New gallery of season 4 photos released
By Ours is the Fury on in Media.

Just 9 days left until the season 4 premiere of Game of Thrones, and there’s a fresh batch of photos from the series for fans to enjoy. The new pics arrive courtesy of Sky Atlantic, and feature old favorites such as Jon Snow and Bronn, and newer ones like Tormund Giantsbane and Shireen, the greyscale-scarred daughter of Stannis Baratheon.

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Ours is the Fury: More new pics are popping up all the time so keep your eyes peeled. Interesting to see Myranda all geared up with a bow and arrow. Quite the change from her scene with Ramsay last year.


201 Comments

  1. Siobhán Mooney
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Shireen! <3

  2. sig79
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Hodor

  3. Walter Harrow
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Im disappointed at the lack of Arya :)

  4. Satin
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Aww, Shireen. And Shae looks very pretty.

  5. Annara Snow
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Entertainment Weekly has a new interview with Kit Harington. http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/03/28/game-of-thrones-season-4-jon-snow/ They’re supposed to have a new interview with someone associated with GoT each day until the season 4 premiere.

  6. Macharius
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    Sorry but I have to say it. Some of the armours on GoT are very illogical. Look at the Kingsguard armour. Those gaps! A blind could put a spear or swordpoint through there.

  7. Hodor
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    I find it quite weird that there isn’t a single picture of Bran featured in these releases of stills yet.

  8. TheReekoning
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    I hope some Ramsey pics turn up soon too.

  9. lexxy
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    Excessive hair product will not sit well. Three goth Jon Snows + two 80′s Tormunds + one castrated Jaime spells disaster.

  10. MrBushido
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Macharius,

    Except he’s not decked in full battle armor there, presumably because he is clearly not fighting. Compare that picture with this: http://www.westeros.org/GoT/Graphics/Gallery/Characters/GameOfThrones_Barristan-Jaime_01.jpg

  11. patchface
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Nice picture of the future queen of Westeros. Didnd’t know she was coming back this season.

  12. Red_Snapper
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Shireen Baratheon, First of Her Name!
    S4 automatically gets 10/10 .

  13. Hi-Fi
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    Shireen! <3

    They're really investing in Myranda. I personally like when they include new characters in the show. But I don't remember even my beloved Ros getting a promotional pic. Which makes me think: Could Myranda be Fake Arya in the future?

  14. StMB
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Shireen Baratheon, the future queen of Westeros. <3

  15. patchface
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi:
    Shireen! <3

    They’re really investing in Myranda. I personally like when they include new characters in the show. But I don’t remember even my beloved Ros getting a promotional pic. Which makes me think: Could Myranda be Fake Arya in the future?

    I suspect she is. I think she would be a good choice for the role since they never introduced Jeyne

  16. Hi-Fi
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Thinking about it, my suggestion makes no sense. Fake Arya is a terrified, defenseless girl. And Myranda is everything but.

  17. Hath4
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    No myranda will not be fake arya. She is a sadist/ accomplice who is involved in ramsays worst atrocities. She will be along for a hunt with ramsay and reek as ramsay hunts down a poor girl for sport . She will most likley die in yaras attack on the dreadfort.

  18. Rygar
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Why is the RV with Shae?

  19. patchface
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Well what if Ramsay is simply playing games with her like he often does with people? She might think that she is his accomplice, but then Ramsay turns the tables on her and turns her into fArya

  20. patchface
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Why is the RV with Shae?

    That’s not Shae, that’s Ellaria Sand. They do look similar.

  21. Rygar
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    Maybe they are having a go and this pisses off Tyrion

  22. Macharius
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    MrBushido:
    Macharius,

    Except he’s not decked in full battle armor there, presumably because he is clearly not fighting. Compare that picture with this: http://www.westeros.org/GoT/Graphics/Gallery/Characters/GameOfThrones_Barristan-Jaime_01.jpg

    Look at any picture of any KG on the net. The armour has large gaps and no mail inbetween to cover those gaps. Also usually special metal plates(forget their names) should cover those weak spots in the armour. This has bugged me for years now, it kind of ruins immersion imo.

    Also Robb Stark’s armour. Some shitty leather with sown-in metal plates? For the son of one of the top ten most powerful men in Westeros and then king in the North? And what’s with the lack of greaves? The Hounds struts around with no protection for his legs. The list is long. Very few have armours that actually offers full protection(Loras Tyrell and the Mountain comes to mind).

  23. Ryan71
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    patchface,

    i always thought in the commercials it was Shae making out with the rv!

  24. Leo
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    That would explain the premiere spoilers why: Shae is sprawled out on the bed for Tyrion, but Tyrion angrily refuses to join her.

  25. Rygar
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Lol. I’m fucking with you.

  26. The Dragon Demands
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    Red_Snapper:
    Shireen Baratheon, First of Her Name!
    S4 automatically gets 10/10 .

    Truth!

    Can anyone make out what’s in her book? Seems to be a tidal wave, possibly the Doom of Valyria.

  27. wargsareawesome
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Hey, I’m a book-reader, but for the life of me, I can’t figure who’s in the seventh picture (in between Tormund and Joffrey). Is it Myranda (Ramsay’s accomplice)? Why the hell would she have a promo pic?

  28. StowoW
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    I’m sorry, but I seem to be the only one who doesn’t know who the girl with the arrows is (and I read all the books, but I can’t figure out which character she is) :/

  29. The Dragon Demands
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Leo: ae is sprawled out on the bed for Tyrion, but Tyrion angrily refuses to join her.

      

    It’s actually impossible to explain in a non-spoilery way.

  30. Annara Snow
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    patchface: I suspect she is.I think she would be a good choice for the role since they never introduced Jeyne

    That’s probably the worst idea ever in the history of ASOAIF/GoT forums.

    They mentioned Jeyne (heck, they even had Sansa mention that Jeyne has only sisters, a line that’s not even in the books, but fits with her ADWD line: “I have no brothers…”), had her father appear and had her appear as an extra, and what does it matter if she was introduced before or not? It’s not like the readers were particularly invested in her before ADWD. (Maybe some even disliked her for making fun of Arya and calling her Arya Horseface.) And it’s not like one needs to be particularly invested in a innocent young teen character beforehand, in order to feel sympathy when the innocent young teen character is raped and abused by a monster she is forced to marry. Or, if you’re so determined that she can’t be Jeyne Poole for some reason (though I have no idea what reason that would be), she can just be a random brown-haired young teen from the North.

    How on Earth could Myranda, Ramsey’s completely non-innocent, sadistic accomplice, who participated in the torture and castration of Theon, and who is too old to impersonate Ned Stark’s younger daughter, possibly replace Jeyne as fake Arya? How does that make any sense? And why would D & D want to do that unless they want to really mess Jon’s and Mance’s story next season, and completely destroy Theon’s story. And since D & D love Theon – Weiss even says Theon is his favorite character – I really don’t think they would want to destroy Theon’s story and Theon’s redemption like that.

    And what’s up with all these “Random character X will take the place of fake Arya, even though it makes zero sense” speculation? There’s really no reason not to do the fake Arya storyline just as it is in the books, why all these theories about it being replaced with much inferior storylines that would never be nearly as satisfying, storytelling-wise, characterization-wise, emotional effect-wise. Yara instead of fArya is a horrible idea. Myranda instead of fArya is an atrocious idea. Talisa/Ros/Hot Pie for all I know as fArya are all absurd ideas.

    All that fake Arya has to be for the story to work is:

    - a very young, helpless, innocent girl, in other words, 1) someone that Theon could actually be moved to save, to the extent that it would give him strength to fight off Ramsey’s brainwashing (i.e. definitely not Ramsey’s accomplices who have tortured him) and 2) someone who could plausibly be even more psychologically broken by Ramsey and more and helpless than the utterly broken and Reekified Theon, despite the fact that she’s been abused by Ramsey for a much shorter period of time (so, definitely not Yara, and probably not Myranda either).

    - someone who is not related to Theon (i.e. not Yara), since Theon’s storyarc was never about learning to value his biological family, and his biggest failures were not about not appreciating his bio-family enough, so his redemption is not going to be about him helping his sister;

    - someone who can plausibly impersonate Arya Stark to a bunch of Northern lords who haven’t seen Arya in a couple of years, if ever – in other words: a Northern teenage girl (who doesn’t look older than 15) with brown hair. Not an adult. Not a 20-something woman. Not Myranda, Yara, Talisa, Ros or whoever else.

    This last condition is of crucial importance. It’s why Ramsey is marrying her (and not killing her). It’s why Jon is compelled to send Mance to save his sister, and why he eventually does something that technically breaks his vows and gives his enemies an excuse to assassinate him. It’s why Mance and his spearwives are in Winterfell. It’s why the Northern clans are ready to march with Stannis. And it’s why this is Theon’s redemption. What was Theon’s gravest crime? Having two innocent boys murdered; he didn’t murder Bran and Rickon, but he did decide to have two other boys murdered, just to cover up his screwup. They were expendable – because they were just miller’s boys, they weren’t important, so they were murdered in the place of the Stark boys. Just like Jeyne is not important, because she’s not a Stark. she’s not a Greyjoy, she is not a daughter or sister of a lord or a king, and all those people wouldn’t be going to such lengths to save her if they knew who she was. But Theon knows that she is not Arya, and still wants to save her, finding some strength and humanity in himself in the end – and this is why it’s a great, redeeming and emotional character moment for him.

    It can’t be that difficult to use a character who fulfills those conditions, is it? It’s not like they have to cast a 7′ woman, or a toddler, or a person androgynous enough that the viewers could be in the dark about their sex… surely casting a brown-haired teenage girl is not such a monumental task that the fandom has to come up with characters who could take her place?

  31. Sèmos
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Fun notice: 6 out of 11 featured characters in this set of pictures will be dead at the end of A Dance with Dragons. (Snow is questionable dead in my opinion but still counts) When i looked at the pictures i though in my mind at every character “he’s/she’s dead” or “alive for now”

  32. The Dragon Demands
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    StowoW:
    I’m sorry, but I seem to be the only one who doesn’t know who the girl with the arrows is (and I read all the books, but I can’t figure out which character she is) :/

    TV-only character, “Myranda” – one of Ramsay Snow’s bedmates, helped him torment Theon. I predict he’ll rape her and flay her alive, just to demonstrate that Ramsay is loyal to no one, not even his own lackeys.

  33. Hounded
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Macharius,

    I think the KG armour is more of a ceremonial thing. They aren’t actually fighting they’re just stood around making sure the king doesn’t trip over. I’m sure they would wear more armour if they were actually going into battle.

  34. Tyrionisthebest
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Macharius,

    Its a tv show who cares, you are starting to sound like GRRM with his obession with helmets .

  35. Annara Snow
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    StowoW:
    I’m sorry, but I seem to be the only one who doesn’t know who the girl with the arrows is (and I read all the books, but I can’t figure out which character she is) :/

    Her character doesn’t exist in the books. They’ve just created some characters to expand Theon’s storyline into a multi-season one, since he isn’t in book 3 while he’s being tortured off-screen.

  36. The Dragon Demands
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    Ryan71: 4 at 8:14 pm | Permalink
    patchface,

    i always thought in the commercials it was Shae making out with the rv!

      

    It was his partner, Ellaria. You’re seriously saying that all olive-skinned dark haired women look the same to you?

  37. Rygar
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    Totally agree. Fake Arya must be Strong Belwas

  38. Satin
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome:
    Hey, I’m a book-reader, but for the life of me, I can’t figure who’s in the seventh picture (in between Tormund and Joffrey). Is it Myranda (Ramsay’s accomplice)? Why the hell would she have a promo pic?

    They pretend that she’s important, but given her choice of besties, I guess she won’t be around that long. I wonder how he found her; are there annual psychopath meetings in Westeros?

  39. The Dragon Demands
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    I agree fully Annara.

  40. Hi-Fi
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    Go have a beer. It’s friday night.

  41. Tyrionisthebest
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    The Dragon Demands: TV-only character, “Myranda” – one of Ramsay Snow’s bedmates, helped him torment Theon.I predict he’ll rape her and flay her alive, just to demonstrate that Ramsay is loyal to no one, not even his own lackeys.

    Nope he wont, people speculated that she is the one who gives Ramsay his scars and yet we know from one of the featturetes that its not true. People should stop making outrageous speculations before the show airs and then complain when then said speculation of his turns out not to be true .

  42. Hounded
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    StowoW,

    She’s not a character from the books – she’s a show-only character called Myranda who appeared last season and seduced Theon at Ramsay’s behest.

  43. patchface
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow: That’s probably the worst idea ever in the history of ASOAIF/GoT forums.

    They mentioned Jeyne (heck, they even had Sansa mention that Jeyne has only sisters, a line that’s not even in the books, but fits with her ADWD line: “I have no brothers…”), had her father appear and had her appear as an extra, and what does it matter if she was introduced before or not? It’s not like the readers were particularly invested in her before ADWD. (Maybe some even disliked her for making fun of Arya and calling her Arya Horseface.) And it’s not like one needs to be particularly invested in a innocent young teen character beforehand, in order to feel sympathy when the innocent young teen character is raped and abused by a monster she is forced to marry. Or, if you’re so determined that she can’t be Jeyne Poole for some reason (though I have no idea what reason that would be), she can just be a random brown-haired young teen from the North.

    How on Earth could Myranda, Ramsey’s completely non-innocent, sadistic accomplice, who participated in the torture and castration of Theon, and who is too old to impersonate Ned Stark’s younger daughter, possibly replace Jeyne as fake Arya? How does that make any sense? And why would D & D want to do that unless they want to really mess Jon’s and Mance’s story next season, and completely destroy Theon’s story. And since D & D love Theon – Weiss even says Theon is his favorite character – I really don’t think they would want to destroy Theon’s story and Theon’s redemption like that.

    And what’s up with all these “Random character X will take the place of fake Arya, even though it makes zero sense” speculation? There’s really no reason not to do the fake Arya storyline just as it is in the books, why all these theories about it being replaced with much inferior storylines that would never be nearly as satisfying, storytelling-wise, characterization-wise, emotional effect-wise. Yara instead of fArya is a horrible idea. Myranda instead of fArya is an atrocious idea. Talisa/Ros/Hot Pie for all I know as fArya are all absurd ideas.

    All that fake Arya has to be for the story to work is:

    - a very young, helpless, innocent girl, in other words, 1) someone thatTheon could actually be moved to save, to the extent that it would give him strength to fight off Ramsey’s brainwashing (i.e. definitely not Ramsey’s accomplices who have tortured him) and 2) someone who could plausibly be even more psychologically broken by Ramsey and more and helpless than the utterly broken and Reekified Theon, despite the fact that she’s been abused by Ramsey for a much shorter period of time (so, definitely not Yara, and probably not Myranda either).

    - someone who is not related to Theon (i.e. not Yara), since Theon’s storyarc was never about learning to value his biological family, and his biggest failures were not about not appreciating his bio-family enough, so his redemption is not going to be about him helping his sister;

    - someone who can plausibly impersonate Arya Stark to a bunch of Northern lords who haven’t seen Arya in a couple of years, if ever – in other words: a Northern teenage girl (who doesn’t look older than 15) with brown hair. Not an adult. Not a 20-something woman. Not Myranda, Yara, Talisa, Ros or whoever else.

    This last condition is of crucial importance. It’s why Ramsey is marrying her (and not killing her). It’s why Jon is compelled to send Mance to save his sister, and why he eventually does something that technically breaks his vows and gives his enemies an excuse to assassinate him. It’s why Mance and his spearwives are in Winterfell. It’s why the Northern clans are ready to march with Stannis. And it’s why this is Theon’s redemption. What was Theon’s gravest crime? Having two innocent boys murdered; he didn’t murder Bran and Rickon, but he did decide to have two other boys murdered, just to cover up his screwup. They were expendable – because they were just miller’s boys, they weren’t important, so they were murdered in the place of the Stark boys. Just like Jeyne is not important, because she’s not a Stark. she’s not a Greyjoy, she is not a daughter or sister of a lord or a king, and all those people wouldn’t be going to such lengths to save her if they knew who she was. But Theon knows that she is not Arya, and still wants to save her, finding some strength and humanity in himself in the end – and this is why it’s a great, redeeming and emotional character moment for him.

    It can’t be that difficult to use a character who fulfills those conditions, is it? It’s not like they have to cast a 7′ woman, or a toddler, or a person androgynous enough that the viewers could be in the dark about their sex… surely casting a brown-haired teenage girl is not such a monumental task that the fandom has to come up with characters who could take her place?

    wtf? you wrote all that because you disagree with her being fArya? Relax, it was only a guess/suggestion.

  44. Annara Snow
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Sèmos:
    Fun notice: 6 out of 11 featured characters in this set of pictures will be dead at the end of A Dance with Dragons. (Snow is questionable dead in my opinion but still counts) When i looked at the pictures i though in my mind at every character “he’s/she’s dead” or “alive for now”

    You may be right, but only if you’re counting Myranda as someone who will probably die by the end of this or next season (probably this season), even though she doesn’t exist in the books. You are wrong if you are counting Sandor, who was never dead, not even in the way Jon is. Though I suppose he is “dead” in the way that Bran, Rickon, Theon and Davos were at one point.

  45. Tyrionisthebest
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    patchface,

    He or she likes to write long ass essays no matter how pointless and irrelevent the subject is .

  46. The Dragon Demands
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    Suffice to say everyone that we’re not entirely sure what will happen to TV-only characters.

    As for Jeyne Poole, others have pointed out that they at least had an extra play her in the pilot and tried to work her into dialogue…..they really need to start mentioning her though.

    I will say that I’ve never hated Littlefinger more than when we found out what happened to Jeyne. The sheer….harming other people as if they were flies. Jeyne was nothing to him. This wasn’t revenge on the Starks and Tullys. Yet he casually had her sexually enslaved in one of his brothels for two years, giving it as little concern as swatting a fly.

  47. patchface
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    The Dragon Demands:
    Suffice to say everyone that we’re not entirely sure what will happen to TV-only characters.

    As for Jeyne Poole, others have pointed out that they at least had an extra play her in the pilot and tried to work her into dialogue…..they really need to start mentioning her though.

    I will say that I’ve never hated Littlefinger more than when we found out what happened to Jeyne.The sheer….harming other people as if they were flies. Jeyne was nothing to him.This wasn’t revenge on the Starks and Tullys.Yet he casually had her sexually enslaved in one of his brothels for two years, giving it as little concern as swatting a fly.

    I agree, that’s what made me hate Littlefinger too. He’s disgusting.

  48. The Dragon Demands
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Tyrionisthebest:
    patchface,

    He or she likes to write long ass essays no matter how pointless and irrelevent the subject is .

    I thought it was an entirely satisfactory explanation of the problem.

  49. Rygar
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi,

    Seconded. Hiccup.

  50. Annara Snow
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    patchface: wtf? you wrote all that because you disagree with her being fArya?Relax, it was only a guess/suggestion.

    Actually, I wrote that on Westeros when someone said they hoped Yara will be fake Arya, but it’s about every absurd suggestion I’ve read, about Talisa, Ros, Myranda, Yara and I don’t know who else taking the place of fake Arya so now I can just copy paste most of it whenever I see another absurd suggestion of that kind.

    I guess there are lots of people who believe that casting a brown haired teenage girl is really so difficult, that they have to mess up Jon’s and Mance’s arc and destroy the entire Theon redemption arc to avoid having to cast another brown-haired teen girl… Or something. How lucky that Bronn is taking the place of Ilyn Payne, or I bet someone would’ve already suggested him for fake Arya. Let’s see who else could be fake Arya:
    Olyvar?
    Hot Pie?
    Locke?
    Dontos?
    Rorge?

  51. Annara Snow
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi:
    Annara Snow,

    Go have a beer. It’s friday night.

    Nope, I hate beer. If I’m going to drink, I’m drinking gin or rum or wine.

  52. patchface
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow: Actually, I wrote that on Westeros when someone said they hoped Yara will be fake Arya, but it’s about every absurd suggestion I’ve read, about Talisa, Ros, Myranda, Yaraand I don’t know who else taking the place of fake Arya so now I can just copy paste most of it whenever I see another absurd suggestion of that kind.

    I guess there are lots of people who believe that casting a brown haired teenage girl is really so difficult, that they have to mess up Jon’s and Mance’s arc and destroy the entire Theon redemption arc to avoid having to cast another brown-haired teen girl… Or something. How lucky that Bronn is taking the place of Ilyn Payne, or I bet someone would’ve already suggested him for fake Arya. Let’s see who else could be fake Arya:
    Olyvar?
    Hot Pie?
    Locke?
    Dontos?
    Rorge?

    You really have some anger management issues, don’t you? Someone mentioned that she might be a possibility for the role, and I said, since they haven’t introduced Jeyne, sure why not. And then you come and type a long a$$ message (copy and paste rather which is even more stupid), and you even make sarcastic comments about Bronn or whoever being fArya. BTW I would much rather see Jeyne than a random character play fArya, and I don’t like the idea of Bronn fighting Jaime instead of Ilyn Payne because it doesn’t make any sense. But hey whatever, if you enjoy being a jerk so much, be my guest.

  53. KG
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Here – this might cheer everyone up for the weekend!

    GoT

  54. Galen Firestone
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    That… that is not the image of Myranda that I had expected. In fact, I found myself wondering who the heck the archer lady was for a little while. It’d be like if Ros suddenly started wearing armor, it was such a shock to my system to see someone who’s SOLE contribution to this point had been nudity (if TERRIFYING nudity) armed and dressed like she’s ready to wreck some people. When I heard Myranda was making a return, I expected more fanservice… which as a stereotypical and extremely lonely male I don’t think I would have minded; Charlotte Hope is quite lovely. But this is quite a surprise, and I’m very interested in seeing where this goes.

  55. UnbowdUnbentedUnhodor
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Thats not shae…

  56. MX
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    Perhaps slightly verbose, but excellent rebuttal. Completely agree with you.

    Also, how in the world could people confuse Shae and Ellaria? They are not at all alike, neither their eyes, nor their noses — but than again, I get it, since all straight-haired people look similar to me too (sarcasm).

  57. Macharius
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Hounded:
    Macharius,

    I think the KG armouris more of a ceremonial thing. They aren’t actually fighting they’re just stood around making sure the king doesn’t trip over. I’m sure they would wear more armour if they were actually going into battle.

    Mandon Moore wears that very same armour at the Blackwater.

    Tyrionisthebest:
    Macharius,

    Its a tv show who cares, you are starting to sound like GRRM with his obession with helmets .

    Still poor attention to detail.

  58. Hath4
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Galen Firestone,

    The person she is ready to wreck in that scene is a poor innocent girl. she is pretty psychotic. you half to be if you find ramsays twisted hunting fun.

  59. King Stannis
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    Macharius:
    Sorry but I have to say it. Some of the armours on GoT are very illogical. Look at the Kingsguard armour. Those gaps! A blind could put a spear or swordpoint through there.

    Seriously!?!? Well is a good thing he’s a good fighter do ya think? You know, because he wouldn’t want to be stab in the face also.
    Feel free to design your own costume

  60. MX
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    *then

    pesky little homophone.

  61. King Stannis
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    Macharius,

    Go buy them or forge them a fucking better armor. Complainers

  62. We do not Hodor
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    I can’t believe there are no pictures of Daenerys. It is like they don’t even know she exists.

  63. Sèmos
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow,
    Ah i see now after some researching i suppose you can’t say he is dead but an unconfirmed death like Jon. Reasoning that both Jon and now sanders deaths have never been confirmed.
    For jon his story end by him losing consciousness and then nothing more is said. There is nothing saying he died or survived. The same goes for Sandor when Briene described a novice gravedigger at monastery island in his traits.That is to weak of a reason to say he is not dead as you said. So reevaluating this and to make it clearer it should be like this: 4 confirmed deaths and 2 dead or alive status(Jon and Sandor) and take away the probability of death on miranda since there is no reason for that.

  64. Ser Tahu
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Perhaps Theon will be fake Arya… :P

  65. Myra
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    Are you honestly arguing about beer. Damn it. Arggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggjsjejfjfjjdkdkfkvkfkjkfjgkfkjsjjcjjfjcjdkfijd

  66. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    We do not Hodor:
    I can’t believe there are no pictures of Daenerys. It is like they don’t even know she exists.

    I see what you did there.
    Yeah, D&D must hate her as much as they hate Stannis. Talentless hacks!!!!

  67. Valyrian eyes
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Jeez acusing someone of being racist just because they mistook one actress for another in trailers and tv spots way to go humanity

  68. Sandor Claws
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    A. What made JP so heartbreaking is we knew who she was through Sansa… more naive, weaker, & more innocent than Sansa. Nobody cares about some chick we just met getting tortured. Exhibit A: Shae.

    B. No one claimed Fake Arya can’t be JP, but the odds aren’t great since her character was barely a footnote in the show.

    C. Myranda is a servant trained by Ramsey. Odd to show a clip of them as a fun loving couple since Ramsey’s BFF was Reek the first of his name. She didn’t cut Theon’s dick off. She made it hard. I doubt she had a choice.

    D. Myranda looks 16 in that pic which would be the same age as show Arya by the time the story airs.

    E. Myranda as Fake Arya wouldn’t affect Jon, Mance, or Theon. If Myranda is an accomplice, she will keep up the act and fake cry but more likely will get her ass beat to the point of begging for Theon’s mercy. Exhibit A: Reek II. Even hard killers have mental breakdowns and cry. Exhibit A: Sandor. Exhibit B: Theon.

    F. Of course, it’s speculation.

    G. The show has a history of inferior characters and storylines. Odds aren’t great. Exhibit A: Talisa

    H. If Ramsey promises Myranda she will be Queen of the North and then proceeds to brutally torture her because he’s sadistic or because daddy’s home and not happy, it will break her. This could be accomplished in less time and possibly more effectively than introducing a new character or referencing the footnote in season one. This is not preferred but somewhat expected, and it doesn’t even register on the Dramatic Scale of Fans of Dramatic Fantasy.

    Caution: I saved this to my desktop.

  69. Patty
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    7th pic down, the chick with the arrows? Is she that Dorne Sand chicka? Can’t think of her name right now. Who else could it be? Anyone?

  70. SHK12344
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu:
    Perhaps Theon will be fake Arya… :P

    I buy that before I buy Asha/Yara as you know who…….

  71. iggy1eco
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Shireen seems like another child that took a substancial jump in growth.

  72. Broken Wolf
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    To Hell with Stannis Baratheon and his mentally unstable wife. Shireen Baratheon is the future Queen of the Stormlands. Daenerys Targaryen is the future High Queen of all Westeros.

  73. tysnow
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    Yes! a new pic of Myranda, can never have enough of her. That photo curiously makes her look like an older Maisie/Arya, I wonder, hmmm…

  74. Tori Targaryen
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

    Broken Wolf,

    I think it’s safer to assume nothing when it comes to GRRM. If you start believing your own ‘facts’, you’re just setting yourself up for future disappointment. Bear in mind ‘This war of Five Kings means nothing’ :-)

  75. MrBushido
    Posted March 28, 2014 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Sandor Claws,

    She does not look 16…

  76. Ser Tahu
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    MrBushido:
    Sandor Claws,

    She does not look 16…

    This^. 26, maybe, but not 16.

  77. chives
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    Macharius: Mandon Moore wears that very same armour at the Blackwater.

    Still poor attention to detail.

    Ermmm… No. I know this is a fantasy show, based on fantasy books, but you really should know what you’re talking about before bashing people for being ~unrealistic~. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.

    KG wearing full heavy plate (almost) every waking moment realistic? Nope.

  78. Tyrionisthebest
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    Valyrian eyes:
    Jeez acusing someone of being racist just because they mistook one actress for another in trailers and tv spots way to go humanity

    You dont exactly have to be Einstein to see they dont look alike, their photos are even close together in this article so you either have vision problems or something else that i wont say here because i dont want to throw insults .

  79. Ser Pounce
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    There is a lack of Bran in these photos. D&D clearly hate Bran and they totally assassinated the Reeds characters. Now I must take time off my rant to feel special about myself because I read this fantasy novel which has more meaning to life than the bible.

  80. Kris
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:40 am | Permalink

    Is that a semi-smile on Sandor’s face? He actually looks kind of happy…maybe even proud? This season is going to kill me. And possibly kill him. Please someone say it isn’t so!

  81. ReekReek
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    Everyone’s speculating her role, but I think Myranda is a stand-in for Ramsay’s hounds, done for practical reasons and because as a rule, dogs on TV are sympathetic, people not so much by comparison.

  82. Sandor Claws
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:48 am | Permalink

    MrBushido, Ser Tahu,

    How old does Shae look in that pic? Not the one with Oberyn. The other one.

  83. Greenjones
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    ReekReek,

    But here’s the hounds right here… But yes, she is one of “his bitches’ just like these dogs pictured here.

  84. Dogs
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:51 am | Permalink

    You know, Shireen kind of looks like Arya…

  85. Ser Pounce
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    I am so done with this show, how could they get Jon’s eye color wrong. In the books his eyes are described to be the color of Canadian black foxes with a drop of mocha. I don’t even care anymore, D&D clearly don’t know anything about the color spectrum like I do because I read all of ASOIAF. GURM is the best.

  86. Arthur
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    Macharius,

    Well there’s ceremonial armor and battlefield armor…

    I am sure the kings guard wear their ceremonial armor around KL but if they went to battle their would be chain mail links and more plate in those gaps…

    Reminds me of how I wish Dany would wear some kind of sexy ceremonial armor like that Inca Priestess and the pictures of her family female dragon riders from the past… =]

  87. Ser Pounce
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:59 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I always imagined the Kings Guard Armor to have assless chaps so they could take shits without taking the armor off. I mean that way they can just leave the armor on in case they needed to rush to save the king.

  88. Arthur
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:06 am | Permalink

    Ser Pounce,

    Interesting take!

  89. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 2:08 am | Permalink

    Oh no! I can’t believe they released no Dany photos! They’re clearly white washing Jon Snow and are only advertising him!
    Hi-Fi,

    God damnit! Not this again!

    She will NOT be fake Arya. She just won’t. Do you honestly think Theon will save her from Ramsay after she took part in his castration? What would he care about that sadistic bitch? And it’s stupid in general since Arya will be at most 15 in season 5′s show canon (and probably less) while Myranda looks well into her 20s. It’s one thing to trick the Northerners, but this would make them look fucking retarded.

  90. Lord Stannis's Soul
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 2:09 am | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    Thank you, this is gold. I’ve been sick to my stomach of fake Arya theories over the years. Especially the most logical thing for D&D to do if they need to have a fake Arya is to (re)introduce Jeyne Poole. I mean, if a major character like Daario suddenly changes completely and the audience doesn’t get bothered by the continuity, then this is just small potatoes.

  91. Hand of the Kingslayer
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 2:33 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I second Dany getting armor clothes (kind of like Cersei) but I still have nightmares from that Inca armor you posted here.
    Here, this is better: http://asoiaf-headcanons.tumblr.com/image/54322122001

    Still a bit too provocative to make sense as armor, though

  92. Greenjones
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 2:35 am | Permalink
  93. Arthur
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 2:53 am | Permalink

    Hand of the Kingslayer,

    Wow…

    That picture of Dany in “ceremonial war armor” is beautiful…

    I’d be very happy with anything close to that…

    Maybe it’s the AD&D geek boy in me coming out but if you’re going to do it, do it… Know what I mean? No halfassing shit…

    If Dany is to become the dragon riding queen of legendary beauty then show it, that’s my take anyway…

    I’m not trying to be sexest or anything just that pic you posted, now that’s how I picture Dany looking when she flys Drogon into battle in Westeros…

    Those elegant gowns need to come off when she becomes the legendary Targaryen dragon rider we all know she will be.

  94. Sir Dosser
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 3:38 am | Permalink

    The fact that Shireen was even featuerd in the TV show, when so many characters have been left out …
    And now she is in the promo material…

    Makes me wonder since D&D now the whole story does this mean she´s got a bigger part to play in this story and in the end game?

  95. Mariya Martell
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 3:39 am | Permalink

    Arthur:
    Hand of the Kingslayer,

    Wow…

    That picture of Dany in “ceremonial war armor” is beautiful…

    I’d be very happy with anything close to that…

    Maybe it’s the AD&D geek boy in me coming out but if you’re going to do it, do it… Know what I mean?No halfassing shit…

    If Dany is to become the dragon riding queen of legendary beauty then show it, that’s my take anyway…

    I’m not trying to be sexest or anything just that pic you posted, now that’s how I picture Dany looking when she flys Drogon into battle in Westeros…

    Those elegant gowns need to come off when she becomes the legendary Targaryen dragon rider we all know she will be.

    One arrow. It will be all it takes. Shortest invasion ever.

  96. Sister Wrister
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 3:39 am | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Annara Snow,

    Totally agree. Fake Arya must be Strong Belwas


    Throwin rocks tonight Ry! best in awhile

    Annara Snow,

    Seven hells what a smackdown! This must be logged into the White Book. Copy, paste… NOICE!

    BTW Myranda’s hot. And she’s got arrows! (ARROW) Wait, Arya’s pretty good with a bow! This must be fKatniss of house Mockingbird! Definitely episode 7. But I think Ramsay will push her out the moondoor before then. He still needs to burninate the countryside he IS the blood of the dragon!

    8 DAYS! Geeking out pretty hard

  97. Sister Wrister
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 3:48 am | Permalink

    Sir Dosser,

    Perhaps she’s in the show to humanize the machine that is Stannis, or perhaps it’s all about the greyscale

  98. King DBC
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 4:17 am | Permalink

    Last few episode names have leaked.
    Ep 8- The Mountain and the Viper
    Ep 9- The Watchers On the Wall
    Ep 10- The Children

    http://i.imgur.com/MPS4lQJ.png

  99. Ser Davos Seaworth
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:00 am | Permalink

    Can D&D explain why Tormund has two pics (I’d be cool with one for him) and why does MYRANDA have one (who is she?) but absolutely none for Davos and Stannis (even Mel)

  100. Ser Davos Seaworth
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:02 am | Permalink

    King DBC,

    Really… 8 and 9 I get, but why is 10 called ‘the children’? Is it like s3 with ‘mhysa’ (mother)

  101. Ser Davos Seaworth
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:04 am | Permalink

    Dogs,

    fArya?

  102. SM4e
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:22 am | Permalink

    Ser Davos Seaworth,

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/10168049_629339140449175_1037440820_n.jpg

    Stannis has also got one. Wic.net just didn’t list it for some reason (as well as a Daenerys/Missandei shot).

  103. Sir Dosser
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:34 am | Permalink

    Dany in battle armor is fine with me… she cant ride a dragon in a dress, one arrow would end the invasion.

  104. Macharius
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:36 am | Permalink

    Ser Davos Seaworth,

    The Children of the Forest maybe?

  105. Macharius
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:44 am | Permalink

    chives: Ermmm… No. I know this is a fantasy show, based on fantasy books, but you really should know what you’re talking about before bashing people for being ~unrealistic~. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.

    KG wearing full heavy plate (almost) every waking moment realistic? Nope.

    But they are not even close to wearing full plate. This is full plate: https://www.google.se/search?q=full+plate+armour&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=PpU2U-2kJ5TZ4QSF2IGADg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=955#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=tRG2NXXAnwXo4M%253A%3BmdfY5inBggzr_M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fsteelandstone.wdfiles.com%252Flocal–files%252Fwarfare%252Ffullplate.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fsteelandstone.wikidot.com%252Fwarfare%3B640%3B441

    Also, why would it be unrealistic? They are the Kingsguard. When they are around the king they are obviously armoured. It’s not like wellmade full plate armour is hard to move around in. It has been shown that it’s possible to do a somersault in such a suit.

  106. UnbowedUnbentUnhodor
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:52 am | Permalink

    King DBC:
    Last few episode names have leaked.
    Ep 8- The Mountain and the Viper
    Ep 9- The Watchers On the Wall
    Ep 10- The Children

    http://i.imgur.com/MPS4lQJ.png

    too many titles that start with ‘The’ in my opinion
    The Children could refer to danys dragons too?

  107. Macharius
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:54 am | Permalink

    Annara Snow: Actually, I wrote that on Westeros when someone said they hoped Yara will be fake Arya, but it’s about every absurd suggestion I’ve read, about Talisa, Ros, Myranda, Yaraand I don’t know who else taking the place of fake Arya so now I can just copy paste most of it whenever I see another absurd suggestion of that kind.

    I guess there are lots of people who believe that casting a brown haired teenage girl is really so difficult, that they have to mess up Jon’s and Mance’s arc and destroy the entire Theon redemption arc to avoid having to cast another brown-haired teen girl… Or something. How lucky that Bronn is taking the place of Ilyn Payne, or I bet someone would’ve already suggested him for fake Arya. Let’s see who else could be fake Arya:
    Olyvar?
    Hot Pie?
    Locke?
    Dontos?
    Rorge?

    It cannot be Rorge. Him and Biter are after all the ones who will end up as king and hand of the king in the end.

  108. Greenjones
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:57 am | Permalink

    SM4e,

    The Stannis shot and many others come from a site that gets these sorts of leaked production images. I think that’s where we got the RobbWind image last year before the episode aired. Wicnet didn’t release them because HBO could potentially ask them to remove them. The ones from SkyAtlantic on the other hand are fair game.

  109. Annara Snow
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 6:03 am | Permalink

    Sandor Claws:
    A. What made JP so heartbreaking is we knew who she was through Sansa… more naive, weaker, & more innocent than Sansa. Nobody cares about some chick we just met getting tortured. Exhibit A: Shae.

    I have no idea what Shae has to do with this. Anyway…
    “Nobody cares” about an innocent teen girl we just met getting raped and tortured, unless we’ve seen her socialize with one of our main characters? Oh, the humanity…
    Maybe you should only speak for yourself.
    But I guess the audiences will care much more about a sadistic bitch who helped Ramsey castrate Theon and torture and kill innocent women. Her plight would be much more likely to break people’s hearts, rather than make them think that she had it coming. It makes the kind of sense that’s not.

    C. Myranda is a servant trained by Ramsey. Odd to show a clip of them as a fun loving couple since Ramsey’s BFF was Reek the first of his name. She didn’t cut Theon’s dick off. She made it hard. I doubt she had a choice.

    Funny how nobody said the same about Damon Dance-With-Me or Sour Alyn or whatshisname in the book. Maybe GRRM should have written a storyline where Theon tries to “save” one of them, once they get on Ramsey’s bad side? Wouldn’t that have been a great, very convincing storyline…

    D. Myranda looks 16 in that pic which would be the same age as show Arya by the time the story airs.

    No, she doesn’t.


    G. The show has a history of inferior characters and storylines. Odds aren’t great. Exhibit A: Talisa


    This wouldn’t just be an inferior storyline, it would be an idiotic and absurd storyline. “Robb meets a hot nurse, they fall in love and he decides to marry her and break his promise to Walder Frey” is more believable than “Theon finally snaps out of his Stockholm Syndrome and finds courage and determination motivated by a desire to save Myranda, Ramsey’s sadistic accomplice who participated in Theon’s castration and in the torture and murder of innocent woman, but who has been abused by Ramsey only since she married him while posing as Arya Stark, because the Northern lords are morons and can’t tell a difference between a 14-year old and a 24-year old”.

  110. SM4e
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 6:07 am | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Oh, I didn’t know that, but I realized that the Stannis shot was quite a bot lower in quality than those posted here.^^

  111. Greenjones
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 6:16 am | Permalink

    Annara Snow,

    The weapons feature showed Ramsay shirtless and clean-shaven fighting Ironborn in the dungeons of the Dreadfort. I assume this takes place after him and Myranda’s romp and that the blood on Ramsay’s chest is hers. My guess is that Yara(sha) or someone killed her already, probably even mid-coitus. She won’t be Fake Arya, as you rightly point out Ms Snow.

  112. Broken Wolf
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 6:59 am | Permalink

    Tori Targaryen,

    I know the War of Five Kings means nothing. I’ve read the books. :)
    I just want Stannis Baratheon dead. As long as he deals with the Boltons first; and the Freys, of course, are already being dealt with by the BWB and LS.

  113. Sir Dosser
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:02 am | Permalink

    Where is Blackfish is the actor playing him listed in this season?

  114. Rafael
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:15 am | Permalink

    Offtopic but if anyone happens to be interested Larry (otakuassemble) made a video about his S4 predictions.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnZN_GCFw3U&feature=youtu.be&a

  115. StMB
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    Broken Wolf,

    Well bad for you. He is not dying anytime soon. He is destined to fight the epic battle on the Trident against The “on the verge of insanity” Targaryen Queen Daenerys.

  116. Silver of Wyman
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:21 am | Permalink

    Broken Wolf,

    Isn’t that a bit ungrateful. Stannis is fighting the Boltons, the Freys, the Greyjoys, the Lannisters and the Tyrells. All of whom were enemies of the Starks. He even offered to make Jon the Lord of Winterfell. Ned also died because of his loyalty to Stannis. Why would you want him dead?

  117. Sir Dosser
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:21 am | Permalink

    I think Stannis wont survive the “battle in the snow”…

    The show involvment of Shireen and Gendry kinda backs that up in the term they are there as a replacement Baratheons same way Rickon is a safety solution for the Starks.

  118. Silver of Wyman
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    Sir Dosser,

    Well there is the blue eyed king with the flaming sword on the trident vision. I’m not saying, that I’m sure, that he’ll survive that battle, but there’s more evidence to his survival than there is against it.

  119. Sir Dosser
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    Silver of Wyman:
    Sir Dosser,

    Well there is the blue eyed king with the flaming sword on the trident vision. I’m not saying, that I’m sure, that he’ll survive that battle, but there’s more evidence to his survival than there is against it.

    That vision had no link with the trident ….

    Stannis already had his red sword act at the Wall … thats what Dany saw in her vision

    The trident vision was Dany vs. ice zombies

  120. Silver of Wyman
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    Sir Dosser,

    “When she saw the USURPER’S rebel host across the river they were armored all in ice”. Stannis is the closest thing to a usurper, that Dany has left.

  121. Sir Dosser
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    Silver of Wyman:
    Sir Dosser,

    “When she saw the USURPER’S rebel host across the river they were armored all in ice”. Stannis is the closest thing to a usurper, that Dany has left.

    Hmm forgot about that detail.

    Well the Starks are also considered by Dany as the “userpers dogs”… :-/ , Shireen would also be a “usurper”

    Hell everyone is a usurper to Dany :)

  122. House Mormont
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    for any optimists out there, george has said hes reached the limit (of sample chapters from Winds that he’ll show.. and that can only be a good sign progress wise

  123. Sir Dosser
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    House Mormont:
    for any optimists out there, george has said hes reached the limit (of sample chapters from Winds that he’ll show.. and that can only be a good sign progress wise

    No that means he run out of DWD leftovers and hasnt got anything new.

  124. Silver of Wyman
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:57 am | Permalink

    Sir Dosser,

    I didn’t think about the possibility, that Shireen could be the usurper. I just think that Stannis vs Daenerys would be one of the coolest ideas for the final conflict. The “armored in ice quote” is the thing that interests me the most. Could the usurper be the new Night’s King. Or (crackpot) could the Others be a tool to be used against the Dragons. I dunno I never liked the idea of humans allying with a race, that uses dead humans as tool (wights). It usually doesn’t work (STARCRAFT II HotS!!!!)

  125. Sir Dosser
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    Silver of Wyman:
    Sir Dosser,

    I didn’t think about the possibility, that Shireen could be the usurper. I just think that Stannis vs Daenerys would be one of the coolest ideas for the final conflict. The “armored in ice quote” is the thing that interests me the most. Could the usurper be the new Night’s King. Or (crackpot) could the Others be a tool to be used against the Dragons. I dunno I never liked the idea of humans allying with a race, that uses dead humans as tool (wights). It usually doesn’t work (STARCRAFT II HotS!!!!)

    Anway that vision means NightWatch is f00*ked… if ice zombies are at the trident

  126. TheBerylfly
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    Wow, this site went waaaay downhill with the way it reacts to the people who dare to complain, dislike, or discuss somethign with relation of the boook, and it weren’t that great to begin with

  127. House Mormont
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    Sir Dosser: No that means he run out of DWD leftovers and hasnt got anything new.

    he was a quarter done a year and a quarter ago, don’t be ridiculous. Samples are samples, they tease the book. He’s not gonna release the book sample by sample

  128. Ser Tahu
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Sandor Claws,
    1) There is no pic with Shae and Oberyn
    2) Shae looks like she is in her early-mid thirties in her pic. I don’t see how that is relevant to how old Myranda looks…

  129. cosca
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    House Mormont,

    It would be nice to have a single chapter released that wasn’t taken out of ADWD though, just to prove that he’s making some progress.

  130. Tom S
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    Macharius,

    The medieval armor it appears GoT is inspired by is meant to protect the vital spots whilst still granting the wearer the possibility to move around and fight. That’s why there are open spots, to allow swifter movement. Also if they get struck there they don’t necessarily die, which is also why most attackers won’t strike there since it wouldn’t be a lethal blow.

  131. Azad Injejikian
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Regarding fArya, you need a younger girl who could pass as 13 year old. No character exists right now that would fit that criteria except Shireen, and she has greyscale- not happening.

    The only option on the table, a longshot, is they have cast an Innkeepers daughter for this season. Some speculate she’ll meet Gregor, perhaps she’ll also be sent north?

  132. Azad Injejikian
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    Silver of Wyman,

    IIRC its The wall, not the trident

  133. Ashara D
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    House Mormont:
    for any optimists out there, george has said hes reached the limit (of sample chapters from Winds that he’ll show.. and that can only be a good sign progress wise

    YES!!

    TheBerylfly,

    Its the personal attacks and name calling that I dislike so much. People can be passionate, but don’t have to call their equally passionate fellow an idiot. It really sucks the fun out of the debate.

    Rygar, you never fail to make me smile. :)

    I am intrigued by the possibilities of the Theon storyline this season. Let’s trust D&D and see where it goes.

    Great to see Shireen! Love that little actress. I hope it is Shireen that that matters in the story going forward and not her greyscale.

  134. Broken Wolf
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    Silver of Wyman,

    Thankfully, even an idiot like Jon is smart enough to know that he belongs on the Wall now, even if he is who all the readers think he is. And I want Stannis dead because he is far too much of an ungrateful prick to deserve any higher position of authority than he already has. He has everyone falling over backwards to do what he tells them and he doesn’t even have the basic instinct of common courtesy to thank them for what they’re doing for him. I know he’s had his fare share of injustices done to him, but that is no excuse for unloading his anger and bitterness onto everyone around him, Plus if he died, then his much more likable daughter would become lady of Storm’s End and everyone would love her like they loved Robert and Renly.

    The Boltons, the Freys, Stannis, Selyse, the White Walkers. Valar Morghulis.

  135. Hoyti Von Totiy
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    This is the victim of Ramsey and Myrandas “hunt”:

    http://www.imagebam.com/image/f1878f317536344

  136. Hoyti Von Totiy
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    House Mormont: he was a quarter done a year and a quarter ago, don’t be ridiculous. Samples are samples, they tease the book. He’s not gonna release the book sample by sample

    Theres done and theres GRRMs “done

    done = book

    done” = weiners and turtles

    Does a turtle have a weiner? How they do it trough the shell? Im sure we will find out in WOW when it comes out in the year:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNM2K8cmU8

  137. Hollyoak
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Hath4:
    No myranda will not be fake arya.She is a sadist/ accomplice who is involved in ramsays worst atrocities. She will be along for a hunt with ramsay and reek as ramsay hunts down a poor girl for sport .She will most likley die in yaras attack on the dreadfort.

    Who the hell is this? Is this character in the books? Is Myranda the actor’s name or the character’s name? I thought I was pretty up to date on casting and and such but I guess not. I do think, however, I saw her in a trailer.

  138. Hath4
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Hollyoak,

    she was in the last season when her and the other girl seduced/ raped theon before ramsay castrated him. she is a sadist and an accomplice of ramsay. she is fulfilling a role that the bastard boys / big walder / little walder had in the books. assisting ramsay in his atrocity’s such as his hunting and torture.

  139. Dragonslayer
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Hollyoak,

    Myranda (played by Charlotte Hope) is one of Ramsay’s girls from last season.

  140. Varamyr 4 skins
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Macharius,

    What makes you the master of ancient armor and fighting? Probably nothing. I’d say its very illogical to complain about such a thing in a tv show where they have the biggest budget on tv

  141. Sandor Claws
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Annara Snow: I have no idea what Shae has to do with this.

    Made me laugh

    Oh, the humanity…
    Maybe you should only speak for yourself.

    Perhaps you should revise your essay. Start with an outline of your thoughts and expand on them until you understand what’s going on. Plenty of deaths and torture no one particularly cared about.

    But I guess the audiences will care much more about a sadistic bitch who helped Ramsey castrate Theon and torture and kill innocent women. Her plight would be much more likely to break people’s hearts, rather than make them think that she had it coming.

    Exhibit A: Jaime

    No, she doesn’t.

    How old does Shae look in her pic for comparison?

    This wouldn’t just be an inferior storyline, it would be an idiotic and absurd storyline.

    Which is exactly why it’s suspected. Why else feature her so much? To reinforce Ramsey’s sadistic side? His human side? Not enough characters? Charlotte has connections? She’s pretty? Nothing better to do? She’s going to die this season? She barely had a part. She was a fluffer.

  142. Daniellica
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Sister Wrister,

    TROGDOR!!

  143. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    Hoyti Von Totiy,

    You’ve now talked more about turtles on this site than GRRM ever did. What’s with turtle obsession?

  144. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Please no on the sexy armor. Yuck! GoT is a high quality show that puts a lot of effort and thought into the costuming. It isn’t some third rate sexist video game. There is plenty of nudity in the show if you titillation. There is no need for terrible armored bikinis that nobody would ever realistically wear because they provide no actual protection. The entire point of armor is to cover vulnerable areas. Luckily D&D, Michelle Clapton, and the show’s armorers know better than adolescent boys.

  145. Hath4
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    Sandor Claws,

    well she is really not going to be featured that much. she is in episode 2 along with ramsay and reek as ramsay hunts a girl through the forest. a crtic who has seen the first 3 epiosdes said she is really just a cartoonish henchwomen. the hunt is there to show the viewer how much of a psychopath ramsay is and to have reek witness it to turn him in to reek for good. do you really think the viewer could feel for her after assisting ramsay in sadistic crimes. Jamie and theon never enjoyed what they had to do.

  146. Annara Snow
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Sir Dosser: No that means he run out of DWD leftovers and hasnt got anything new.

    Or… *drumroll* Those chapters that were supposed to be ADWD are the early chapters, and GRRM is not an idiot to release the really spoilery chapters that come after? He could have released the Sansa chapter that was moved from ADWD, but he didn’t… because her last chapter in AFFC was a cliffhanger, and GRRM isn’t going to reveal what she does next before the book comes out, just like he isn’t going to reveal what’s up with Jon, or what’s up with Brienne and Jaime.

  147. Doug
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Michele Clapton is no longer involved with the show though. And I would not argue that D&D know better. They have said many times, they do not know much about proper costume design and leave that entirely up to the costume department. With Clapton now gone, no one knows how her replacement will be, or what design opinions the replacement will have. I’d say because of those factors, anything is possible.

  148. Annara Snow
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Sandor Claws: Made me laugh

    Perhaps you should revise your essay. Start with an outline of your thoughts and expand on them until you understand what’s going on. Plenty of deaths and torture no one particularly cared about.

    Exhibit A: Jaime

    How old does Shae look in her pic for comparison?

    Which is exactly why it’s suspected. Why else feature her so much? To reinforce Ramsey’s sadistic side? His human side? Not enough characters? Charlotte has connections? She’s pretty? Nothing better to do? She’s going to die this season? She barely had a part. She was a fluffer.

    It’s good to know that you can laugh for no reason, but I’m afraid that no amount of revising my “essay” would make your posts start making sense. You got that one backwards. But since your argument seems to be that the more absurd a fan theory about the show is, the more likely it is to be true*, I have already accepted the fact that your logic does not resemble our Earth logic, so I will not try to debate with you any further.

    Although even that is probably a better argument than claiming that Jaime is sadistic or that Shae looks like she’s Arya’s age… or whatever it is that you are trying to say.

  149. Steven
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    I’m kinda interested and confused by the inclusion of Shireen in the promos. The actress and character are great, but I go the impression from the books she’s a super minor character. There are so many other characters they could include. Why her? I could think of a dozen that would be more important that they’ve cut.

  150. Ours is the Fury
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Steven,

    This is the second batch of officially released promo pics for Sky Atlantic. The first batch had Dany and mostly everyone you’d expect. The promo pics tend to be chosen based on who is prominent in specific episodes. And certainly Hivju is striking looking.

  151. Sandor Claws
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Hath4,

    Well, it’s good to know it’s unlikely. I found JP’s story too shocking for tv, but it isn’t tv. It’s HBO. :P

  152. Hollyoak
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Hath4:
    Hollyoak,

    she was in the last season when her and the other girl seduced/ raped theon before ramsay castrated him. she is a sadist and an accomplice of ramsay. she is fulfilling a role that the bastard boys / big walder / little walder had in the books. assisting ramsay in his atrocity’s such as his hunting and torture.

    Thanks, guys. Was she ever mentioned by name in season three?

  153. Mursk
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Episode 10 is going to cause siezures among the non-readers. “Children? Oh, must be about Arya and Bran and Shireen…doobie doobie doo…wtf is that talking to Bran? Is that an elf? Wait, that wasn’t the last scene. Who’s being hanged? A Frey? Who is that in the cloak? What. Just. Happened?”

    Hope they recover their motor skills by Season 5.

    Oh and Shireen!!! <3

  154. Sandor Claws
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Annara Snow,
    The lack of understanding is clear.

  155. Jake
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Who’s that between Tormund and Joffrey?

  156. Joshua Atreides
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    Hollyoak,

    She was, her companion said “Myranda was going to be a Septa” or something along those lines.

  157. Sandor Claws
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    A. Obviously
    B. I can see how a 12 year old would think Myranda looks like an adult, but she looks so young compared to Shae in these pics. How old is Myranda?

  158. Al Swearengen
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Let me get this right, there isn’t enough room for Strong Belwas but there’s room for one of Ramsay’s prostitutes to get some bow and arrows ? smh

  159. Rabid Grunt
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Hath4:
    Sandor Claws,

    well she is really not going to be featured that much. she is in episode 2along with ramsay and reek as ramsay hunts a girl through the forest.a crtic who has seen the first 3 epiosdessaid she is really just a cartoonish henchwomen. the hunt is there to show the viewer how much of a psychopath ramsay is and to have reek witness it to turn him in to reek for good. do you really think the viewer could feel for her after assisting ramsay in sadistic crimes. Jamie and theon never enjoyed what they had to do.

    Link to the review plz? I havnt been able to find one of the first three episodes yet.

  160. Hounded
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    If a fat man turned up and said “MMM LIVER AND ONIONS STRONG BELWAS STRONG!” would you be satisfied?

  161. Joshua Atreides
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Well I am glad to see that there is actual follow through with the Theon seduction scene. I wonder if the inclusion of Myranda on his hunts is a way to stifle Ramsay’s blatant misogyny by replacing it with a gender neutral sadism? If a woman is helping Ramsay it safely demonstrates vague malevolence as opposed to a particular hatred for the opposite sex; an aspect the producers did not want to bring into the mix after they’ve already more than hinted at that sentiment with Joffrey.

  162. cosca
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    Strong Belwas is the Jar Jar of aSoIaF, he needed to be cut at all costs.

  163. Arthur
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    I also wish Strong Belwas was cast.

    However, I think it’s more about keeping the size of Dany’s already huge entourage down rather then just the show’s headspace in general…

  164. Arthur
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Off Topic:

    Has anyone been watching ‘Vikings’?

    Great season so far IMO. It’s no GoT but it makes the wait easier…

    Ragnar’s son Bjorne is pretty cool now that he has grown up… And Lagatha is still my fav character.

  165. hath4
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Atreides,

    well he is hunting a female victim so its still is a huge part of his character. he is one sick man. He is more of a general all around psychopath and sadist than a misogamist in the books. He preys on week people. That’s why women often fall victim to his hunts. this is in a westerous context, in our modern world women are often stronger than men and that is a good thing. But ramsay I would say hates everyone about the same, some of his worst acts have been against men.

  166. Arthur
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    I know this hence the term “ceremonial armor” which is basically just for show, not purpose.

    Dany’s armor would be for show and to enhance her already beautiful figure.

    It’s not something everyone would want to see, I understand this but I for one would love it…

  167. hath4
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Rabid Grunt,

    they are on a forum of ice and fire in the little questions that don’t fit anyware else thread, a poster was kind enough to answer our questions.

  168. Paul
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    I agree with those wanting Dany needing a bit more of an Aegon sisterwife militaristic look, dump the blue(there should be a substantial fine or a short prison sentence for continuing to dress her in that) We need some red and bronze on a cream background or some bloody thing.

  169. Hollyoak
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Arthur:
    Off Topic:

    Has anyone been watching ‘Vikings’?

    Great season so far IMO.It’s no GoT but it makes the wait easier…

    Ragnar’s son Bjorne is pretty cool now that he has grown up…And Lagatha is still my fav character.

    Hey Arthur,

    Yes, Vikings is pretty cool. Not bad for a network’s first dramatic show ever (History Channel.)

    The episode from last season where vikings volunteered to be sacrificed haunts me to this day.

  170. Strong Belwas
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    cosca: Strong Belwas is the Jar Jar of aSoIaF, he needed to be cut at all costs.

    I let each man cut me once, before I kill him.

  171. Arthur
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    You can’t tell me that any fantasy geek, like myself, who grew up rolling 20 sided dice and played AD&D every week with close friends (and still do)… Jaw’s wouldn’t drop if Dany walked up to Drogon, gave a battle speech, then mounted him and flew away wearing this…

    http://asoiaf-headcanons.tumblr.com/image/54322122001

    That would be amazing… And what man in her army wouldn’t want to fight for her?

    That’s the purpose of that ceremonial armor, to inspire and make her subjects just look in awe…

    Dany is the closet thing to a blood elf or dark elf we are going to get in the GRRM world.

    Her beauty is legendary so why not play with that fact on the show?

  172. Arthur
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Hollyoak,

    Me too! That was such a dramatic masterpiece of an episode!

    I YouTube that sacrifice song once in a while and think of that warrior who sacrificed himself for the love of his friends.

  173. Joshua Atreides
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Because the aesthetic your looking for is too AD&D in nature than the look the producers have thus far conceived. GoT is more grounded in reality than WOW or whatever generic fantasy franchise currently existing. It’s the same reason why Strong Belwas isn’t in the series or why Cersei is far more complex in the Show Universe compared to her book counterpart. The Frazetta visuals you have in mind doesn’t jive with the world they are trying to portray.
    Not to say that they won’t give Dany armour but it would probably be something similar to what Cate Blanchett wore in Elizabeth: the Golden Age . Something Queenly not trashy.

  174. Hounded
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    That depiction just looks like nerd porn. It looks like something someone would have on their wall in a dungeons and dragons den.

  175. KG
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Rafael,

    I thought he was neverevereverevernever watching the show again?

  176. Braincandy
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    That is a GORGEOUS piece of art work but should remain as such. I don’t think it would translate to TV well. It’ll come off too cheesy.

  177. KG
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Wait – it’s Gemma the production designer who left. Michelle Clapton is in the preview pieces for this season.

    Doug:
    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Michele Clapton is no longer involved with the show though. And I would not argue that D&D know better. They have said many times, they do not know much about proper costume design and leave that entirely up to the costume department. With Clapton now gone, no one knows how her replacement will be, or what design opinions the replacement will have. I’d say because of those factors, anything is possible.

  178. Sandor Claws
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Azad Injejikian: Regarding fArya, you need a younger girl who could pass as 13 year old. ,

    Jaime said fArya looks older than Arya.

  179. Joshua Atreides
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    KG,

    I guess Larry like many readers had issues with the Red Wedding and finally mustered the wherewithal to press forward. It’s the same old sentiment: “I gotta see what happens next.”

  180. OldeCrone
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Atreides,

    I think you are right about the “fan art”. Fans are free to draw their art of course; it’s not for me to tell people what they should or should not draw or like, but even in a fantasy, armour which leaves the middle of the body exposed would be daft – Dany’s flame-proof not arrow proof. The bikini-type “armour” was more like something a person would wear if she was relaxing with her man of the moment – not to protect her from weapons when going into battle. If Dany hasn’t had enough disposable income to buy a fleet yet, would she waste money on “ceremonial” armour? I think not.

  181. Daniellica
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    OldeCrone: The bikini-type “armour” was more like something a person would wear if she was relaxing with her man of the moment – not to protect her from weapons when going into battle.

    The bikini-as-armor myth?
    I blame Jabba.
    It also takes the brain power of a giant worm not to recognize that bare skin is the least imaginative way to be sexy about something.
    They could dress Emilia as the Black Knight and cut her arms off and she’d still be smokin.

  182. Studbeasttank
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Maybe Myranda could be one of the murder victems in winterfell?

  183. Valaquen
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    Doug:

    Michele Clapton is no longer involved with the show though.

    She’s still with the show, she was featured in one of the costume production videos released a few days ago. You’re mistaking her for Gemma Jackson, the production designer.

  184. tysnow
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I can envision Dany armored similarly when she rides Drogon into battle later in the series. Dressed like that she’ll become the most popular actress on television and also the new Princess Leia for the next generation or two.

  185. Greenjones
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    I think she already is the new Princess Leia. Her Dothraki outfit is big at cons.

  186. UnbowdUnbentedUnhodor
    Posted March 29, 2014 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Hollyoak: Hey Arthur,

    Yes, Vikings is pretty cool. Not bad for a network’s first dramatic show ever (History Channel.)

    The episode from last season where vikings volunteered to be sacrificed haunts me to this day.

    Oh man that was fucked. Lagerthas fkn hot. Id chose her over that weird bitch anyday

  187. KG
    Posted March 30, 2014 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    Heh, Princess Ass Log, as she has been dubbed by detractors. She IS one weiiiiiiird looking woman, for sure.

    UnbowdUnbentedUnhodor: Oh man that was fucked. Lagerthas fkn hot. Id chose her over that weird bitch anyday

  188. Udi
    Posted March 30, 2014 at 4:56 am | Permalink

    Breaking Bad: RV = Recreational Vehicle
    GoT: RV = Red Viper
    Looking forward to the Recreational Viper

  189. OldeCrone
    Posted March 30, 2014 at 6:15 am | Permalink

    I still think going into battle in a bikini would be inviting destruction. However, there was a link on a history site I visit sometimes to some medieval “undies” that were found by chance lying under floorboards at an Austrian castle.http://http://www.medievalists.net/2012/07/17/medieval-lingerie-discovery-in-austria-reveals-what-really-was-worn-under-those-tunics/ These are examples of what was worn under the outerwear of course. They are very tattered and – (sorry to any hot blooded young males visiting the site) are either lying flat or on a mannequin rather than a live person – but the styles are surprisingly modern in appearance.

  190. DrogosDeadBaby
    Posted March 30, 2014 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Regarding the FA revealI suspect that Ramsey will take Reek along on a hunt, and the girl they find will recgonise Theon and Theon will save her life by saying that she is Arya

  191. Sister Wrister
    Posted March 30, 2014 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Daniellica,

    Nice catch. :) Did you see I got an Arrow! In there as well?

    Strong Belwas,

    Glad to hear you’re feeling better ;)
    Please let us know of any casting news.

  192. Kael of the Lake
    Posted March 31, 2014 at 3:57 am | Permalink

    Shae is not Shae anymore.
    And that hurts a lot.

  193. Kael of the Lake
    Posted March 31, 2014 at 4:37 am | Permalink

    Tom S:
    Macharius,
    The medieval armor it appears GoT is inspired by is meant to protect the vital spots whilst still granting the wearer the possibility to move around and fight. That’s why there are open spots, to allow swifter movement. Also if they get struck there they don’t necessarily die, which is also why most attackers won’t strike there since it wouldn’t be a lethal blow.

    That’s wrong, no. It’s uneducated guessing.

    Full body armors, especially late gothic and Maximilian, were designed to be extremely flexible while covering every body part. They didn’t need holes to be more flexible. They were heavy though.

    If they got struck in an opening of such, 4 things could happen (because we’re talking about several inches of steel going through flesh tearing it up)
    a) Make it alive, being extremely lucky and proving to have an exceptional immunizing system. But such cut would rend them useless for any other battle since these spots may not be “vital” but I’m quite certain that destroying a joint could mean hell for the rest of one’s life.
    b) Die after a week or two from an infected wound.
    c) Don’t die instantly but be neutralized and ineffective buying them a few seconds until their opponent finish them off.
    d) Live up two a minute or two and die of blood loss because, you know, arteries tend to exist in many “non vital” parts of the body. I guess by “vital” you meant heart and brains.

    Finally, all opponents tend to strike specifically these parts, on purpose, because everything else is covered and protected. They try to kill the guy not scratch his armor and make him sad. The opposite would be very funny indeed. Imagine finding an uncovered elbow and thinking “Nah, why hit there? he may lose an arm, drop down from unimaginable pain, loose a couple kilos of blood BUT it won’t kill him instantly. Sport-wise unethical.”

  194. Kael of the Lake
    Posted March 31, 2014 at 4:47 am | Permalink

    Sorry for the double (triple) post but how did bloody Khal Drogo died?

  195. Whispering Walda
    Posted March 31, 2014 at 5:37 am | Permalink

    OldeCrone,

    Thanks for the link – really interesting.
    Looking at it,
    a) The Bra pictured is not really a bra, but the remains of a half-corset or camisole (or maybe the top part of a full corset or fitted slip)
    b) Looking at the double-layered front of the ‘string bikini’, it looks like it might be designed to hold menstrual towels – so maybe not for every day wear?
    c) The construction is incredibly modern – the netting trim, the ruching, the seam construction – that is a lot of work put into sturdy coarse-woven linen, that is not otherwise dyed or embroidered or embellished. The wearer of these clothes was tiny – size 00 at the most. Never seen anything like it before the July Monarchy/1830′s …remarkable.

  196. Whispering Walda
    Posted March 31, 2014 at 5:54 am | Permalink

    Kael of the Lake,

    Smothered by a silk cushion stuffed with feathers

  197. Kael of the Lake
    Posted March 31, 2014 at 7:13 am | Permalink

    Whispering Walda,

    Imagine then what a sharpened arakh could do.

  198. Rickard Greyjoy
    Posted March 31, 2014 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    KG,

    I’d never replace Lena Headey but when I first saw the actress who plays the princess I thought she might make a decent Cersei.

  199. OldeCrone
    Posted March 31, 2014 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Whispering Walda,

    I’m not an expert on “undies” construction, Walda, so maybe you are right. I was going by what they said on the video. I don’t know if they have carbon dated the clothing remains as yet. As for the sizing, weren’t Medieval people smaller than we are now? Mind you that’s me going from what I heard at school so don’t take it as gospel. There’s a salon in my home town I visit sometimes that dates from some time in the 1600s (most of the old and interesting buildings were knocked down several years ago but this is one that survived). I would say I am about average height, not 5 foot 2 eyes of blue, but not exceptionally tall either, and have to duck my head going up the stairs – as do most clients, so it seems that people were not so tall in the 1600s – in central England anyway. But from your comments it looks like they couldn’t have been the knickers Mrs D. Ranged said people were getting in a twist. (Not sure where you are based, Walda, but British people do sometimes call ladies’ briefs “knickers” though I understand in America the word is used for knee-breeches). I worked with an American lady for a time (married to an Englishman) who always burst out laughing in the lingerie department of English stores when she saw said word ……

  200. Whispering Walda
    Posted March 31, 2014 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Yes, its true people were smaller then (average age 30, average height 5’5″, average weight 120lb) That is about a size six in today’s terms but of course, about two in three females would be smaller than the average and these garments are not made for the average person, but fitted to one particular woman – so you can guess her size and speculate (eg. born at a time of famine, ailing from chronic TB, not yet fully grown, just petite?) .

    Knickers came from ‘knickerbockers’ which were mens drawers in the late 18th century, but by the mid-Regency there was a youth fashion for ladies to wear a light cotton version of these underneath their skirts ( whose hems were rising), and just peeking out below their petticoats. It was seen as a daring fashion when Princess Charlotte wore them in 1816, but not universal – the Bronte sisters packed no knickers to take to Cowan Bridge school in 1824. This fashion was seen as flouting gender conventions and was popular among the young bourgeois (there was also a fad for very short hair at the time). But the mainstream fashions changed back to longer, heavier skirts and more, starched, weighted petticoats, and the return of the long, tight laced whalebone corsets, stays, and crinolines that had gone out of fashion in the 1790′s.

    In 1850′s New York, Amelia Bloomer promoted ‘turkish trousers’ (knickers enclosed at the bottom) promoting health rather than the excess of under-wiring, but also promoting women’s lib. Again it was an alternate rather than a mainstream fashion, and until the Civil War was a symbol of the Suffragette cause or female emancipation more generally. Dorothy Dix attempted with mixed success to ban bloomers from her nursing corps in 1864 but the fashion faded after the war.

    Until the 1890′s, when the Suffrage movement started making big gains again (eg. 1893: In US, they got congress to consider 19th amendment, in UK the Married Women’s Property act passed, in NZ they got the vote) . Bloomers came back, and stayed as standard sports dress for women riding bicycles, swimming, and playing tennis. The Bra and panties combo didn’t really take off until the 1920′s.

    So from the time of the French revolution, there is a link between the freeing up of the female torso, and the emancipation of women. The fashions of Kings Landing seem to have this quality too. with Sansa wearing a tight-laced corset (but not on her wedding night) , Cersei has gowns that stand up by themselves, Margarey flaunts her midriff, more like a Royalist Merveilleuse of post-Revolutionary France (another time when women nearly got Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité and a vote, and waists were set free- and corsetlettes ‘first’ appeared.) Shae dresses more like the descriptions of Le Merveilleuses in anti-Revolutionary propaganda, or the overheated Tales of Arabian Nights but even she has a belted waist.

    Maybe the woman who wore this ‘bra’ also wore a smock and waist defining piece of underwear that had not survived, or maybe for this woman being able to bend and run in order to do her job was considered more important than modesty or style. There’s no causal link between emancipation and lack of undies, but it is interesting to speculate on who wore those clothes and why.


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