anyway?

    It’s just entertainment dude. And it’s happening at a time when the most of the world is opening up, to everything. Better get used to it.

  95. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:17 am | Permalink

    SHK12344,

    Do you think by watching it you will turn homo? I find this so fascinating. That the sight of two dudes making out is more offensive to some than a woman having her throat slit. Strange.

  96. Cary Storm
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:19 am | Permalink

    Sister Wrister,

    Jon Connington clearly had a thing for Rhaegar. Rhaegar most probably did not share the sentiments. Ergo it is in the realm of posibility that Jon Connington’s possible active love life involved imagination!Rhaegar, or a series of relationships with men who never measured up to Rhaegar.

  97. SHK12344
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:22 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    SHK12344,

    Do you think by watching it you will turn homo? I find this so fascinating. That the sight of two dudes making out is more offensive to some than a woman having her throat slit. Strange.

    I don’t like beans. I don’t like wearing tank tops. I don’t like riding bicycles. I don’t enjoy watching gay sex.

    People have different taste. Simple enough for ya??

  98. Cary Storm
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:23 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    SHK12344,

    Do you think by watching it you will turn homo? I find this so fascinating. That the sight of two dudes making out is more offensive to some than a woman having her throat slit. Strange.

    It’s actually disturbing that people can sit through the abject violence but get squeamish at a man-on-man frottage and have to change the channel.

  99. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:24 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm:
    Sister Wrister,

    Jon Connington clearly had a thing for Rhaegar. Rhaegar most probably did not share the sentiments. Ergo it is in the realm of posibility that Jon Connington’s possible active love life involved imagination!Rhaegar, or a series of relationships with men who never measured up to Rhaegar.

    Woah… Far out. That’s fucking interesting, man.
    Kinda blowing my mind actually!
    Thank you for enlightening me with that theory!

  100. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:29 am | Permalink

    Sean C.: More likely he’s just referring to what’s been published so far.

    This

  101. Cary Storm
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:32 am | Permalink

    Sister Wrister,

    A little heavy on the sarcasm, dude.

  102. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:32 am | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    Sean C.,

    I don’t know, he’s made some slip-ups before and this one seems promising.

    But then again, perhaps this ^^^

  103. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:34 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm:
    Sister Wrister,

    A little heavy on the sarcasm, dude.

    Swear to the OLD GODS, there was no sarcasm there! I’d never heard that theory, and it seems totally plausible. Sincerely, thank you!

  104. Cary Storm
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:39 am | Permalink

    Sister Wrister,

    Ah, then my apologies for assuming wrongly. Jon Connington seemed to be a fun character to pick out and do things with for alt crack fiction. Nothing serious. But he did seem the type to sleep with you and throw you out the next morning because you weren’t Rhaegar.

  105. Randa
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    I too admit to being completely oblivious to Jon Con’s pining for Rhaegar and homosexuality, and only recently learned of it here and then confirmed it by looking up the wiki. Must. Read. Series. Again.

  106. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    Gotcha. Huh.
    Yeah, lots of questions with that whole plot. Never really thought of him that way, but it certainly seems likely he isn’t over Rhaegar, and the whole failure and banishment thing he carries around/which is coinciding in many ways with some history of pretending
    Interesting idea though.

  107. Laurentius
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:48 am | Permalink

    Do you fast forward when you see people on Game of Thrones eating beans? Or do you look away when you see people on the street riding bicycles?

    It’s kind of a silly analogy to make. Myself, I don’t particularly like horses, but I don’t feel a need to make a statement by saying I fast forward everytime there’s a horse on GOT.

    It’s not like your comment is completely without political content.

    SHK12344: I don’t like beans. I don’t like wearing tank tops. I don’t like riding bicycles. I don’t enjoy watchinggay sex.

    People have different taste. Simple enough for ya??

  108. SHK12344
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    Laurentius:
    Do you fast forward when you see people on Game of Thrones eating beans? Or do you look away when you see people on the street riding bicycles?

    It’s kind of a silly analogy to make. Myself, I don’t particularly like horses, but I don’t feel a need to make a statement by saying I fast forward everytime there’s a horse on GOT.

    It’s not like your comment is completely without political content.

    Can’t accept that people have different taste and opinions??

    I hate musicals, whenever people start singing in tv shows or movies, I immediately change channel or fast forward it.

    Happy???

  109. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:25 am | Permalink

    SHK12344,

    Not really. Sitting through 15 seconds of gay content is different than sitting through an entire musical. It’s not like it’s Queer As Folk you’re watching, Mr.Putin.

  110. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:37 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: SHK12344,

    Not really. Sitting through 15 seconds of gay content is different than sitting through an entire musical. It’s not like it’s Queer As Folk you’re watching, Mr.Putin.

    Mr. Putin!!! Hahahaha

  111. Cary Storm
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:38 am | Permalink

    I can’t get the Floppy Wiener song from South Park out of my head for some reason.

    Butters: “Mr. Arrh Arrh Martin, why do you have to show so many weiners?”

  112. falstaff
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:50 am | Permalink

    I think it’s very telling that Carice Van Houten says it’s a short storyline with long scenes. First of all, I think it pretty much rules out the theory going around that Yara will be captured by Stannis as that would take up a few episodes. This means Yara’s storyline will probably be Bolton/Greyjoy exclusive. As for the Dragonstone gang, I’m going to guess they have 4 episodes, probably as follows:

    Episode 1: Burning folks on Dragonstone, various conversations
    Episode 3 or 4ish: Braavos and a bit of sailing
    Episode 9: arrival at the wall. Davos will definitely be with them, as Liam Cunningham tweeted about going back to film again for a few days in the fall, which is when they shot Neil Marhsall’s episode
    Episode 10: Stannis’s offer, maybe some prophecies from Melisandre

    much as I enjoy the Dragonstone storyline, I do think a major gap in the middle of the season for them will help make viewers forget that they’re coming to help

  113. SHK12344
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:54 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    SHK12344,

    Not really. Sitting through 15 seconds of gay content is different than sitting through an entire musical.It’s not like it’s Queer As Folk you’re watching, Mr.Putin.

    You’ve won. I admit defeat. I could not possibly compete with your incredible comeback (calling me Mr. Putin was pure genius!) or with your brilliant, in depth analysis.

    To rectify for my sins and wrongdoing, I will spend this coming weekend watching 48 hours marathon of Glee and gay porn, simultaneously.

    Thank you for helping me to see the light. I am a better man now.

  114. WildSeed
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:56 am | Permalink

    great teasers from the GoT cast, thanks Ours is the Fury. All the teens look fresh faced and relaxed, too. RC angst , bygones.

  115. falstaff
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 3:07 am | Permalink

    on another note, I LOVE that Pedro Pascal is yet another member of the cast who went to theater school. I think one of the primary reasons this cast stands head and shoulders above so many others is because of how many of them are theater conservatory-trained actors (most of the cast really, in some form or another) The training makes a noticeable difference, especially with those long monologues and two person scenes.

  116. WildSeed
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 3:08 am | Permalink

    Hodor Targaryen,

    Ours is the Fury,

    Ditto. Time to skedaddle and view time best spent reading a good book. ta ta ( :

  117. Laurentius
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:01 am | Permalink

    SHK12344: Can’t accept thatpeople have different taste and opinions??

    I hate musicals, whenever people start singing in tv shows or movies, I immediately change channel or fast forward it.

    Happy???

    Look, I was only saying I thought your analogy was a bit off. I do respect that we have different opinions, I was just debating the issue, I wasn’t telling you to shut up or that your opinion is invalid.

    Im I happy now? Well, really, you don’t have to try to make me happy, I’m not sure you agreeing with mer or not will change that at all. Maybe if you used one question mark instead of three that would make me a little bit happier.

  118. Giantsbabe
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:05 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm

    In hindsight I’ve always found Rhaegar’s and Jon C’s relationship interesting. I sometimes wonder that if Jon was possibly gay and interested in Rhaegar, Rhaegar either did not reciprocate and only saw him as a close friend (didn’t he visit Jon’s castle once?), or Rhaegar was bisexual and had a one time fling with him. Also, Rhaegar’s possible sexual orientation gives the R+L=J theory another interesting dimension. Food for thought: I saw a meme once that asks something along the lines of: “What if Jon Snow was named after Jon Connington and not Jon Arryn…?” :)

  119. Satin
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:09 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    SHK12344,

    Do you think by watching it you will turn homo? I find this so fascinating. That the sight of two dudes making out is more offensive to some than a woman having her throat slit. Strange.

    If only that worked, furthering the gay agenda ™ would be so much easier.

    Pedro Pascal seems like a cool dude. My ‘dars never really worked, but there might be a hint of asexuality here. Maybe in the t’s, don’t know.

    And the Stark Kids grow like weed, don’t they? I’m sure next year around this time, Isaac will be fully bearded.

  120. dragonreborn
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:10 am | Permalink

    Can’t believe this! Dany says her dragons have grown “huge” and not a single comment about that?
    I’ve read for 10 minutes and all I got is boring comments about homosexuality:/

    Jon Snowington:
    Ours is the Fury,
    The point I’m making is do they really have to go “that” far? Is there any need to do anything more than insinuate? I don’t think part of accepting anybody should involve us watching sex scenes with them.

    I suffer heterosexual sex and naked women enough! So please stop making gays in tv a big deal.

  121. SokratesK
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:53 am | Permalink

    Wow ..the Stark kids have grown!Hitting puberty in Westeros must be a bitch though..

  122. Jay
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 5:32 am | Permalink

    Yeah, come on guys. Enough with the homosexuality/heterosexuality conversations. In a month’s time, if you look back on this thread you might see just how bizarre the whole conversation is and maybe you’ll laugh, embarrassed.
    So, yeah;
    Dragonreborn – that’s exactly why I came here, to see if anyone had commented on Emilia’s comment about the dragons having grown huge, as if she was confirming that that was them at the beginning of the trailer. Speculation, please?

  123. Jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 5:34 am | Permalink

    falstaff,

    Very happy with this. Get your ass to the Kingsmoot, Yara. And then to Deepwood Mott for that second awesome scene.

    I really hope you’re right.

  124. Jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 5:42 am | Permalink

    Jay,

    Still the same speculation. Dream sequence or specifically edited for the trailer. I think it’s the latter, honestly. There was something weird about that shot, as if it was zoomed in awkwardly to follow the CGI shadow which isn’t in the original shot and won’t be in the final shot.

  125. loki
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 5:57 am | Permalink

    learning more about Missandei and getting to “see the human side of her.”

    You mean we see her tits.

    “He doesn’t give a fuck”

    Well that’s just rude. And i thought i liked the guy.

  126. The Purist
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 6:03 am | Permalink

    Winning for stunts is the only thing GoT deserves to win. The show has gone downhill thanks to imbeciles like D&D mishandling the show after season one. When the writing suffers so does the actors and actresses in the show. GoT will never win for writing or best series for any major award shows, because Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dum are shown to be incompetent show runners. Oh well, at least the show will have continue to have sexpositions and talk of weiners that you, GoT fanboys, can look forward to.

  127. dragonreborn
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    Jentario,
    Jay,

    I’m quite sure it was just for the trailer. it is nice that they have a 3D model for KL. Until now, they were using matte paintings which were 2D, so didn’t allow flyovers like this. the location will be more fleshed out. remember how they took the hogwarts castle matte paintings from the first movies and made a 3D model of the whole school so dragons and other things were able to fly all over the place.

    I even hope this shot continues so, we approach to a place (e.g. duel arena or wedding in the gradens) in the beginning of some scene.

    It is great news to hear that dragons will not be the same size as the last year however I don’t think they’ll be big enough to cast a shadow like that. the trick was merely there to remind the show had dragons since rest of the trailer doesn’t show any. It seems they are still working on the dragon scenes.

    edit: keep calm and don’t feed the trolls like purist

  128. Balon01
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 6:14 am | Permalink

    The Purist,

    Game of Thrones got a nomination in this category: “Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Drama Series”

  129. Mr Fixit
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    Balon01:
    The Purist,

    Game of Thrones got a nomination in this category: “Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Drama Series”

    Don’t engage the troll.

  130. BrianAu
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    The Purist,

    They have made some miss steps such as Loras breaking vow of celibacy in the show as stated in this thread which I totally disagree with since he loved Renly so much. But I now have friends and family reading the books for first time and so many great scenes are NOT from the books that are in the show. Look at Arya for example: Handmaiden with Tywin “Anyone can be killed…”, Yojen scene that explains her list of people she wants killed, scene with Melisandra, and so on… Other scenes like Robert and Cersei… there have been some incredible new scenes that were not in the books that my friends are like “where is this? You mean it is not in the books????” They still love the books (well up to the fourth one) but admit that at times find them missing stuff they really loved in the show that is not there.

  131. Ilovejam
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 6:58 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    A few people here have willingly outed themselves as homophobes and bigots. I love how they keep on digging and embarrassing themselves with their comments. Thank you for handing them the shovel – it’s a fun read!!!

  132. Jim
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 7:00 am | Permalink
  133. Brock
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 7:21 am | Permalink

    Jim,
    That guy who’s the model of all the DreamWorks’ characters

    http://haha.nu/files/uploads/2009/pixar-vs-dreamworks/pixar_vs_dw_small.jpg

  134. John
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 7:25 am | Permalink

    Jim: Who’s the dude in the lower left?

    Pedro Pascal who will be playing a new (awesome) character in season 4

  135. Greenjones
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    loki,

    In fairness to him I think he said “shit” rather than “fuck”. And when the interviewer said “they killed you off in Graceland, you could tell for a minute he thought she was going to say something else.

  136. Greenjones
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 8:23 am | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=sbTJjEZJ5IE

    This interviewer is relentless and seems to know to grill Alfie the most because of his history with spoiling.

  137. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    loki,
    In fairness to him I think he said “shit” rather than “fuck”. And when the interviewer said “they killed you off in Graceland, you could tell for a minute he thought she was going to say something else.

    Yeah, his slight pause was priceless. :)

  138. jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    He definitely said “shit”.

  139. Rygar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    “all I want you said to me you look like you’re lots of fun open up your lovin arms I want someone’s son”

  140. jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    Sad to see no Gwen or Rose interviews. They were THERE, for fucks sake.

  141. cosca
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Wow, they should seriously re-title that video.

  142. queenofthorns
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    Jon Snowington,

    Well, how many speaking parts/cast members does GoT have? 100? And the sex ratio is like 70% male? If roughly 5% of men are Gay, that means 1/20. So, there should be 3-4 gay men with speaking parts.

    About other shows, well they’re making up for lost time. Prior to 1990 gay people didn’t exist, pretty much.

  143. queenofthorns
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Arthur: feminum

    I am going to add this one to my personal dictionary. :D

  144. Kris
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    kris,

    When she was previously interviewed about season 3 she said she had a lot more screentime, which turned out to mean she appeared in six episodes. I assume what she says here means her season 4 screentime will be more comparable to her season 2 screentime where she appeared in only 4 eps. I’m glad however that she said that the scenes she has are long ones because there are some things from the books I would still like to hear from her about the deaths of false kings and their replacement by other false kings.

    I’m very curious about if we’ll get a reaction to Balon and Joffrey’s deaths from Stannis and company. Four episodes sounds about right. I suspect we’ll get a scene with Melisandre, Selyse, and Shireen (or some combination) while Davos and Stannis are off in their adventure. Assuming that isn’t a pit stop on the way to the Wall. I wonder if it will attempt to humanize her a bit more since one of this season’s themes about “good” and “evil.”

  145. Jen@House Stark
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Whether the Viper said sh*t or f*ck, he still produces the vapors of no return :faints:

  146. Jen@House Stark
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=sbTJjEZJ5IE

    This interviewer is relentless and seems to know to grill Alfie the most because of his history with spoiling.

    OMG, this was great! Total spoiler, so glad they are going to show that scene! :happydance:

  147. Jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    Kris,

    Spoiler tags plox

  148. Jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark,

    Yeah, season 5 will be awesome.

  149. Kris
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Jentario,

    I don’t know why the tags didn’t take and I can’t edit it any longer. So that one needs to be deleted.

  150. Annara Snow
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Jon Snowington:
    I don’t want to come across as a bigot, but…..

    And… you failed.

    All my favorite shows have it.1. Game of Thrones 2. The Wire 3. The Sopranos 4. Shameless 5.Six Feet Under.The only shows that I like as much as those five are Breaking Bad, Rome, Entourage, and Mad Men where I can’t remember if there was anything going on there.

    Salvatore Romano. Major closeted gay character on Mad Men.

  151. Arthur
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    queenofthorns,

    That’s one thing that annoys me about myself.

    I have a decent vocabulary but am awful at spelling =[

  152. James Williams
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    I was wondering how this article could have 150 comments…then I get a few comments in and I see a dumb “you can’t tell if he’s gay or not” debate sprung up…who cares if PP set off a commenters gaydar? I don’t think he was saying it to disparage PP or gay people…just a thought that occurred to him…lets stop with the thought policing…nobody is bashing gays and thinking PP might be gay shouldn’t be seen as an insult even if he’s not…so I don’t get all the PC people jumping to PP’s defense like anyone needs defending from being called gay…anyway moving on

  153. Rygar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Is it me or does Isaac look like Ross Perot with glasses in that picture?

  154. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    dragonreborn:
    I suffer heterosexual sex and naked women enough! So please stop making gays in tv a big deal.

    When it becomes acceptable TV fare to gratuitously inject necrophilia and beastiality into the storyline, that’s when I will draw the line and inject myself into the conversation! Until then, all’s fair in love and war.

    As a related sidenote, wouldn’t Val and a warged Jon-Ghost make an interesting couple as Jon’s body recovers? I just know all of you blessed Sullied have thought about it. :)

  155. Pau
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    I was under the impression that PP was gay before watching the interview, and that they cast him not only because he’s a really good actor, but because he doesn’t mind having sex scenes with men. It was discussed here long ago.

    PS: Jim Parsons was also “dating a woman” before he came out of the closet so yeah.

  156. Rygar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    I was gay before I posted here

  157. Jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Can we just shut up about that godawful argument and let it pass like it never happened? Thank you.

  158. Jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,
    Dude, you’re not. And you’re not a woman either.

  159. Rygar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,

    Very Hetero sounding…

  160. Pau
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Also I don’t mind gay sex in GoT at all. On the other hand I saw the pilot of Looking the other day, and although the series is pretty good, I confess I wanted to fast forward some bits.

    I understand how some people can feel the same way about GoT, or going to the other extreme some who don’t mind GoT or Looking but wouldn’t watch more than 10s of gay porn, and also the ones that can watch it all without being bothered.

    Don’t be so judgemental on this things. Let people fast forward/watch what they want

  161. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    When you’re obsessively cataloging which of your favorite shows has gay stuff in it or hurriedly switching the channel when there’s a gay scene; you might be protesting too much. Just saying.

    Anyways, back on topic. Emilia’s comments about the dragons being huge is exciting. Hopefully we get a new trailer at some point with footage of them.

    The interview where Alfie talks about a forgiving tree is interesting. Are they jumping ahead and going into some of ADWD stuff? Or is this new. It seems connected with that trailer footage of Bran by a weirwood. Hmm…

  162. Rygar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,

    Finally. Took you long enough. :)

  163. AngryRosFan
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    SHK12344: Lot of it is politics. Lot of left wing liberals in Hollywood who isn’t afraid to push their agenda. Related to that is there are disproportionate number of gays working behind the scenes in Hollwood. Plus the location. While gays make up very small number of overall population,in a large urban city like Los Angeles gays/lesbians make up relatively high number of population.

    Regard to gays in Game of Thrones, far as I can tell as of now there is only Renly/Loras.In the book, they are far more circumspect, in the show they are more open about it. It’s not 100 percent certain if Oberyn will engage in gay activities, but given producers mindset they will probably include heavy dose of it.

    I do think the show would be much better off if the show was more subtle and sophisticated about sex scenes (hetro/homo), but producers seems to believe more is better. I’ve often thought show would actually be better off in basic cable like Breaking Bad rather than HBO.

    Ugh. Please. I hate this “left wing liberals pushing their agenda” crap. There are gay and non-homophobic conservatives, libertarians, liberals, moderates and non-political people, in Hollywood and everywhere else.

    How about this: Gay people are a part of life and out of the closet and that’s being reflected in television and film from “Hollywood” and other cities and countries, however much some homophobic people would apparently prefer not to have to admit it. /rant

    That said, I don’t have a problem with nudity but I’m a big believer in “less is more” when it comes to depictions of sex in television shows, including Game of Thrones. If it’s important to the plot, I’m okay with it. If it’s not important to the plot, then I think it’s just gratuitous. I think the showrunners have actually admitted that some of it is just for the audience segment that tunes in for the T&A

  164. Shmofo
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Rygar:
    I was gay before I posted here

    I became gay after reading GRRM’s sex scenes in ASOIAF. Watching GOT cured me, though.

  165. Myk Lonmouth
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Ugh why do conversations always take this turn here?

  166. Jujube
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Myk Lonmouth,

    Because the readership here has turned into a lot of frustrated immature males that have no life other than their posts. Sad

  167. Ragman's Harbor
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVe6B5K1yRM

    I love Maisie’s description of Arya in season 4 and beyond. ”She starts to get really hard shell around her. And the things that people kind of love in Arya are slowly starting to slip away”.

    Well, don’t count me in those people, cause Arya is my favourite character and AFFC/ADWD probably have her best chapters, for me anyway.

  168. Cary Storm
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    I became straight momentarily after watching Oona Chaplin in the Robb & Talisa love scene. But the Red Wedding pretty much cured me of that.

  169. Jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Ragman’s Harbor,

    Thanks! It seems like a perfect description of post RW Arya. There are two other GoT interviews on that channels so far, but they don’t tell us anything particularly new.

  170. Jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,
    Thank you…?

  171. Jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Shmofo,

    Prepare to be assaulted for saying you were cured from being gay.

  172. Rygar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Jujube,

    Please feel free to contribute in any manner you wish. I usually ignore posts I don’t like or just go off and read a book like WildSeed does.

  173. Cary Storm
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    I like to fast-forward through those comments, or switch posts until they pass.

  174. Rygar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    My fast forward button doesn’t work the way it should. I press it and I end up DVRing reruns of Queer Eye.

  175. Ragman's Harbor
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    http://www.sfreporter.com/santafe/article-8057-thats-the-magic-of-m.html

    Found this on the internets while doing absolutely nothing on my pc for the whole day waiting to go to work. Yeah, life’s awesome.

  176. House Mormont
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Yo so I got to around halfway down the comments while constantly facepalming and skipped to the end to see the discussion was still on the same subject

    dial me up when the conversations on Thrones

    ps I don’t get that Alfie Allen eyes comment, although his eyes did look a bit red on the trailer. are they going to skip him losing toes, fingers and teeth and give his eyes a bit of heroin chic instead?

  177. Kris
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Wow. Some of you folks are way more focused on the sexuality and personal lives of gay people…than we are. Also, could the people talking about this “gay agenda” send me a copy. I seem to have never gotten my copy.

    Can we actually get back to talking about GOT now?

  178. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    Kris,
    House Mormont,
    If you wade through the reality in this thread, you will discover that many of us have tried to initiate some GoT conversations regarding the nuggets of info from the interviews. But, alas, no one has taken the bait, so reality takes over.

    Truth be told, eccentricities, diversity, alternate belief systems, social dysfunction, bitter truths, sarcasm and asymmetric ideologies are all a part of ASoI&F/GoT. Please don’t forget, ’tis a grand fucked-up world we are swimming in and discussing. :)

  179. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Ragman’s Harbor,
    Stuck in the snow as well? Luckily, this is an ideal telecommute day!

    Thx for the link. Did you happen to see the first few words in the article under the photograph? “Have Needle will travel”….? Perhaps a bit of spoilery foreshadowing, eh? As far as the show goes, she lost Needle in S2. Any mention of Needle in S4 context is pure spoilerdom.

  180. Dolorous Ned
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger: The interview where Alfie talks about a forgiving tree is interesting. Are they jumping ahead and going into some of ADWD stuff? Or is this new. It seems connected with that trailer footage of Bran by a weirwood. Hmm…

    I think he just mentioned it as a scene in the books he’s looking forward to, it’s not necessarily in Season 4. His answer is a bit unclear though, so we’ll have to wait and see.

  181. Jujube
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Well thank you for allowing me to comment. I had forgotten that you are now in charge of this website.

  182. Mursk
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    That pic of the Stark kids…

    Seems like only yesterday that little Arya was shooting that bullseye and Bran was giving chase.

  183. Rygar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Jujube,

    You’re welcome, sugar!

  184. Dornishman
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Pau,

    Which parts of Looking did you have to fast forward? There was virtually no sex/nudity in the first episode.

  185. Greenjones
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    I think he meant that that was in the future, maybe season 5. If he’d filmed it he’d know it was called a weirwood (I hope).

  186. jentario
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Yeah, that’s certainly season 5 material. And about the eye thing… I have nothing.

  187. House Mormont
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Kris,

    I missed those meetings too. I think we are scheduled to over earth soon *insert Mr Burns face*

    Dolorous Ned,

    I think the “forgiving tree” will be a lot better on the show than in the book… I’m looking forward to all things Winterfell

  188. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    AngryRosFan: How about this: Gay people are a part of life and out of the closet and that’s being reflected in television and film from “Hollywood” and other cities and countries, however much some homophobic people would apparently prefer not to have to admit it. /rant

    Bravo. Well put.

  189. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Somewhat more on topic:

    Sophie, Isaac, and Maisie are just awesome, and adorable. They’ll never re-cast them. One of the reasons the show works so well is because – and I suppose this is one of the tropes that GRRM used rather than subverted – is that you become so close to this nuclear family that exists in somewhat happy times, and you only want, if anything, for their survival, obviously for Jon Snow, but for the younger Stark children as well. And if they’d gotten these actors wrong – and admittedly, a badly cast Tyrion (oh, ok, it was always going to be Dinklage) or Cersei would have really sunk it – it would really hurt the viewing experience. They’re all just awesome.

  190. mariamb
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    Exactly. I love these kids, both on-screen and off-screen in these interviews. They seem to have a connection with each other and that plays convincingly into a hoped-for reunion as a family.

    And I agree…if these three roles had been cast incorrectly, much of the heart of this show would have been lost. To the credit of all involved, these roles were cast perfectly.

  191. Jujube
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Yo yo Dude – mix it up!

  192. Greenjones
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Pedro Pascal just got cast in the Mentalist (which I’ve never seen, but still). He’s taking off.

  193. Rygar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    I can only think of maybe two or three actors that do not fit in their roles. The show has done a great job with casting.

  194. Patchy Face
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,
    So agreed!

  195. Zack
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    AngryRosFan: Ugh. Please. I hate this “left wing liberals pushing their agenda” crap.There are gay and non-homophobic conservatives, libertarians, liberals, moderates and non-political people, in Hollywood and everywhere else.

    How about this:Gay people are a part of life and out of the closet and that’s being reflected in television and film from “Hollywood” and other cities and countries, howevermuch some homophobic people would apparently prefer not to have to admit it. /rant

    That said, I don’t have a problem with nudity but I’m a big believer in “less is more” when it comes to depictions of sex in television shows, including Game of Thrones. If it’s important to the plot, I’m okay with it. If it’s not important to the plot, then I think it’s just gratuitous. I think the showrunners have actually admitted that some of it is just for the audience segment that tunes in for the T&A

    All it took was one post for you to become one of my favorite people here. Well said. Agreed on all points. Less -is- more.

  196. Valyrian Plastic
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones: Pedro Pascal just got cast in the Mentalist (which I’ve never seen, but still). He’s taking off.

    Huh? Does this mean he’s not coming back next season ;) (Don’t know why I felt like tagging that really)

  197. That Stark boy
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Who? I can only think of Ducksauce, but he is still very good.

  198. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    House Mormont:

    ps I don’t get that Alfie Allen eyes comment, although his eyes did look a bit red on the trailer. are they going to skip him losing toes, fingers and teeth and give his eyes a bit of heroin chic instead?

    I took his comment to suggest that he’s going to be playing the character with his eyes… In the book, we’re in his head during his transition into Reek, and we get some insight into his loss of identity and flashes back to reality. I think he’ll be using his eyes to portray that stuff. And hopefully, with a limp as well.
    As for a “forgiving tree” wow… that’s sooner than I would have expected, but they are already ahead with him, and Bran may have need of more screentime this season… It’s been too long, and I can’t remember…. Didn’t his www tap-in happen around a certain wedding?

  199. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber: Sophie, Isaac, and Maisie are just awesome, and adorable. They’ll never re-cast them. One of the reasons the show works so well is because – and I suppose this is one of the tropes that GRRM used rather than subverted – is that you become so close to this nuclear family that exists in somewhat happy times, and you only want, if anything, for their survival, obviously for Jon Snow, but for the younger Stark children as well.

    This is a great point. I have gotten choked up watching ep.1 when the Starks are all together, more than a couple times… and have spoken to friends who feel the same after their first rewatch. I think this has to do with such great casting and chemistry; and as a reader/viewer knowing where everything’s headed…

  200. Turncloak
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    Ouch Andy Greenwald ripped Neil Marshall (director of Blackwater) on his directing in Starz’ new pirate drama “Black Sails”. Greenwald is on the record of loving Blackwater however. I hope this doesn’t mean that episode 9 of this season of GOT will suffer in quality. Maybe Neil Marshall had to work with some awful writing when he filmed his episode of Black Sails. Here’s Greenwald’s article. http://grantland.com/features/scurvy-dog/

  201. Darkstar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    I watched the first episode of Black Sails on a free preview weekend and was thoroughly bored with it.

  202. cosca
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    Wow, what a long winded review. Did we really need the entire history of Starz?

    It sounds less like he’s ripping the actual directing, and more the sets and costuming to me.

  203. kingjon
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    Our sweet children are growing up. Is it me or does Sophie look like a young Gretchen Mol from Boardwalk Empire?

  204. Rygar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    That Stark boy,

    For me, the three biggest are: Mance, Illyrio, and I hate to say, but Ilyn Payne. As much as I love Wilko as a musical hero of mine, I just think he looks too weird and dopey for the role and less menacing as I picture him to be from the book description. I also think Osha is terrible and do not like her “crazy girl” take on the character, even if GRRM does , but I guess that’s more due to writing and direction than casting.

  205. That Stark boy
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,
    Gotta disagree about Osha. Although she is different from book Osha, she is way more interesting. I’m glad GRRM will change her a bit in Winds. I think her story in 307 shows a bit of this change already, as that episode was penned by Arrh Arrh himself.

  206. Rygar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    That Stark boy,

    She’s definitely more interesting. I just wish she would raise her head up and not look like Igor when she speaks.

  207. Patchy Face
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    Good night! – Andy Greenwald’s college thesis – who cares what he thinks about Starz and their chances of success? I’ll have to watch the pirate show, though, to see if I agree with him.

  208. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    Pedro Pascal just got cast in the Mentalist (which I’ve never seen, but still). He’s taking off.

    He seemed so excited and happy to be there in that video above. Almost giddy. I’m glad for him.
    Even just from the body language in the trailer and production video it looks like he’s nailed the part of Oberyn. Hopefully the role is his big break.
    All right, I’ll quit gushing ;)

  209. Greenjones
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    They should give him the main cast credit, I think. He’ll probably have more screentime than a lot of main cast members already and it would be nice and misleading for those who would think that would guarantee his survival, in the vein of Viserys, Robert and Ned’s first season credits.

  210. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    Greenwald seems to get more rambling and bitter as time goes on. Never really liked him much, compared to the reviewers at The A.V. Club. That said, I wasn’t very impressed with the pilot of Black Sails, either, but (to make a network comparison) I absolutely hated the first few episodes of Spartacus and over time came to really enjoy that show. I’ll check in for the first season, at least, and go from there.

  211. Joshua Atreides
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    kingjon,

    A bit too old for the Commodore alas. Sick joke I know.

  212. skar
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Unsullied stay away.

    In Theon’s interview

    at 00:47 he mentions that he is “looking forward to the next 2 years of it” ..conformation that Theon dies in TWoW?

  213. Ours is the Fury
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    skar,

    It’s very unlikely Alfie would know now if Theon was going to be killed off in TWOW. They don’t hand that info out easily. They only find out when people are getting killed if they’ve read the published books or if they get a phone call when the scripts are going out, usually. I think Alfie was just speaking in general terms, since the show is likely to only continue for another few years.

  214. Arthur
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    Wow…

    That wasn’t a review. That was a Starz crucifixion…

    That guy had nothing nice to say at all about anything Starz has done.

    I think folks that think themselves to “high strong”, and “sophisticated” are the same folks that would never enjoy an anime or a series like ‘Spartacus’. Yes, the low budget wannabe ’300′ CGI and gore feast was sometimes laughable but so what, as a whole the series was enjoyable. You got to learn to relax and look past minor show flaws and enjoy the show for its entertainment value. Not every show can be GoT.

    I love ‘Shameless’ I don’t think that’s been nominated for anything ever, so what, I get some good laughs and entertainment value out of it. I loved ‘Vikings’, that show didn’t get any kind of award nomination, so what.

    I really dislike snobbish critics like that, people who seem to enjoy picking apart and pointing out every flaw of a show while refusing to acknowledge anything positive. That critic seemed out for blood.

    Something about that article rubbed me the wrong way.

    Oh well, I’ll be watching ‘Black Sails’ with an open mind this weekend. ‘Spartacus’ made me laugh at how bad it seemed at first, but once you get used to the shows flaws you learn to look past them because ‘Spartacus’ also had many good things going for it that I really enjoyed.

    I am hoping ‘Black Sails’ has that ‘Spartacus’ feel to it…

  215. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    OT: I’m on season 3 of Justified and it has leaped into my all-time top 5 favorite shows(sorry Mad Men).

    Breaking Bad
    The Sopranos
    The Wire
    Game Of Thrones
    Justified

  216. Joshua Atreides
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Justified is amazing. Love Neal McDonough’s Robert Quarrells in season 3.

  217. Zack
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    It’s worthy. Funny that you specifically mention season 3 though, which was my least favorite one so far (including the one currently airing)

    Seeing Timothy Olyphant in a cowboy hat is a nice thing for Deadwood junkies like me, and that isn’t the only reason it’s so great. Some of my favorite acting on TV.

  218. Greenjones
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Emilia saying “a little something-something” is one of the sexiest pieces of audio I’ve heard in some time. Probably sexier than the actual scene itself will be.

  219. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    Raylan Givens > Seth Bullock.

  220. Zack
    Posted January 22, 2014 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I don’t think Bullock was as complicated or interesting a guy as Raylan is. He was all upright and moral in a town of swindlers and murderers. I like the shades of grey in Raylan.

    I still think Deadwood’s the better show, but Olyphant gets more to work with in Justified.

  221. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Zack,

    I think it’s safe to say Deadwood was an overall better production, but I enjoy Justified much more.

  222. Turncloak
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Yes I’ll also be watching Black Sails this weekend despite the negative reviews. I’ve recently gotten into the pirate genre by watching an anime called One Piece so I’ll definitely come in with an open mind. The intro music is great too for Black Sails.

  223. Arthur
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    Cool!!!

    There’s so many great anime series out there. Glad to hear you have an open mind. So many of my friends laugh at me and just don’t understand why I buy anime on amazon and watch it. I mean, it’s like anything else, there’s different genres and some of it is garbage but you’d be amazed at the amount of good anime series out there…

    There’s even rumor HBO might adapt an anime series called ‘Monster’, which is a great anime by itself.

    I also love the fact that anime is so freaking weird and different than anything on western TV…

    There are hints it’s becoming more and more mainstream…

    I think this YouTube clip sums up why I love anime the best…

    http://youtu.be/ryzAJqGDz40

  224. Randa
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 1:22 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Especially not to the guy who keeps spoiling everything! I tell him not to, but he can’t be bothered cuz he’s high on THC…

  225. Jentario
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    These are going to be a long couple of weeks…. The next GoT video is scheduled for early February, right?

  226. A wildling Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 2:32 am | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    leave one piece and start watching Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood (if you haven’t watched it already).. it has only 60 episodes (as far as i remember) and it’s one of my favourite .. there’s also Cowboy bebop and Eureka 7 .. check them out if you have the time ..

  227. Jentario
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 2:39 am | Permalink

    Steve,

    Please don’t start this again. We have only managed to sterilize the thread and now you’re calling people names… Just stop :/

  228. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 2:57 am | Permalink

    Steve,

    Keep fighting the good fight, you’ll show her. This is the internet and we can speculate on who is or isn’t gay and whether or not an actress needs to lose a few pounds. It’s our God given right! Lose some weight, Rose Leslie, your ass looked fat in the cave scene.

  229. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 3:37 am | Permalink

    Official name change:
    Jentario = Hand of the Kingslayer

  230. That Stark boy
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 3:54 am | Permalink

    Steve,

    I used to have a gaydar… but then I realized it was stupid and threw it away.

  231. That Stark boy
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 3:56 am | Permalink

    Hand of the Kingslayer,

    I’ve been thinking in changing mine to “Lord of Hogsmeade”.

  232. Satin
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:41 am | Permalink

    Steve,

    Yeah, man, I love you, too. It’s always astonishing to see how easy it is to rile up dudebros. You adorable piece of cake.

    I still miss Deadwood, though Bullock was rather dull. The rest of the characters made up for it, however. Never really got into Justified, but good for Olyphant to apparently get a part that he can sink his teeth into.

  233. Berndlmeister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 6:19 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Ahhh … yes, your initial assessment of Theon’s comment hits the mark. Having been married for quite a while, I forget what attributes cause single people to have it ‘going on’. After you’re married, it seems to have everything to do with the ears, which still thwart me.

    But I bet you’re right about your second assessment as well. I suspect much of Alfie’s character will come across in his eyes.

  234. Pau
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 6:21 am | Permalink

    queenofthorns:
    Jon Snowington,

    Well, how many speaking parts/cast members does GoT have?100?And the sex ratio is like 70% male?If roughly 5% of men are Gay, that means 1/20.So, there should be 3-4 gay men with speaking parts.

    About other shows, well they’re making up for lost time.Prior to 1990 gay people didn’t exist, pretty much.

    I’d say if theres 5% of the population that is gay, is more like 8% men 2% women…I always though that the % are much higher though, like 10% with 15%+5% or so, and people just don’t admit it.

    Having said that, we don’t know how many gays have speaking parts, because many characters could be closeted gays..just like in real life. Maybe Alliser Thorne is gay, or Benjen was, or Varys, Joffrey, Jojen, Meera, Bran, Arya, Grey Worm, Pycelle, The great Septon, or Jaqen, or Syrio or…we just don’t know.

    Ours is the Fury: Currently alive on the show, there are only four characters that are gay or bisexual- Loras, Olyvar….

    As I said, that we know of…for example I always though that the Blackfish and Varys were gay, and Benjen too. Probably many that joined the Black Watch.

    I think in the show D&D should show us some characters being gay that are not outed in the books though (and not the other way around, like they did with Xaros). That would make for an interesting adaptation.

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Zack,

    I think it’s safe to say Deadwood was an overall better production, but I enjoy Justified much more.

    I think Justified is superior in every way from season 2 onwards. And it keeps getting better, this last season has started really strong. For me there’s no question between the 2.

    Dornishman:
    Pau,

    Which parts of Looking did you have to fast forward? There was virtually no sex/nudity in the first episode.

    The opening scene and the threesome. They showed less skin but the scene felt much more real than any got sex scene, you could feel the sexual tension. Wich is a compliment for the series. It’s really well done, although not really groundbreaking. I thing Girls is a superior show.

    Rygar:
    I can only think of maybe two or three actors that do not fit in their roles.The show has done a great job with casting.

    Just Renly and Yara for me…2 out of 100 is pretty awesome tbh

    <blo

    That Stark boy:
    Rygar,
    Gotta disagree about Osha. Although she is different from book Osha, she is way more interesting. I’m glad GRRM will change her a bit in Winds. I think her story in 307 shows a bit of this change already, as that episode was penned by Arrh Arrh himself.

    Agree totally. LOVE Natalia Tena and her wild animal impersonation of Osha. Best deviation from the books

  235. Veltigar
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    Arthur:
    Turncloak,

    I am hoping ‘Black Sails’ has that ‘Spartacus’ feel to it…

    The CGI is pretty crappy (look at the ship shots), but fortunatly it is used a lot less than in Spartacus (they are going for something grittier. It’s more GoT than Spartacus qua style).

    The guy who’s playing john silver is a terrible actor (at least in the first episode, perhaps he improves in the next episodes). The blonde actress is already in major danger of becoming a “Kit Harrington” (someone who can’t properly be judged on acting skills because the writing for the character they portray is beyond poor).

    On the other hand Toby Stephens (bad guy from “Die another day”) who plays Captain Flint is awesome. A great actor, I have always wondered why he isn’t more famous. His character also has the most potential. The supporting actors were at the very least decent, no one who fell out of tone.

    Costumes and props were also pretty sweet (although I’m not an expert on pirates so I can’t say if they were 100% accurate). Especially the weapons were cool, they actually seemed “used”.

    All in all I think this series biggest problem (only based on the first episode) is going to be the writing, but who knows the writing might yet improve. The first episodes of Spartacus were also pretty bad, but it became one of my favorite shows on the small screen.

    Overall I’d say that the first episode of Black sails was better than the first Spartacus episode.

  236. The Purist
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 6:40 am | Permalink

    Balon01Game of Thrones got a nomination in this category: “Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Drama Series”

    Too bad being nominated isn’t the same as winning it. GoT will always be the losers in major awards to better shows and has to wait till those shows to end to get a slight chance of winning.

    BrianAu,
    You and friends are free to like the show, I”m not stopping you just saying my piece. I’m not one of those diehard GoT fanboys who foams at the mouth when someone has a different opinion to the show than theirs.

  237. Abyss
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    The Purist: GoT will always be the losers in major awards to better shows and has to wait till those shows to end to get a slight chance of winning.

    GoT has won a shit load of awards (and still wins them) including 10 Emmys, 1 Golden Globe and 1 Hugo. So please stop pretending that GoT doesn’t win major awards…

  238. Ser Tahu
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    Hand of the Kingslayer,
    Noted.

    As for the argument raging above: I agree that ‘white knighting’ is incredibly obnoxious. However, to attack people for trying to uphold political correctness is just stupid and makes you seem like an ass.

    I personally am of the same mindset as the creators of South Park (and The Chasers, for the Australians out there); either EVERYTHING is ok to make fun of or joke about, or NOTHING is ok to make fun of or joke about, and I prefer to live in a world with humour :P.

  239. Pau
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    The Purist: Too bad being nominated isn’t the same as winning it. GoT will always be the losers in major awards to better shows and has to wait till those shows to end to get a slight chance of winning.

    BrianAu,
    You and friends are free to like the show, I”m not stopping you just saying my piece. I’m not one of those diehard GoT fanboys who foams at the mouth when someone has a different opinion to the show than theirs.

    No, you just do that when someone has a different interpretation of the books than yours…

  240. queenofthorns
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Zack,
    Raylan Givens > Seth Bullock.

    I have never heard a more incorrect statement in my entire life!

    Zack: He was all upright and moral in a town of swindlers and murderers. I like the shades of grey in Raylan.

    Personally, I think Bullock is much darker character. He tries to be “all upright and moral” but in reality he just wants to beat the SHIT out of people and is always on the verge of violence.

    Raylan is OK… but really I think he’s just too good at pretending he doesn’t give a shit with humor. To the point where I think maybe he doens’t give a shit.

  241. Greenjones
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    Jentario,

    I kind of wish they’d released the On the Set” feature somewhat later so that we could spend another week or two overthinking the trailer. I’m glad the way things happened, but I feel they’ve spoiled us and we’ll start going a tad stir-crazy before the thing in February comes out. And for all we know it might not even include any new footage like the “You Win or You Die” feature or the one last year.

  242. Boojam
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Now I have seen red carpet interviews with John Bradley before , he’s good at it…. but it was odd seeing Sibel Kekilli there with him. She may have been at the HBO red carpet premiere last year, can’t remember , but she must be having fun since I don’t think she gets many of these red carpet things.
    Alfie Allen is so amiable and gushes so much it’s hard to get him off camera! I didn’t see his ‘handler’ about.
    Neither Rose Leslie, Lena Headey or Gwendoline Christie seemed to give a red carpet or party after …. interview at either the Golden Globe or SAG , I guess.

  243. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Hand of the Kingslayer,
    I miss Jentario already….but the name change is well done.

  244. Rygar
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Was that Steve the Drunk from Deadwood? Instead of Hostettler he’s now bitching about Fury?

  245. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    That Stark boy:
    Rygar,
    Gotta disagree about Osha. Although she is different from book Osha, she is way more interesting. I’m glad GRRM will change her a bit in Winds. I think her story in 307 shows a bit of this change already, as that episode was penned by Arrh Arrh himself.

    Yes, I agree with your disagreement about Osha. I think Rygar has a loose screw on that one. :) Plus I am smitten over Natalia in real life. Damn she cleans up well…and that voice!

    In any case, I am also looking forward to her reemergence in TWoW. I didn’t like that (and I slightly don’t believe that) GRRM sent her and Rickon to Skaagos. I rather like the show’s version of having them go to Last Hearth or thereabouts instead. I am hoping that they emerge from under the radar (preferably with Davos) in S5 and someday merge into the post-Ice war in Winterfell storyline. In any case, the future King of the North Rickon and King Tommen need to have a go!

  246. Boojam
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    You know, I guess Natalia is not in Season 4.

    But then I fully expected Gemma Whelan not to be in season 3, but , blip!, there she was.

  247. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Boojam,
    Yeah, which is disappointing. I’m still hoping that the showrunners would create a bit of continuity (like they did with Theon and Yara/Asha) and do some non-PoV stuff for Rickon/Osha. They could show them arriving “somewhere” for the viewer’s sake. I just hope they don’t forget about them until S5 or S6, which would be disappointing. I’m rather interested in how Osha and Rickon travel together and how Rickon matures with Shaggydog.

  248. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Don’t miss me, I’m still here :(
    EDIT: I just came up with the new name today, randomly and decided it’s time for a change.

  249. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    Hand of the Kingslayer,
    Just as long as you continue to give me a hard time and check and balance the facts in my posts, ok? :)
    Naming after lost ASoI&F character appendages is cool. So far I have seen:
    DonalNoyesArm (Omar!)
    TheonsDick
    TyrionsNose
    DavosFingers
    BericsEye
    GregorsHead

    Any others out there? :)

  250. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    BransLegs?

  251. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Khal-A-Bunga:
    BransLegs?

    Yes! How could I forget?
    Continuing on:
    IlynsTongue
    GreyWormsBalls
    ….

  252. Zack
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    You remember Theon, but neglect poor Varys?

  253. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Fingers of the GreatJon. And I know this is old news and has likely been discussed here years ago, but what the hell happened to him? Last I heard the actor got his ear bit up in an airport. Nymeria???

  254. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Zack,
    A roundup of lost appendages is in order! I think Westeros has done this several times but it is always fun to reminisce the dearly departed.

  255. Rygar
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Hand of the Kingslayer:
    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Don’t miss me, I’m still here :(
    EDIT: I just came up with the new name today, randomly and decided it’s time for a change.

    Admit it. You changed your name so you wouldn’t have to come back to wicgeeks.

  256. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Sister Wrister,
    Yes, the absence of Nymeria is my personal pet peeve. You know she’s out there….and angry…

  257. Patchy Face
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Is Aaron Paul and Big Boi Game of Thrones fans?

  258. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Nah. But I didn’t really have time for that this week. Maybe next week I’ll come back and see what’s what.

  259. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Robb and Greywind are missing from your list. Robb’s head, and GW’s body. Also, Ned’s dead head. But those are fatal wounds, so I guess they don’t count…

  260. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard:
    Sister Wrister,
    Yes, the absence of Nymeria is my personal pet peeve. You know she’s out there….and angry…

    I think we may hear murmers….. some folks at the inn? talking about a great pack o wolves led by a “big angry bitch”… not my words here. Don’t wanna piss anybody off…..

  261. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Show Rodrick’s head……. hung on… for a minute. Yes, fatality. And one of the most cringe worthy and tearjerking moments of the show, for me.

  262. Arthur
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Yes that pisses me off as well…

    when reading the books I remember how awesome I felt learning how Nymeria was basically the Alpha of a huge pack of regular wolfs hunting down and killing the Lannisters soldiers and all others who meant Arya harm during the nights…

    Even Arya knew, as she unconsciously Warged into Nymeria while she slept sometimes.

    I love the bond the Stark kids have with their Dire Wolves and wish that was shown on the TV show a little more.

    Dany’s bloodline was breed for thousands of years to bond and be one with dragons. That’s explained just fine in the show.

    However, the Starks coming from an ancient bloodline that also was breed to bond and keep one with nature (The Old Gods) hasn’t really been explained.

    IMO the Starks are just as mystical as The Targaryens, if you think about it.

    I always felt those Dire Wolves were a gift from the Old Gods (nature god) to the Starks to even out the playing field a little. The Dire wolves were a gift meant to guide, protect and defend the Stark children.

  263. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Sister Wrister,
    Yes, I hope we get to overhear such news with Arya or actually see an attack that may save members of the BwB (wouldn’t that be cool?). And a shot of Ny pulling a certain body out of the river would be swell too…but I’ve beaten that dead heart so much….

  264. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,
    Truth, ser. Arya probably won’t do any warging on the show…but she may dream. And as Sister Wrister implied, she may overhear things ….coolness

  265. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Well said. I agree on all counts. My biggest problem with the RW was hands down the treatment given to Grey Wind…. I remember reading and thinking how Robb didn’t listen to him, and folded too easy when it came to Frey’s demands to lock him up. (yes, I realize the King and his honor..) I think in Catelyn’s POV even she even has this thought somewhere.
    His snarling at the bridge and all that, and his takedown of Frey’s……. Perhaps DnD didn’t want to project too much danger ahead…
    Anyways, my 2 cents on how the Direwolf/Stark mysticism has suffered some…

  266. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Sister Wrister,
    Grey Wind was robbed!!!! Not having GW take out a few Freys before succumbing was simply unforgivable.

  267. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Now we be gettin crazy. And I know this has all been said.

    Awhile back somebody mentioned a season 4 “cold open” with LS. Here’s what I would like to see.
    A Wolf-cam working thru the woods….. sniffing, seeing, hearing…. a la Bran’s dreams from season 1, only there are howls in the distance and you get the feeling there is a pack.
    Wolf spots a body washed up at the shore; pulls the body out and defends it….

    Aria wakes up. She’s camping with the hound somewhere.

    Then later, maybe later in the season or even last scene of ep1??? BWB finds the body and the rest is history…. (and zombie revenge)

  268. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Sister Wrister,
    I think Ser Tahu had the “cold open” idea in his S4 outline (which, along with his S5 outline, is quite an entertaining read). But yes, it would be nice to have some juicy foreshadowing regarding that topic…

  269. Joshua Atreides
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Was that Steve the Drunk from Deadwood?Instead of Hostettler he’s now bitching about Fury?

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahshahahhhahahaahahahahahshahaha!!!!!

    (Lol is so passé)

  270. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    I would definitely want to see that scene, but first it needs to be established that Catelyn’s body was thrown into the river. The fact that this hasn’t happened yet in the season 3 finale, and that we’ve already seen the RW being cleaned up WITHOUT that mention is extremely nerve-racking to me. D&D really are making me doubt if we’ll ever see Stoneheart, but then again- there’d be no point in Brienne’s story (which will begin in season 4) going forward without Stoneheart.

    I actually really like that part of the story, unlike Rygar. I don’t see it as a cheap resurrection because there’s hardly any Catelyn left.

  271. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Yes, may have been him. I haven’t read his outline… I love speculation but can’t get into those full season outline reads because they are too much like itinerary’s/call sheets for me, my brain just doesn’t go there very well.

    On the topic of characters with lost appendages. “Show” Marillion’s tongue? And wasn’t he the only one given a choice thus far?

  272. Stannis's Soul
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Thought I’d change my name.

  273. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Hand of the Kingslayer:
    …I don’t see it as a cheap resurrection because there’s hardly any Catelyn left.

    Definitely. I think the unique aspect about it is the absolute anger and madness. All of us saw Catelyn’s descent into terrifying madness at the RW. Just what happens to that madness, despair and anger when the body and mind are dragged back to forced existence….? That’s what makes all this worthwhile and interesting for me. I still yearn for an LS PoV in TWoW…..!

  274. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Stannis’s Soul,

    …is made of Iron, and a lost appendage indeed. Good one.

  275. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Stannis’s Soul,

    The StanStans are coming. They will kill you. Wait, this isn’t Westeros.org…

  276. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Sister Wrister,

    As far as I know, excessive tooth grinding is a symptom for soul decapitation.

  277. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Hand of the Kingslayer,

    Good point. Yes one must follow the other. Hmmm. We shall see what they do. I think much of DnD’s decision on that will stem from Grrm’s plans for LS moving forward, ie. how crucial is this plot to the story? anyway… duh.

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    I am also hoping for a LS POV! And what the fuck is that word??!!!

  278. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:11 pm | Permalink
  279. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Hand of the Kingslayer,

    That, and sperm offered up for demonqueef babies. It LOOKED LIKE STANNIS!

  280. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard:
    Sister Wrister,
    Sword

    Is this the accepted theory? Damn, I need to reread.

  281. Veltigar
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Sister Wrister:
    Hand of the Kingslayer,

    Good point.Yes one must follow the other.Hmmm.We shall see what they do.I think much of DnD’s decision on that will stem from Grrm’s plans for LS moving forward, ie. how crucial is this plot to the story?anyway… duh.

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    I am also hoping for a LS POV!And what the fuck is that word??!!!

    it is indeed sword. GRRM confirmed it at a con some months (perhaps even years?) ago

  282. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Sister Wrister,
    For me, it was all about OathKeeper…hence…

  283. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Veltigar,

    Thanks! I have not read that anywhere.

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Wow. Yeah. Now I’m geeking out about light……. and HEAT! Oh shit…

  284. Stannis's Soul
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Stannis’s Soul does not like the new bouncy boob gaming ads one bit.

  285. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Stannis’s Soul:
    Stannis’s Soul does not like the new bouncy boob gaming ads one bit.

    Yeah, it’s not like German porn in the 70s at all.

    (You gotta hand it to ‘em though. Someone over there at GTArcade has deftly mastered the gravitational physics and mathematical modelling of jiggling mammaries!)

  286. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: Yeah, it’s not like German porn in the 70s at all.

    We’re never going to forget that, are we? Sta- Stephen Dillane has sealed his fate.

  287. Renly's Peach
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Oh yeah.

  288. Darkstar
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Stannis’s Soul,

    I find them rather annoying myself.

  289. Hodor Targaryen
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    I think it’s pretty forgivable when you consider how hard it is to have an animal fake fight, and how difficult it was to work with these animals specifically. I mean, look at how little they were able to do with the bear in episode 7, and that’s with one of the most trained animals in the business.

  290. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Hodor Targaryen:
    Hodor’s Bastard,
    I think it’s pretty forgivable when you consider how hard it is to have an animal fake fight, and how difficult it was to work with these animals specifically. I mean, look at how little they were able to do with the bear in episode 7, and that’s with one of the most trained animals in the business.

    Oh, I’m not foaming at the mouth about it. Perhaps “unforgivable” is much too harsh. That’s just my pet peeve. By locking GW up, the showrunners compromised the integrity of Robb himself. Grey Wind and Robb were intertwined. When they weren’t near one another, Grey Wind was out hunting or with the bannermen…but always untethered. By forcing GW to be locked up, Robb should have said WTF? But, of course, Talisa screwed his chances of thinking straight.

    Call me a whiner (I can’t wait for Don’t Care to chime in), but don’t you have a favored scene in mind that felt compromised onscreen? In my defense, I didn’t mind how they showed Shaggydog and Summer attacking the wildlings near Queenscrown. I’m sure Nutter could have put something together for the RW, but they didn’t even try. To not have GW fighting when he died just wasn’t right, imho. As a dog lover, it pissed me off….but that’s just me.

    Couldn’t Arya have seen GW go down fighting?

  291. Jordan
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    In what probably gets at a lot of why I like GOT/favor certain departures from the book (i.e. the look of the Iron Throne), I “like” the way the show does it because in real life people (or direwolves) don’t always get to make heroic last stands. Sometimes they die like dogs (pardon the pun).

    For a similar example, while I regret losing his last words, and still hope they show up in a note/will, the way Lord Mormont dies works for me because of how sudden and brutal it is.

  292. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Jordan:
    …I “like” the way the show does it because in real life people (or direwolves) don’t always get to make heroic last stands.Sometimes they die like dogs (pardon the pun).

    Yes. I like the way you put it….and it made me a bit sad. Wearing my heart on my sleeve today, I guess.

  293. tysnow
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    skar,

    He probably just said that because his contract like all the others was for six seasons, therefore after this season, Alfie only has two years left on contract.

  294. Jen@House Stark
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Hear, hear! :clapping: And did someone call for Lyanna Stark? Oh, shoot, you meant Lady Stoneheart didn’t ya? :sulks:

  295. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark:
    Hodor’s Bastard,
    Hear, hear! :clapping: And did someone call for Lyanna Stark? Oh, shoot, you meant Lady Stoneheart didn’t ya? :sulks:

    Hah! Aren’t you a touch for sore fingers! Just think of all the fun we could have by replacing one LS with the other LS…. :) [inside joke for wicgeeks]

  296. Jen@House Stark
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: Hah! Aren’t you a touch for sore fingers! Just think of all the fun we could have by replacing one LS with the other LS….:)[inside joke for wicgeeks]

    Yep! From the crypt to the creek!

  297. Hodor Targaryen
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    That’s fair. I thought you were saying something like “they have no excuse for what they did” and I think there are enough practical hurdles to justify it. I get the frustration, especially if it’s a scene you were looking forward to and suddenly it wasn’t at all what you imagined.

  298. Greenjones
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 2:23 am | Permalink

    http://wicnet.tumblr.com/post/73804705151

    Alex Graves sitting in the background of this shot. Compare against this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoFZoE72rhA

    Does this mean that this scene with Arya and Needle atop the ridge (the same I believe from the trailer) is in ep. eight or ten? I’d say eight, if so. Unless it’s in ep. 2 or 3, those are Mr. Graves’s eps.

  299. Sister Wrister
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 3:18 am | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark:
    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Hear, hear! :clapping: And did someone call for Lyanna Stark? Oh, shoot, you meant Lady Stoneheart didn’t ya? :sulks:

    Lyanna Stark would be a much more welcome sight, certainly a more beautiful one. :)

  300. Brock
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 4:31 am | Permalink

    What’s so funny about Isaac saying “mystical” in the video? They all laughed.

  301. Felt Pelt
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 4:35 am | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Nice sleuthing. I assumed that ridge scene was mountainous terrain on the way to the Vale near the beginning of the season, but you’re right, she can’t get Needle until after the fight. So it must be like the area around Harrenhal where she ends Season 2.

  302. House Mormont
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 4:51 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    I just assumed that Frey ordered Grey Wind locked up? And it’s better than in the books, where Robb distances himself from Grey Wind because the Westerlings don’t like him, much more integrity

  303. Greenjones
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 5:11 am | Permalink

    Brock,

    Probably thought he said “miss tickle”.

    Felt Pelt,

    There’s two possibilities for how the ArHound and and Mountain’s Men shit plays out. One which would go against book logic would suggest that they split the Inn fight in two. We know that the Innkeeper’s Daughter has been cast, implying that that grisly story will occur. Also we know that Polliver will be in ep. 1 via this http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2655938/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr41

    This could mean, either that Arya gets Needle back early and Polliver dies, leaving Rorge and co. to be encountered later, or that their merely set up early as seasonal villains for that particular arc. The evidence against her getting Needle back early are Iceland set pics, presumably of Arya in the Vale with a sword-hilt visible in her belt that looked very unlike Needle.

    We shall see. Alex Graves directing both early-season and late-season eps makes this much harder to narrow down.

  304. Boojam
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: Yes! How could I forget?
    Continuing on:
    IlynsTongue
    GreyWormsBalls
    ….

    This last season Conleth Hill finally used one of George’s favorite terms, ‘Root and Stem’.
    The Unsullied were UnsulliedTallywackerBalls, 10,000 of them in the books, if I remember.
    More GRRM hyperbole …
    Thought George knew his history a little better. In history is was the winning side who castrated their advisories , as a sign of power.
    I don’t think there was an instance of an army of eunuchs, since they would have been considered less powerful, but I guess in Martain Universe things are the other way around.

  305. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Can we really take that IMDB source as reliable? As far as I know, they just shove all the actors confirmed to appear without specific episodes known into the first episode.

  306. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    On the topic of castings… I wasn’t aware of this one, the “Slave Master”:
    http://m.imdb.com/name/nm0233266/?ref_=m_tt_cl_i2
    And this one, as a “Valyrian Slave” (whatever that means, just a slave I guess):
    http://m.imdb.com/name/nm0329210/?ref_=m_tt_cl_i3
    Both are set to appear in episode 404.

    Could the Slave Master be the one that gets shanked in the trailer? Looks similar.

  307. Greenjones
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Hand of the Kingslayer,

    Imdb is both fan-edited and given info by agencies. A lot of the listings of actors whose names came out through casting announcements are not correctly placed, particularly when checked against their CVs. That’s because fans heard the news and half-assedly edited imdb to place the names. However, something like a stunt man was never announced and we found out over imdb. That was added by the man’s agency, not by fans because fans had no way of knowing.

  308. The Purist
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Abyss: GoT has won a shit load of awards (and still wins them) including 10 Emmys, 1 Golden Globe and 1 Hugo. So please stop pretending that GoT doesn’t win major awards…

    Apart from the awards that went to Peter Dinkalge’s, the others were technical awards. The performances and crew who creates the costume, set and special fx are not the problem of the show, it’s Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dum. GoT will never win from best drama or writing from a major award show with those two being show runner.

  309. Lord Davos
    Posted January 24, 2014 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    The Purist: Apart from the awards that went to Peter Dinkalge’s, the others were technical awards. The performances and crew who creates the costume, set and special fx are not the problem of the show, it’s Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dum. GoT will never win from best drama or writing from a major award show with those two being show runner.

    Well, Benioff wrote the script for Troy. Got to count for something.

  310. The Purist
    Posted January 25, 2014 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    Lord Davos: Well, Benioff wrote the script for Troy. Got to count for something.

    Oh… Troy… *vomit*. If making people throw up counts then I guess that’s something. I remember I had an argument with someone here sometime ago that GRRM should be grateful for D&D, when it’s the other way around. Just look at the horrible scripts both D&D wrote before doing GoT. Seriously, D&D should be offering back rubs to GRRM every day, because it is GRRM’s work who got both of them out of obscurity.

  311. Arthur
    Posted January 25, 2014 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    The Purist,

    I disagree.

    I enjoyed ‘Troy’ and I think the writing was good.

    To this day I still remember lines from that movie. The scene that I remember clearly is when the old king of Troy sneaks into Achilles tent and says things like.

    “I have endured what no father has done before me, I kissed the hands of the man who killed my son”

    And

    “I loved my boy from the moment he opened his eyes till the moment you closed them”

    And

    “You are my enemie now Achilles, but that doesn’t mean we can’t show each other some respect”

    There’s many more scenes and lines in that movie that were awesome.

    Everyone has a different opinion of what’s good and not good so please don’t assume your opinion is factual when, in the end, it’s only your opinion.

    Maybe ‘Troy’ honestly made you want to vomit but that doesn’t mean it had that effect on everyone else.

  312. Lord Davos
    Posted January 25, 2014 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    The Purist,

    There is still The kite runner, which proves something about his ability for adapt.

  313. Lord Davos
    Posted January 25, 2014 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I too remember.
    There was this scene between Paris(Orlando Bloom) where he was set to duel some brute. He eventually was saved by his brother Hector. One of the few times i have seen Bloom being able to make feel for his character.
    The scene has similarities with the glimpses of a certain upcoming duel in GoT,
    wich means Benioff is probably going to be kicking it out of the field.
    Troy had some miscastings, which i didnt like. Otherwise i liked the movie better than Lord of the rings.

  314. The Purist
    Posted January 25, 2014 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    Lord Davos:

    There is still The kite runner, which proves something about his ability for adapt.

    What about that X-Men Origins: Wolverine? That movie was awesome, when one is really stoned.

    Arthur: Everyone has a different opinion of what’s good and not good so please don’t assume your opinion is factual when, in the end, it’s only your opinion.

    Maybe ‘Troy’ honestly made you want to vomit but that doesn’t mean it had that effect on everyone else.

    What did I say that my opinions represent everyone’s opinions? You’re putting words in my mouth, which I shouldn’t find surprising, since it’s tactics I have seen from GoT fanboys. Can’t believe I’m being preach by someone who dismissed Breaking Bad because it’s simply just a show about drug dealers and later admitted he has never seen the show. But what should I expect from a GoT fanboy. Like Troy or not, the critics were mixed on the movie, but at least it scored big at the box office, which should make hacks like David Benioff happy. After all, I remember correctly, you were the one who said how merchandise and dvd sales are good indicators of how good a show is.

  315. Lord Davos
    Posted January 25, 2014 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    The Purist,

    X-men was heavily re-written by someone else i recall.

  316. The Purist
    Posted January 26, 2014 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    Lord Davos,

    If anyone was credited for writing something as horrible as that movie, can’t blame them saying that someone re-wrote their script. Anyway it doesn’t matter, the fact is that it’s GRRM who put both Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dum on the map.

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