Rose Leslie promotes Game of Thrones in Australia
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Today, we have gathered up a few more videos from Rose Leslie’s recent visit to Australia in promotion of the Game of Thrones Season 3 DVD Launch.

In an interview with Sky News Rose discusses the daunting task of joining such a popular show in it’s second season, what we can expect from Ygritte in Season 4 as a woman scorned, and who she would ultimately like to see on the Iron Throne.

As a guest on Ten’s The Project Rose gives a brief overview of Game of Thrones (which she refuses to watch with her parents), and admits that she loves playing Ygritte. Rose dishes on what it’s like to kiss Kit Harington, and answers whether she wishes she had been cast as a character who spends a bit more time in the sun. The hosts also show her some Red Wedding reaction videos on youtube and she discusses the fan’s dedication to the show.

Rose also stopped by the KIIS 1065 studios for the Kyle & Jackie O Show. Rose admits that her favourite character, and the one she hates to love, is none other than Joffrey Baratheon. She discusses filming her very first nude scene, scaling the wall, and preparing for a musical scene courtesy of pranksters David and Dan. Rose also talks with some fans and gives a small Season 4 tease.

If you missed Rose’s interview with CNet Australia you can check it out here.


70 Comments

  1. GeekFurious
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    The true mark of a great actor is one who is NOTHING like the characters they play. And she is sooooo nothing like any of the characters I’ve ever seen her play.

  2. Lollius Palicanus
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Did she say Dany in Dorne?

  3. king tyrion
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Lollius Palicanus,

    Yea i think she did. I don’t know if that’s kind of a spoiler or she just is clueless about plot details like that. I’m betting it’s the second one.

  4. Doug
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Lollius Palicanus:
    Did she say Dany in Dorne?

    Yes, she did. I would imagine this is her misspeaking or sadly, like some of the other cast members having limited knowledge of the story.

  5. Dammit Patrice
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Dany in Dorne? DAFUCK??!

  6. Rygar
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    Oh so THATs the true mark of a great actor? Now it all makes sense.

  7. Emma
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    She did say that non-sense but please note that she read the first 4 books so she knows what she’s talking about, it was just a mistake, she’s just a human being who was doing interviews all day so she was probably tired or i don’t know but yeah. I don’t think we’ll see Dany in Dorne soon :)

  8. GG
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    So is that a GRRM-coversation-related slip? Or does she just not know what’s going on?

  9. Carlos
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Well, we know from the trailer that the dragons are coming to King’s Landing this season, so I don’t see what’s so shocking about Dany stopping by in Dorne :)
    But yeah, probably just messed up Essos with Dorne for second. It’s a small mistake, and doesn’t necessarily indicate she doesn’t really know the show. There’s loads of Unsullied who would have no idea what you were talking about if you mentioned Dorne.

  10. GG
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    Carlos,

    So are you Unsullied or not? Cos what you’re saying seems to suggest you are.

  11. Carlos
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    GG,

    Sullied. I was joking, as the :) was meant to indicate. It was basically in reference to the number of unsullied who probably are thinking the Dragons are coming to KL this season based on the trailer.

  12. king tyrion
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    It wouldn’t surprise me if many of the unsullied confused Essos with dorne. Dorne is talked about so much without any characters from or in Dorne to give context to a viewer. Essos meanwhile is never mentioned by name as far as I know in the show. The mistake would be understandable.

  13. Hoyti Von Totiy
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Danny in Dorne for season 5 is a good idea.

  14. Al Swearengen
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    You know nothing Rose Leslie.

  15. Annara Snow
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Carlos:
    Well, we know from the trailer that the dragons are coming to King’s Landing this season, so I don’t see what’s so shocking about Dany stopping by in Dorne :)
    But yeah, probably just messed up Essos with Dorne for second. It’s a small mistake, and doesn’t necessarily indicate she doesn’t really know the show. There’s loads of Unsullied who would have no idea what you were talking about if you mentioned Dorne.

    She says she’s read the first four books, so she should know the difference.

    It’s probably a slip of the tongue. Maybe Dorne was on her mind after reading AFFC.

    Anyway, she is right about one thing, Daenerys was in Dorne… it was just a different Daenerys, some 140 years earlier, and with no dragons. ;)

  16. Rickard Greyjoy
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    Just a mistake most likely. If she has read the first four books then she’s been bombarded with so many names of people and places that it’s easy to get two confused. She said Dorne but was probably thinking Mereen.

  17. Reza
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    a weirdly pointless 40 second video is uploaded on GOT YouTube page BTW!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so31qIY8A-c

  18. GeekFurious
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    GeekFurious,

    Oh so THATs the true mark of a great actor?Now it all makes sense.

    Hey look, the resident narcissist noticed me!

  19. bwayne
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Ygritte has probably never heard of Dany and probably never met anyone from Dorne, being so far North, so I’ll give her a pass.

  20. Turncloak
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Just saw the deleted scene where Jon meets Mance. Can’t believe that scene was cut. Much better than what they showed during the season. But it might have been a tad long, which is why it was probably cut

  21. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted February 23, 2014 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Lollius Palicanus,

    A slip of the tongue, probably. She did read up to book 4.

  22. Doug
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    This is turning into a hallmark for the show. Cutting scenes that turn out better than what airs. Same for the deleted scenes in season 2. I don’t understand to be honest.

  23. Lucy
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    Saw the first one while I was at work! :D got excited.

  24. cosca
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 1:29 am | Permalink

    Doug,

    The Season 2 deleted scenes were garbage, except maybe the Loras/Margaery one, but that was hardly better than what aired.

  25. Reza
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    totally unrelated to this post:

    I was watching season 1 again and the part where Catlyn tells Robb that Walder Frey is letting him cross the bridge with his demands. She tells Robb that he is also giving you his men except 400 to remain and defend the Twins. But in Season 3 Robb went back to the Freys mainly to reinforce his army to attack Castly Rock! Is this a contradiction on the part of show runners or they simply forgot to mention that he lost the Frey men when he married Thalisa so he had to go back?

  26. jaybib
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 2:09 am | Permalink

    Reza:
    totally unrelated tothis post:

    I was watching season 1 again and the part where Catlyn tells Robb that Walder Frey is letting him cross the bridge with his demands. She tells Robb that he is also giving you his men except 400 to remain and defend the Twins. But in Season 3 Robb went back to the Freys mainly to reinforce his army to attack Castly Rock! Is this a contradiction on the part of show runners or they simply forgot to mention that he lost the Frey men when he married Thalisa so he had to go back?

    When Robb married Talisa, the Frey army left and went back to the Twins. But it didn’t matter because he had a good enough amount of men. When he killed Karstark, he lost all the Karstark men, so he needed to go back and get the Frey army back again.

  27. Lollius Palicanus
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 2:25 am | Permalink

    Hand of the Kingslayer,

    Yeah, probably. I honestly wasn’t sure what she was saying, so it was just a question.

  28. Joshua Atreides
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 2:41 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    Well said Ser!

  29. Satin
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 4:22 am | Permalink

    cosca:
    Doug,

    The Season 2 deleted scenes were garbage, except maybe the Loras/Margaery one, but that was hardly better than what aired.

    The one with Sansa and the Hound – where he demands that she sings for him, and she says she doesn’t know any songs, not anymore – is very good, though, and a companion piece to the one they had in Blackwater at that. I’m not usually one to complain about Sansa’s storyline, but that is a scene that really should not have been cut.

  30. Annara Snow
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 6:48 am | Permalink

    Satin: The one with Sansa and the Hound – where he demands that she sings for him, and she says she doesn’t know any songs, not anymore – is very good, though, and a companion piece to the one they had in Blackwater at that. I’m not usually one to complain about Sansa’s storyline, but that is a scene that really should not have been cut.

    That scene was horrible, and evidence that D&D really have trouble writing their dynamic, and writing for the Hound’s character in general, and for Sansa’s character in general. It is completely botched version of the serpentine steps scene from the book.

    In the book, Sansa has just come from the godswood, after meeting Dontos. She loses balance on the stairs and the Hound appears and clasps her wrists to save her from falling down. Sansa is scared of being found out because of where she had just been, not because she is generally afraid of him. She lies about why she had been out of the castle, and he asks if she thinks he’s that drunk to believe that. He sounds almost insulted that she is trying to lie to him. He also tries to tell her once again that her faith in ‘knights’ is naive and displaced – which suggests that he has a good guess what she’s trying to do (she is trying to believe that Dontos is her Florian who will save her). He tries to make it clear that he is not lying to her, and that she doesn’t have to lie to him, he’s on her side. Naturally, because Sandor is Sandor, his manner of speaking is rough and he insults her again, calling her a stupid little bird who believes in childish things they have taught her. Another KG member, Boros Blount, comes along, and the Hound covers for her in front of him and takes her to her room.

    He’s also quite drunk – probably coming back from having his time off (spent drinking and gambling and whoring, the things Varys said he did in his spare time) – so he’s less guarded and says things he wouldn’t say while sober, showing that he’s starting to notice her new, more womanly body, but at the same time it sounds he’s checking himself and trying not to go there (“You look almost like a woman, face, teats, and you’re taller, too… but you’re still a stupid little bird, aren’t you?” and telling her to pay no attention to what he’s talking because he’s really drunk).

    Book!Sansa, on her part, actually is interested in him as a person, isn’t constantly scared, and has normal conversations with him (he’s one of the very few people she can talk openly to, rather than guarding herself with courtesies). For instance in this scene, while he’s escorting her to her room, she asks him why he lets people call him a dog. Sandor replies with one of my favorite lines “I like dogs better than knights” and proceeds to tell her the backstory of his family, i.e. how his grandfather, Tytos Lannister’s kennelmaster, became a landed knight when he and his dogs saved the Lord from a lioness, and that they took three dogs as their sigil in memory of the three dogs that died that day. (The Unsullied may have heard this on the DVD History and Lore extra about the House Clegane.) He goes on to say another one of my favorite lines: “A hound will die for you, but never lie to you. ”

    Asking her to sing him a song one day flows naturally from the conversation that they have about songs and true knights. He mocks the songs, which stand for Sansa’s idealism and romanticism, but when he says he may ask her to sing for him one day, it’s a hint that he may be secretly wishing for the same things he claims to despise in his cynicism and nihilism. She courteously says she will sing for him gladly, and he calls her a bad liar, telling her “A dog can smell a lie” and warns her that everyone at court is a better liar than she is “Look around you, and take a good whiff. They’re all
    liars here . . . and every one better than you.” (The line that the show gave Littlefinger, just like they earlier had Littlefinger tell the story of the Hounds’ burns.)

    Compare this to the deleted scene from the show, which borrows some of the same lines, but completely misses all the points. In the deleted scene, the Hound just appears for no reason, gets into Sansa’s face and randomly acts creepy (and he doesn’t even seem drunk); the line about songs comes out of nowhere; Sansa is just scared of him; and then, what do you know, Tyrion appears to “save” her and tell the Hound off. The entire scene somehow became about show!Tyrion being a white knight.

  31. Satin
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    let’s agree to disagree.

  32. Felt Pelt
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    Singing Last of Giants doesn’t sound so much like a prank but something that got cut. Does Ygritte sing it in the book?

    Giving giants a backstory will set them up as proper wall-destroyers for episode 9, and Mags the Mighty vs. Grenn.

  33. Rygar
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    Ah, you’ve used that insult already. You know what the word means so you at least have access to an online dictionary, but to say with conviction that the mark of a great actor is to play someone totally different than themselves is simply ignorant, else every actor would be considered a great one at some point in their career.

    And yes, I look fucking hot today!

  34. Rygar
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    Satin:
    Annara Snow,

    let’s agree to disagree.

    LOVE This! Lol.

  35. Dante Snow
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    Sounded like she said Dorne to me as well. But she said she read the books. Surely she knows better where Dany is.

  36. Turncloak
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    Looks like Kit Harrington’s Pompeii tanked at the box office. No shocker there. I wonder if studios ever go out and do market research before producing a film. Pompeii’s concept was stupid and had a high probability of failure

  37. Ser Lucas Tyrell
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Reza,

    Is he high? Lol, he looks totally high.

  38. Iron Badass
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    That makes me think of one of A Feast For Crows synopsis that came out in 2002, and it was said Dany would start to know secrets about her father and brother that would culminate at Starfall. Here’s the link:
    http://www.sffworld.com/forums/showthread.php?267-The-Feast-for-Crows-synopsis!!&s=6a9a111a5ce5fd29704479411a391a8d
    How intriguing is that?

  39. Rygar
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Iron Badass,

    Ha. Love how the third poster vomits at the mention of ASoIaF being the most imaginative and ambitious epic since LotR and has since been BANNED.

  40. Arthur
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Sooooo…

    When will WiC give us an update and analyst of season 3 DVD sales???

  41. Bannerless Bro
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Iron Badass,

    I think “the ironmen of the isles attack the Dreadfort” is way more shocking than the rest because that’s what actually going to happen in the show.

  42. Al Swearengen
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Game Of Thrones season three has smashed DVD and Blu-ray records in the UK by becoming the fastest-selling TV series box set of the last decade.

    Released on 17 February 2014, almost 190,000 units of the HBO show’s third season were shifted to the mind-boggling tune of £5.4m in just one week.

    “We’re delighted with the result at HBO,” said Ian Fullerton, Marketing Director of HBO Home Entertainment. “We always knew this would be a big release and it’s great to see it doing so well across every sector of the market.”

  43. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Iron Badass,

    Ha! It’s hilarious that Dany was originally meant to get to Westeros in book 4. Instead, GRRM decided to fuck it all and hold her off in the whirlpool of shit that is Meereen. He’ll never finish in seven books, will he?

  44. Roekest
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Maybe it’s the Sullied in me…but I don’t see why Ygritte is being pumped up so much in promotions. That money would be better spent on Sansa or Arya, hell, even Davos…depending on how far he gets in this upcoming season.

  45. Ros' Merkin
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious: Hey look, the resident narcissist noticed me!

    You spelled Adonis wrong.

  46. Satin
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Roekest,

    Well, Ygritte is popular, Rose Leslie is popular, she agreed to do it, so why should they say no, and of course, Ygritte dies this year. Last chance to see, if you will. Liam, Maisie and Sophie, on the other hand, will stick around quite a while longer.

  47. Morna the Witch
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak

    “The deep flaws of POMPEII are certainly not Harington’s; he does an admirable job looking like he’s in love and like he’s terrified of the giant volcano exploding right next to him. And as I mentioned in my review, his scenes with a fellow gladiator (played by Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje) are my favorite in the movie.” Capone’s review from Aint it Cool News.

    The excerpt from his review is from a very nice in-depth interview with Kit, who also gives a nice juicy detail about a speech Jon will be giving during season 4. It might actually refer to the line we’ve already heard in the previews or to something that happens much later. It also looks like he will be wearing his hair short for his next two films, which I like. He can wear a wig in season 5 if it comes to that.

  48. Veltigar
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Roekest:
    Maybe it’s the Sullied in me…but I don’t see why Ygritte is being pumped up so much in promotions. That money would be better spent on Sansa or Arya, hell, even Davos…depending on how far he gets in this upcoming season.

    Well, Ygritte is a pretty popular character with showbies + she was probably available to do it. Sophie and Maisie might still have school and they could always be working on another project during the time.

    For beautiful, for spacious skies, for casting Mads Mikkelsen as Euron…

  49. Samantha
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    Haha this!

  50. Roekest
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Satin:
    Roekest,

    Well, Ygritte is popular, Rose Leslie is popular, she agreed to do it, so why should they say no, and of course, Ygritte dies this year. Last chance to see, if you will. Liam, Maisie and Sophie, on the other hand, will stick around quite a while longer.

    Bah! She’s only popular because many women live vicariously though her when she puts her hands down Snow’s pants. Not enough to justify representing a multi-million dollar production, IMHO.

  51. Rygar
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Johnny,

    And how exactly is that? Because she isn’t correct on every detail about an enormous volume of characters and places, or visits fan sites where the work is dissected and synoptic to the point that makes reading the books by themselves pointless, that she would have every reason to not care about a show based on an adaptation of said books? An adaption that she is employed by and supports by spending time promoting?

    I dislike her portrayal of the character, but not because I think she doesn’t care. I just find her annoying.

  52. Satin
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Roekest,

    maybe you should take that up with HBO, see what they say. I’m sure they are in dire need of experts on media and female viewers.

  53. Jen@House Stark
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Roekest: Bah! She’s only popular because many women live vicariously though her when she puts her hands down Snow’s pants. Not enough to justify representing a multi-million dollar production, IMHO.

    While I will grant you, hands in Jon Snow pants scenes are wonderful, I for one love Rose Leslie in this role. Loved her in Downton Abbey and could not wait to see her in this. Granted she’s gone after this season and I’m fine with that, it’s true to the books, Jon Snow or not, she’s a wonderful character, my two gold dragons :smile:

  54. Rygar
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Ros’ Merkin: You spelled Adonis wrong.

    Why thank you. Mind if I slip into something more comfortable?

  55. Joy
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Roekest,

    Totally agree with you in every single word.

  56. Morna the Witch
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    Can’t think of anyone better to play Ygritte :) Think of it this way. By next season all you haters will be rid of her, lol.

  57. Ros' Merkin
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Rygar: Why thank you.Mind if I slip into something more comfortable?

    As long as there aren’t any bearskin rugs involved…

  58. Talisa's ghost
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Roekest,

    It’s enough when she’s the only one available and willing to do it.

  59. Rygar
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Ros’ Merkin: As long as there aren’t any bearskin rugs involved…

    Well that is always possible but I can guarantee no Burt Reynolds this time.

  60. Annara Snow
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Rygar: LOVE This! Lol.

    You’ve never heard that expression before?

    It’s a very useful way of apparently saying something while actually saying nothing.

  61. Rygar
    Posted February 24, 2014 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow: You’ve never heard that expression before?

    It’s a very useful way of apparently saying something while actually saying nothing.

    I love the apparent context. It was basically Indiana Jones shooting the sword welding Arab in Raiders. “I ain’t got time for this shit..”

  62. Abyss
    Posted February 25, 2014 at 7:08 am | Permalink
  63. Satin
    Posted February 25, 2014 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    It expresses pretty much exactly what I’m willing to say on this subject. I’ve said before that I don’t do shipping conversations, and I’ve told you specifically, that it’s not necessary to quote half the books to proof your point. If you think the show misinterprets Sansa or her relationship to the Hound or anyone else, good for you. I disagree, but I’m not going to hurl teal deers at you to bolster my opinion. Rygar said it right, I don’t have time for this shit. (by which I mean the pointless quarrelling, not your opinion.)

  64. Strider
    Posted February 25, 2014 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    I like the way she plays Ygritte! I don’t particularly care for the character itself, but I found her to have a good grip of the kissed by fire wildling, Jon Snow’s pants included.

    And she likes House Lannister! Well, we can bond over that, minus the little evil called Joff.

    Aww personal attacks and insults! Feels like political debates. I’d fact check the whole thread but I’ve stopped at Miss Snow’s “isn’t constantly scared of him” and “normal conversations” comment and couldn’t move on.

    One would have to define normal for Sansa and her situation first. I found none of the 7 or 8 personal interactions between Sansa and Sandor from KL as normal. Several times (3 to be exact) the Hound was watching Sansa being beaten by Blount. His words to her were at the most “Give him what he wants and save yourself some pain, girl” or “Enough” when she gets slapped in court with the flat of the blade. Another time was the serpentine scene which you’ve mentioned already. Not normal by any standards. And your interpretation of her “He’s scaring me” in that book scene is different than mine or Sandor’s, otherwise he’d never try to allay her fears and convince her that she can trust him.

    Maybe him corroborating her “bad luck to kill someone on your nameday” IS normal for KL. I wouldn’t know. Or her trying to thank him for saving her from rape?! When he thinks she’s still a masters’ dog and runs away afraid of him? Probably the time when she comes back in her room in the middle of the night and almost shits herself (I’m exaggerating obviously) when she finds Sandor there.

    I’m sure you have your reasons for thinking Sansa sees Sandor Clegane the man himself rather than Joff’s dog but from what Martin wrote for her POV, I strongly disagree. I think she’s not making the distinction. She’s in constant fear and she should be.

    But she does find some part of him fascinating to some degree, at least I think so or she wouldn’t have thought that Ser Dontos should have some of the Hound’s ferocity. Or edited that kiss in.

    Rygar, is playing with Roz’ Merkin! LOL this I like.

  65. Satin
    Posted February 25, 2014 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Strider: Aww personal attacks and insults! Feels like political debates.

    It does. At least Annara Snow hasn’t called me a Neckbeard yet! It’s a bit confusing to be thought a bearded lady for your opinions on fiction. I can be the Apathy Party – don’t care about Shipping, ignore shippers. And on the basis of Sherlock, which we are discussing in the Mark Gatiss thread, my party motto will be “NOT MY DIVISION.”

  66. Strider
    Posted February 25, 2014 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    EDIT to my previous comment:

    It should have been: “When SHE thinks HE’s still a masters’ dog and runs away afraid of him?”

    I have to say, it would have been funny for Sandor to think of Sansa as Joff’s dog, as my typing insinuated earlier LOL Sorry folks, cell typing is horrendous.

    Satin,
    You shouldn’t complain! Miss Snow’s low blow at your effective but courteous ending of hostilities by involving a third party was clever however uncalled for. Very political debate like. I doubt direct name calling is in her arsenal.

    But just so you know, I ship like her. Hard. Which is why is nice to read her passionate comments, even when in disagreement. And I’m a book fan all the way.

    Ha! I bet you and I won’t see eye to eye in many things!!! Looking forward to that Sherlock article comments reading.

    And also I’m just throwing this out there that she’s right IMO, they do whitewash everybody and their mother in the show! But that is D&D ‘s interpretation of it and it is fine with me, I suppose. I see things differently than them.

  67. Al
    Posted February 25, 2014 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Can someone explain why Rose is annoying as Ygritte or why you don’t like her portrayal of her. Seriously I love how Rose plays Ygritte and I can’t think to someone else. To me she totally embodies the character so I’m interested to know the reasons you don’t like her.

    Abyss: thanks for the new video.

  68. Satin
    Posted February 25, 2014 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Strider,

    See, I can totally live with that. Whatever tickles your fancy, it’s fine with me, I just don’t want to debate relationship prospects every single time a specific character name comes up.

    I actually agree that the show is painting at least the more “positive” and some of the negative characters less dark than the books (Tyrion, Cersei, Theon, Sandor, Shae are all examples; some of the rewrites for Catelyn and Sansa fall into this category as well), while the bad characters are more overtly bad (LF is as horrible in the books, but we don’t see it this clearly, etc.). I don’t like calling it “white-washing,” because that is negatively connotated, and I’m irritated at the attempts of some factions of book readers to paint everything the show does as automatically inferior. In some cases, you get more complex characters – Cersei is an example. In other cases, you get slightly different characters, mostly because they are older or written as more realistic – Brienne is a case in point, Yara, Gendry, Pod, Bronn, etc. That isn’t necessarily bad, either, it’s just different from what Martin does. You get away with a lot in books which you can’t do on TV.

    I’m not saying the show is beyond reproach – far from it – but the way these conversations mostly go has nothing to do with criticism, it’s just meant to ascertain the view that the books are superior. I’m pretty sure you can think that and still recognize that the show is astonishingly good, especially for a fantasy show on TV. And I also think I can have discussions with someone who is a passionate shipper, without every single post of them becoming an essay on why specific characters belong together.

  69. Satin
    Posted February 25, 2014 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    Al,

    I totally agree with you, so I can’t explain it. (And I don’t love her because she puts her hands down Jon Snow’s tunic, just for the record. ;) )

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