How Thrones stacks up in the nudity game
By Ours is the Fury on in Press.

Debates around the frequent nudity on the show Girls had MTV curious about how the series compared to some of the other most notoriously naked shows around at the moment. After checking out the most recent seasons of Girls, Orange is the New Black, True Blood, Masters of Sex, and Game of Thrones, here’s how they stacked up.

And despite Game of Thrones‘ reputation for gratuitous nudity, it wasn’t even close. The winner? HBO’s True Blood.

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Ours is the Fury: I watch True Blood, so I’m really not surprised by the results. Romance and sexuality are a huge part of the storylines, and they also have a better track record with showing male nudity than the other shows in the infographic. The discussion about what is and isn’t gratuitous will presumably continue. GoT actually did have a bit of full frontal male nudity in season 3 during Loras and Olyvar’s scene which is unaccounted for here, but it was very quick and I suppose MTV’s naked-accounting interns may not have as sharp an eye.


101 Comments

  1. Lex W.
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    No full-frontal male nudity? Last place on boobs? Looks like Game of Thrones needs to… *puts on sunglasses* Up it’s game!

  2. MrBushido
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Game on, Season 4.

  3. House Mormont
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    17 boobs? 11 boobs? 95 boobs? where are all these odd numbers coming from?

    we definitely had more than 2 boob scenes this season, the whores with Theon, the whore with Mero, the whore with Bronn, surely one of the three whores with Pod, Ygritte?

    We also got more than 3 butts, Ygritte in the tub, Dany in the tub, Brienne in the tub, Talisa on the bed, whores whore whores

  4. Brucey
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    They’re wrong. Kissed by Fire had male full frontal in season three.

  5. LymD
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    I think they forgot that scene with Loras.

  6. Ours is the Fury
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Brucey,

    LymD,

    Yeah, I mentioned that in the post.

    Incidentally, I think the breast count for True Blood looks a little low as well. I don’t know if these interns were as careful as they could have been. Fandom-wide recount? For science?

  7. House Mormont
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Oh and I forgot, add Melisandre to boobs and butts

  8. Myrish Swampert
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Need more nude scenes from now on. We cannot lose the game.

  9. The Dragon Demands
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    I think they’re counting “instances” of topless scenes (one scene doesn’t equal “two” breasts) – though how to categorize scenes with multiple topless women in them? Let’s count it as one “scene”.

    Even so, this count is *blatantly wrong*:

    There *was* a male frontal nudity scene, in episode 5 “Kissed by Fire”. Moreover it was a homosexual male sex scene – then the male prostitute Olyver got up and walked around. There are a lot of tumblr jokes about this. Yet they said there was no male nudity this season?

    Moreover, how could there be only *two* instances of a woman’s boobs? There was:
    *Daenerys’s bath
    *Ygritte having sex with Jon Snow
    *the prostitute girls who had sex with Podrick – TWO full frontal women, there.
    *Melisandre and Gendry!
    *The whores who Ramsay used to torture Theon.

    Counting these as “scenes” (even when multiple women were in a scene), that brings it up to AT LEAST five We also saw Brienne’s butt, and Jaime’s butt from behind in their bath scene.

  10. Jen@House Stark
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Thank the Seven for Jaime in that bath scene!

  11. Deathdreams
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    What game of thrones lacks in quantity, they make up in quality…especially over Girls.
    I’d like to see how some older series stack up like Californication or Hung, or even Dream on . I know there wasn’t that much in Dexter or Weeds.

  12. Darkstar
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    They forget the wine merchant dragged behind the Dothraki horde in season one.

    Ooops. I see that rating is for season 3.

  13. Rygar
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    No penis jokes.

  14. Delta1212
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    I think that “fully nude” scenes don’t count toward the “boob/butt” totals.

  15. Atreyu
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    No category for moobs? Misandry!

  16. Lord Stannis's Soul
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    They need to compare all of these with a 6th row: “1970s German porn”

  17. Renly's Peach
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Hopefully this will get the South Park idiots to finally shut up.

    But it won’t.

  18. Deathdreams
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Renly’s Peach,
    i say, If you’ve got the reputation, just own it….One weiner next to yet another weiner…weiner , floppy weiner..

  19. Strider
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark:
    Thank the Seven for Jaime in that bath scene.

    Agreed. Thank R’llor and the Great Other too! (I’m not discriminating or who knows what we’ll see next!)

    Oh, and a Stark lady enjoying a Lannister eye candy! I LOVE IT! LOL

  20. Victor Macedo
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    House Mormont,

    I think those numbers are seconds on air….

  21. Zack
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Confirms my own expectations. Thanks for doing this.

    After season 3, my appreciation for what they did with Ros increased a great deal to the point where it raised my enjoyment of her scenes from previous seasons. I was surprised about that.

    Anyway, while there have been numerous scenes of nudity with questionable value to the narrative, this should put it into perspective. They’re doing a commendable job of keeping to the spirit of GRRM’s text, satisfying the perv quotient, and yet not really going overboard.

    They still have work to do addressing the issue of male gaze, but all things considered, I don’t have much to complain about.

  22. Rygar
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    9 out of the 9.5 boobs on Girls are Lena Dunham’s horror shows.

  23. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Why do you publish this if you know the data is incorrect? Get it right, account for all seasons, provide a cumulative analysis, cover scene-by-scene, then republish. Be thorough….or do you enjoy simply forwarding shit again and again? It would be nice to read some original stuff (to supplement Oz posts, Greatjon posts, Tyler Davis posts, Dorne posts and GOO) with in-house metrics/data collected or provide some more insight to the original article rather than this secondhand shit.

    Btw, the Huffington Post already did something similar (total minutes of nudity vs sex scenes across seasons) several months back. Turns out that about 1.4% of GoT screen time (23.5 minutes of sex out of 1650 minutes of show) is dedicated to sexual situations.

  24. Winter Is Coming
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Lord Stannis’s Soul:
    They need to compare all of these with a 6th row: “1970s German porn”

    orsonwellesclapping.gif

  25. mariamb
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    naked-accounting interns

    Love this!

  26. Winter Is Coming
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard:
    Ours is the Fury,

    Why do you publish this if you know the data is incorrect? Get it right, account for all seasons, provide a cumulative analysis, cover scene-by-scene, then republish. Be thorough….or do you enjoy simply forwarding shit again and again? It would be nice to read some original stuff (to supplement Oz posts, Greatjon posts, Tyler Davis posts and GOO) with in-house metrics/data collected or some more insight to the original article rather than this secondhand shit.

    Btw, the Huffington Post already did something similar (total minutes of nudity vs sex scenes across seasons) several months back.Turns out that about 1.4% of of GoT screen time (23.5minutes of sex out of 1650 minutes of show) is dedicated to sexual situations.

    Where the hell is this coming from? What’s with the aggressive and accusatory comment? There’s nothing wrong with this post. Fury corrected the one issue she found with the chart in the body of the post. There’s your extra insight into the original article.

    And we’re not allowed to pass on information from other sites now? We have to do all our own research? As Sweet Brown would say, “Ain’t nobody got time for that!”

  27. Jaqen is Q
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Guess how many boobs I saw today, Marge… FIFTEEN!

  28. jentario
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    Yeah, season 3 was a huge improvement over the first two in the gratutious sex department. There was much less of it, and when it did happen it was usually either short or necessary for the plot.

  29. Hear Me Roar
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Lord Stannis’s Soul,

    Haha, this! :)

    Someone should count these categories for every season of these shows and average it, to be fair :)

  30. jentario
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Look at that, my computer still has “jentario” as my username.

  31. Bergey
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Looks like we need to catch up to Girls!

  32. Turri
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    What a weird idea. Pretty sure only Americans care, no offense.

  33. jentario
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Lord Stannis’s Soul,

    Stephen Dillane would give GoT 100 1970 German porn points (or, as he calls them 70s GPPs). He should know- he’s the expert in that subject, after all.

  34. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming As Sweet Brown would say, “Ain’t nobody got time for that!”

    That last line just made me sad. You know what I’m saying, Winter & OitF. I was just hoping for more here than what we can supposedly get from “Teen Beat”. Just delete my post then, it wasn’t appropriate.

  35. Duval
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Turri,

    I’m a non-American and I care. Although I’m interested would be a better way to put it. I have no problem with nudity whatsoever in the show, but I do enjoy reading this stuff.
    Also, it helps kill some time until the next season actually airs.

  36. Winter Is Coming
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: That last line just made me sad. You know what I’m saying, Winter. I was just hoping for more here than what I can supposedly get from “Teen Beat”.Just delete my post then, it wasn’t appropriate.

    I was just trying to be funny. Point is, we try to keep up a good mix of original content with a reporting of the latest news from around the web. Sorry if the amount of original content hasn’t been up to snuff lately, but we all also have real lives and real jobs which sometimes get in the way of that. You should see more original stuff coming out soon though, as the season always gives us more to opine about.

  37. HodorsDong
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    I’m pretty sure I have made an appearance and that Osha commented about my giant’s blood.

  38. Jen@House Stark
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Strider: Agreed. Thank R’llor and the Great Other too! (I’m not discriminating or who knows what we’ll see next!)

    Oh, and a Stark lady enjoying a Lannister eye candy! I LOVE IT! LOL

    Oh, you bet! Lady Stark is not blind :smile:

  39. jentario
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    HodorsDong,

    Rygar, is that you?

  40. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    HodorsDong:
    I’m pretty sure I have made an appearance and that Osha commented about my giant’s blood.

    You brought the smile back, ser. I want a 3-D hypercubed matrix of GoT characters matched to specific nether regions exposed, matched to associated episodes, supplemented by time of exposure, gratuitousness factor, and whether it was violent or erotic in nature. Is that too much to ask?….oh, fuck it, I’ll do it myself then…

    :/

  41. Ours is the Fury
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    HodorsDong: I’m pretty sure I have made an appearance and that Osha commented about my giant’s blood.

    That was Season 1. The infographic is only about the most recent season. Always nice to see HodorsDong, though.

  42. loco73
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Bah, why all this agravation over this?! All this shit, is just generated from hangers on anyways. Now because everybody’s figured out that being part of GoT is cool, they’ll do stuff like this just to get attention, especially MTV a fucktarded network way past its relevance and expiration date.

    Anything coming MTV is worth about as much as a fart in the wind…

    PS Are we going to have a countdown clock this year? I miss it…

  43. reza
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Well, even though that show is over but if they had spartacus (any season) it would win by a mile, that show was basically a soft porn mixed with cgi blood here and there.

  44. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    If you look really closely when Jaime is getting in the tub, you can see more than just butt. Not that I was looking really closely. It was um, a friend.

  45. Annara Snow
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    jentario:
    Zack,

    Yeah, season 3 was a huge improvement over the first two in the gratutious sex department. There was much less of it, and when it did happen it was usually either short or necessary for the plot.

    This is a contradiction. Gratuitous sex is, by definition, NOT necessary to the plot. That’s like saying “there were fewer naked people this time, and when they were there, they were usually clothed”.

    “Gratuitous” means without good reason, and gratuitous sex/nudity/violence is one that’s totally unnecessary for plot and characterization and it’s only there for its own sake, usually for fanservice. Dany/Drogo sex, Ygritte/Jon sex = not gratuitous; Cersei’s Walk of shame – nudity that’s very relevant to the plot and therefore definitely not gratuitous. On the other hand, “sexposition”, random naked woman on Bronn’s lap, Pod the sex god = totally gratuitous.

    The incorrect use of “gratuitous” is becoming my pet peeve, alongside the incorrect use of “literally”.

  46. Anguissette1979
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    I think Black Sails (Starz) may have them all beat in only two episodes!

  47. B
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    What about Hodor and the guy that tried to kill Dany season 1? Both full frontal!

  48. Ros' Merkin
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow: This is a contradiction. Gratuitous sex is, by definition, NOT necessary to the plot. That’s like saying “there were fewer naked people this time, and when they were there, they were usually clothed”.

    “Gratuitous” means without good reason, and gratuitous sex/nudity/violence is one that’s totally unnecessary for plot and characterization and it’s only there for its own sake, usually for fanservice. Dany/Drogo sex, Ygritte/Jon sex = not gratuitous; Cersei’s Walk of shame – nudity that’s very relevant to the plot and therefore definitely not gratuitous. On the other hand, “sexposition”, random naked woman on Bronn’s lap, Pod the sex god = totally gratuitous.

    The incorrect use of “gratuitous” is becoming my pet peeve, alongside the incorrect use of “literally”.

    Thank you for the English lesson. You are literally incorrect about GoT’s nudity and sex “definitely not [being] gratuitous.” The fact that something happened in the books or that it furthers the plot does not make the nudity and simulated sex acts any less gratuitous. Just as has been done for the majority of television history, something can happen in the story without graphically showing it. It wouldn’t be nearly as much fun to watch without all that GRATUITOUS sex and nudity, but that’s not the point, is it?

  49. Valyrian Plastic
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    B,

    Theon too! Though as Butters thankfully pointed out Last Black Friday, they were all floppy. Not that they had to be hard, but as Theon had just finished inside Ros at the time, some other people pointed out that he should’ve been.

    There were definitely more instances of female nudity in the first 2 seasons, but who’s counting? It’s a bit ironic, given that the majority of the sex in the books is from Tyrion’s perspective, and the only female viewpoints I can remember with major sexual themes were Dany and Cersei.

  50. Jordan
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Kind of too bad that Boardwalk Empire wasn’t included. I actually didn’t watch this past season of it, but at least in the first two seasons, I think it would stack up pretty evenly with GOT and possibly (although I’m skeptical) surpass it.

    Edit- @B, they aren’t mentioned, because the list is only measuring GOT’s nudity in season 3.

  51. Al Swearengen
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    We need more shots of Hodor’s gigantic penis!!!!!!!!

  52. A Man Grown
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    My head literally exploded when I read your comment. They’re still cleaning up the bits of brain as we speak. If you want to know how I’m typing this comment without a head, you can thank the Red God.

  53. Rygar
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Anguissette1979,

    Where have you been?

  54. Rygar
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    jentario,

    No. Rygar is Rygar unless he is Jason Isaacs as Euron.

  55. Ours is the Fury
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Boardwalk Empire was so grim this year. I can’t remember as much random nudity this past season though I don’t know if that’s accurate. Someone should do an accounting. For science.

    B,

    Valyrian Plastic,

    None of those instances occurred in season 3, the season being assessed as noted on the chart and in the post.

  56. Arya Dunyett
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow

    This is a contradiction. Gratuitous sex is, by definition, NOT necessary to the plot. That’s like saying “there were fewer naked people this time, and when they were there, they were usually clothed”.

    Bingo! This is great! A perfect analogy!

    Personally, I don’t give a ratzass about the nudity as long as it doesn’t interfere with the story or take up precious time.

    But I also appreciate a fine turn of cheek when it presents itself on GoT or elsewhere.

  57. B
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    More gratuitous male full frontal please!

  58. NomadicDirewolf
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    2 pairs of boobs in all of GoT, is that what this is saying? either i’m confused about how there counting this or this is way off.
    Also, not sure if it would count but reasonably sure that they had theon completely naked in s1, so thats probably one for that column

  59. Turncloak
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    This is shameful. How is Game of Thrones losing this contest! Lets up the boobage in Season 4. I vote for Missandei to bring us the championship ;]

  60. cosca
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    NomadicDirewolf,

    These stats are only for the latest season of each show.

  61. Annara Snow
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    Ros’ Merkin: Thank you for the English lesson.You are literally incorrect about GoT’s nudity and sex “definitely not [being] gratuitous.”The fact that something happened in the books or that it furthers the plot does not make the nudity and simulated sex acts any less gratuitous.Just as has been done for the majority of television history, something can happen in the story without graphically showing it.It wouldn’t be nearly as much fun to watch without all that GRATUITOUS sex and nudity, but that’s not the point, is it?

    You have incorrectly used “gratuitous”, and gratuitously used “literally”. Congratulations!

  62. Trilambdas
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    I think you’re funny and cleverer than most! Keep bringing the content (read ‘the’ as ‘any’), I’ll consume it all! I love this site! Thanks for it all!

  63. Annara Snow
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Valyrian Plastic:
    B,

    Theon too! Though as Butters thankfully pointed out Last Black Friday, they were all floppy. Not that they had to be hard, but as Theon had just finished inside Ros at the time, some other people pointed out that he should’ve been.

    There were definitely more instances of female nudity in the first 2 seasons, but who’s counting? It’s a bit ironic, given that the majority of the sex in the books is from Tyrion’s perspective, and the only female viewpoints I can remember with major sexual themes were Dany and Cersei.

    Asha, Arianne, there’s a sex scene (though not a very graphic one) in one of the early Catelyn chapters, though later sex doesn’t get mentioned. Even Sansa’s chapters have sexual *themes*, and she even got to listen to Lysa very loudly having sex with LF.

  64. Patchy Face
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    How about irregardless?

  65. Qbert
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    Whoever completely botched this job either got their copy of Season 3 from a version aired in India … or got their statistics from the White House. Because it is so wrong its not even close.

    Just off the top of my head alone I can recall at least 8 boob shots in Season 3.

    Bronns whore.
    At least two whores for Podrick
    Dany
    Ygritte
    Two girls for Reek
    Ros

  66. cosca
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Qbert,

    All of those boob shots you’ve included were counted under the fully nude women section I believe. Cleavage doesn’t count, so the Ros one is out. I think the two women in one scene would count as one instance as well.

  67. Annara Snow
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    A Man Grown:
    Annara Snow,

    My head literally exploded when I read your comment. They’re still cleaning up the bits of brain as we speak. If you want to know how I’m typing this comment without a head, you can thank the Red God.

    My jaw literally hit the floor when I read this. I hate it when that happens. Then it got worse, I was literally torn to pieces when I thought about your explosive decapitation. I am now literally picking up the pieces and trying to make the best of it, but it’s too blood-and-guts for my taste. (A little bit of cream on top may help.)

    *This post is entirely gratuitous*

  68. Rygar
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    Yes but how do you feel about 70s German porn?

  69. That Stark boy
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    GoT looks like Rugrats compared to True Blood. In terms of nudity. ONLY.
    jentario,
    Fully agreed, the whole amount of nudity shown in ‘The Night Lands’ alone might equal the entire third season. Probably.

  70. Dornishman
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak:
    This is shameful. How is Game of Thrones losing this contest! Lets up the boobage in Season 4. I vote for Missandei to bring us the championship ;]

    Why just boobage and not cock shots huh?

  71. Turncloak
    Posted February 5, 2014 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Byron and Dino are doing a live reaction video to the Game of Thrones Trailer! You’re welcome :-]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dw5GsMFuPw

  72. Felt Pelt
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Thank you, Turncloak.

  73. Caroline
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 2:19 am | Permalink

    No Knobs!!!? I’ve counted 3 so far…..Hodor (prosthetic fake but still a huge knob)
    Theon’s – quick flash when with Ros, and then the wine merchant who tried to sell poisoned wine being led naked.

  74. Valyrian Plastic
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 4:12 am | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    I should’ve specified, I meant actually having sex, though I forgot about the chapter from Oakheart’s perspective, which is one POV George wished he’d dropped in retrospect. Sansa’s heard other people having sex, even given the threat of rape (Brienne and Arya too) but the riots in King’s Landing happened in Tyrion’s viewpoint, and he gets at least 2 moments with Shae.

  75. Hear Me Roar
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 6:28 am | Permalink

    Okay people, to repeat: the count is just for the latest season of each show.

  76. A Man Grown
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    I actually did literally fall out of my chair and roll on the floor laughing once, when I saw The Producers on Broadway. Thankfully no injuries resulted.

  77. Rygar
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 9:06 am | Permalink

    Do boobs on a single women equal a score of one or two?

  78. Chris
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Oh, and don’t be thrown off by “Girls” being in the lead.
    The customary idea behind nudity in entertainment, at least the kind of gratuitous, fun, “tadaah” nudity we’re discussing here, is that it usually applies to someone you’d actually WANT to see nude… ever.
    On that count, “Girls’” score is closer to zero.

  79. Rygar
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    Chris,

    Where is Girls in the lead? It is tied with or less than others in every category. And I am sure there are quite a few people who want to see Adam Drivers ass.

    Now if you’re talking about Lena’s body, well yes, its a fucking train wreck, but it does have an “everyday girl” quality that is more realistic than the porn star models we see in GoT.

  80. Tony
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Chris,

    Where is Girls in the lead?It is tied with or less than others in every category.And I am sure there are quite a few people who want to see Adam Drivers ass.

    Now if you’re talking about Lena’s body, well yes, its a fucking train wreck,but it does have an “everyday girl” quality that is more realistic than the porn star models we see in GoT.

    That’s funny. I am sure plenty of girls want to see Adam Driver’s ass i agree but i don’t think many men want to see Lena naked over and over AGAIN while the rest of the (hot) cast remains covered up. Have you seen Allison Williams her ‘sex’ scene last year. She tried everything just not to show her breasts. Talk about breaking through the fifth wall there.

    Spartacus would easily ‘triumph’ over all of these much agreed. True Blood is way above the rest but i feel Game of Thrones definitely shouldnt be behind all those other shows (all of which i have seen except for Orange) As everyone said not everything was counted.

    Anguissette1979:
    I think Black Sails (Starz) may have them all beat in only two episodes!

    You are sure we have been watching the same show? Because this show has been remarkably coy when it comes to nudity so far. I don’t count those merkins as real full frontal shots of the ladies BTW (‘blackbeard’) which leaves just the brief sex scene in episode 1 with a couple shots of breasts. A bit of lesbian kissing with maybe a shot of breasts in episode 1, A bit of sideboob in episode 2 and a full frontal flash from Jessica Parker Kennedy (that might have been her bush i don’t know). There were also two random naked girls walking through screen for a second in episode 2…
    I had expected a lot more honestly… It’s not on par with Spartacus (or Magic City) so far really…

  81. Annara Snow
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    Valyrian Plastic:
    Annara Snow,

    I should’ve specified, I meant actually having sex, though I forgot about the chapter from Oakheart’s perspective, which is one POV George wished he’d dropped in retrospect. Sansa’s heard other people having sex, even given the threat of rape (Brienne and Arya too) but the riots in King’s Landing happened in Tyrion’s viewpoint, and he gets at least 2 moments with Shae.

    He did? I’ve never heard that, do you know where he said that?

    Now you’ve made me try to list all the sex happening to a POV character in their chapters…

    Catelyn: has sex with Ned in her second (I believe) chapter, I think it’s the first sex scene in the books.
    Dany: sex with Drogo several times in AGOT, Irri pleasuring her a couple of times in ASOS, sex with Daario in ADWD
    Tyrion: sex with Shae a few times, memories of sex with Tysha, that scene with the sex slave in Essos (ugh)
    Theon: the Captain’s Daughter in ACOK and then there’s what Ramsey makes him do to Jeyne in ADWD
    Jon: lots of sex with Ygritte in ASOS
    Jaime: sex with Cersei in ASOS, more memories of sex with Cersei at various points
    Sam: fat pink mast
    Arys Oakheart: sex with Arianne
    Cersei: Myrish swamp, memories of sex with Jaime and sexual abuse by Robert
    Asha: sex with Qarl the Maid (ADWD)
    Arianne: present day sex with Arya happens in his chapter, but IRRC she has some fond memories of her early sexual experiences with I-can’t-remember-who, some of her childhood friends?
    Varamyr: memories (fortunately, not graphic) of the women he raped as well as skinchanging into the she-wolf when the male wolf was mounting her

    The last bit was a particularly bizarre one.

  82. Rygar
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    You forgot Cressen fucking himself by trying to poison Mel.

  83. Annara Snow
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Annara Snow,

    You forgot Cressen fucking himself by trying to poison Mel.

    Oh, if I were to count the instances of people fucking themselves, there would be a lot more sex in the books, especially in Ned’s chapters.

  84. Valyrian Plastic
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Annara Snow: He did? I’ve never heard that, do you know where he said that?

    I can’t remember which interview, but it was one of the hour+ long ones that are on YouTube. I think I’ve listened to/watched them all twice over. There’s one he did with Google, and a 3-parter with TIFF, many more besides they’re all brilliant (if a little predictable after a few of them, but that’s all in the nature of interviews). He was basically asked which bits he’d go back and alter if he could, and normally he’d say he might’ve made Robb a POV during his conquest in the Westerlands, but in one of them he thought that Arys wasn’t really necessary, given he had Arianne and Areo as Dornish viewpoints, so it was the one time he thought he’d could drop a chapter.

  85. Rygar
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Annara Snow: Oh, if I were to count the instances of people fucking themselves, there would be a lot more sex in the books, especially in Ned’s chapters.

    Ha so true! I am curious how many instances someone fucked themselves over in the books. This I task to you! ;)

    You should join us a WiCgeeks.

  86. A Man Grown
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Thank you for the “everyday girl” comment. It’s a bit ridiculous for guys to think every woman they ever see naked should look like a pornstar. I have no problem with the nudity on Girls (though I sometimes have a problem with uneven writing).

    Also Adam Driver is the best thing that ever happened to Girls. He should be in every TV show. Let’s get him to play Nimble Dick Crabb in GoT and be all snarky to Brienne.

  87. queenofthorns
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Tony: I am sure plenty of girls want to see Adam Driver’s ass i agree

    Rygar: And I am sure there are quite a few people who want to see Adam Drivers ass.

    As a woman, a thousand times no. I get sleaze-butterflies every time his character comes on the screen. You really think Adam Driver is more attractive than Lena Dunham objectively speaking? IMO, no one on that show is attractive, or even meant to be.

    It doesn’t help that they (their characters that is) are all awful people, male or female which at least for me is hard to get past…

  88. Rygar
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    queenofthorns,

    No. I think they are both attractive.
    Funny how you say that about the characters of Girls almost repulsively and being “hard to get past” when they are just as disgusting or even less so than 80% of the characters in GoT.

  89. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    Rygar:
    queenofthorns,
    Funny how you say that about the characters of Girls almost repulsively and being “hard to get past” when they are just as disgusting or even less so than 80% of the characters in GoT.

    …and the characters in Seinfeld, Sopranos, Mad Men, BB, the Simpsons, etc….the ever-dubious viewing audience is usually attracted to interestingly edgy characters that are often hard to imagine liking in real life.

  90. A Man Grown
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    +1. This also reminds me of how some people loved Walt and hated Skyler on Breaking Bad. Um hello, Walt is a drug manufacturer/dealer and a murderer…

  91. A Man Grown
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    WICgeeks looks pretty cool, I might check it out too.

  92. Rygar
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    A Man Grown,

    Good people there. :)

  93. King in the North Carolina
    Posted February 6, 2014 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    Agreed! They didn’t age up Missandei for nothing; lets see the goods!

  94. Kelly
    Posted February 7, 2014 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    You seem like a very unhappy person. I hope one day you take your misery and leave us alone. Just go away please!

  95. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted February 7, 2014 at 3:13 am | Permalink

    Kelly,

    Your ability to judge character and disposition is about as good as your ability to make a relevant GoT comment. Feel free to visit your local library and judge all those books by their covers.

  96. Jen@House Stark
    Posted February 7, 2014 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    A Man Grown,

    Yes, do! We would love to have you.

  97. René
    Posted February 7, 2014 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Where is Banshee? How could MTV News snubb that show? Are they blind?

  98. Anon1
    Posted February 8, 2014 at 4:23 am | Permalink

    House Mormont,

    It said 9.5, not 95.

  99. TheBerylfly
    Posted February 8, 2014 at 7:55 am | Permalink

    I am guessing that when they count a women in a “fully naked” chart like Ygritte with Jon they don’t account for her boobs separetely

  100. Baramos
    Posted February 8, 2014 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    If it were still around, I wonder how Spartacus would be stacking up these days? It’d have to be at least second place.

  101. krats
    Posted February 9, 2014 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Dornishman,

    Definitely agree. All of these shows need more pork swords.


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