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HBO releases 18 Character Posters for Game of Thrones Season 4

Today, HBO released 18 new character posters to promote Game of Thrones Season 4! The posters feature a look at the major players of Season 4, as well as the April 6th premiere date and a caption of “Valar Morghulis” — all men must die.

Earlier today we were treated to batches from the Lannister, Stark, and Targaryen crews along with some great teaser videos. The official Game of Thrones twitter has now released 7 additional posters. Check out Ygritte, Margaery, Brienne, Littlefinger, Oberyn, and Tormund as well as the ones we’ve already seen tag-free below.

UPDATE: Two more have been tweeted out by HBO NL, Melisandre and Daario. Added below.

Season 4 Melisandre Character Poster Season 4 Daario Character Poster

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  • The posters feature a look at the major players of Season 4

    lol. Twist the knife, will you?

    Thanks for posting these.

  • OMG! IT’S TORMUND! TORMUND GIANTSBANE! THE TALL TALKER! HUSBAND TO BEARS! THE GIANTSTICK! RUDDY KING OF HALL MEADE! Someone please hold me. Going to go grab all cookies I’ve stolen from the Starks and give them to my baby!

    My life is complete.

  • I think it’s cool that Oberyn appears to have snakeskin trim on his collar. I hope we get to see a feast featuring a giant snake in future seasons–one of the many things I love about Dornish culture.

    Some fear snakes; Martells literally eat them for dinner. :-D

  • Blind Beth,

    It’s a shame that Indy and the Temple of Doom already had the “snake surprise” centerpiece in their feast. That would’ve been an interesting addition to the show if they could be the first to do it (though there’s nothing stopping them anyway).

    I love making the food described in the books to go with watching the show, but so far it’s not been very exciting. I really hope they can do baked crab served in a trencher of its own shell (not a book dish, but one that would probably work well in the setting).

  • Maybe they’re trying to make everyone forget about Stannis until he turns up again at the Wall? Or have they let that cat out of the bag already?

    Liking the hype from HBO. Cool posters, cool videos. Keep’em coming.

  • This pretty much confirms that Stannis is barely in this season. Maybe one or two scenes underway. Braavos. Then The Wall. Lame.

  • Don’t these feel a little lazy and cheap? HBO marketing really doesn’t put much work into Game of Thrones…

  • Kingsley:
    Where is Rickon’s poster? No love for Rickon. What a shame D&D forgot to take Rickon’s picture. Poor actor.

    It wouldn’t make sense to have a poster of a character who, by all likehihood (and going by the book), doesn’t even appear this season.

  • matt,
    It looks like there will be scenes at dragonstone, invented scenes.
    But scenes of Stannis having some fish, that would be better than having a few more scenes in the riverlands with Brienne right?

  • Anyone notice that Joffry now has flower buds and thorns interwoven in his crown? Looks like someone’s whipped lol

  • Annara Snow,

    Plus he was never in the main cast.

    matt, Family, Duty, Hodor,

    Well we know for a fact that he will be in at least four scenes from the trailers and the on the set feature alone. We know he’ll talk with Davos and say his “history book” line, we know we’ll see him at the big burning (likely of the traitors to get the favourable winds), we know he’ll be standing on a deck beside Davos looking grim and we know he’ll meet with Tycho.

    For a fact we know he’ll have a scene in episode one because Carice posted a picture of the script cover for ep. one back in July (or was it June?). I think it’s fair to assume he will also feature in ep . 3 and react to Joff getting killed and hear Mel’s “false kings” speech. Also there were those girls (filming nude scenes of some sort, one was a model and one a porn girl), one of whom said over twitter they had worked with Liam Cunningham. One of those girls, Sarine Sofair, is credited on her CV as appearing in episode six, which I think would imply that Liam would too. One of the girls (Samantha Bentley, a porn girl) at the time posted her GoT outfit. Though she’s since deleted the picture it had a very Essoss look to it. My guess is Davos will come across Salladhor Saan in the mid-season and hijinks will ensue.

    If I had to make an educated guess I would say that prior to their arrival at the Wall in ep. 9
    that Stannis and co. will appear in 3 or 4 eps. Set up stuff near the beginning and Braavos in the mid-season. Less screentime than last year but not insubstantial. Carice herself said that they will have less scenes but that they will be long scenes and “juicy” ones.

  • Jorah and Joffrey – great ones. Maybe new Daario (shirtless) to attract new female viewers and Missandei (in that criss-cross halter dress) to attract new male viewers.

  • WHERE IS MANCE??? Did they cut him or what? I haven’t seen it confirmed that Hinds was coming back this season, haven’t seen him in any of the trailers and now no picture. Did I miss something?

  • Ghost:
    WHERE IS MANCE??? Did they cut him or what? I haven’t seen it confirmed that Hinds was coming back this season, haven’t seen him in any of the trailers and now no picture. Did I miss something?

    He is not a main cast member.

  • Tereeza 777:
    Jorah and Joffrey – great ones. Maybe new Daario(shirtless)to attract new female viewers and Missandei (in that criss-cross halter dress) to attract new male viewers.

    Nope, they’re not main cast members this season. They’ll probably get their posters next season, when they will be.

  • Ghost:
    WHERE IS MANCE??? Did they cut him or what? I haven’t seen it confirmed that Hinds was coming back this season, haven’t seen him in any of the trailers and now no picture. Did I miss something?

    be calm… its ok. mance will be in season 4.

  • Annara Snow,

    Gracias! With no more BB or TD, and with TWD ending on March 30 – GoT will have millions of new viewers anyway – even w/o shirtless Daario and halter-topped Missandei :)

  • Quite a few of these are not new images. Dany’s one, for example, is from her wedding in season 1. Bit lazy, hoped for new images

  • Satin:
    Strider,
    at least they made someone happy. :D

    We, Tormund’s people that is, may be few but we are fierce. We just like to keep to our corner, unlike our leader LOL Something like this comes along though, we go nuts. I’m having it put as wallpaper on every electronic device I posses.

    I hope your House gets posters next time. I feel such a winner today.

    A Man Grown:
    Strider,
    Too bad he’ll probably never say all of that on the show.

    Isn’t it?! HAHA I always wonder if all his aliases put together can match Dany’s number but I was told they fall short. One day I might put them all on a list and prove those Tormund aliases haters wrong! Or not.

    Also: some things sound better on paper anyway and it would be childish of me to complain considering I got a poster today.

  • winteriscoming.net OVERLOAD!!! Great job guys, this is my favorite site – too much to process the past few days, to get ANYTHING done at work!

  • Strider:
    OMG! IT’S TORMUND! TORMUND GIANTSBANE! THE TALL TALKER! HUSBAND TO BEARS! THE GIANTSTICK! RUDDY KING OF HALL MEADE! Someone please hold me. Going to go grab all cookies I’ve stolen from the Starks and give them to my baby!

    My life is complete.

    Give me back my cookies, damn it! :smile: You can have the ginger, look at mah baby Jon Snow the bad ass, yum.

  • I would think that, with them getting their own character posters, Tormund and Brienne will be promoted to main cast this season. Brienne seemed inevitable, but Tormund is surprising (in a good way). And I LOVE that they’re hyping up Oberyn so much. The Unsullied reaction is going to be hilarious.

    Why did the GoT marketing crew completely forget Theon after Season 2? He’s been a main cast member since Season 1 and a MAJOR character in Season 2. Last season it was understandable that he wasn’t really featured in any promotional stuff, but we’ve seen him in all the trailers, why not a character poster?

  • Hmmm, I like them. Still wish they had put more effort in them though. Still really love some of them, like the one of Oberyn Martell. Can’t wait to see him!

  • These posters alone probably cost more than entire episodes of other shows….

    Such an expansive cast and theres still 6 more regulars I hope to see get their own posters!

  • Greg,

    Or maybe you misinterpreted ‘new images’ (aka newly edited/ created) as ‘images from season 4’. Some of them are from season 4, Red Viper, Tyrion etc. But Ygritte, Dany, Jorah etc are definitely from previous seasons. Sorry to burst your bubble, just look around on google and you’ll see yourself. Loads of other ‘coincidences’ ;-)

  • Greg,

    Well some of these images are from older seasons. As Tori Targaryen said. Nothing to get upset about, really. But still lazy marketing. The fact that they provided season 4 images for some characters, I don’t see why they couldn’t just have done it for all of them.

    Also I don’t see how the Hound gets his own poster, while Stannis (a major ‘game’ player) gets none.

  • Am I the only one who thinks it’s hilarious that Lightbringer was the one to combine all these posters into one post, while WiC and OiTF were posting them separately?

  • Dante Snow,

    Well, he didn’t get a poster last year, nor did Theon, though of course neither had much to do last year. I don’t know if they’ll release more posters, maybe they will maybe they won’t. If they do then it would make sense to include Stannis. If they don’t, that’s just as well. The showrunners are working on post-production now not marketing.

    As for why the Hound is shown and not Stannis, that’s because among casual viewers and Unsullied and the like, the Hound is the more popular character.

  • Boojam,

    Those characters aren’t as prominent in the second half of A Storm of Swords and all of A Feast for Crows so I doubt they’ll get as much attention as in the past

  • Whoever thought Tormund was a better candidate for the poster than anybody from the dragonstone team is not a smart person.

  • Oh Damn! Does this mean no Thoros, no Mance rayder and no Walder Frey this season? Or they’re just not poster worthy material?

  • Greg,

    ok danys picture is definitely from season 1 …there cant be so many coincidences such as the same halter strap from her wedding gown the same waves in her hair and even a small gap in the waves of her hair and the shadows under her neck even the few strands of hair on the right side are in the same position as that picture of her wedding in season 1

  • Greenjones,

    Well, I do prefer the Hound to Stannis, however I’m speaking of the book version, because him and Sansa have this ‘Beauty and the Beast’ relationship going on. I’m really curious where this is going and it’s a shame they left it out of the series. I do still like Stannis, but there’s just a lot more characters I prefer over him. Anyway we’ll see if we will get more character posters, though I’m not betting on it.

  • Sansa’s Knight,

    It’s a matter of a interpretation. In theory these are still new pictures. The artist just took pictures from different seasons and made them into “new” promotional pictures for Season 4. But yeah I wish they would have used exclusively pictures from Season 4.

  • Sansa’s Knight,

    Dante Snow,

    Glad you both see the same as I did. Seriously, the guy acted like I insulted his mother lol They used old pictures last season too, hardly a crime, just pointing out lol I actually expected season 3 pictures, but since there are some season 4 pics in the mix for some of them, would have been nice if it was for all of them rather than recycling old images again

  • They are doing something different with Brienne’s “uglifying” makeup, don’t you think? Were they using padding in her jaw before? Her face looks much more natural this time around. Or maybe it’s my imagination.

  • Stannislaw,

    Yeah, because they and not HBO’s marketing department made these posters. They took time from post-production and writing season 5 to make sure that Stannis wasn’t in these posters. Good on you for figuring that one out.

  • Dante Snow:
    Greenjones,

    Well, I do prefer the Hound to Stannis, however I’m speaking of the book version, because him and Sansa have this ‘Beauty and the Beast’ relationship going on. I’m really curious where this is going and it’s a shame they left it out of the series. I do still like Stannis, but there’s just a lot more characters I prefer over him. Anyway we’ll see if we will get more character posters, though I’m not betting on it.

    I’m not sure what you mean by leaving out the relationship between the Hound and Sansa from the series, since they didn’t leave it out. Not portraying it as well and as extensively as in the book isn’t the same as leaving something out.

  • Those are great, but where are the Dragonstone team and Ramsay/Roose/Theon?

    I especially like Jaime’s and Margaery’s.

  • About Stannis, I don’t mind if he’s almost non-existant in the trailers, posters, advertisements, interviews, articles, whatever. But please, just make him justice when he appears at the Wall. People should jump from their sofas when the Baratheon soldiers are charging shouting “STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS! I have been ok with most of the changes so far in the show, some I don’t like so much, but ok, but they can’t mess this one up…

  • Aw, no love for the Dragonstone Crew. Even if the producers hate Stannis, Davos deserved a poster. Where the hell is Theon?

    Both Dany and Jorah’s photos look like they’re from previous seasons; Dany is in her wedding dress and Jorah is the in the armor he wore in seasons 1 and 2. They should have had season 4 photos for everyone.

  • Balon01,

    D&D apologists at their best. Classic.

    You say as if Ygritte and Tormund had more material than Stannis.

    Now that is RIDICULOUS.

  • Annara Snow,

    If the others are really all regulars – and we don’t know if Brienne, Oberyn and Tormund are really regulars, we were just assuming because they got a poster – the Huisman poster has to be fanmade, since we know he’ll be made a regular in S5. So maybe, the Mel one is fanmade, too.

  • Strider: We, Tormund’s people that is, may be few but we are fierce. We just like to keep to our corner, unlike our leader LOL Something like this comes along though, we go nuts. I’m having it put as wallpaper on every electronic device I posses.

    I hope your House gets posters next time. I feel such a winner today.

    Yay! May Tormund look scarily down upon you from many a device.

    Well, I’m sure my “House” will get posters next time. It was pretty foolish of me to hope there would be one now, given the circumstances. And I can’t really complain, these are really pretty, and a lot of my favourite characters are shown.

    ETA: Since we currently have some name calling between “Haters” & “Apologists,” if anyone wants to join the Apathy Party, we are always open for admissions.

  • Stannislaw,

    you want in, you’re in – you only have to be indifferent about something others are passionate about on this blog. Our motto is “Don’t Care.” or “Not my division.” if you want a Sherlock crossover.

  • Satin,

    No. The posters were clearly made to target certain markets, the Melisandre and Daario ones are official. Not to mention that the Daario one isn’t from any screenshot I’ve seen.

  • Stannislaw,

    I’m confused, how is someone who gets angry because his favourite character isn’t on a poster, and calls people “D&D apologists” in anyway apathetic?

  • cosca,

    hmm, interesting. Do you think that means anything for Oberyn’s, Tormund’s and Brienne’s regular vs recurring status? I mean it’s high time for Gwen to be in the opening credits, Kristof would actually make sense, and I can see them putting in Pedro just for giggles but if it’s not really restricted to regulars, we can’t really say whether they are actually in the main cast or not.

  • lannistermartell: Those characters aren’t as prominent in the second half of A Storm of Swords and all of A Feast for Crows so I doubt they’ll get as much attention as in the past

    This is about the show not the books, they should be prominent enough in season 4.
    They showed up more in season 3 than in the book, with invented scenes.
    I expect that will continue.

  • GeekFurious,

    I think they want to keep it at least a bit of a surprise when and how Stannis gets to the Wall. Carice van Houten has already said they are not in quite as much this year, but the scenes they have pack a punch. So it might be prudent to keep Stannis as a bit of a wild card, make people guess if he’ll arrive in time, make a difference, etc.

    And there is of course the fact that they have a million main characters, and they can’t really highlight all of them. And still, it kind of bugs. You try to be reasonable about – well, I do, I guess some others as well – and obviously, there’s something here for people whose favourites haven’t been highlighted before, too – Littlefinger hasn’t been in promo material much, either, and it’s the first poster for Brienne as well. And I don’t know if there is a point in reading too much into this.

    I think the show does well in concentrating on characters we’ve met back in S1 as our major cast. The rest are, as always, debatable, but I can see a good reason for every one of these people being included. I’m still a little sad that others weren’t included – even though there are perfectly understandable reasons why.

    Boojam,

    agreed. I think by now it’s really pointless to believe they will stick to book “screentime.” The trailers already give a sense that we’ll see more Ginger Wildling Action (with added baldness), and I bet there will be a lot more scenes featuring non-POVs, or POVs in scenes that were not or worked differently in the books.

  • Waiting for Stavos now…
    EDIT: Lightbringer should edit Daario and Melisandre into the post.

  • Satin,

    I can’t believe you didn’t recognize Olaf! Shame on you!

    Joking aside, the new Daario will make me enjoy Dany’s story line this season, won’t he? YUM! *shallow*

  • cosca: Satin,

    No. The posters were clearly made to target certain markets, the Melisandre and Daario ones are official. Not to mention that the Daario one isn’t from any screenshot I’ve seen.

    definitely, I mean, it’s HBO Netherlands, and those are the show’s two dutch actors, it only makes sense.

    I like Arya and Cersei’s, because you can really see their character in the pose, also, Littlefinger looks terrifying. And i love that they’re giving the wildings their own perspective this season, good deviation imo

  • Carne:
    Hope we get Stannis, Davos, Melisandre, Varys, Theon, Sam and Shae posters later!

    Yes why don’t have their poster ? I hope it’s not finished. We can also add Roose, Ramsay, Barristan and Asha/Yara, we can even add Daario, Missandei or Grey Worm for the Essos side.

    Apparently Valar Morghulis is the tagline of the season, I hope they finish the characters soon and reveal the official season 4 poster (the one on the DVD/BR and tie-in book cover).

    Tbh, they are really pushing hard on the marketing this year. More than 1 month away and already 2 trailers, one 15-min preview and a bunch of posters and teasers ( which aren’t really good btw and also, after the trailers they are pretty useless). I wonder what they have for the last month (a third trailer and a “Chaos” style promo is almost sure).

  • Stannislaw,

    It is by no means defending D and D to say that they obviously didn’t make these posters. I pointed out, accurately mind you, that at the moment they are writing season 5 and overseeing the editing and special effects and general post-production of season 4. Whether or not in those aspects of the show they’ve misrepresented any particular character is yours to say when the show airs. To criticise them because of the show’s posters which they have nothing to do with though, that is ridiculous even for the most hyperbolic and reactionary elements of the fandom.

  • HARmundGiantsbane,

    And that is AFTER being cropped to half size by a she-bear in the editing department!

    Maester Victor,

    I knew there were more of us on the blog! I couldn’t possibly be the only one appreciating all his Har! around these parts :)

    Jen@House Stark,

    Ha! Sorry about the cookie meanness. I like the Starks too to some degree. I like most Houses actually (though Lannisters are my poison of choice). All have their redeeming qualities and their annoying flaws. I’m just geeking over Tormund because he really is one of my faves. Made some ASoIaF chapters a delight to read over and over again.

  • Satin,

    Apathy Party is going to the dogs! See, I could have said hounds. I’ve seen the love for Mr. Cumberbatch’s Sherlock and now I’d like to see him cast in House Baratheon or Dragonstone. Mwahaha. I bet he’d kill it as Patchface…

  • Annara Snow,

    I would say they practically left it out. I mean with the Hound earlier and so far the “romance” has been kind of one-sided. Even the Hound shows less interest than he does in the books. Yeah it’s still subtly there, but imo it’s much stronger in the book. Seven Hellsl, Sansa even thinks he kissed her. And he’s supposed to be a younger, but actually a good looking guy behind that burned flesh. She’s dreaming of knights in shining armours and in the book that is the Hound. While in the series I just don’t feel it.

  • There’s absolutely no excuse for why Dragonstone crew has been left out when much more peripheral characters like Ygritte and Tormumd highlighted. The same goes for Theon!!

  • Strider,

    lol, why not? Although he might make a nice JonConn. At least he would be able to play his own hair colour for once.

    Apathy Party is still cheerfully apathetic. No worries here. ;)

  • Melisandre’s poster is up so stop your bitching right naaaooo. It was retweeted by winteriscoming.net

  • Turncloak,

    True Detective spoilers: I’m in the middle of episode 6. Everything about Marty seems a bit convenient, as if it could all just be a ruse. His fondness for women is a bit in line with that of the killer (though at this point we don’t know if his killings vary a lot). The way he dodged Rust being the killer in episode 5 was a bit weird too. It’s a random thought, though. Nothing substantial.

    On to finishing episode 6.

  • Greenjones,

    Absolutely disagree with you. This poster were not just made yesterday. They are likely made in January or somewhere around that mark when they have done filming and are doing edits and putting the final touches. D&D obviously will select what goes in or out.

    D&D apologists are cute.

    To say we are the most reactionary element of the fandom is very hyperbolic or you haven’t seen other elements.

  • I like Marg, Brienne, Jaime, and Jon Snooooo the best so far! Powerful images.

    Stannislaw,

    I fuckin’ LOVE Stephen Dillane’s portrayal of Stannis in the show. D&D have written him as actual human with flaws instead of some emotionless justice robot. Thank the gods for that. It’s going to make certain events this season so much more amazing to watch! I also suspect given that there are Daario and Mel posters in the ether than the Stannis and Davos ones will emerge sometime so don’t get your undies in a twist.

    It really seems like most Stan Fans just cannot deal with the idea that other characters are beloved as much or more than he is. It’s like you’re emulating Stannis himself… It’s sort of delicious to watch.

  • queenofthorns,

    Not really. Another massively wrong perception of Stan-stans.

    And you are kidding me? Please don’t tell me you like Show Stannis more than Book Stannis.

  • Satin:
    Strider,
    lol, why not? Although he might make a nice JonConn. At least he would be able to play his own hair colour for once.
    Apathy Party is still cheerfully apathetic. No worries here. ;)

    Of course! You’d like him to be the one who could theoretically unleash the plague on Westeros, and thus effectively beat the Others to the punch in wiping out the living. That might actually work better than my Patchface. There’s no Azor Ahai to cure the grayscale, after all. Well then, I’m beginning to think you actually like the way he’s portraying his Sherlock considering the important part you’ve cast him into (hypothetically).

    PS. Loved the bolded paradox. It’s still going to the dogs.

  • Lord Davos,

    OK.

    But did i say i will change that poster’s opinion? No.

    I am fairly intrigued why does he/she like Book Stannis less than Show Stannis.

    And don’t i have an opinion as well.

  • Stannislaw,

    Read again, I said nothing about liking show Stannis better than book Stannis.

    I only said I loved the portrayal on the show. I actually think he’s very close to the actual reality of Stannis from the books, rather than the justice robot fiction that most Stannis fanatics seem to believe he is.

  • You guys are exhausting. We get 18 (now 20) awesome posters and all we care about is how new the pictures are and who we didn’t get posters of?!

    Can’t wait for Season 4 and these look great. Enjoyed the teasers as well.

  • Strider,

    damn, you discovered my secret. I’m actually a CumberStan! I have “Benedict” tattooed right over my heart.

    Even if the Apathy Party is going to the dogs, I’m too indifferent to get worked up about it.

    queenofthorns,
    OMG, JusticeRobotStannis is awesome. Perfect description of the Mannis.

    I actually like both Stannises, but I sometimes think Book!Stannis fans are kidding themselves a bit how popular Stannis was at this time in the books. His popularity clearly comes from saving the wall, not his lovable personality. Which he doesn’t have. Really, I love him, but he is not a likable guy. I don’t think this is something the show caused at all.
    Of course, I’m usually glued to the screen studying Stephen Dillane’s micro expressions. That actor is the shit. And you can’t convince me that his retelling of the siege of Storm’s End (“Then we ate the dogs. I like dogs. Loyal. But we ate them. Then the cats. Now, I don’t like cats…”) isn’t the funniest line delivery we’ve had so far on the show.

  • Satin,

    I couldn’t agree more. That moment is interesting precisely because the reader wouldn’t have suspected that the character would do something so bold and righteous!

    Stannis is honestly one of my favorite characters which is probably why I dislike Stannis’ fans opinions of him. It’s like they ignore/whitewash everything that I find interesting about him because it might make him less “badass” or whatever… There’s more to characters than how “badass” they are.

    I typically want to eat Stephen Dillane’s face whenever he’s on screen. Holy shit that is some acting.

  • queenofthorns,

    It’s hilarious that people say their least favorite characters are being whitewashed (such as Dany, Tyrion) while they say their favorite characters are being portrayed as evil villains (Jamie pre season 3, Stannis).

  • Satin: Of course, I’m usually glued to the screen studying Stephen Dillane’s micro expressions. That actor is the shit. And you can’t convince me that his retelling of the siege of Storm’s End (“Then we ate the dogs. I like dogs. Loyal. But we ate them. Then the cats. Now, I don’t like cats…”) isn’t the funniest line delivery we’ve had so far on the show.

    I find that one so captivating as well.

    “First we ate the horses. We weren’t riding anyway, and we couldn’t feed them, so, fine. Then we ate the cats. Don’t much like cats, so, fine. But I like dogs – loyal animals, but we ate them too. Then we ate the rats.”

  • queenofthorns,

    You are so right.
    The Stannis moment is my favorite in the books. It is what heroism, courage and honor is all about. Fantasy tropes in shakespeare quality.
    He has gained a lot of fans since then, because he is a great character.
    He makes simply every storyline he is in more important.

  • Just Fair Warning, stay away from these on the official Game Of Thrones HBO Page on Facebook, as there are spoilers everywhere on the thread they put up for them, mostly cause people are jerks.

  • Brendan Fitzpatrick,

    Oh yeah, they post pictures with spoilers. Post them in the comments. And if people in the comments complain because they rather watch the tv series (which I totally respect) they just say ‘Read the books!’

    I rather find it stuck-up how these people look down on fans of the tv series, who would rather get surprised by the show and don’t want the books to spoil them. In any case my brother-in-law is one of them, hence why my wife advised him to only read the first two books so far to avoid possible spoilers.

  • NousWanderer,

    You can’t really compare these to the ‘blurry dragon image’. I’m sure they’ll bring out a picture for Season 4 in general. But the character pictures for Season 3, didn’t blow my mind, though I still liked them. No, you should compare these more to the character pictures they made for season 3 like this one: http://a.tgcdn.net/images/products/additional/large/f4b0_game_of_thrones_season_3_promo_posters_jon.jpg

    A picture for season 4 in general still has to be revealed.

  • Dante Snow,

    Fair point; I guess I compared the two because these images are the most prominent static shots I associate with Season 4, whereas the dragon image sat around in public consciousness for so long that I consider it more iconically representative of Season 3. I had almost completely forgotten about the headshot poster lineup they used last year!

  • Strider,

    hahaha and here I was starting to think I was just about the only one who thinks Tormund is one of the greatest book characters. Glad to know I’m not alone! All I know is they better have a way for him to survive the battle for Castle Black because he is supposed to be north of the wall in the books at this point. I don’t know if I could forgive D&D if they kill off the Mead-king of Ruddy Hall.

  • Hand of the Kingslayer:
    Hand of the Kingslayer,

    Forgot to mention the biggest hint (TD spoilers): Marty killing the two guys in the forest in episode 5 could be him removing witnesses.

    TD spoilers Marty being some mastermind criminal at this point would be a huge cop out. The dude can’t even hide an affair from his wife for one second, yet he’s been hiding all these murders for years? Soap opera stuff

  • The Loon,

    Give us the damned book already! And stop giving Meereen chapters! That battle has been thoroughly spoiled, and I won’t read any of it. Do you know how hard it is to hold back from the Barristan chapter? Fucking hard, that’s how.

    Please give us the book George. You aren’t my bitch- I’m your bitch- but FFS this torture is worse than anything Reek had to go through. Knowing a flimsy date is much better than knowing nothing at all :,(

  • The Loon: ugh…such a tease…damn it George!

    http://shelf-life.ew.com/2014/02/26/winds-of-winter-exclusive/

    Definitely getting that app when the full chapter comes out, that’s what, 4 finished chapters out now? Yesss

    Lord Davos,

    I loved Stannis at that point too, or basically the second half of aSoS. But I feel like he ruins the whole “I’ll defeat the white walkers and save the realm” thing by turning on his self-entitled I am the king everyone should bow to me thing and leaving the wall to take the North. I mean the North has just went through two wars, but nooooo Stannis must have everything, even if it means he can’t get back to the Wall (he barely even got to Winterfell)
    I feel like all the good he does, he undoes straight after. Like taking Davos’ fingers for smuggling… and then in aCoK making him smuggle Melisandre into Storm’s End to you know carry out murder.

    I would 200% love Stan Stans to explain to me how he is this golden justice man because I just don’t see it

  • Excerpt from new chapter of Winds of Winter : TYRION

    Somewhere off in the far distance, a dying man was screaming for his mother. “To horse!” a man was yelling in Ghiscari, in the next camp to the north of the Second Sons. “To horse! To horse!” High and shrill, his voice carried a long way in the morning air, far beyond his own encampment. Tyrion knew just enough Ghiscari to understand the words, but the fear in his voice would have been plain in any tongue. I know how he feels.

  • Dante Snow:
    Annara Snow,

    I would say they practically left it out. I mean with the Hound earlier and so far the “romance” has been kind of one-sided. Even the Hound shows less interest than he does in the books. Yeah it’s still subtly there, but imo it’s much stronger in the book. Seven Hellsl, Sansa even thinks he kissed her. And he’s supposed to be a younger, but actually a good looking guy behind that burned flesh. She’s dreaming of knights in shining armours and in the book that is the Hound. While in the series I just don’t feel it.

    He’s not supposed to be particularly good-looking. The description of his unburnt face doesn’t show him as a conventionally handsome man. And GRRM himself has said that he would be only average-looking if he hadn’t been burnt. It’s just the fans and some of the fan art that tends to make him look handsome with just a few little scars, which annoys me a lot. Though there’s also fanart that goes into another extreme and makes him look like Two-Face, which stretches credibility, since he would hardly survive.

    As for younger, he wouldn’t be considered young in the world of ASAOIF. Only people up to 20 are considered young, over that, they’re apparently in their prime, over 40 they’re older, and 50 is “old”. And Barristan, at 60, is treated as a Metusalem.

    I don’t think Sandor is supposed to be older than early to mid 30s in the show, anyway. Everyone is at least 10 years older than the characters they play. We weren’t supposed to think Ned was 50 or that Cat was in her late 40s, it wouldn’t have made sense (they would have to have waited till they were 30 to get married and have kids, which is absurd in a medieval world). You can’t expect an actor who plays Sandor to be 27, since that’s the age of the actors who play teenagers on the show (Robb, Jon, Dany, Gendry). And I doubt you would prefer a book-age accurate casting of Sansa.

    I agree that they downplayed their relationship and didn’t write it as well as in the books, but I don’t think the problem is that there is no “romance” between them in the first two seasons, since there was really no “romance” between them in the first two books, either. A lot of people got the inkling that there was something there, but a lot of people got the inkling from their scenes in the show, too. The romantic undertones from the first two books only become explicit in ASOS, when they aren’t around each other anymore. But the show so far hasn’t been great with subtext and with showing what the characters think and feel, unless they talk about it, so people generally tend to appear as if they have forgotten about each other when they are apart. There are ways to show that, however – in Sansa’s case, it can be done through dream scenes, for instance; in Sandor’s, well, just let him talk to Arya about Sansa, and have his meltdown at the inn/after the inn. But I think this is the season when they should really do that; I can see why it would have been awkward the last season, when they were showing Sansa forced to marry Tyrion while crushing on Loras, and probably didn’t want to confuse the audience further.

    Where they really dropped the ball regarding the SanSan relationship is that they didn’t show Sandor being vulnerable and unstable, and Sansa showing strength and compassion and comforting him. If they hadn’t changed the scene where he tells her about his scars (for production reasons apparently), this problem would not exist. Also, they didn’t show them talking about true knights and songs either (they tried in the deleted scene, but the writing was atrocious, and the song line came out of nowhere and wouldn’t have made sense to the viewers, so it’s a good thing they deleted it). They only showed him saving her and helping her from time to time, so if they show Sansa fantasizing about him, many viewers wouldn’t find it surprising (many show viewers also seem to ship them, and reviewers were commenting that “he obviously loves her”) but they probably would see it as “Sansa is having a crush on the Hound because he saved her”, when their relationship is much deeper than that in the books.

  • House Mormont:
    I loved Stannis at that point too, or basically the second half of aSoS. But I feel like he ruins the whole “I’ll defeat the white walkers and save the realm” thing by turning on his self-entitled I am the king everyone should bow to me thing and leaving the wall to take the North. I mean the North has just went through two wars, but nooooo Stannis must have everything, even if it means he can’t get back to the Wall (he barely even got to Winterfell)

    It would be kind of difficult for Stannis to defend the Wall against outside invaders with Boltons riding up on his ass from the south. By winning the North, he wins vital allies in the fight against the Others. You say “the North just went through two wars” as if the wars are over and done — they’re not. The Northerners are still fighting to get their homes back from the Ironborn and to overthrow the Boltons. Stannis kicked out the Ironborn in Deepwood Motte and he’s planning to kick out the Boltons in Winterfell. You don’t think that would appeal to the Northerners?

    I mean, I don’t think of Stannis as some superhero justice robot; he’s an asshole with flaws and contradictions like most of the characters. But I don’t think it’s fair either to fault him for waging war when all the other kings and queens and claimants have done the same.

  • kurozukin: But I don’t think it’s fair either to fault him for waging war when all the other kings and queens and claimants have done the same.

    It’s one of the problems, though. His people and his country have suffered, and he is rightfully angry about that – but putting them through more hardship is not the best solution. And (contains spoilers for TWoW)moving against Winterfell in the winter is obviously very ill-advised, as is the way he brushes aside Theon’s warnings about Ramsay. One of Stannis’ greatest flaws, and one of those that will most likely lead to his downfall, if not demise, is his stupid need to one-up Robert – and it’s something he’ll never realize, because he wouldn’t recognize an emotion if it hit him over the head with a Rhllor priestess.

  • jentario:
    Polish,

    True, true. As I said, it was just an in the moment thought. What is the big theory for the killer these days?

    TD Spoilers: No idea! Hell it could be Marty, but i think that’d be too far a twist. Unless it was explained? I can’t tell if the show is going for a big twist or an obvious answer (like someone related to the governor or the reverend). Some stuff in the show has been twisty, others (like Rust with Martys wife causing their break up) have been obvious since the get go

  • Al Swearengen:
    The new Daario is looking rather sexy. In fact he kinda looks like how I pictured Oberyn,

    Al Swearengen,
    I know – right? He’s gorgeous. Sort of what I thought Oberyn would look like too –
    but I’m glad Michiel is playing Daario – he’s gonna be around a lot longer :)

  • House Mormont,

    Stannis is one of my favourite characters but I dont get the Stannis Mannis fanship thing. I like him because he’s interesting, complicated, conflicted and contradictory (many of the best characters are contradictory). It also helps that he’s directly involved in the 2 biggest battles of the series so far

  • Strider: Maybe they’re trying to make everyone forget about Stannis until he turns up again at the Wall? Or have they let that cat out of the bag already?

    Liking the hype from HBO

    You forgot “Father to hosts”

  • Satin: It’s one of the problems, though. His people and his country have suffered, and he is rightfully angry about that – but putting them through more hardship is not the best solution.

    What exactly is the best solution, then? You’re talking as though the Northerners were content to accept the Boltons and Freys, as though the Glovers were sitting around thinking, “Gosh, I really hope nobody comes along to defeat these Ironborn occupying our fortress; we’ve been through so much fighting already.”

    And (contains spoilers for TWoW)moving against Winterfell in the winter is obviously very ill-advised, as is the way he brushes aside Theon’s warnings about Ramsay.

    Oh silly Stannis, trying to march on Winterfell in the winter! He should just wait ten years for the spring thaw, at which point his strength and resources will be completely depleted, assuming that everyone’s not dead from white walkers! It remains to be seen how seriously Stannis should take Theon’s assessment of Ramsay as the most terrifying badass that ever lived; but I’m not sure that the guy who’s been physically and psychologically ruined by Ramsay is necessarily the most objective judge of his battle ability.

  • kurozukin,

    lol. These things are fairly simple. Stannis is a classic tragic hero, i.e. his flaws cause his downfall. Narratives do follow certain rules – yes, I know GRRM bends fantasy conventions in his books, but he’s not breaking the narrative – and when a character is arrogant enough to ignore urgent warnings and put on missions out of pride and resentment, he will pay for it. Of course, this will have twists and turns yet again, because GRRM likes his meandering paths, but from a narrative point of view, Stannis is busily digging his own grave. It’s part of what makes him fascinating, for me, and I guess a few others here.