Interview Roundup: Game of Thrones cast on Season 4
By Lightbringer on in Interview, Press.

The Game of Thrones cast is in high demand, as the Season 4 premiere episode approaches. Here are the latest interviews with the cast discussing their characters and the upcoming season.

  • Zap2It spoke with Isaac Hempstead-Wright, who reveals that Bran already knows about his family’s fate at the Red Wedding. “I think in Season 3 he actually kind of knew, because in his dream sequences he says Catelyn and she’s shaking him like that on the tree, and he sees Robb and Jon. In Season 1 he saw Ned before he died, so I think Bran kind of knows that when he sees someone in his dreams it’s saying they’re [dead].” Issac also discusses the possibility of a Stark reunion, and that he would like to see Bran help his brother Jon take control of the Iron Throne.

  • Entertainment Weekly has released an interview with Peter Dinklage from September while he was filming Season 4 in Croatia. On what we can expect from Tyrion is Season 4, Peter says,

    “Well, to anyone who has read the books, we stick fairly closely to that plotline, and those reversals of fortune really send him down the rabbit hole. What’s interesting about this character is how much he changes [this season]. It’s remarkable. When Dave and Dan and I met for the first time, they talked about this stuff, and I found it to be so interesting as an actor to go on that journey because he really ends up in a different place than he thought he was going to. It’s fueled a bit by anger towards his family, and trying to find his place in the world. You see that some people rely on drunk, funny Tyrion. I think funny and drunk lasts only so long. He sobers up in many ways.”

    Peter also comments on the basis of Tyrion’s relationships being a financial arrangement, having Jaime Lannister back in King’s Landing, and more.

  • Nikolaj Coster-Waldau is featured in the latest issue of Esquire UK. With a new fashion spread and interview, Nikolaj comments on the unpredictable nature of Game of Thrones, and the fun of playing Jaime Lannister. “No one is safe: that’s true and it’s a scary, scary thing. You open the scripts and wonder if you’ll be alive next week. It’s scary as an actor. But it’s also great because you are as curious as the viewers as to what will happen next.” For the full article and some new pictures taken for the feature visit Esquire.Co.UK
  • Pedro Pascal recently stopped by Entertainment Weekly Radio to chat Oberyn Martell and Season 4. You can listen to the entire podcast episode at EW.Com. Pedro discusses the drama that will follow Oberyn’s arrival in King’s Landing, why he decided not to read the ASOIAF books, geeking out while meeting the cast, and Oberyn’s “pornstache.”
  • In an interview with IndieWire Carice Van Houten says that we’ll see a lighter, more human side to Melisande this season:

    “I like to approach the heavier scenes in a light way. Any moment I can feel there is irony, I will take it. In this coming season, Melisandre’s telling a joke. I love that. I really enjoy the more human side of Melisandre.
    You probably won’t agree with me seeing the first thing I do this season, but there will be scenes where you see her in her natural environment. You see her take a bath, talking, having dinner — more normal stuff.”

    Carice also discusses the challenges of playing an evil character, which Game of Thrones character she identifies with the most, the show’s nudity, and much more.

  • Gwendoline Christie spoke with TVLine about Brienne’s lack of armour when we first see her in King’s Landing. “She and Jaime will have been filthy, and she is given some clothes to wear… So we worked on the assumption that she would have had something made for her. Jaime would have allowed that to happen or commissioned that to happen.” Gwendoline expands on the relationship between Jaime and Brienne, “Those two with their relationship, only they know what has gone on. Only those two share the experience. And what I find so attractive about it is it is so unspoken.” She also discusses the scenes she filmed with the Queen of Thorns, Dianna Rigg, and Brienne’s underlying innocence.
  • In an interview the Telegraph Lena Headey reveals that she doesn’t think Cersei’s future is going to be a happy one “I believe at her core she is very frightened and paranoid. She’s a f— gambler. I always feel she’s carrying water in a basket with holes in it.” She had no idea that Game of Thrones would be such a huge hit, and when she is recognized in public she tends to get the same reactions. “I’ll be in a store buying beetroot and they’ll come up and say, ‘You’re such a b—.’ Or they’ll say, ‘Just f— slap that kid for me.’”

78 Comments

  1. Growing Strong
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Hodor!

  2. Beronn Stark
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    STANNIS !

  3. Cryan
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 9:11 am | Permalink
  4. Mullendores monkey
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    Nimble Dick

  5. Lollius Palicanus
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Carice van Houten: One of my favorite scenes is with Stannis’s wife. I also have a scene with Stannis’s daughter.

    This. Is going to be epic.

  6. Khal_ Rhaego
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    “You’ll see Melisandre doing normal stuff like taking a bath”…. SOLD

    I’d drink every bit of that bath water, drink it right up.

  7. Auren
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    Carice: You see her take a bath, talking, having dinner — more normal stuff.”

    Curious… I thought that Melisandre doesn’t have the need to eat or sleep, at least in ADWD

    Edit: I’m not complaining! :P

  8. blackfish
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Auren,

    just for appearances ;)

  9. Boojam
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Hmm… the way I read that headline I thought this was going to be HBO’s complete cast list for season 4, cause we seem to be missing a list of minor characters, but then I am not sure if we ever get that.

  10. Strider
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Auren:
    Carice: You see her take a bath, talking, having dinner — more normal stuff.”

    Curious… I thought that Melisandre doesn’t have the need to eat or sleep, at least in ADWD

    She conceals the part about the non need to eat. Though it seems she still needs to drink! Her throat is parched after one of her visions and asks Davos’ kid for a drink. As for sleep, Mel fears it because of the dreams she’s having and wants to avoid it, hoping one day she won’t need to sleep any longer. Only R’hllor knows why! Lol

  11. Turri
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Lollius Palicanus,
    So we can assume the “there’s only one hell” line will be to Shireen.

  12. Hounded
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Just read this review of the premiere.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/game-of-thrones/10723365/Game-of-Thrones-Season-4-Episode-1-review-the-most-brutal-yet.html

    They say its a promising, solid start (4 stars).

    But look how absurd the comments are! Who the hell are these people!? They seems to think that the production values are getting worse. How!? The budget has obviously increased with each season and the show is so much more stylish and visually impressive than it was in season 1 (remember the mini-tourney?) although I did really like season 1 I think its got better and better. And another commenter says that the only good scenes are the ones with Dany… its just so not the case…

    Sorry for the rant I was just so perplexed I needed to vent to like-minded folks.

  13. House Mormont
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Lollius Palicanus: Carice van Houten: One of my favorite scenes is with Stannis’s wife. I also have a scene with Stannis’s daughter.

    This. Is going to be epic.

      

    so excited to see her and Selyse, such an interesting dynamic

    Auren,

    she hadnt slept for a while, filling herself with fire instead, but she still did occasionally i think

  14. Silver of Wyman
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    Hounded,

    For me season 3 did feel like a little drop in the budget. I’m willing to bet that most of the budget that year went to team Dany. Dracarys, Mhysa, Dany’s camp, Yunkai and Astapor were pretty big, but I’m cool with that. They also gave us a fantastic Great Sept of Baelor and the Wall climb scene as well. This year however the budget seems sky high, and I can’t wait to see eye candy moments like: the Purple Wedding, Siege of Meereen, Battle of Castle Black (is going to be bigger than Blackwater according to David Benioff), Tyrion’s trial, Braavos,…

  15. UnbowdUnbentedUnhodor
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 11:36 am | Permalink
  16. Ashara D
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Hounded,

    Go right ahead–we’re here for you.

    Did they watch the same ep I saw?? IIRC, there were 2 additional map locations; no less than 4 CGI vistas; a 5-minute long scene involving scuffling, flying, roaring, toothy dangerous dragons; 2 exquisitely-made REAL swords; a golden hand that looks mighty real; an entrance involving many mounted Dornish extras; sumptuous costuming; sets that you would feel like royalty staying in on holiday; a kicking sword fight involving 6 people; more horses–and that’s all I remember off the top of my head! AND I saw it on a big screen! There was no drop in production quality. It was big-screen-worthy. Now, if we were to talk about some of the writing and dialog choices there might be an issue… IMHO, the best scene involved Arya and the Hound, adapted fairly faithfully from the books, timelines notwithstanding.
    Feel better? ;)

  17. Ser Davos Seaworth
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Mel takes a bath… Seems like an excuse to get her top off, again. Not that I’m complaining

  18. Tatters
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Ashara D,

    You mentioned the dialogue not being up to par?

  19. Hounded
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Ashara D,

    Haha yeah better. I can’t wait to see it!

    Silver of Wyman,

    Yeah fair enough I respect that. I think that more big things happened in season 3 that would have cost a fair bit like taking the unsullied, the mysha ending, climbing the wall, the new sets etc whereas in season 2 the only properly massive thing was blackwater (and maybe the white walker army ending.)

    But season 4 definitely seems to have a bigger budget and looks to be the best season so far all round.

  20. cosca
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Tatters,

    It’s probably fine, just typical book purism.

  21. Tatters
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    cosca,

    Might be.

  22. Valaquen
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Hounded:
    Just read this review of the premiere.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/game-of-thrones/10723365/Game-of-Thrones-Season-4-Episode-1-review-the-most-brutal-yet.html

    They say its a promising, solid start (4 stars).

    But look how absurd the comments are! Who the hell are these people!? They seems to think that the production values are getting worse. How!? The budget has obviously increased with each season and the show is so much more stylish and visually impressive than it was in season 1 (remember the mini-tourney?) although I did really like season 1 I think its got better and better. And another commenter says that the only good scenes are the ones with Dany… its just so not the case…

    Sorry for the rant I was just so perplexed I needed to vent to like-minded folks.

    The Telegraph is populated by miserable Tories. I only ever read the comments for a laugh. Rest assured, the show’s far from the decline.

  23. siberia82
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    For those of who are fans of Finn Jones/Loras, the actor drops a tiny Season 4 hint about the Knight of Flowers in this short interview ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBFJ3f3w5uM ): “There’s a lot of sass going on, there’s a lot of who can out-sass each other, but we’re both people who are torn by what our families tell us to do, so we kind of have that in common.” I wonder if the other character Finn is referring to is Jaime?

  24. Tyrionisthebest
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Ashara D,

    Yes of course the only type of dialog you like its the one taken straight from the books, dumb comments like this made me hate westeros.org dont ruin this site too please .

  25. loki
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    STANNIS
    STANNIS
    STANNIS

  26. Zeus
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Uhm, Melisandre is not evil. She is doing what she can for what she thinks is the greater good.

  27. queenofthorns
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Anyone else catch this bit of Gwen’s interview?

    ” She goes through lots of physical testing situations, but the moment that she’s in with Cersei is possibly the worst thing that Brienne could imagine.”

    A Brienne / Cersei FACEOFF???

    SOOO excited. *fangasm*

  28. Carne
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    queenofthorns,

    Yeah, the poster over at Westeros who has seen the first three episodes explained what this is about.

    SPOILERS for those who want to know: Cersei believes Brienne has a crush on Jaime and tells her to back off.

  29. Deathdreams
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    queenofthorns,

    I think Brienne is everything Cersei wants to be, except pretty. (talking book Brienne not show Brienne. You don’t have to attack me. I know Gwen is very pretty) For all the complaining that Cersei does. “oh I don’t have a cock!”, “I wish I could use a sword and do the fighting” (paraphrasing). Here is Brienne doing all that stuff, without a cock even. What’s Cersei’s excuse?

    edit:
    Sorry. Just thinking out loud…on the keyboard

  30. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Zeus,

    It was the writer who says that, just to be clear. I saw that part when I read the article yesterday and it surprised me, because Carice has always mentioned the same thing you said about doing what she does for the “greater good.” I’m sure the character is seen as evil by most, even book readers. It wasn’t until her POV chapter in ADWD that I started to understand her more.

  31. Ragman's Harbor
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Off-topic, but is George still doing his cinema representations of GOT? Haven’t heard any updates since Maise went to Santa Fe last month. Wasn’t there supposed to be a premiere with a mysterious surprise?

    PS: Maybe that new sample chapter is that surprise. A ”real” update on TWOW would be a better surprise IMO.

  32. queenofthorns
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    Carne,
    Haha well she might be on to something there…

    Deathdreams: Here is Brienne doing all that stuff, without a cock even. What’s Cersei’s excuse?

    You’re right, I imagine that Cersei might be green with envy, considering the degree of internalized sexism she has. Cersei has a pretty good excuse, though. I mean Brienne is like 6’2″ and (supposed to be) naturally as strong as most men. She won a genetic lottery.

    George made an interesting choice by not having them interact at all. I think it was a good choice for the book – it would have seemed wrong for them to be actively jealous of one another for example. But I’m equally interested to see what D&D can show us here.

    Zeus: She is doing what she can for what she thinks is the greater good.

    Many people who do evil believe they are doing it it for the greater good.

  33. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Zeus,

    Carice said she ISN’T evil, and that’s why she likes playing her.

    All great interviews BTW. I will now listen to the Pedro Pascal Podcast, PPP.

  34. James
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Noticed this linked from the Lena Headey interview: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10693120/Game-of-Thrones-stars-Lena-Headey-and-Jerome-Flynn-not-on-speaking-terms.html

    Given how well the cast seems to get along in general this was surprising… but I guess with such a large cast it is not unlikely there are a few that don’t like one another.

  35. Hounded
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    James,

    well they used to date so I guess its to do with that…

  36. Skipjack
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    I really wouldn’t be surprised if Melisandre turns out to be one of the great heroes in the fight against the Others in the end. Assuming she makes it that far. I think GRRM has taken pains to emphasize that she is one of the few who is really concentrated on the ultimate threat, and her support of Stannis is largely as a means to an end of fulfilling prophecy to save humanity.

    I doubt she would be the only one who comes off as “evil” who is important on the side of survival. I am torn as to whether it would be fun if political antagonists did put aside differences to deal with the Others or if it would be a renunciation of what has come before it. Though we still might be surprised by what the Others are really all about.

    I think Carice is doing a great job with a character who is actually rather different than the version in the book, which is surprising since both versions can be so opaque.

  37. Tyrionisthebest
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    James,

    I dont trust tabloid crap, sorry .

  38. After The Feast
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I just don’t like how because Dan and David have openly said that they don’t like Stannis, they are letting their emotions get in the way of adaptation. They portray him as evil and with no moral compass which isn’t the case. Same goes for Melisandre (of course, when it deals with Rhollor and sacrifice she doesn’t seem to have a moral compass but a lot of religions, real or fake, are like that). In the books Stannis is completely against sacrificing Edric Storm and says that he won’t do it but in the series, he is 100% on board with sacrificing Gendry, a character more loved and known by the fans. Dan and David are turning two grey characters into straight black ones.

  39. Vyrion
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    Silver of Wyman:
    Hounded,

    For me season 3 did feel like a little drop in the budget. I’m willing to bet that most of the budget that year went to team Dany. Dracarys, Mhysa, Dany’s camp, Yunkai and Astapor were pretty big, but I’m cool with that. They also gave us a fantastic Great Sept of Baelor and the Wall climb scene as well.This year however the budget seems sky high, and I can’t wait to see eye candy moments like: the Purple Wedding, Siege of Meereen, Battle of Castle Black (is going to be bigger than Blackwater according to David Benioff), Tyrion’s trial, Braavos,…

    Each season has had a bigger budget than the last according to Dan & David. Even if you felt season 3 was a drop a bit, it actually wasn’t the case.

  40. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Listening to the interview… Pedro Pascal is awesome! It seems they have done Oberyn justice, which is awesome.

  41. Balon01
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    After The Feast,

    I just don’t like how because Dan and David have openly said that they don’t like Stannis

    They never said anything like that. They only said that Renly would be a better king. That’s all.

  42. Skipjack
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    After The Feast,

    I don’t know about this. While the show hasn’t added much to Stannis’ motivations, they haven’t really portrayed him as evil as much as misguided and perhaps weak. Even so, at this point in the books, Stannis is still basically a self-serving hypocrite with admittedly the strongest claim to the throne. I think it took him showing up with his army at the Wall for most people to see any good in him. I think when that happens, and he joins up with Jon Snow, the show will portray him as being on the side of the righteous. However you are right that they have changed him subtly. Maybe it’s me but it feels like foreshadowing that he’s not going to end up the winner- not that I thought for a minute he would be.

  43. Silver of Wyman
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Vyrion,

    I’m not denying that they had a bigger budget. It just felt like Essos scenes took a lot of the budget and the Westeros budget (the stuff that I personally find more interesting) was smaller that year.

  44. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    After The Feast,

    There is so much wrong in your post. D&D never said they disliked Stannis. Weis made one statement when discussing Renly and Stannis about how Stannis wouldn’t make a good king, and it wasn’t even clear if he was talking from Renly’s POV. Even if it was his own opinion, it’s not that crazy. Stannis would bring a foreign religion and force people to forsake their old gods. He would be harsh compared to Renly, which is what Weis was talking about.

    Also, Stannis struggles with the decision to sacrifice Gendry in the show too. That is why he goes to Davos and releases him from his cell. It should also be pointed out that Stannis did not know Gendry like he did Edric. Even so, Stannis was ready to sacrifice Edric in the books, which is why Davos helps him escape.

  45. HodorwithHodor
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    link to the post over at westeros.org??
    thanks

  46. Silver of Wyman
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Balon01,

    Well David Benioff said that Stannis is so ridged that morality gets often/sometimes lost in his decision making. Dan Weiss said that Stannis would be a terrible king most likely. Still that was in season 2 days, and they were a lot more positive about Stannis in the inside S3E8 video. Also before they started writing season 4 GRRM told them all of the major characters story arcs in books 6 and 7 so that might change something or it might even make their dislike of him greater.

  47. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Silver of Wyman,

    You must have missed the Great Sept of Baelor,Riverrun, and larger armies in Westeros. Or how about the Hound-Beric duel? What about the scenes in Westeros made you feel the production values were lesser than previous seasons?

  48. Daniellica
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    After The Feast: I just don’t like how because Dan and David have openly said that they don’t like Stannis, they are letting their emotions get in the way of adaptation. They portray him as evil and with no moral compass which isn’t the case. Same goes for Melisandre (of course, when it deals with Rhollor and sacrifice she doesn’t seem to have a moral compass but a lot of religions, real or fake, are like that). In the books Stannis is completely against sacrificing Edric Storm and says that he won’t do it but in the series, he is 100% on board with sacrificing Gendry, a character more loved and known by the fans. Dan and David are turning two grey characters into straight black ones.

    Okay, I think you’re allowing your love for a particular character completely skew your judgment here, because from what you’ve said we have watched two completely different shows. TV Stannis definitely plays strong on morals, rather like the Starks in a way–this is what is right so this is what must be done no matter what. He comes off as cold and exacting, but so does book Stannis. And he is NOT 100% behind the sacrifice of Gendry, as there is the scene where he visits Davos in the dungeons, and Davos points out that Stannis has come so Davos can talk him out of it because Stannis knows it is wrong.

    I also don’t think Melisandre comes off as evil; fanatical, manipulative, mysterious, powerful, and frightening, sure, but that does not mean evil.

    Perhaps try to listen to what people actually say instead of what you interpret them to mean?

  49. Morna the Witch
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Ito Melissandre. There is a very interesting theory over at the Ice and fire forum that suggest Mel is the daughter of Bloodraven and Shiera Seastar. I can’t link right now, on my phone, but according to the person who draws this conclusion, this will play a huge role in her destiny. A very interesting read.

  50. After The Feast
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Whoa, I guess misremembering things I thought the writers said leads to a lot of negative reactions. My bad, I should’ve verified their statements first. Sorry guys.

  51. After The Feast
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Daniellica,

    I think because I thought that the writers said they didn’t like Stannis, I looked at his character as if that’s the way they really felt. I’ll definitely be watching his arc a little differently now that I have been enlightened by all these comments.

  52. Silver of Wyman
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I already said that the Great Sept of Baelor was one of the great Westeros sets in my previous post. As for Riverrun. I was glad that it made it into the show, but we didn’t see that much of it. The only times we see it on the screen fully are in the intro and as a backdrop during Hoster’s funeral. That against season 2 introducing Harrenhal, Pyke and Dragonstone is not even a competition. Larger armies? There were three scenes of Robb’s army seen moving. One to take Harrenhal, one on the way to Riverrun and one entering the Twins. Plus those Bolton forces at Harrenhal. Of course there were those Red Wedding feast and slaugther scenes. Still Season 2 gave us Blackwater, Renly’s camp, Robb’s camp, Stannis’ fleet, Tywin’s army at Harrenhal and the Lannister forces at King’s Landing. The Hound and Beric duel was great as well, but once again not much compared to all the battles and skirmishes of season 2.

  53. SHK12344
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Morna the Witch:
    Ito Melissandre. There is a very interesting theory over at the Ice and fire forum that suggest Mel is the daughter of Bloodraven and Shiera Seastar. I can’t link right now, on my phone, but according to the person who draws this conclusion, this will play a huge role in her destiny. A very interesting read.

    Crackpot theory

  54. Tatters
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Morna the Witch,

    So Bloodraven makes slaves of his children?

  55. Tyrionisthebest
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    After The Feast:
    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I just don’t like how because Dan and David have openly said that they don’t like Stannis, they are letting their emotions get in the way of adaptation. They portray him as evil and with no moral compass which isn’t the case. Same goes for Melisandre (of course, when it deals with Rhollor and sacrifice she doesn’t seem to have a moral compass but a lot of religions, real or fake, are like that). In the books Stannis is completely against sacrificing Edric Storm and says that he won’t do it but in the series, he is 100% on board with sacrificing Gendry, a character more loved and known by the fans. Dan and David are turning two grey characters into straight black ones.

    Where did they ever said they hate Stannis, Stannis fans are just pulling these stuff out of their ass with no evidence, and why would he care about Gendry considering he barely knew him as opposed to Edric Storm in the books ?

  56. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Morna the Witch,

    From reading her POV chapter, I got the feeling that Mel was a slave as a child. I doubt the daughter of Bloodraven would wind up as a slave in Essos.

  57. Tyrionisthebest
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Also got to love how Stannis fans are ignoring the fact that they made him even more eroic in the Blackwater battle as opposed to the books where he was just sitting in his tent giving orders . Yes they clearly hate him .

  58. Steel_Wind
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Auren:
    Carice: You see her take a bath, talking, having dinner — more normal stuff.”

    Curious… I thought that Melisandre doesn’t have the need to eat or sleep, at least in ADWD

    Edit: I’m not complaining! :P

    She doesn’t. The Undead do not need to eat or sleep.

  59. Satin
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Tyrionisthebest: Where did they ever said they hate Stannis, Stannis fans are just pulling these stuff out of their ass with no evidence,and why would he care about Gendry considering he barely knew him as opposed to Edric Storm in the books ?

    He does hesitate to sacrifice Gendry. It’s really not very difficult to see that he releases Davos because he’s uncomfortable with Mel’s plan – Davos spells it out, for heaven’s sake. (I think the fact that he’s not happy with this even though he doesn’t know Gendry and even though Gendry is just some poor kid is really very important here, so asking “why should he care?” isn’t the right approach. He cares because he knows it’s morally wrong to kill innocents, and that it’s really bad luck to murder your own kin.)

  60. Blind Beth
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    siberia82: I wonder if the other character Finn is referring to is Jaime?

    That would be amazing. I’ve been afraid the whole Jaime/Loras dynamic might get dropped amid all the other dynamics Jaime has with the other Lannisters.

  61. Steel_Wind
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Skipjack: , Stannis is still basically a self-serving hypocrite with admittedly the strongest claim to the throne.
    Quote

    The rightful heir of a Usurper is STILL merely the rightful heir of a Usurper.

    Stannis is the Lord of Storm’s End, not the King of Westeros.

  62. Ashara D
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for rounding up these interviews, Lightbringer. Loved the one with Lena, and Carice is always cool.

    Tatters,
    Tyrionisthebest,
    cosca,

    Sorry I didn’t get back right away. Went back to work for a bit.

    For me, (feel free to have your own opinions, that’s what this is all about) the writers seem to be trying too hard to break the tension. I appreciate the tension and darkness of this story, so it was a little off-putting for me that there seemed to be a chuckle in nearly every scene. The scenes involving Daario in particular were not my faves, but I’m not a Dany fangirl in any case. I was far more impressed with the writing in the scene with Arya and the Hound in the Inn.All featured invented dialog, but the latter seemed to me to be more true to the characters as I see them and the atmosphere of the story. Having said that, I think that perhaps they are trying with the juvenile nature of the Daario scenes to more clearly communicate in the visual medium Dany’s motivations for falling head-over-heels for his boyish charm later on. We’ll see if they are successful without losing the dangerous undertones of the Daario character that cause the speculation concerning his being a Faceless Man. My opinion. Doesn’t have to be yours. If you’ve seen the episode and want to weigh in, go right ahead.

    It seems to me that your rude dismissiveness is far more W.org-like than me expressing my opinion honestly. I am FAR from a book purist, though, having read the books, of course they color my view.

    Gotta go back to work…

  63. Satin
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    Steel_Wind: The rightful heir of a Usurper is STILL merely the rightful heir of a Usurper.

    Stannis is the Lord of Storm’s End, not the King of Westeros.

    In that case Danaerys is the heir of murderous bastards who overran seven kingdoms with their dragons and forcing the rightful monarchs to give up their birthright.

    Robert was the rightful king of Westeros. He won the throne by overthrowing the old king and by being vaguely related to the old dynasty. He has no trueborn sons, so Stannis is his heir, the rightful King of Westeros. That’s why Danaerys knows very well she has to conquer Westeros, and can’t just go there and say: “But I’m the rightful queen.” She has a claim and if she’s lucky, she has enough supporters, but she’s not automatically the Rightful Ruler. (Dragons do bolster her Rightfulness, of course. Much, much better than “my Daddy was the next-to last nutball who sat on that throne.”)

  64. Strider
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Satin: In that case Danaerys is the heir of murderous bastards who overran seven kingdoms with their dragons and forcing the rightful monarchs to give up their birthright.

    You stopped just when it was getting to be fun! Unfair. Before the rightful monarchs who each ruled their own kingdom, I believe someone else had rightful claim to the land and what was on it! You can’t just go half way Satin… If we are to get to the bottom of this we need more! LOL

    The Iron Throne was made by the Targs, true. The Seven Kingdoms were united by them, also true. But a kingdom is really the land and its people. So whoever held them previously has the right to have a rightful claim to the portion he/she used to govern. Frankly, the “rightful claim” sounds like a bunch of crap. It is the right of conquest really, if you ask me. Which in retrospect I realize no-one did!

  65. Mormegil
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Morna the Witch:
    Ito Melissandre. There is a very interesting theory over at the Ice and fire forum that suggest Mel is the daughter of Bloodraven and Shiera Seastar. I can’t link right now, on my phone, but according to the person who draws this conclusion, this will play a huge role in her destiny. A very interesting read.

    You’d have thought if that was the case she would have recognised her Father when she sees Bloodraven in a vision.

  66. Silver of Wyman
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    Tyrionisthebest:
    Also got to love how Stannis fans are ignoring the fact that they made him even more eroic in the Blackwater battle as opposed to the books where he was just sitting in his tent giving orders . Yes they clearly hate him .

    Stannis told Davos that Lightbringer served him no better during the battle than any other sword he had used in the books. So he was actually fighting during the battle in both the books and the show.
    Stannis fans aren’t just some trolls, that nitpick the shows portrayal of the character. Here’s a little comparison:
    Book: Stannis reluctantly decides to sacrifice Edric after he hears that Balon, Robb and Joffrey are dead, and he even threatens to kill Melisandre if the sacrifice doesn’t work Show: Stannis decides to sacrifice Gendry after he hears that Robb has been killed.
    Book: Stannis hesitates before dropping the Robb leech into the fire. Show: Stannis just drops the Robb leech into the fire.
    Book: Stannis decides to go to the Wall because Davos reminded him of duty to protect the realm. Show: Stannis only goes to the wall and pardons Davos because Melisandre told him to.

  67. Satin
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Strider: rankly, the “rightful claim” sounds like a bunch of crap.

    It kind of is, and it kind of isn’t. Aegon and his family had the dragons, which made them the most powerful faction, and since nobody was able to defeat them, Westerosi nobility had to accept them as the new sovereigns. It’s a bit Norman conquest, if you will.

    In Robert’s case, it was a bit more difficult – he was powerful enough to kill the crown prince, and his allies murdered most of the remaining royal family, but without said allies, and without at least a vague connection to the old dynasty, his hold on the throne would have been weak indeed, and so he made use of his Targaryen grandmother and married his richest ally’s daughter. Henry Tudor did something similar after killing Richard III. – not only could he claim relation to the Lancaster family, he married Richard’s niece and Edward IV’s daughter, Elizabeth, thus forging a new family connection to the York family. He basically tried to avoid future conflict by uniting the two “royal” families (didn’t quite work, but, oh well).
    If Robert hadn’t been such a raving nutter about the Targaryens, he could have tried to get hold of the Targaryen kids, get them raised at his court, and marry them to his own children, or his ally’s children. That’s how you usually would have avoided more bloodshed in medieval/early modern times (as said, did not always work).

  68. siberia82
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    Blind Beth,

    If Finn is indeed talking about Jaime (I’m not sure who else it could be), I still have a bad feeling that the showrunners might decide to focus solely on the antagonistic side of their snarky exchanges—Loras is expected to marry Cersei, after all. (Jaime should of course blame Tywin and not Loras for the forced betrothal, but I suspect that Jaime will take out some of his anger on the young man). TV!Loras may never join the KG because he will most likely be the one to carry out whatever roles Willas and Garlan will play in the later novels (as stated by GRRM), so there isn’t much of a reason for Loras and Jaime to form a quasi-mentor/protégé dynamic on the show. I would guess that the writers will further develop Jaime’s friendship with Brienne instead.

  69. Strider
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Satin,

    I disagree about the “it kind of isn’t” especially in the case you are making. Robert rebelled against what at the time was seen as “the rightful ruler”. At that time, mind you. And I do not think he had it harder just because he had no dragons. He had allies as you yourself had mentioned above especially the Starks who have been wronged, the Vale and the Riverlands. All rallied for him. That was not a bad place to start, if you’ve already decided you want Aerys overthrown. Robert did not do bad for himself to be honest.

    The idea is that neither of these Houses had a prior claim to those lands they took for their own. They came, they saw, they conquered (some from the inside).

    Come to think of it the only kingdom who peacefully married into it was Dorne for the Targaryans. Otherwise it would be the six kingdoms and the Unbowed, Unbend, Unbroken with the famous last words “This is Dorne. You are not wanted here. Return at your peril.” And Rhaenys DID have a dragon ;)

  70. Satin
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    Strider,

    I’d still say having dragons vs not having dragons is being the only one with atom bombs against sticks vs being yet another guy with sticks, but be that as it may…. you do realize I wasn’t the one who brought up the “rightful ruler” concept, do you? I mean… I’m not entirely sure we disagree about the basic point, which is, Dany isn’t more rightful than Stannis just because Robert gained the throne through rebellion. She belongs to the old dynasty, Stannis belongs to the new one, the rest depends on their military might and their allies. The Lannisters, now, they really are usurpers, given that they only pretended to be related to the Baratheons.

  71. Strider
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    Satin,

    I don’t disagree with you about absolutely anything, Satin! Other than “it kind of isn’t” by conquest, that is. I actually don’t think there IS “a real rightful claim” to begin with between those Houses. It really comes down to who can win the throne and keep it like you say.

    Which is why I said you should have gone further in history of Westeros and get to the bottom of the whole thing. See who originally owned those lands. Wouldn’t those have a rightful claim? Yes, CotF, I’m looking at you!

    And to address the Stannis vs Dany issue, yes obviously to me it should be the one who can win it. Dany may have dragons but she’s a world away, and Stannis has R’hllor and Mel and he’s there to fight the White Walker threat. I suppose we’ll see who has the last word but somehow I don’t think just dragons will cut it this time for the Targaryans.

  72. Satin
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Strider,

    ahhh, I understand. I actually meant that “rightful ruler” both is and isn’t crap as a concept, because while conquest might help you to get the throne, you usually need dynastic connections to stay there – or a lot of military power (e.g., dragons). Should have been clearer here.

    And I think both Dany and Stannis may have bigger fish to fry than who gets that camping chair next, once the Others come down from the North…

  73. Ser Tahu
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Steel_Wind,
    The line of succession from Aerys II (at the time of Robert’s death) is this:
    Rhaegar (dead) -> Aegon (dead) -> Viserys (exiled and dead) -> Rhaenys (dead). I might have those two the wrong way around, but that doesn’t matter. -> Daenerys (exiled) -> Aemon? (Even if he is later in the line of succession he has doubly foresworn his inheritance, so he doesn’t matter) -through a marriage to a Targaryen woman> Robert (dead) -> Stannis or Joffrey, depending on whose story you believe.

    So if you exclude Daenerys due to her exile, Stannis is the rightful heir.

  74. WildSeed
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Stannis

  75. WildSeed
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I can’t help but agree with everything you’ve stated here. However, with regards
    to the manner Stannis is depicted on the show, up to season 3, defines a dark
    character whom much good is not expected. There is some bias written into
    the script. Still, there are many more episodes and seasons left to revise and/or
    expand their point of view, and I’ll be there to witness it__ no matter what. There’s
    so much more to be excited about, with other characters.

  76. Daniellica
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    After The Feast: Whoa, I guess misremembering things I thought the writers said leads to a lot of negative reactions. My bad, I should’ve verified their statements first. Sorry guys.

    My apologies if my reply was overly bitchy–it was honestly not my intent. Bias is precisely what makes us human, which is why it takes extra work to attempt other perspectives. Not coincidentally, I think this is what fiction is all about.

  77. Morna the Witch
    Posted March 26, 2014 at 11:29 pm | Permalink

    The writer of that theory provides a lot of textual evidence, and he/ she does address many of the counter-arguments addressed here. I don’t remember all of the details, but according to him there are many parallels between the physical descriptions of Mel and both (possible) parents (he goes back to the Dunk and Eggs for this). He claims for instance, that Mel, except for being a lot older than she appears, is also an albino, like Broodraven, as she also has red eyes. She just colours her hair. As far as her not recognising her father, Shiera could have left Westeros when she got pregnant. Mel might never have known him. Maybe the relationship was frowned upon by the royal fam (Mel”s a bastard).

    Bloodraven might know who she is, but she might not know him (like Jon doesn’t know his real father, another sad irony in Martin’s work). He then goes on to make a connection between her eyes, constantly referred to as “Red Stars” and the red stars bleeding in the Azor Ahai prophecy. So when AA is reborn again, the red stars will bleed (Mel will cry tears of blood when this happens). This may have something to do with with the moment of Jon’s resurrection, so it is Mel’s own blood that is the king’s blood needed to pay for life. However, she doesn’t know this, because yet again, she is misinterpreting her own visions/ prophesies.

    I just gave the very broad strokes of this theory, it’s better go read the whole thing. It’s very lengthy, with a lot of textual references.

  78. siberia82
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    Finn Jones was actually talking about Cersei, not Jaime like I had assumed, as this article makes clear: http://www.reellifewithjane.com/2014/04/game-of-thrones-season-4-sex-violence-scheming/


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