Season 4, Episode 1 – Two Swords – Open Chat
By WiC Staff on in Recap.

The wait is finally over, Game of Thrones returns tonight! Discuss the premiere episode of Season 4 with fellow fans and look forward to our recap later tonight. Episode details are after the break.

Writers: David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
Directors: David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
Runtime: 59 minutes
Synopsis: Tyrion welcomes a guest to King’s Landing while at Castle Black, Jon Snow finds himself unwelcome. Dany is pointed to Meereen, the mother of all slave cities. Arya runs into an old friend.
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465 Comments

  1. UKStark
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    BUZZING!!!

  2. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    Viper!

  3. Turncloak
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    STANNIS!!!

  4. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    1 hour and 18 minutes! The marathon is showing the red wedding right now :(

  5. Pointy End
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    yessssss open chats once mooorree chatting in the open opening chats ^_^

  6. Broken Wolf
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    Could some people please cool it with Stannis? I get he’s your favourite character, even though I’ll never understand why, but there’s no need to scream his name on every message board on this site.

  7. David
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    Not long now!

  8. winwolf
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    stannis!!

  9. House Olivegarden
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Im so excited i might pee! Im at work and there are so many Game of Thrones references here tonight.. SO Pumped, just wish i was off to enjoy my friends premiere party :(

  10. JI
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    What house would you be in? I myself would probably be in house Bolton or Lannister, though I could see Stark or Baratheon being close after.

  11. House Olivegarden
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Broken Wolf:
    Could some people please cool it with Stannis? I get he’s your favourite character, even though I’ll never understand why, but there’s no need to scream his name on every message board on this site.

    thats probably because he is a badass and very misunderstood IMO. He held a year long siege at Storms End dude, living off nothing but leather straps. Dudes awesome. STANNIS!!

  12. KG
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Gonna be fun! My Unsullied brother always watches the show with me – cannot wait for it to start :D

  13. Winter is not coming
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    stannis is the man

  14. Viktor
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Can someone update the episode guide with titles, synopsis and running times please!:)

  15. seldom selmy
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Because Stannis is the only one who is 100% correct that he has a claim to the throne. Even more so than dany. She is only an heir because 100s of years ago..her ancestor conquered over previous kings…well Robert took over, so tough luck. Stannis is hardly any different from Ned…he just isn’t as “nice”

  16. Lex
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    1 hour! So excited. Even though I have to wait another 4…

  17. Ale
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Someone knows a link to watch the episode online??

  18. The lord of light
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    GO STANNIS

  19. Lex
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Broken Wolf:
    Could some people please cool it with Stannis? I get he’s your favourite character, even though I’ll never understand why, but there’s no need to scream his name on every message board on this site.

    STANNIS!

  20. Leo
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    59 minutes? Thought it was 58… wonder what they didn’t include in the early screenings ;-) must be goooood.

  21. Broken Wolf
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    House Olivegarden,

    Yeah, he and his men spent a year living off rats and Lord knows what else. And when Davos came and basically saved his life and the lives of all the other people starving their asses off, what did Stannis do? He just went straight back to his job with out so much as a handshake to say to Davos: Holy shit, thank you for saving my life and the lives of my family and soldiers. Stannis Baratheon is a thankless asshole and he deserves all the crap we can send his way.

  22. The lord of light
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    here in the netherlands i have to wait another 18 hours to see Season 4, Episode 1 on my hbo

  23. Chickenduck
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    I’m in Australia, last year you could buy the whole season on iTunes for $33 and it dropped less than 24 hours after being on TV in the US.

    But this year they gave exclusive rights to Foxtel (Murdoch’s payTV channel), which means we’re pretty much all going to pirate it again…

    So I guess I’ll see you guys in a few hours on channel BitTorrent!

  24. wizardeyes
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Broken Wolf,

    Part of the reasons asoiaf is so good is because people can argue over stuff like this. There’s no right answer – its all open to interpretation and you can intemperate everything many different ways. (Though I do think stannis is awesome).

  25. Liz
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Viktor,

    Lol, why not? Maybe I’ll jump on the Stannis bandwagon just for fun ;P Naah, I’m more of a Viper girl. OBERYN!!!

  26. Blunted
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Stannie Fannies are the worst. I don’t dislike him, but his fans are annoying.

  27. Liz
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    Oh my, the comments are coming fast! 5 replies in the time it took me to write one!

  28. John-Michael
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    Dear god, I’m already dreading the wait to season 5. But we have all of season 4 to go ladies and gents! Who’s excited!? I’m EXCITED!

  29. loki
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    Are you excited? I am excited. So excited i’m going to watch this episode in three illegal streams at once.

  30. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    This last hour is going by really slowly.

  31. TheMannis
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Staaaaaaannnnnnnnniiiiiissssssssssssss!!!!!!!!

  32. Hizdadfs zo Fazlofp
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Stannis is a teeth-grinding grumpy cat-like meh of a person.

    Dany will answer injustice with justice!

  33. FictionIsntReal
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Stannis is the one true king as far as I’m concerned, but I always assumed the comments were in imitation of the Hodor/firsties comments.

  34. Ale
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    loki,

    could you post here one of them please?

  35. Carl Drago
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    Just curious do we know the titles of all the episodes yet? I feel like in the past we knew all the episode titles before the season started.

  36. Joffreys brother
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    can some one help a brother out? Im trying to find a live stream for the episode and I cant find one. I write now because its 45minutes left and winter is coming. I would be very thankful if anyone could post a link of a stream or anything to help me out. Thank you

  37. Arthur
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    The Red Viper is Coming!!!

    HBO Shop where’s my Oberyn Martell shirt you slackers?!? I got money over here I want to give you to pay for season 5 already!!!

    Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken!!!

  38. Yago
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    loki,

    Any links would be appreciated. Not sure the 1 I found will work.

  39. Ale
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    I think that i found one, now there is a superman movie on it, after the movie game of thrones will be there

  40. Ale
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:19 pm | Permalink
  41. Patty
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    Watching Mhysa right now .. can’t believe I’m so exited

  42. Lyanna_Targaryen
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    My kid’s fourth birthday party was today, and though I played the dutiful mother and the party went off without a hitch, the entire time inside my head I was just counting down until 9pm pacific time.

    Bad mom, great GoT fan.

    CHEERS TO THE BEST 10 WEEKS OF THE YEAR!

  43. seldom selmy
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Broken Wolf,

    Except Stannis did thank him. For all the years Davos had been smuggling, he should have been killed accordingbto the laws. Stannis said his good deed couldn’t entirely wash away the decades of law breaking so instead of killing him..Stannis took his fingers then made him a knight with land holdings…and took his son on as his squire…and made Davos ( a man that all other lords mock) his hand of the king.

  44. Bgap
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    4o minutes to go. It’s always surreal to get to this point after nine plus months of waiting, anticipating, predicting.

  45. loki
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Ale:
    could you post here one of them please?

    nah, i’ll get banned for a good time then, and i still need to let everyone know how i disliked the episode. You can search the imdb forums though, i’m sure it’s there somewhere

  46. Joffreys brother
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Thank you so much for the links dear @ale

  47. paul
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    does it start at 6 or 9 pm pt?

  48. Steel_Wind
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    General observation: the amount of sheer HYPE about the premiere of GoT tonight on mainstream web sites and the newspapers is quite remarkable.

    If you don’t know that GoT Season 4 premieres tonight, you are living under a rock.

    The ratings are going to be HIGH.

  49. Hard Truths
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    “We do not choose our destinies. Yet we must…we must do our duty, no? Great or small, we must do our duty.”

    Stannis!

  50. Dorne tootin
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    I’m the god of tits and wine!

    Ok, ok…only an acolyte…squee! 30 minutes!

  51. Dorne tootin
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Hard Truths:
    “We do not choose our destinies. Yet we must…we must do our duty, no? Great or small, we must do our duty.”

    Stannis!

    Stannis!

  52. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    paul,

    I’m guessing that if you’re on pacific time you can watch it at 6 on HBO east.

  53. gisizzlah
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    Omg i love that picture…. Red Viper is easily going to be my favourite character this season…

  54. Av
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Saw the season opener Friday and it does not disappoint !! Red viper casting is spot on! Enjoy! One casting not to fond of

  55. dRuhtinasz
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    Well let the party begin. Let the red flow wine!

  56. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Av,

    Hmm, isn’t Styr the only new character to appear in the premier? Or are you talking about a recast?

  57. David
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Anyone know what time the episode will be available on HBO GO?

    The episode airs at 9 EST, so will the episode be available online at 9 or 10?

  58. reyne22
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    well im psyched, and am glad that Oberyn is a Second Son

  59. dRuhtinasz
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Hear about some snakes

  60. Hard Truths
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    David,

    It’s usually up a few minutes after 9.

  61. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    It’s good that Pedro Pascal has been getting a positive reception now that people have seen Two Swords. When the casting was first announced, a lot of people were skeptical because he’s not well known and he wasn’t in any fans dream casting lists. Looks like they were wrong, just as I thought! After all, the Stark pups were all less experienced than PP when they were cast and they worked out great.

  62. Greyscale FTW
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    May everyone enjoy themselves! Time is nigh!

  63. Traveling Targaryen
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    I thought this moment would never come! Alas, the end of the hiatus is nigh! Let us all, Lannisters and Starks alike (and Targaryens, of course) enjoy the thrill we are about to experience and keep one thing in mind: this is an adaptation. “A Storm of Swords” is not the script, so do not treat it as such. Now that that’s covered, sit back and enjoy the show. Valar Morghulis. Valar Dohaeris.

  64. Rygar
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Fingers crossed for a BE tease.

  65. nymeria44
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Just cracked open my Fire and Blood and can’t wait for the show to start!

  66. David
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    Hard Truths,

    You’re talking 9 EST time, right?

  67. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Here we go. See you in an hour!

  68. wizardeyes
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

  69. Dornishman
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    It’s here!!!

  70. Reza
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    BOOM! It begins!!!

  71. Sansa's Knight
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Omg omg omg omg

  72. AshStorm
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    My RAGE burns with the FURY OF A THOUSAND SUNS and watching Eddard’s sword getting melted down!!!!

  73. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    First breasts 12 minutes in. You’re slipping, guys. You’re slipping.

    Oh, and we get a name-check of Prince Doran Martell…promising..

  74. pntrlqst
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Thanks a lot HBOGo for not doing as you’re paid to do.

  75. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Well…that first scene with Oberyn ought to quiet the concerned about Pedro Pascal…

  76. Sam
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    HBOGO has been giving me a whirly wheel of death for 10 minutes now. TEN. MINUTES. Knowing everyone else is watching and I can’t see it.

  77. Shane snow
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Oberyn Is pretty ill.. Def showing up all the hate wen he got cast

  78. Ned's Head
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Hbo go can go to hell, I keep getting booted.

  79. Brian
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    This is infuriating. The episode isn’t even up yet on HBOGo, yet HBOGo is still dying.

  80. Rene
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Many people on twitter didn’t know Daario was recast.
    Wait! There are people who only watch the show and don’t read websites/forums like this one?

  81. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    “I’m not sure what a dead cat smells like.”
    “They smell like Pycelle.”

    That’s hilarious.

  82. Helen Tran
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Sooooo excited!!!

    Liking this new Daario…. first one was a little too pretty.

    http://tiny-tran.blogspot.ca/2014/04/crystal-clay-game-of-thrones-part-6.html

  83. Padraig
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Broken Wolf,

    There is every need for it. Champion of light and the one true king.

  84. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Welcome back, Alliser Thorne! And you too, Janos Slynt!

    Slynt still kissing ass. Leaning toward Thorne every single time he speaks to curry favor. Well directed. Thorne couldn’t give a crap what Slynt is saying.

  85. Lyanna Targaryen
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    AH! My HBOGo JUST started working! I am shitting an entire litter of kittens!

  86. Av
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Not a fan of new daario doesn’t seem arrogant or brash enough! I’ll give him time to redeem himself

  87. Lorss
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Hey, i will watch the premier with my dad in two hours…. Is there any sex scene? It would be uncomfortable…??

  88. brownsnow
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Joffrey is such an as$@&!

  89. Sam
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    9:44. still not working. tried to google hangout with friends who were watching it. that didn’t work either. the internet is failing me in every way. posting comments on WiC is my only solace.

  90. Tina
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    how much is HBO Go? I wish it’s on iTunes. T T

  91. Khal_ Rhaego
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    Lyanna_Targaryen,

    You do know us west coasters can watch at 6pm on HBO east right?

  92. JamesL
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Av,

    That’s what have been saying, he doesn’t have the Daario attitude. First Daario was a good choice, it’s a shame they recast him. I hope it wasn’t D&D choice to recast for personal reasons either.

  93. Tatters
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    Ed Skrein was a rapper and model, simple as that. He was better in his music videos.

  94. Pedro
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    What a fucking good episode! This is THE season.

  95. cosca
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Fucking great episode.

  96. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Holy Crap! Needle! Red Viper! ARGGGGGGGGGGGH! Got to watch it again!

  97. Patty
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    That was frekkin awesome!! And we’re off…

  98. fire and blood
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    I actually like this Daario much more than Skreins portrayal of him!!

  99. House Mormont
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I’M SCREAMING

    IT WAS SO GOOD I’M SO HAPPY

    NOW I’M GONNA WATCH IT AGAIN

    3AM CLUB

  100. Arthur
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Arya scene was the best this episode!

  101. gswelcome
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Excellent start! Managed to do a different take with Arya at the inn, not as good as the original book version but I’ll take it. :)

  102. brownsnow
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Great episode! Lots of information.

  103. Charles M
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Not bad, but not the best first episode either.

  104. Littlefinger
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    @LorssTheres a brothel scene with full frontal female nudity in it and two gay dudes

  105. Turncloak
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Pretty good episode. Can’t wait to hear Dino and Byron’s unsullied reaction

  106. Rygar
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    They had me at the cold opener.

  107. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, I liked OLD DAARIO better…but whatevs, he’s not the most major thing here.

  108. King of the Ashes
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    IT WAS SOOOO AWESOME!! loving the Arya and the Hound dynamic. Dany and her Dragons… but Oberyn stole the show

  109. Hard Truths
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    The Hound! Fuck Yes!

  110. King of the Ashes
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Starting off with Tywin and Ice was soooo much win

  111. Jordan
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    It’s kind of a trade off with the Daarios. Daario 1 was believably an asshole, but not believably a seasoned mercenary. Daario 2 is believably a seasoned mercenary, but lacks some of the Daario ‘tude.

  112. Scott Glennon
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    …”Can you walk?” I stand corrected. Arya gets the own of the evening!

    The North Remembers…

  113. Kyle
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    Polliver said more in his one episode in S4 than he did in all of his S2 episodes combined.

  114. Shan
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Yesssss Arya KILLED that episode. Maisie was brilliant and the way they executed it made it so incredible. This was definitely the only good season opener since the pilot.

    All the Kings Landing stuff in the middle was starting to get really really dull and draggy but Tywins scene at the beginning/that flawless intro and Arya at the end completely redeemed it. Gah. They were both so perfect.

  115. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Maybe it’s just the euphoria speaking, but I loved every minute and have no criticisms. Arya was terrifying, and awesome. Sansa brought me to tears. The Red Viper was everything I wanted and more. So was Ellaria. I loved the parallel between Tyrion rejecting Shae and Cersei rejecting Jaime. The music accompanying the introduction to the Thenns was fantastic. Sansa got a nice strangler of a necklace. It was worth bringing Jaime to KL early to see him interact with Joffrey before he eats it. The Dreadfort was in the credits! And holy shit was the cold happen fantastic! Charles Dance was even better than he was last season. I didn’t think that was possible.

    Great premiere. Not slow at all. It felt like there was plot happening rather than just reintroductions to everyone. I can’t wait to see Bran, Theon and team Dragonstone next week.

    Happy happy joy joy!!!

  116. Uberstellar
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Book fans! Did you all gasp at the line she married Rhaegar and he left her for another woman as loud as I did?!

  117. Chris Carland
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    That episode was awesome!

  118. Shan
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Yesssss Arya KILLED that episode. Maisie was brilliant and the way they executed it made it so incredible. This was definitely the only good season opener since the pilot.

    All the Kings Landing stuff in the middle was starting to get really really dull and draggy but Tywins scene at the beginning/that flawless intro and Arya at the end completely redeemed it. Gah. They were both so perfect.

    How do you guys feel about the new writing/directing style? (Is this actually what it is idk) all I know is, as promised, there’s a lot more lengthy scenes (like the last one) instead of two minute flashes and it definitely seems to play out more like a film than a tv episode. Am I crazy or did anyone feel like it was totally different in this way? Was also much more comical and different sorts of camera tricks… idk just felt very different, cant decide if I like it or not yet!

  119. Traveling Targaryen
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Oh Daenerys, how I’ve missed thee. In other news, the scene with Oberyn fueled my bisexual desires in a way I had not known was possible, the Queen of Thorns continues to amaze, and Arya wins the Own of the evening. Hot damn what a premiere.

  120. arden
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE HOUND

  121. Ritas Smith
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Starks are becoming the killers now, sweet little Arya is taking a turn for the worse….

  122. KingJon
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Great episode. Oberyn did not disappoint. Loved the Hound at the end with Arya. HBO needs to make more Arya/Hound Schwag.

  123. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    So, uh, well. The Hound shows up 5 minutes before the end, and wins the battle for most number of great one-liners, and he does it in a walk.

  124. Lexyvil
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    A very good introduction to Season 4!

    Also, there was a point during the episode where the sound cut off completely (It felt like it was on mute) for about 3-4 seconds (It could have been my TV or cable, I don’t know). Did anyone else notice something like that?

  125. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    And yeah, Arya effin rocks this episode, but no spoilers from me. She can so sell a thought with her eyes it’s incredible.

  126. Rygar
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Where have you been?

  127. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    The Hound/Arya and The Red Viper won this episode. Thought Jaime had some good lines. New Daario didn’t really have much to work with this episode. Definately less douchey. I think they want to make him more tolerable so fans won’t role their eyes for two seasons. I thought Kit had a good start to his most important season. Need to rewatch to properly absorb everything. Right now I’d say it was better than the season 3 opener, and probably season 2 as well. Can’t wait for GRRM’s episode next week.

  128. MrsWun
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    Uberstellar,

    F- yeah we did! … for Fat Walda right?

  129. Sansa Bird
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    So are they removing all of Sansa’s agency by having her not aware of her escape from KL? Other than that I liked this episode! Really sad Arya’s furious stab monologue wasn’t included. But the Hound fight was fantastic!

  130. King of the Ashes
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    yes Shan this is a very different beast than we are accustomed to seeing. a more polished, cinematic, and universal beast… its different. i loved the old, and I’m warming up to this new monster… i feel like my girlfriend changed her hair… i still love her, she’s still the same person… but different still.

  131. Gatorfisch
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    Littlefinger:
    @LorssTheres a brothel scene with full frontal female nudity in it and two gay dudes

    No...one gay guy and one bisexual guy.

  132. KG
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    Well THAT was fun :D Joff’s statue was an absolute hoot. What a little pin-dick.

    Ok everyone – group hug of happiness before we all start fighting again.

    (((((HUG))))))

  133. Kyle
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    A lot of people complain about Shae’s acting, I am not one of them. However, even I can tell there was a big improvement from S3 to S4. Does anyone else agree?

    Also, did anyone else notice the sneaky handmaiden is the same one from previous seasons? In particular, I recall her being the one to catch Sansa and Shae flipping the mattress over and running to tell Cersei before Shae stopped her. I really appreciate continuity such as bringing actors who had such bit parts back to the show!

  134. rain
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Thought the 1st ep a bit tame. I look foward to more action.

  135. Dorne tootin
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Uberstellar:
    Book fans! Did you all gasp at the line she married Rhaegar and he left her for another woman as loud as I did?!

    YES!!!!

  136. Meraxes
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Uberstellar,

    YES I DID!!!
    Btw, favourite scenes are probably Jon’s and anything related to The Wall. Sansa’s were great too and I loved the scene with Tyrion.
    And I suspected that Tyrion didn’t sent Varys to give jewels to Shae, want to see how this plays out.
    And that conversation between Oberyn and Tyrion was awesome.

  137. Scott Glennon
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Uberstellar,

    THIS!

    The North Remembers…

  138. Shan
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    King of the Ashes,

    Haha exactly how I feel!!!! I’m too in the moment right now to step back and decide if I really like it or not but that’s what the next 10 weeks are for :)

  139. MrsWun
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Why am I craving chicken?

  140. KG
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    “Well aren’t you absolutely SINGULAR?” is an early entry in my “favorite line of the season” contest.

    Traveling Targaryen:
    the Queen of Thorns continues to amaze,

  141. Meraxes
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Uberstellar,

    YES I DID!!!
    Btw, favourite scenes are probably Jon’s and anything related to The Wall. Sansa’s were great too and I loved the scene with Tyrion.
    And I suspected that Tyrion didn’t sent Varys to give jewels to Shae, want to see how this plays out. And that conversation between Oberyn and Tyrion was awesome.

  142. David The Grey
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger: 1 hour and 18 minutes! The marathon is showing the red wedding right now :(

    I finished up the Season 3 DVD’s yesterday, watching eps 8, 9 and 10. I hadn’t seen the RW since it aired last year… and it was still hard to watch. I was a little surprised by that. Brilliant, but still tough. Frowny-face is right. :(

  143. Nessa
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    “What the fuck’s a Lommy?”

    Loved that Arya/The Hound scene.

  144. Gatorfisch
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Uberstellar,

    YES!!!! I was almost as excited to hear that as I was to hear Arya’s quote to Polliver! And me likey the Red Viper!

  145. Shan
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    Oh also… the score thus far is incredible!! Ramin can do so much with the Dorne theme song and the end… oh ma lerd

  146. rain
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    Thought the 1st ep a bit tame. Look forward to much more!

  147. Gatorfisch
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    Ser Dontos!!!! We got Ser Dontos!!!

  148. Greg
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    bugsbane,

    Thanks for spoiling a lot of stuff u asshole

  149. Shan
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Wait cinematic style + battle of the wall = awesome awesome awesome I cant wait

  150. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    Gatorfisch,

    But they took away Sansa’s agency! Oh noes! Everything is now ruined.

    Being serious, Sophie’s acting was superb in this episode, for that matter, all of the acting seemed better, especially Kit.

  151. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Overall, best season opener other than the first season (and really, that one’s hard to top – given how much lifting it had to do.)

    –What a cold open. Wow. Wordless. No dialogue! And then into the credits with the Dreadfort and Meereen showing up. Nice.

    –The Hound gets off like 9 great lines in the span of five minutes. And he gets his chicken, too.

    –Polliver’s a well-deserved death the way it needed to be done. And as great and awesome Arya is, seeing her turn into a stone killer is sad in a way. Sure, she needs to survive, but still, in a sense, it sucks.

    –Red Viper FTW!! So awesome. Pascal already killing it. Indira Varma perfect as Ellaria Sand.

    –Bronn is just awesome. Podrick looking strong!

    –Great Jaime/Tywin stuff. And I like the way they’re easing into scenes more too, as others stated.

    –I love when they do callbacks to other episodes: Jaime’s walking out on Tywin mirrors Tyrion walking out on him in Season 3, Episode 1. Shae’s “my lion” line when Tyrion walks in also mirrors early Season 3, but now, the reaction is much less open and much more acrimonious.

    –Dontos!!

    –The haircut is great for Jaime…and NCW is really playing him as a much wiser man, learned from what he’s done.

    And for the Sullied – aka the book readers:

    –Balon Greyjoy still alive. Not that we expected to see it, but just a theory: the longer he’s alive in the show, the greater the chance we get the Kingsmoot or at least some semblance of it. Why? He dies now, Iron Islands put on hold a long time. He dies in episode 10? Gives a chance to have Kingsmoot in Season 5:1. Just a thought.

    –Random thought. If the impact of LS is going to be greatest if she is first seen by Brienne in 4:10, it gives Brienne a lot more to do in Season 5 — she can spend the entire season doing the other half of her journey (say, Septon Meribald, Quiet Isle) — as she makes her way back to Jaime, rather than just showing up in Season 5:10 after several episodes away. To me, part of the reason Brienne finds Jaime is because the BWB probably did not kill Podrick, but keeps him as a hostage. If he’s dead, no value there, Brienne can elect to not find Jaime, lie to LS, and run the hell off.

    Ooooh. Doran Martell name-check there.

  152. Greg
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Kyle:
    Polliver said more in his one episode in S4 than he did in all of his S2 episodes combined.

    You act as if this is uncommon.

  153. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    I got too excited and forgot to mention things in my first comment.

    Drogon was scary as hell. It was great to see him scaring even Dany. The chemistry between Dany and Daario is really great. Michael Huisman’s portrayal is less arrogant and OTT than book Daario, but that’s a good thing. It make’s Dany’s attraction to him more credible IMO.
    It was exciting to hear Doran’s name. It tells me that the speculation that he might be cut out of the show is baseless. We will be going to Dorne next season!

    Cersei and Qyburn getting buddy, buddy… OM the old Gs and the new! We won’t be spared the horror of what those two get up to in season 5. That pleases me so much.

  154. Keratin
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    I liked how they worked in the theme from that one chapter where Jaime is looking through the White Book and then contemplates his own entry. Even if the inclusion of Joffrey in that scene means it doesn’t quite have the aspirational tone in had in the books.

    Great episode.

  155. KingJon
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    It’s about 10:30 on the East coast and HBO-Go is crashing like the Hindenberg. May their SOULS rest in peace.

  156. David The Grey
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: New Daario didn’t really have much to work with this episode

    After re-watching S3, old Daario grew on me. He was different-looking, different-sounding, exotic. New Daario is just more of the same (no slight to the actor intended). I think it might take a while for me to warm up to the new guy. Still, you gotta give him props for his botany.

    I’ll have to re-watch the episode again to see if I can find any nits, I really can’t think of any right now. Favorite scenes were Jaime telling Daddy “No.”, the Queen of Thorn’s reaction to Brienne, and how fast the Red Viper is with his dagger (awesome!). I also still love The Hound to death, and don’t think we’ll be hearing him refer to Arya as a “little bird” any time soon. (Wolf Bitch definitely fits, lol! Go Arya!!!!)

    As I ponder, I think I am very happy with the entire episode.

  157. Josh
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Gatorfisch: l scene with full frontal female nudity in it and two gay dudes

    No…one gay guy and one bis

    Funny full fontal female nudity and one man’s tit haha..This show!

  158. Friend of Fire
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    I loved it glad Game of Thrones is back

  159. Patty
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Sansa’s scene brought me to tears too. Am so enjoying Arya’s story line and well, things are going to get really interesting with all the characters. I just finished re-reading the books. Oh yea, I’ve been waiting a long time for this season.

  160. The Bastard
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    This show just keeps getting better and better.

    This is in Star Wars and Lord of the Rings territory right now. The sagas you share with your kids and grand kids (when they are of age).

  161. the north remembers
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    30 minutes to go!!

  162. KingJon
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    Spoiler: Arya will eventually kill Daenerys Targayen and take her place on the throne with Jon Snow as her King. May our Faceless Woman rule wisely.

  163. Tabes
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    Wow, I’m constantly amazed at how my ridiculous anticipation and expectations for a television show are constantly met and then some. I thought it was a top-notch season opener and my favorite since season 1. Definitely stepping it up in the production value and the show had a different feel to it to me, more epic or something I don’t know but it’s all good. It’s all part of the evolution of this masterpiece. The Viper is perfectly cast and it looks to me like an already stellar actor Peter Dinklage has stepped his game up even more. As for Daario I’m reserving my opinion until we see a bit more of him. Huisman is a good actor, definitely less cartoonish, I suspect he will make us forget about old Daario by season’s end. Have to re-watch as soon as possible, I always find it hard to totally process after the first viewing. This season is going to be the stuff of legend.

  164. JamesL
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Greg,

    Since when did it become a spoiler to discuss things that happened in an episode? That’s what these posts are for. Don’t read the comments if you don’t want to know.

  165. House Ray
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    Big setup for LS – good to see that will happen. Unsullied are gonna shit themselves as long as they do it right. Great to see the weapon that will kill the brat at the end.One more word out of your cunt mouth and I’ll have to eat all of the chickens… wonderful!Great setup – now time to run this bitch down the road at top speed!

  166. The Bastard
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    Can’t judge the new Daarrio Naharis after one episode. Let the character play out to see where it goes.

    I thought the actor who played Melisandre was horrible miscast during Season 2. Then she won me over in Season 3. I went back to watch Season 2 and I understood where she was going with the character much better. I am now a huge fan.

  167. Charles M
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    I also don’t like this new Daario. He looks weak. More like a sidekick comic relief than a warrior than can singlehandedly kill two people.

  168. Shan
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    OH ALSO THE THENNS ARE SO AWESOME LOVE THEM LOVE THEIR THEME SONG THEY R SO BADASS GAH

  169. Lady Brienne
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    Stupid Cersei making Jaime a useless metal hand. Why not a prosthetic that could double as a sword?

  170. Critical Geek
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    4 pages about Sir Duncan the Tall! :)

  171. Lady Brienne
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    The Bastard,

    Agree: I will have to see the new Daario more to be able to judge his performance. However, have to say that it is damn distracting to have another actor show up in the same role. Instead of thinking about the characters and the storyline, I was thinking about the actors, which is something you never want to do to viewers.

  172. ash
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    necklace – tears of Lys – wasn’t what I expected. I thought it was like a mesh/hairnet

    Thats what I remember from the book, but the necklace will work just as well.

    Loved this episode, nothing I didn’t like. They absolutely nailed that ending

  173. Patchy Face
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Really enjoyed the whole episode with one exception, the new Daario-Dany scenes. Thought that the lack of chemistry was much too obvious. I sure hope he grows on me but can’t see Dany being attracted to that guy. The rest of the Ep was so good.

  174. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Looks like I wasn’t the only to notice the improvement in Kit. I don’t know if his acting got better or if he was always good and the writing was lacking when it comes to Jon. Either way, I was impressed.

    I agree with whoever said Sibel Kilkeli improved. I was never one of the people who disliked show-Shae and think she’s done a fine acting job, but this was the first time she really held her own with Peter Dinklage.

    I really want to be BFFs with Rory McCann. Maisie Williams deserves an Emmy nomination for this episode alone.

  175. The Bastard
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Critical Geek:
    4 pages about Sir Duncan the Tall! :)

    There was a lot of “book” backstory in this one episode then any other episode I can think of.

    The Red Viper went into detail about the sacking of Kings Landing. They talked about the former Commanders of the Kings Guard. I loved it.

  176. Gatorfisch
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Critical Geek:
    4 pages about Sir Duncan the Tall! :)

    Critical Geek:
    4 pages about Sir Duncan the Tall! :)

    Critical Geek:
    4 pages about Sir Duncan the Tall! :)

    Dunk!!!!!!

  177. Pyrrhus
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    Stannis!

    Where are you? :_(

  178. King of the Ashes
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    can we all give it up for Sophie’s and Masie’s performances tonight? to be in the midst of some of the worlds most renowned actors and to still be able to stand out and deliver such great performances as young actors is beyond commendable… Awesome job ladies.

  179. The Bastard
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger:
    Looks like I wasn’t the only to notice the improvement in Kit.I don’t know if his acting got better or if he was always good and the writing was lacking when it comes to Jon.Either way, I was impressed.

    I agree with whoever said Sibel Kilkeli improved.I was never one of the people who disliked show-Shae and think she’s done a fine acting job, but this was the first time she really held her own with Peter Dinklage.

    I really want to be BFFs with Rory McCann.Maisie Williams deserves an Emmy nomination for this episode alone.

    I don’t think it was improved acting. I think he is transitioning his character from timid follower to potential strong leader. He has played both perfectly.

  180. Leo
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    4 things I noticed from next week’s preview:


    -Melisandre talking to Shireen
    -The best close-up shot of Tommen yet
    -Shae slapping Bronn
    -The dragon in KL must be Bran’s vision

  181. Lady Brienne
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Keratin,

    I liked that detail, too. It’s hard to adapt a scene from a novel that involves a character thinking about something, but they managed to make it part of the drama, so it worked. Now I am hoping that Jaime really does get to do something to redeem himself and earn an entry in the book.

  182. Polish
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Makes sense now why GRRM showed D&D that Arya chapter from WoW (lots of acronyms.. I know). She gave Polliver the same sort of speech she gave to Raff in that chapter. Polliver in the show is responsible for doing what Raff did in the book

  183. Adrian
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Most people complaining were just the people who decided in their heads that he was an Arab or something, and therefore decreed that it must be so, and that George R.R. Martin was in fact wrong about the character he wrote, and how the series was being “whitewashed” because “THE MARTELLS ARE NOT WHITE!”

    So just racists masquerading as supremely tolerant people, really.

  184. Currawong
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    Lady Brienne:
    Stupid Cersei making Jaime a useless metal hand. Why not a prosthetic that could double as a sword?

    Why would you expect Cersei to do that, when even Jaime didn’t do that in the books? He ordered a glamorous replacement hand, one that was at least designed to hold a wine goblet. Apart from having Cersei order it, the hand seems to be exactly as it was in the book.

  185. The Spider
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    The desecration of Ice, the Vipers Arrival , Dragons , The White Book , Needle it was all epic awesome episode ! 9/10

  186. Lady Brienne
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    The Bastard,

    Nominate Maisy? Yes! Hard to believe this is her first real role.

  187. Jospeh
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    Did I mishear or did Brienne pray to the Old Gods during her scene early on? Tarth worships the Seven right?

  188. Greenjones
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Kyle,

    I’m pretty sure that that extra also appeared in season 1 in a few scenes and in season 3 at Sansa’s wedding.

  189. Lady Brienne
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    The Bastard,

    about the backstory: I think the writers are getting a better hang of how to condense material from the book. Some viewers are complaining that this episode wasn’t “enough.” I thought it fulfilled its purpose admirably: To set up the entire forthcoming season and make us want to watch more….I read all the books, and to be honest, the 18 narrative points of view are overwhelming. I can’t imagine what it must be like to have to edit the novels down into a cohesive dramatic storyline.

  190. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    Jospeh,

    I believe she said “all of the gods.”

  191. Gatorfisch
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    Adrian:
    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Most people complaining were just the people who decided in their heads that he was an Arab or something, and therefore decreed that it must be so, and that George R.R. Martin was in fact wrong about the character he wrote, and how the series was being “whitewashed” because “THE MARTELLS ARE NOT WHITE!”

    So just racists masquerading as supremely tolerant people, really.

    Right?! Martin himself said he based Dorne after the people of the Iberian peninsula…and Pedro exceeded my expectations. My unsullied husband doesn’t understand why I am so excited…I’ve only told him that Oberyn is a bad ass and this guy is totally nailing it so far.

  192. Lefty
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    Why is Winterfell still burning?
    Can we do something about that?

    Really enjoyed the Magnar.

  193. The Spider
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    The destruction of Ice, the Vipers Arrival , Dragons , The White Book , Needle it was all epic awesome episode ! 9/10

  194. The Spider
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    The Swords,the Vipers Arrival , Dragons , The White Book , Needle it was all epic awesome episode ! 9/10

  195. Lady Sarah
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    Not going to lie, I nerdgasmed when Dontos gave Sansa the necklace. I don’t care that it wasn’t a hair net.

  196. House Mormont
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    Who was the guy who saw the premier last week and said he hated one scene?

    Was it the one with Styr? That was my only problem with this otherwise beautiful episode

  197. Yago
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Not to be that guy, but if WinterPhil was King of WiC still, there would have been a review thread up by now!

  198. Maxwell James
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    So now it can be said: having Arya kill Polliver instead of the Tickler was smart.

    Anyway, good episode.

  199. Gatorfisch
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    Lady Sarah,

    As did I…as did I.

  200. Lady Sarah
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    And yeah, loved the mention of Duncan the Tall! :) :) :)

  201. Traveling Targaryen
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Amazing premiere! (What’s even more amazing is that I’ve spelled the word “premiere” correctly four times in the past hour). Loved Pascal’s portrayal of Oberyn (and damn that brothel scene was hot), Dany’s dragon troubles, Olenna’s amazement of Brienne, and Arya’s badassery. Solid episode, but I believe next week will be even better. Encore here we come!

  202. Lady Sarah
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    Traveling Targaryen,

    Pedro is amazing as Oberyn! They definitely cast that character perfectly.

  203. Traveling Targaryen
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    Also, the pre-opening-credits scene gave me flashbacks to “Return of the King” for some reason. Loved it! Dreadfort and Meereen on the map! Awesome additions.

  204. Dorne tootin
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Pedro,

    Amen!

  205. Lady Sarah
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Gatorfisch,

    Oh good, it wasn’t just me! My poor roommate has no idea why…ha ha!

  206. Dorne tootin
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    Lady Sarah:
    Not going to lie, I nerdgasmed when Dontos gave Sansa the necklace. I don’t care that it wasn’t a hair net.

    This, this, THIS!!!! Wooo

  207. Mariamb
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    Pedro was just amazing! Loved Olenna’s interaction with Brienne. (Of course she appreciates her.) Maisie and Sophie prove once again that they have long careers ahead of them. Rory was terrific; he doesn’t receive enough accolades for his performance.

    It was damn close to perfect.

  208. The Bastard
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:11 pm | Permalink

    This show has ruined almost all other television shows and movies for me. Damn you GRRM and D&D. Everything in the show makes sense. The characters have a logical story arcs.

    Tried watching Captain America two nights ago. Good movie. The entire time I was shaking my head. Captain America already knows Bruce Banner from which we saw in the The Avengers. Why not just phone him to ask for help? Completely illogical.

    Game of Thrones has me thinking like this for all other sagas now. That wouldn’t happen in GOT. It has ruined me.

  209. Traveling Targaryen
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    Lady Sarah:
    Traveling Targaryen,

    Pedro is amazing as Oberyn! They definitely cast that character perfectly.

    Lady Sarah,

    I totally agree! His introductory scene was amazing, and he totally captures the character perfectly.

  210. Jospeh
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    That sounds about right actually. After the whole mess with Robb being married under the seven another blatant mistake like that was getting me worried.

    Solid opener though, absolutely loved that final scene with Arya even if she didn’t have the same kill speech. Maisie is awesome and made that Lommy homage just as awesome.

    Don’t mess with Oberyn, he’ll fuck you up. Reminded me of Yoren’s ‘…and there’s nobody around here who knows how to unnick it” scene beginning of series 2

    Nice to see that Slynt is still a snivelling toad at the wall and that Aemon sees more than anyone despite being blind

    Didn’t get much from Dany’s scenes other than how awesome the dragons now look and the much improved Daario. My prediction of Grey Worm having a thing for Missendei seems to be happening too, bit cautious of that right now.

    Tyrion’s awkward brunch with Sansa was a nice scene, leading on to the all important Giver of Gifts Ser Dontos. They’re odd looking amethysts but that’s just a minor quibble.

    Solid episode for the series premiere, hope the events of next week don’t lead to any slump afterwards

  211. Guy
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    Well that was a damn fine episode! Clearly I should make a tradition of drinking genuine dornish (cheapest) wine every week! I should also make a tradition of watching both showings each Sunday, the winteriscoming community is depending on me to represent them!!! Lord I’m wasted…. but I still mean every word

  212. Yago
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    The Bastard,

    Still plenty of other strong shows out there. Only of those still running: True Detective, Boardwalk Empire, Justified, The Americans, Hannibal

  213. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    It was nice that they kept the part with Pod naming Dornish sigils. The writers always find little ways to provide fan service to book readers.

  214. Traveling Targaryen
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    Lady Sarah,

    Agreed, agreed. The Lion is about to be played by the Rose…

  215. Alan
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    Maxwell James:
    So now it can be said: having Arya kill Polliver instead of the Tickler was smart.

    Anyway, good episode.

    Remember when folks panicked that this scene would never happen?

  216. Jen@House Stark
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar:
    Holy Crap! Needle! Red Viper! ARGGGGGGGGGGGH! Got to watch it again!

    I miss you, woman :cry: Arya gets her needle back, thank the Seven, Ellaria is wonderful and totally upstaged the Viper, IMO, chickens, and a pony, the Thenns scared the shan out of me, but my blue rose stole it for me, thank you D&D for throwing us that bone.

  217. House Nieder
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    I haven’t had time to read through all of the comments, plan to do so later. But until then…

    I feel like Lady Stoneheart and more from Dorne in following seasons has all but been confirmed with tonight’s episode. Referencing Catelyn in the river would be such a trolling to book readers. Just my two sense! They are protraying Arya and Oberyn more perfectly than I could have possibly imagined. Dontos!!!! And wow Ice being reforged hit me really hard.

  218. House Mormont
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    DID ANYONE NOTICE THAT THE LAST TWO SCENES ARE THE STARK GIRLS GETTING THEIR MURDER WEAPONS, RIGHT AFTER ANOTHER
    SANSA GETS HER NECKLACE
    ARYA GETS NEEDLE

    also hearing Oberyn say Targaryen is possibly the hottest thing I’ve ever witnessed

    and the cold open was perfect, so cinematic! I’m a really big fan of D&D as directors now

    Interesting change to make Tyrion not want to have sex in a brothel or with Shae, but on the other hand I don’t care it serves a purpose

  219. Somuchforoldtown
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:21 pm | Permalink

    Tywin, Bronn, the Hound all of them absolutely bad ass. Sansa and that Turkish whore Shae just as awful in the show as ever. The dwarf should throw both of them over the battlements of Kings Landing. The scenes in the east were a waste of screen time, per usual. But, thankfully, they book-ended the Ep with scenes involving two of the show’s very best actors.

  220. House Mormont
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark: , but my blue rose stole it for me, thank you D&D for throwing us that bone.

      

    never caught that one! Blue roses mean Targaryen love

  221. House Mormont
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    I also loved Jon standing up against Janos Slynt and destroying him, leaving Alliser without a bad word to say and getting Aemon’s vote of confidence

    He has a lot more conviction than book Jon ever did, thanks to being aged up, and I’m thankful for it

    Also, while i’m on the compliments, I loved the scenery of where Ygritte was

  222. Queenofthorns
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    Great ep! Only thing that took me out of it was the Thenns. ME CANNIBAL ME SUPERDUPER EVUUL! Seemed cheesy.

    Emilia and kit were both great this ep. I feel like Emilia does something a lot of people miss – when she’s doing her command voice it’s clear she is acting – just like the character would be. She only seems natural during moments of uncertainty and softness (like her dragons scaring her and daario touching her with the flowers despite her efforts to pretend she didn’t care. Likewise with Jon, kit has him finally not having to act – finally he can stand up for the truth, do what he knows is right.

    Anyway great ep, Oberon was lots of fun. :)

  223. Turncloak
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    I must say, I was very impressed by Kit Harrington in this episode. Maybe it’s because his Jon SNow has finally stopped being mopy

  224. dan
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    Why for the love of the Gods why? They just had to fuck up my favorite scene in the whole books, Jaime with the White Book. F___ing seriously! That is the scene that made him my favorite character ever. When he realizes that he is a shit and needs to change.

  225. Greyscale FTW
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:35 pm | Permalink

    Two kills for Arya! Long live Lommy! Needle!

    Ser Duncan the Tall!

    A necklace instead of a hairnet? Yeah, Dontos!

  226. The Bastard
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

    dan:
    Why for the love of the Gods why?They just had to fuck up my favorite scene in the whole books, Jaime with the White Book.F___ing seriously!That is the scene that made him my favorite character ever.When he realizes that he is a shit and needs to change.

    I read that D&D knew that “dan” from WiC website loved that scene so much and they wanted to personally mess with him.

    What options did they have? Most of those scenes from the book have no dialogue. Most of it is internal thoughts. They did a fantastic job of bringing it to the screen.

  227. Venger
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

    “U gonna die for those chickens?”
    -”Somebody’s going to.”
    Outstanding!
    Epic season on the rise. I’m excited for anyone who hasn’t read the books to experience what is coming.

  228. Adrian
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    Is there a reason behind the new Kingsguard armor? I thought maybe Jaime just had special Lord Commander armor but Trant has it too.

    I DEMAND ANSWERS.

  229. Shaz
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    Sophie and Maisie were brilliant once again. Pedro’s portrayal of Oberyn is already blowing my mind, love that we got some exposition about Elia! Ellaria…wow, Indira is amazing. Great introductory episode, next week will be fire!!

  230. Ashara D
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:42 pm | Permalink

    So…no one else disliked the Daario v Grey Worm pissing contest scene? The multiple mentions of Unsullied “riders?” Illogical and yanked me right out of the story.

    Loved everything else. Finally, we have DORNE! Especially loved the references to Rheagar’s motivations, Ser Arthur Dayne, and a BLUE ROSE! A powerful healing tea made from them. Hmmmm…

    Can’t wait for next week: the hunt, Stannis, and the wedding!!!

    Cheers everyone! Welcome back!!

  231. House Mormont
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:42 pm | Permalink

    Queenofthorns: Great ep! Only thing that took me out of it was the Thenns. ME CANNIBAL ME SUPERDUPER EVUUL! Seemed cheesy.

    I thought so too, especially when they’re supposed to be the sophisticated wildings, but it’s too beautiful a night to complain about what I just witnessed

  232. Polish
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    The Bastard: I read that D&D knew that “dan” from WiC website loved that scene so much and they wanted to personally mess with him.

    What options did they have?Most of those scenes from the book have no dialogue.Most of it is internal thoughts.They did a fantastic job of bringing it to the screen.

    Are previews spoilers? : I doubt this is the last scene with the book. previews had a shot of Jaime with the book that was from a different angle and looked to be from a different scene. Granted, maybe it was just an unused shot from this scene (they used a different “the war’s not won”) than from the previews, but I still think it was another book scene. In my mind, this was setting up the more significant one.

  233. Onion Knight
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:46 pm | Permalink

    Anyone watch the “What the Flick?!” reviews? They were supposed to be doing it live tonight but nothing is on their site. Did anyone see it while the show was on?

  234. Abyss
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    Lady Brienne,

    Because it simple wouldn’t work. Fighting with something in your hand is totally different from fighting with something as your hand. Besides, a prosthetic would never been able to take the blows that came with an actual sword fight.

  235. cosca
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Ashara D,

    How is an unsullied riding “illogical”. They’re human beings, they can learn to ride horses.

  236. wizardeyes
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber,

    Yeah that’s promising for getting Doran next season. In season 3 they name-checked Mace and now we have him…

  237. Tony
    Posted April 6, 2014 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Gatorfisch:

    Anyone noticed Joffrey mentioned Arthur Dayne BEFORE Duncan while Duncan lived earlier and should have been before Arthur since Joffrey was going forward not back ;)
    Terrible terrible oversight… Completely ruined the episode for me!

    Nah just kidding ;) Great premiere! That was a minor lapse though!

  238. Traveling Targaryen
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    KG,

    haha I would have to agree. Her look of awe was most definitely a highlight. I cannot wait to see her in next week’s episode.

  239. gisizzlah
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    Uberstellar,

    I couldnt belive it!!! to me thats a spoiler for book readers… though they allude to it several times in the book ….but to outright say it?? ugh…

  240. Reza
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    It was a GREAT episode! Very promising! WOW the ending was awesome!

  241. Reza
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Onion Knight,

    I always watch them and TYT! I’m heading over there now but probably they will upload it tomorrow?!

  242. Kyrion
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    Doran is in(WHICH IS AMAZING, MY FAVORITE PRINCE/Lord!!!), which means Arianne is in

    Its Victarion and Euron that we have to worry about. We have no namedrops of them, though Tyrion did say “uncles” in season 1 so I guess there must be atleast 2 lol

  243. Don't care
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    Kit Harington was the best actor in the episode. Followed closely by Rory.

  244. Don't care
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    House Mormont: I thought so too, especially when they’re supposed to be the sophisticated wildings, but it’s too beautiful a night to complain about what I just witnessed

    Thenns. I fucking hate Thenns.

    Those Thenns were awesome. We need some scary ass baddies for the battle.

  245. Arthur
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    Great premier!

    Haven’t read all the comments yet but damn that Arya and The Hound scene at the end was definitely the best scene of the episode, IMO.

    One thing I wanted to mention, if noone has yet, is The Hound fight sequence was really amazing and had some top notch choreography.

    If this is a hint for the type of fight sequences to come, we should all be very very happy campers!

  246. tysnow
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    gswelcome,

    Speak for yourself, I prefer this version of Arya at the inn, it’s far more poignant and brutal than the book version.

  247. EverydayImHodoring
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    The Bastard:
    Tried watching Captain America two nights ago.Good movie. The entire time I was shaking my head. Captain America already knows Bruce Banner from which we saw in the The Avengers.Why not just phone him to ask for help? Completely illogical.

    Because of the same reason he doesn’t call him up in the comics…

  248. ebevan91
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:07 am | Permalink

    Greg: You act as if this is uncommon.

    Yeah Rickon did the same thing in “The Rains of Castamere” last season. Spoke more in 5 minutes than the previous 28 and a half episodes.

  249. Steel_Wind
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    That was excellent. And that’s from a hardcore book fan.

    Moreover, almost every bit of it was a true adaptation. Those scenes that approximated those in the book, were all quite different.

    But it all rang true, every bit. And the made up stuff was all fine with me. Every bit, save the Thenns; and on that score, I’m prepared to cut D&D some slack.

    D&D are getting damned good at this! This was my favorite episode 1 yet.

    Loved the Hound. Rory was awesome. VERY happy fan tonight.

  250. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    Don’t care: Thenns. I fucking hate Thenns.

    Those Thenns were awesome. We need some scary ass baddies for the battle.

    That was probably the logic. They wanted to make the prospect of a wildling attack even more scary and intense.
    It does mean that if they include Sigorn they need to establish him as nicer than the average Thenn so the audience will be OK with the marriage to Alys. Otherwise, I was all right with the change.

  251. Onion Knight
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    Reza: Onion

    Usually its the next day, but What the Flick!? said on their site they were doing it live for like the last three weeks, just seems weird that nothing is coming up.

  252. MRR
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    JamesL:
    Greg,

    Since when did it become a spoiler to discuss things that happened in an episode?That’s what these posts are for.Don’t read the comments if you don’t want to know.

    The post he was replying to had book-spoilers that haven’t happened on the show yet. Specifically, a reference to Sansa’s necklace that has yet to be revealed. I do think the reaction was a bit strong, but the post was spoilery.

  253. Enfield
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    Onion Knight,

    It just went up, but it is different people on it. No Cenk Uygur or Ben Mankiewicz. Not a big fan of it, hopefully they’ll bring the old format back.

  254. EverydayImHodoring
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:20 am | Permalink

    dan:
    Why for the love of the Gods why?They just had to fuck up my favorite scene in the whole books, Jaime with the White Book.F___ing seriously!That is the scene that made him my favorite character ever.When he realizes that he is a shit and needs to change.

    I dunno, as a non-book reader, that’s exactly what I got from the scene. *shrugs*

  255. beewulf
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    Prince Rhaegar is slowly making it into the plot. Joffrey mentioning him in the last episode last year and now the mention this episode.

    When do we get to see the Lyanna/Rhaegar flashbacks?

    Uberstellar:
    Book fans! Did you all gasp at the line she married Rhaegar and he left her for another woman as loud as I did?!

  256. Anzah
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    I kind of like how we thought this episode was about the Two Swords Tywin gets made – Oathkeeper & Widow’s Wail.
    But really, the episode is book-ended by the Stark swords. Ice & Needle.

  257. Thoros
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    The night is dark and full of terrors.

    Ice being melted…Sad but a powerful way to bring things back into the realm. I loved the choice.

    Jaime now having one hand and no family…that burned.

    Oberyn is fantastic. Great job of introducing such an important character. The power that they have given him so early on excites me. Hellllllloooooo Ellaria Sand! Meow 8P

    Poor Tyrion. First the new visitors, then Bronn, then Oberyn, then Sansa, then Shae….couldn’t catch a break this episode with anyone. Especially that nosy good for nothing spy.

    The dragons are big and scary, especially when they bark at Dany.

    The humor with New Daario and Grey Worm. It was a solid way to introduce new Daario. I think I like him better. Dosen’t seem like such a sleaze.

    Poor Sansa. Don’t want to eat nothing. Don’t want to sleep. Don’t Pray. Don’t want to talk to no one.

    Jaime looks like he is about to pimp slap everyone turning their back on him with that hand that took a few days…hours… to fine craft. Pycelle smells like a cat. Cersei is drinking more but brother loving less. For once in his life Jaime was told by a woman he took too long.

    I’m so happy that finally we see one of our favorite archers making their own arrows. Thank you Yigrette only to be ruined by the approach of the Thens. I hate them because Tormund Giantsbane hates them. The Magnar of Thens looks bad ass though. Mmm Cannibals.

    The archers at the wall are doing well…and surprisingly Jon Snow is too….he recovered easy….

    Allister Thorne, Janos Slynt, and Maester Aemon are back! Allister still hates Jon, Janos gets too excited about wanting to execute Jon, and Maester Aemon still has more unsaid power than Thorne. After all he grew up in kings landing.

    Didn’t need that 51st name day necklace. And she is back, the Queen of Thorns. :D So badass.

    Brienne and Margery get to reconnect and discuss Renly.

    Jaime pimp slaps Ser Meryn, Joff Pimp slaps Jaime, and we get a SER DUNCAN THE TALL reference! I was quite excited about this. If you haven’t read the Dunk and Egg books…..DO IT NOW.

    Daario gets some flirting in with Dany. The strategy of flowers and the people. He is started growing on me. As he is my favorite character in Essos it’s important for me to approve. Then the unfriendly street signs. YIKES. 164 perfectly good miles ruined by terrible taste.

    Brienne keeps Jaime in check. I like this scene because it brings them back together in KL. She schools him by asking why he thinks she’ll be safe in KL. And then he rebuts with thinking she’s part of the family.

    Sansa almost becomes the victim of an alfred hitchcock moment….but its just Ser Drunktos. Great exchange. Finally we see Sansa smile. Poor Dantos…poor Sansa.

    Then comes the great climax to the episode. The destroyed river lands. Arya wants a pony for her next name day. The hound is broke because “he’s not very smart.” The Hound is taking her to The Vale. Then in a very high tension scene (it was wellll done) they ruin a familiar Lannister face’s day along with his band of friendly gentlemen.

    I thought this was the best part of the episode.

    All in all I felt that the episode was well written and produced. Very high production quality and it flowed well.

  258. tysnow
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    No one mentioned the poor dead crucified slave girl, that fore finger cryptically pointing to Mereen was sooo chilling. It was a scene that really struck home for me. Poor Ser Jaime, her really got the shaft this episode, everyone dressed him down; and damn, Joff’s and Cersei’s were so brutal. I really think they are building for a forced assault in the Sept, Jaime getting back are her and Joff (wink) for treating him this way.
    Hands down though Oberyn and team Hound/Direwolf the stone cold killers won this episode, if the other scenes sucked, I still would have loved it all.

  259. Violentos
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    Great episode. I was hoping that Oberyn Martell would be fantastic, and for the most part he was, though not quite how I imagined.

    I really do dislike that they switched actors for Daario though. I actually did like old Daario. This new one just isn’t as pleasing to the eye and he doesn’t exude as much confidence, which I think makes Dani’s growing infatuation with him a little less believable now.

    The Thenns were done very well! Total badasses! They had to find someone that made even Tormund Giantsbane uncomfortable. Not an easy task.

    Loving all of the scenes with the Hound! He’s a fantastic character and a great actor with great lines and great fight scenes. What’s not to love?

  260. UtherGreenShirt
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    we havent seen Joseph Gnatt (sic) yet…. does that mean he is CHs?

  261. Phil
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    so hopefully next episode with have Dontos meeting Sansa again and telling her he’s gonna get her out of KL during the wedding. They might have to mention Littlefinger as being a part of the escape or else it won’t make too much sense since we haven’t had the whole Florian thing, but they need at least a scene of him telling her to leave during the wedding, not sure how they’re just gonna spirit her away otherwise.

  262. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    UtherGreenShirt,

    He was the dude with the bird on his shoulder. I believe he is a warg too, as Styr looked to him when Tormund asked him how they found them.

  263. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:38 am | Permalink

    Phil,

    I’m pretty sure he won’t inform her of an escape attempt beforehand. They are going for surprise with the Littlefinger reveal.

  264. sig79
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    This episode was so awesome. Had so many great scenes. They really didn’t waste any second of this episode on anything that wouldn’t lead up to future events. Such a great script. I was kind of surprised though that the hound didn’t seem to get badly injured at the fight at the inn as he did in the books. Makes me wonder how that’s going to play out with him eventually getting mortally wounded before Arya takes off to Braavos.

  265. Red Monk
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    Oberyn and Bron. real recognize real. “We need a few more girls” Bron says yes and Tyrion says no. love it.

  266. loco73
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    Great opener! I always like that the show sets it’s own tone and does what is right, not trying to “upend” itself in anyway. The story progresses as it should and has to and so are the characters. I loved, loved the whole bit with Ice and the sad remnant of Grey Wind…though it crushes my heart to see the Starks reduced to pretty much nothing…but they got some revenge tonight!

    Pedro Pascal and Indira Varma as Oberyn and Elaria were the absolute jewels of this episode. I really liked Jamie and Tyrion and how wearing the mantle the Lannister name has become a burden they are less and less willing to wear. Loved Arya and the Hound…and Sansa who doesn’t get enough credit for her inner strength!

    Me likeeee the new Daario Naharis, though I liked Ed Skrein as old Daario also!!!! Uhh and Jon! He is always one of my favourites inspite of all the people here and elsewhere always pilling on Kit Harrington for whatever reason…like someone stepped on their heads and reduced their IQ’s to that of pond scum…

    Uhh and Dany and her children…err…dragons…err…monsters to be!!! What Jorah told her is soo point ant and to the point as Drogon almost bit her hand off…yet Dany is still soo fierce…but Daario seems to be having the desired effect on her!

    However most of all, I love this show because it does not cater to every nitwit and moron who have some stick up their asses and some mentally challenged reason to nitpick on every fucking detail to such a nauseating level that “it throws them off”…hey there is always the off button on the TV set…or change the goddamn channel…and stop your bitching and moaning…There is always room for criticism and debate, but there is also a time when all that turns to shit in the form of a wet brainfart…

    At the same time I was also happy to watch two new shows with a LOT of promise. One was AMC’s new revolutionary period piece “Turn” and the other was the hilarious “Silicon Valley” from the visionary mind of Mike Judge… A good night all in all with “Game Of Thrones” to usher in another tremendous season!

  267. EverydayImHodoring
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    loco73:
    However most of all, I love this show because it does not cater to ever nitwit and moron who have some stick up their asses and some mentally challenged reason to nitpick on every fucking detail to such a nauseating level that “it throws them off”…hey there is always the off button on the TV set…or change the goddamn channel…and stop your bitching and moaning…There is always room for criticism and debate, but there is always also a time when all that turns to shit in the form of a wet brainfart…

    Some have been doing it for almost 4 seasons now…

  268. Reza
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    Onion Knight,

    It is actually already up there! But no Cenk, Ben or Ana! wasnt too bad though!

  269. UtherGreenShirt
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:48 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    ahhhh missed him there too quick and bad eyes :) thanks

  270. Josh
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    Polish: Are previews spoilers? : I doubt this is the last scene with the book.previews had a shot of Jaime with the book that was from a different angle and looked to be from a different scene.Granted, maybe it was just an unused shot from this scene (they used a different “the war’s not won”) than from the previews, but I still think it was another book scene.In my mind, this was setting up the more significant one.

    Plus, I thought the way Jaime looked down at the book was pretty telling. He’s in no way pleased with his accomplishments.

  271. Greenjones
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    Reza,

    I didn’t know Matt Atchity even watched GoT but it turns out that not only does he, he’s also Sullied. Cool guy Matt Atchity.

  272. El Beto
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    Ser Duncan the Tall… nice gesture guys

  273. Zack
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    No criticisms from me.

    I’ve got praise for Kit, even. Good start for him this year.

    But really…fucking good episode. My personal highlights:

    1-That cold open. So many feelings
    2-Oberyn! Holy shit. Good casting here, good writing. Love it and can’t wait for more
    3-I’m really liking Noble Jaime. His scenes with Tywin, Cersei, and then Brienne. Wonderful.
    4-Sophie Turner, you are fantastic. Can’t wait for more Sansa stuff!
    5-And finally, that last scene!!!! AAAAAAHHHH FUCK YOU POLLIVER!!!! Maisie and Rory are the BEST.

    What a start to the season. Kudos to everyone.

  274. Joh
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    This is my favorite episode of the series so far. Not a single misstep.

    Gods, that opening! When the strings start playing, and we see Tywin’s sillhouette…

    And the ending! The burning Riverlands, the look on Arya’s face as she realizes what she can learn from The Hound…

    Not to mention “I’m going to have to eat every chicken in this room”

    The CGI dragons look unbelievably good. I don’t say that lightly. Usually I find CGI creatures very…uncanny valley. But these dragons are so lifelike.

    So, after all of the recent talk on this blog about the intricate costuming, I am wondering if anyone noticed Missandei’s costume and hairtyle? Her silk cloak looks very much like a cocoon to me, and the hair braided in rings like curled antennae. The overall effect is of a butterfly starting to emerge, the wings still folded.

    Very appropriate for a girl from Naath, the Isle of Butterflies. :)

    I don’t think they’ve ever mentioned her birthplace on the show, and it got very little mention in the books as well. Naath is pretty mysterious, and it doesn’t seem to tie in to the greater storyline in any way.

    Still, I liked the subtle reference. :)

  275. Sam
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    no one has mentioned the EXPLICIT shout-out that D&D gave to this idea:

    http://deadshirt.net/2013/07/04/citation-needed-omar-and-the-hound/

    when they put into the mouth of the hound the immortal words:

    “a man’s got to have a code.”

  276. Greyscale FTW
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:25 am | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger:
    It does mean that if they include Sigorn they need to establish him as nicer than the average Thenn so the audience will be OK with the marriage to Alys.

    That was funny.

    “What did you have for lunch?”
    “My wife.”

    I doubt that the Alys storyline we know will ever see the light of day now (at least regarding the Thenn). I wonder who Val will get to retrieve now (if Val is even seen in S5)?

    But the Thenn as cannibals? Wow, they are switching things up a bit. Interesting that they are mixing the Thenn with supposed Skaagos stuff. Then again, in the show last season, Rickon & Osha were off to Last Hearth, not Skaagos, so no Skaagosi.

  277. Steel_Wind
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:28 am | Permalink

    sig79:
    This episode was so awesome. Had so many great scenes. They really didn’t waste any second of this episode on anything that wouldn’t lead up to future events. Such a great script. I was kind of surprised though that the hound didn’t seem to get badly injured at the fight at the inn as he did in the books. Makes me wonder how that’s going to play out with him eventually getting mortally wounded before Arya takes off to Braavos.

    Honestly? I don’t think that the Hound is going to survive Season 4. I mean, for real. I think Rory is already looking for work.

  278. Lord Stannis's Soul
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:29 am | Permalink

    Uberstellar:
    Book fans! Did you all gasp at the line she married Rhaegar and he left her for another woman as loud as I did?!

    I totally gasped out loud. I thought I was the only one.

  279. herb derb
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    Interesting to get a little flavor from the Mercy preview chapter in that Arya scene

  280. Bittersteel
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:36 am | Permalink

    Damn great episode, the Viper was amazing. His scene with Tyrion where he talks about the sack was fantastic. And speaking of that did they just decide to open the floodgates with back story. The Doom, Dunk, Arthur Dayne and the Kingswood brotherhood. I hope we get Jamie telling the story about squiring for Dayne and the “You shall have it ser” line.

    Loved Dany getting the not blue winter rose.

  281. Nc
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:37 am | Permalink

    Leo,

    Where can I watch the preview?!

  282. Greyscale FTW
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:42 am | Permalink

    Lord Stannis’s Soul: I totally gasped out loud. I thought I was the only one.

    +1 totally. After that “R + ?” comment and the blue rose comment (it is for healing!), I was expecting folks to start talking about promises kept! Hoping for a Bran vision soon!

  283. NymArya Stark
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:46 am | Permalink

    Bittersteel: I hope we get Jamie telling the story about squiring for Dayne and the “You shall have it ser” line.

    Except that he didn’t squire for Dayne in the show, he squired for Selmy…

  284. Winter Rose
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    Bittersteel:
    Damn great episode, the Viper was amazing. His scene with Tyrion where he talks about the sack was fantastic. And speaking of that did they just decide to open the floodgates with back story. The Doom, Dunk, Arthur Dayne and the Kingswood brotherhood. I hope we get Jamie telling the story about squiring for Dayne and the “You shall have it ser” line.

    Loved Dany getting the not blue winter rose.

    I think they changed that for Jamie squiring for Ser Barristan. But, yeah, I was all giddy when I heard “Ser Arthur Dayne”! Was it the first time they mentioned him in the show? Oh, and the Doom, Duncan, and “left her for another woman” makes me hope they will dig deeper in backstory in this season and the ones to follow!

  285. KG
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    dan,

    Because if they did it like in the book, it would have been a ten minute scene of him staring at a book.

  286. Doritos
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:49 am | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZd7okKkGmI

    Preview for next episode.
    Haven’t watched this one but I’m already more excited for the next one.

  287. WildSeed
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:59 am | Permalink

    Lyanna_Targaryen,

    hear hear ! PST puts us behind many in the US_ EST, but my angst is slowly dissipating. The ninth hour approaches ! California greets the new season!

  288. WildSeed
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:05 am | Permalink

    Winter Rose,

    the mention did honor to the ASOIAF story, overall. Viewers won’t find remiss the altered squire story, but since Dayne’s history was maintained, why change Jaime’s connection to him ? Perhaps it served better to switch for Selmy because he’s stuff of legend, and living.

  289. Blourd
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:09 am | Permalink

    Red Monk:
    Oberyn and Bron. real recognize real. “We need a few more girls” Bron says yes and Tyrion says no. love it.

    One of those little moments that you had to pay close attention to catch. Wonderful.

  290. King of the Ashes
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:12 am | Permalink

    my favorite 2 swords in the episode were definitely Arya and the Hound

  291. WildSeed
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:15 am | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Its okay to be euphoric, it truly was a fine premiere for season 4. I found myself thinking about the episode long after it ended ( here on the US west coast ). The pace was impressive, as were the settings, script, costuming, etc. This was definitely a “chicken sunday and pigeon pie ” sort of evening. ( :

  292. Meg
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:18 am | Permalink

    James Hibberd’s review of the ep is hilarious!!

    And geez, could Alan Seipenwall’s review be any more boring. It’s like he just recaps the episode. Shame, since he’s one of the few unsullied critics left…

  293. John-Michael
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:20 am | Permalink

    A few late observations for the night. How amazing was the theme at the end of the episode? The delays in the arrangement made it sound…. haunting? Also, You raped her. You murdered her. You killed her children. Can you imagine how awesome that is going to be with our shows Red Viper? Major chills already.

  294. KG
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:20 am | Permalink

    P. S. I want my “I called it” brownie points.

    Practically the first thing Dany says? “Where’s Daario?” :D

    Thoros:
    It was a solid way to introduce new Daario. I think I like him better

  295. Ulf
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:29 am | Permalink

    Am Ithe only one who thought the episode sucked?

  296. King of the Ashes
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:30 am | Permalink

    Ulf:
    Am Ithe only one who thought the episode sucked?

    yes.

  297. Jimbo
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:32 am | Permalink

    Woke up, watched Game of Thrones now gotta go to work! :(

    What a great start to this season! Red Viper is awesome! Great to see them get back to so many characters and stories! :) Next week can’t come soon enough!! :)

  298. FamousAmazingGuy
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:33 am | Permalink

    I wasn’t thrilled about the direction tonight. It kinda reminded me of an episode of Dallas.

    Maester Aemon was the highlight for me.

  299. cosca
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:35 am | Permalink

    Just re-watched the fight at the Inn. Really just amazing. The Hound killing it, such great dialogue. The tension during the buildup is incredible, the fight was spectacularly brutal (the part where the Hound stabs the guy in the face with his own dagger especially) and really well choreographed. And of course Polliver’s ignoble and poetic end. One of my favourite scenes the shows ever done, and easily the best fight scene IMO.

  300. Ulf
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:43 am | Permalink

    I will have to watch again when home. Got Wrestlemania to watch as well. :)

    Anyways, next episode will be better.

    Kind of like Joffrey. So wretchedly evil.

  301. UncleB
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:43 am | Permalink

    : ( They were aiming for cheap laughs. Not a great episode.

    They should not direct anymore.

    The Tywin scene was much better in the books. That was not the place to be witty.

  302. MagnarOfThenn
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:44 am | Permalink

    There is an awesome Season 4 In The Weeks ahead 2 minute trailer on HBOGO. If someone could find it and post it on WIC with TONS OF AWESOME NEW FOOTAGE!

  303. Lex
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:45 am | Permalink

    Pretty great episode. Personal highlights were the Red Viper, and the final scene with Arya and the Hound! So good.

    I’m finding the Jaime/Joffre/Brienne/Sansa timeline changes a little strange, but it’s too early to judge.

  304. ross
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:52 am | Permalink

    Im a new fan TOTALLY love this series!!!! feel like ive missed out on not seeing it from the first day it started..but I have some questions anyone wanna help me out.?

  305. Winter Rose
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:52 am | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Oh, sure, the change doesn’t bother me at all. Makes sense to make it a story about a character with whom the audience is familiar than about a whole new one who’s also been dead for many years. Still, I’m really glad they’re keeping Ser Arthur Dayne in the story after all. Like the guys over at Westeros had put it, I kept “waiting for someone to just say that name and title with all the weight of mystery and romanticism it enshrines”.

  306. Greenjones
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:53 am | Permalink

    BTW, did anyone pick up what Jaime said in response to Tywin saying “what do you want then?” He said “___ would be nice” but I couldn’t discern what he said.

  307. Connie
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:54 am | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    BTW, did anyone pick up what Jaime said in response to Tywin saying “what do you want then?” He said “___ would be nice” but I couldn’t discern what he said.

    I think it was “Dinner”? It was a cheeky Jaime retort to his father’s disappointment.

  308. LadyJeyne
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:54 am | Permalink

    I’m not sure if this is a spoiler but did anyone notice Cercei talking about symptoms and Qyburn helping her with them? Do you think Cercei was pregnant and received an abortant? That would be an interesting theory. I can’t remember if that was in the books or not.

  309. Red Hound
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:59 am | Permalink

    Ulf:
    Am Ithe only one who thought the episode sucked?

    I thought it was one of the best so far, considering we’re just picking up from the last season and preparing what’s coming next.

    I don’t really like the Martells, but Oberyn presentation was amazing. I bet it’s new fan favourite. But man, the Thenns…that song, the attitude, the marks in the face, the grunting, the cannibalism, “too scrawny”. That was my favourite part of the episode, but I basically liked everything of it, every single scene. Kit was quite great too.

  310. cosca
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:07 am | Permalink

    UncleB,

    You’re the second person to say the direction was bad in this episode. What was bad about it? Or is it just because D&D are directing and D&D are evil incarnate.

  311. loco73
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:07 am | Permalink

    Lord Stannis’s Soul,

    Yes indeed!

  312. Sergei Walankov
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:19 am | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    “Supper”.

  313. loco73
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:20 am | Permalink

    Hey, in the opening scene when they are melting Ice…were those runes/inscriptions on the blade, that appeared as the Valyrian steel was melting. We know that it is said that the smiths of old Valyria used magic spells as well as metalcraft when working with the steel and making the swords… Did anyone else see that…or was I just imagining… I mean I’m not that drunk…

    Also a few words about “Silicon Valley”: what happens to My Space in the opening credits, Aviato, dropping out of college, a really narrow SmartCar, Hooli, Kid Rock being the poorest person at a party, Miss Palo Alto 2014, a really bad doctor, a green “I know HTML (how to meet ladies) t-shirt ,Grinder and of course the two Steves…Jobs versus Wozniak! Spot those things and you’ll see why this new series can become one amazing show!

    PS Oh yeah! Also “Last Week Tonight” with John Oliver is coming! Enough said…

  314. Bannerless Bro
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:23 am | Permalink

    LadyJeyne,

    Probably, after all she was shagging the Ketteblacks and Moonboy for all I know.

  315. Sergei Walankov
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:23 am | Permalink

    Great episode, BTW. No, not an epochal, series-defining episode of the kind we’ll be talking about for decades to come, but a thrilling reminder of the show’s blazing greatness all the same. There’s nothing in popular culture right now that holds a candle to it.

  316. Sergei Walankov
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:25 am | Permalink

    Ulf:
    Am Ithe only one who thought the episode sucked?

    You name it, and there’s someone out there dumb enough to think it. This the internet has taught us, if nothing else.

  317. Sean C.
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:27 am | Permalink

    Phil:
    so hopefully next episode with have Dontos meeting Sansa again and telling her he’s gonna get her out of KL during the wedding.They might have to mention Littlefinger as being a part of the escape or else it won’t make too much sense since we haven’t had the whole Florian thing, but they need at least a scene of him telling her to leave during the wedding, not sure how they’re just gonna spirit her away otherwise.

    They wouldn’t have had Dontos give her the necklace under a pretext if they were planning on giving Sansa any agency in this story (like she had in the book).

    I’m more and more convinced that filming the Beyond the Wall scenes in Iceland was a huge mistake on the show’s part, because the scenes with the same characters filmed south of the Wall (or on soundstages) are of much higher quality. Jon was way, way more compelling in this episode than he’s been in a while.

  318. spacechampion
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:28 am | Permalink

    loco73:
    Hey, in the opening scene when they are melting Ice…were those runes/inscriptions on the blade, that appeared as the Valyrian steel was melting. We know that it is said that the smiths of old Valyria used magic spells as well as metalcraft when working with the steel and making the swords… Did anyone else see that…or was I just imagining… I mean I’m not that drunk…

    Not runes, that’s the pattern that comes from folding the steel repeatedly that makes it Valyrian steel. Google “Damascus steel” to see our real world equivalent. Chemically what happens is the steel becomes two different phases, like putting rebar into concrete. I think it’s laminations of lead-rich phases giving strength alternating with laminations of lead-poor phases giving it flexibility.

    That said, melting the damn thing down makes it NOT Valyrian steel anymore. Grrr. The blacksmith from Volantis would know how to work the steel but would not how to make it from the melted metal.

  319. Wolfman27
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:30 am | Permalink

    ross:
    Im a new fan TOTALLY love this series!!!! feel like ive missed out on not seeing it from the first day it started..but I have some questions anyone wanna help me out.?

    I’d be happy to answer a few of your questions, and I’m sure there would be other readers here who would be happy to help as well!

  320. Lex
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:35 am | Permalink

    Anzah:
    I kind of like how we thought this episode was about the Two Swords Tywin gets made – Oathkeeper & Widow’s Wail.
    But really, the episode is book-ended by the Stark swords. Ice & Needle.

    Nice catch, didn’t think of that. Two Lannister swords, and two Stark swords…

  321. Heidegger
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:39 am | Permalink

    I didn’t like the episode. It was dull, and trashy. Typical trashy episode of this trashy vulgar soap opera. Dear God, what will happen when the time comes to adapt books 4 and 5? How can any watchable material be extracted from those 1,500 pages of boring plotless turgid mess? Viewers will desert the show in millions and it will be disgracefully cancelled.

  322. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:56 am | Permalink

    It took some time, but the trolls have finally started rolling in. It was good while it lasted.

  323. Greenjones
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:12 am | Permalink

    Sergei Walankov,

    Thanks. I thought it was either that or “summer”.

  324. Heidegger
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:13 am | Permalink

    @WeirwoodTreeHugger Why do you think that someone who disagrees with you is a troll? Do you think you are automatically right and anyone whose opinion is different is automatically wrong? Is dislike of this TV show reason enough to disqualify someone as a “troll”? Do you use that word because you are unable to formulate a convincing argument in your favour?

  325. TheBerylfly
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:14 am | Permalink

    Can someone please explain to me logic behind making Cersei cold and distant towards Jaime and making her commission his golden hand? Like, I just don’t get D&D. At first they jump out of their pants to make her more likable and write away some of her more heinous acts, then they bitch her up.

  326. KG
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:19 am | Permalink

    No it’s the self-professed dislike of a TV show that you still take the time to come over and insult trying to stir up trouble that gets the “troll” word.

  327. cosca
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:21 am | Permalink

    TheBerylfly,

    It’s almost as if people are complex and act differently depending on the situation.

  328. Sergei Walankov
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:22 am | Permalink

    Heidegger: Why do you think that someone who disagrees with you is a troll?

    I don’t think anyone who disagrees me is a troll. I think people with nothing better to do than watch shows they don’t like and then go on to fan sites to say how much they suck are trolls. Trolling is that thing people do on the internet to get attention in lieu of any ability to achieve anything worthwhile in their lives. If you were anything other than a troll, you’d be doing something else.

  329. TheBerylfly
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:24 am | Permalink

    cosca,

    what does that have to do with what I said? My question was why would they first erase/justify more horrific acts of Cersei of the book, make more likable and redeemable, and then turn her straight around and make her much bitchier than her book counterpart?

  330. King Stannis
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:24 am | Permalink

    Heidegger,

    Marvelous speech. You can go ahead and jump of a bridge now.

  331. Reza
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:29 am | Permalink

    If you guys go back and watch the first trailer for this season you’ll see that the scene where Jaime says to Joeffry “The war’s no won” is totally different! Almost as if it is another take or at least from a different angle!

  332. Sergei Walankov
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:31 am | Permalink

    Does whatever D&D have done to make Cersei “more likable and redeemable” amount to anything more than omitting particular things from the book? If not, I’m sure the answer to TheBerylfly’s question is that calibrating Cersei’s character is not the only consideration they have to take into account when deciding what to include and what to omit. As someone who isn’t reading past the TV series, I can tell you that Cersei seems plenty unsympathetic enough from my perspective.

  333. Kessell
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:38 am | Permalink

    really liked the episode, agree its the strongest season opener so far (you can’t really count the 1st episode imo). only two small nitpicks would be newDaario being more like Jorah2.0, it’s part of Dany’s character that she is completly smitten by the douchy slimey guy that was oldDaario. and 2nd I feel they jumped the gun back in season 2 by screwing with the sequence of Arya’s killing spree and not adding 1 more random Jaqen victim. Having said that I liked all the stuff with newDaario in it and the scene with arya and the hound was definatly better than good for a lot of reasons. Also the pre-credits bit was amazing. Tywin threatening to smile! You really have to feel for Illyn Payne though, he just lost his really awesome sword. Not to mention that scabbard that is probably nicer than anything else he has lying around. The whole wolf look would have been a lot less politically incorrect in a few years. Looking forward to much more of Prince Exposition, and for the love of god, please make a real life version of Joffreys statue, preferably from butter.

  334. King of the Ashes
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:40 am | Permalink

    Heidegger,

    -___- alright. thanks a bunch. can you go live your life now?

  335. loco73
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:41 am | Permalink

    spacechampion: Not runes, that’s the pattern that comes from folding the steel repeatedly that makes it Valyrian steel.Google “Damascus steel” to see our real world equivalent.Chemically what happens is the steel becomes two different phases, like putting rebar into concrete.I think it’s laminations of lead-rich phases giving strength alternating with laminations of lead-poor phases giving it flexibility.

    Thank you for taking time to reply. You are right! What a disgraceful thing to do to a greatsword like Ice…one of the few authentic Valyrian swords left…

    That said, melting the damn thing down makes it NOT Valyrian steel anymore.Grrr.The blacksmith from Volantis would know how to work the steel but would not how to make it from the melted metal.

  336. Leo
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:52 am | Permalink

    Blah blah blah this episode was like really cool and awesome. (just so I don’t get hounded like Heidegger b/c I feel it’s easier to voice my one complaint than also be preacher #100 about how good X scene was and how great Y scene was) anyway…

    The ordering of the scenes and scene transitions didn’t work so well for me. I dunno. 3×02 is a good example that did these things better, I was shocked to come here and see people list it so low. Maybe cause Daenerys wasn’t in it? She won’t be next week, but I don’t think that’ll be a problem this time.

  337. Kessell
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:59 am | Permalink

    really like what they are doing with Alliser Thorne. Merging him with upcomming Donal Noye material creates a character that really impacts Jon along with the old Bear in a meaningfull way, that was lacking slightly with the limited time so far for thorne/noye/aemon/other NW people .

  338. Ser Davos Seaworth
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:11 am | Permalink

    Haven’t seen it yet… In school… This is what you get for living in the Middle East

  339. StMB
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:11 am | Permalink

    King Stannis

  340. Robert
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:14 am | Permalink

    What the fuck is a lommy?

  341. Kessell
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:15 am | Permalink

    Leo,

    I kind of get what you are saying, looking back at 3.2 I think the transitions between area’s was a lot starker. big changes in colour and music and some kind of establishing shot. In this episode I also felt suprised sometimes to find that we had shifted location, as the transitions happend quite quickly and without sudden large changes in the music. Basically i think there were more changes that felt like (from this episode) the one from Dany to Sansa than there were ones like Cersei to Ygritte (also from this episode, but more like the ones more promminent in other episodes).

  342. KG
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:18 am | Permalink

    And we know this be … cause Valyrian Steel is real and you’re an expert on the subject?

    If GRRM says Valyrian Steel can be melted down and re-forged, then it can be melted down and re-forged. It’s magic, for God’s sake.

  343. Sergei Walankov
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:19 am | Permalink

    The only scene that didn’t work for me was Sansa and Dontos. For once I have some insight here based on book-reading, being alert to the fact that their back story from ACoK was omitted from earlier seasons. Here they had the challenge of shoe-horning the subplot back into the story, and their means of doings so — having Sansa respond sympathetically upon finding herself being stalked by a horrid slob — was out of character. It was similarly unsatisfying when Jojen and Meera were belatedly inserted into proceedings at the start of season three.

  344. cosca
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:23 am | Permalink

    Sergei Walankov,

    I thought it was rather touching that during a very dark time for her, someone came and thanked her for her compassion and kindness. Even if he is a drunken slob.

  345. wizardeyes
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:25 am | Permalink

    It’s a shame there wasn’t a Jaime/ Tyrion scene. Really want to see them hanging out!

  346. Connie
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:29 am | Permalink

    cosca,

    I really enjoyed the scene as well. I thought Sophie was quite good throughout the episode.

  347. Sergei Walankov
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:31 am | Permalink

    Sophie indeed acted very well, particularly in the scene with Tyrion.

  348. Kessell
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:32 am | Permalink

    Sergei Walankov,

    Agree, in both cases it comes across a bit wierd. I think the Reeds are a little bit worse, simply because they appear out of nowhere, in the middle of nowhere (and they don’t adress Bran as Prince). Where as Sansa not being completly freeked out by a slobbering stalker she at first doesn’t recognise could even be put down to a growth in her confidence :)

  349. Connie
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:35 am | Permalink

    Sergei Walankov,

    The quality of the “child” actors on this show is quite something when compared with other shows on the air these days.

    I mean, I think Chandler Riggs is quite good on The Walking Dead, but there is no comparison between him and his adult co-stars. With Maisie, Sophie, and Jack, you sometimes forget how young they are because they stand on-par with their fellow (older and more experienced) thespians.

  350. Sergei Walankov
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:43 am | Permalink

    Absolutely, Connie. Things like special effects and music are always going to be of a high standard if your budget is big enough, but it was no foregone conclusion that they would be able to find child actors (as they were at the time) capable of carrying such emotionally demanding roles.

  351. Walda
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:00 am | Permalink

    Connie,

    I agree on what you said about Sophie and Maisie and Jack. When I’m watching TWD, Riggs just doesn’t seem to be on par with other actors on the show.

    Just compared him to Isaac, who’s the exact same age. He had zero experience prior to GoT and is still tremendously better than him. And unlike other young characters in the show, the Bran’s scenes has no other experienced supporting actors like Charles Dance or Rory, so that makes Isaac the leading man in his own scenes, which is a very difficult job for a child actor. I think these young actors really deserve more recognition.

  352. Connie
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:09 am | Permalink

    Walda,

    Agreed. I forgot to include Isaac, but I totally agree that he has an even tougher job being the “leading man”, as you said, of his own story. From what we’ve seen of Thomas as Jojen, I also think he will be quite good.

    As for your second point about recognition, I think they’re getting a bit more in the mainstream press, but to be honest, it does still seem that Kit, Emilia, and Peter, with the sporadic interview here and there with NCW and/or Lena, get the majority of the spotlight. Not that they shouldn’t, but I would say that Maisie, Sophie, Jack, and Isaac have been much more compelling actors than Kit and Emilia at times.

  353. loki
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:22 am | Permalink

    you’re fucking slow

  354. The lord of light
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:26 am | Permalink

    great episode
    loved Arya at the end
    she and the hound are such a badass couple

  355. The lord of light
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    and the the scene at the very beginning where Tywin melting the late Neds stark sword is also very impressive
    great the start the first episode of the season

  356. Dark Heart
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:39 am | Permalink

    My only concern was the handmaiden overhearing Shae and Tyrion, and then reporting to Cersei. Kind of spoils the surprise of the trial prosecution. Unless they are planning to make her confess against her will…

  357. Sergei Walankov
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:41 am | Permalink

    Spoiler tags please, Dark Heart.

  358. Ghost
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    Im sorry but Oberyn Martell is easily the best character ever. Pedro fucking killed it, he was the perfect casting.

  359. NomadicDirewolf
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:52 am | Permalink

    Very good episode, especially for a first episode. Finally getting to see Oberyn was great, doing the opening scene was awesome as well, liked the ending with Arya and the Hound, and they also liked how they kept to the books a lot of the time during this episode (little things like addressing Doran and Oberyn as ‘princes’ were good, especially as I thought they’d get rid of that cos it would be to confusing for unsullied)

  360. Leo
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:02 am | Permalink

    Kessell,

    Yup! In this premiere, we go from Oberyn’s face to a wideshot of the dragons, Daario/Grey Worm to Sansa/Shae, and like you said..Cersei to Wildlings. I’m pretty keen, and I still rewound a few times thinking I blinked during the establishing shot. It was that fast. While in 3×02, you have Catelyn saying “Have you heard from Theon?” then shift to Theon being tortured. The camera pans from Brienne/Jaime’s feet and rises to Joffrey in KL. You cut from Joffrey in the mirror to Sansa in the mirror.

    It’s nothing new and as a GoT fan, you’re used to being thrown all over. But it is a common complaint of the show, and I do find things much better when it’s more focused like in 3×08 “Second Sons.”

    Wikipedia says D.B. Weiss directed this episode. Is that right? It would appear to be his first episode as a director. That would explain why transitions aren’t as smooth.

  361. Shock Me
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    Kessell,

    This is what comes from making Jorah too attractive. In fairness, I though book Daario was silly. Show Daario 1.0′s acting style didn’t really fit although he was suitably aggressive and …forward. All things considered, I prefer the new Daario and I think the chemistry will work better.

  362. Shock Me
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    Heidegger:
    I didn’t like the episode. It was dull, and trashy. Typical trashy episode of this trashy vulgar soap opera. Dear God, what will happen when the time comes to adapt books 4 and 5? How can any watchable material be extracted from those 1,500 pages of boring plotless turgid mess? Viewers will desert the show in millions and it will be disgracefully cancelled.

    The troll is weak with this one.

  363. gewa76
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:13 am | Permalink

    They should have brought back Jason Momoa to play Daario from the beginning. He could play Daario as flamboyant, but have that immediate chemistry with Dany. Easy enough to make it clear he’s not Drogo, but he reminds her of Drogo.

  364. Jorge
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:15 am | Permalink

    can anyone tell me who cersei’s spy was? Was that Taena?

  365. Shock Me
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    BTW, did anyone pick up what Jaime said in response to Tywin saying “what do you want then?” He said “___ would be nice” but I couldn’t discern what he said.

    “Supper would be nice.”

  366. Popcorn
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:18 am | Permalink

    Arya was great, love her..
    Kit Harington was the best actor in the episode imo.

    But the girl who plays shae is a shitty actress and she’s also ugly..Why is she still here?

  367. Shock Me
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:19 am | Permalink

    FamousAmazingGuy:
    I wasn’t thrilled about the direction tonight. It kinda reminded me of an episode of Dallas.

    Maester Aemon was the highlight for me.

    Maester Aemon ALWAYS kills it. But Jon and Aemon in the rookery will always be my favorite reveal ever.

  368. BlackTalon
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    An excellent episode. Apart form the “9″ episodes one of the four or five best of the show in my opinion.

  369. Drew
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:24 am | Permalink

    UtherGreenShirt,

    We have actually… He’s the Thenn warg with Orells eagle…

    Did anyone else mark out when dario pulled out the Blue ‘dust’ Rose???

  370. Family, Duty, Hodor
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    Fascinating interview with GRRM.

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26923282

    Going to go watch the episode now!

  371. mariamb
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    Drew:
    UtherGreenShirt,

    Did anyone else mark out when dario pulled out the Blue ‘dust’ Rose???

    I noticed it and loved it. I was also very happy with Oberyn’s declaration that Rhaegar left Elia for another woman.

  372. TheMannis
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:38 am | Permalink

    One of the best episodes yet!!

  373. Leo
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    Family, Duty, Hodor,

    GRRM: “Ultimately I think we will have two versions of the same story”

  374. Ser Tahu
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    It was a good episode, and probably my favourite of all the season premieres so far.

    Highlight(s): The introduction to Oberyn. All of the history that was referenced (Rhaegar, Arthur Dayne and Dunk. Also, if you look at the page before Arthur’s it is clearly about Ser Gerold Hightower and references the skirmish with Ned at the Tower of Joy :D)

    Lowlight: Ser Duncan’s page was after Arthur Dayne’s?!? Also, MELTING DOWN THE SWORD IS STUPID. THAT’S NOT HOW FORGING WORKS. #NOONEUNDERSTAAANDSMATERIALSCIENCE

  375. Atomix
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    Polish,

    Yeah that was my thought too. George had to show that he wrote that and didnt want people saying the show was leading the books. Maybe D&D should do more of that to push GRRM to release more Sample Chapters.

  376. Whispering Walda
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    Lex,

    I have a strong suspicion that they just melted down the only sword in Westeros large enough and magical enough to decapitate a fully grown dragon

  377. Dnis
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    MagnarOfThenn,

    Thanks for sharing – just watched on HBO Go. One thing that caught my eye was a black-haired bathing Melisandre. Also, I can’t get enough of angry Tyrion.

  378. FrYo
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    Awesome opener.

    Having the melting of Ice in the pre-credits was expected but I thought the ‘Two Swords’ reference was only going to be to that scene. I did not think Needle would appear back so soon.

    On other matters:
    - Arya is awesome but Lord Tywin Dance is better.
    - Dragons are starting to get biiiiiig.
    - New Daario is massively different.
    - I dig the Brienne/Tyrell relationship.
    - I was not all that fond of the Red Viper (yeah, shoot me) but Oberyn changed that. Red Viper Rulez.
    - Quite nice to have Daario offer a blue rose to Dany and a speech about Rhaegar leaving for another woman (and not kidnapping her or something) in the same episode. If Jojen could tell Bran what he saw at the Tower of Joy now, that would be just perfect .

    Bring it on episode 2!

  379. cosca
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    Leo,

    I wouldn’t put all that much stock in that. He’s also been saying that GoT could run for 10 seasons lately.

  380. Cersei's Brain
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    Onion Knight,

    Yeah – couldn’t get the live stream either. But did see review which was up pretty early Monday.

  381. Reinier
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    MagnarOfThenn:
    There is an awesome Season 4 In The Weeks ahead 2 minute trailer on HBOGO. If someone could find it and post it on WIC with TONS OF AWESOME NEW FOOTAGE!

    Hope someone will post it soon. People with HBOGO?

  382. Daniru
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    EPISODE RECAPS WHERE ARE YOU

  383. JamesL
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Amazing premiere! Something about the quality of writing and pace felt more polished than usual. It’s very much a set up episode and could have easily sucked but they managed to make it really fantastic. I hope they can keep the quality this high the rest of the season.

    I see some people didn’t like the Thenns, I thought they were badass and so was Ramin’s score for that scene. I only read the books once a few years ago and honestly don’t even remember much about them but they look like they’re going to be far more interesting in the show than they ever were in the book.

  384. Ours the fury is!
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    I must inform you that Brian Fortune is returning as Bowen Marsh the Brute this season

  385. Bard
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Prince Doran (and his problematic health) was mentioned for the first time on the show I guess and Cersei talked about Myrcella’s shipping to Dorne during Jaimes absence. Could indicate we are going to see Dorne next season despite all the talks about the storyline getting cut.

    I enjoyed the episode, although of course it’s all about catching up with the different storylines, re-introducing the characters etc.

    The opening scene was brilliant and I think it was a good idea to get Jaime to KL earlier (apparently even a few weeks before the wedding), because it offers so many opportunities for interesting dialogues. I liked the idea that Joffrey mocks Jaime because of his (more or less) blank page in the White Book (and the effect it has on him, alongside the rather unpleasant chats with his father and Cersei). In the books he reads it all alone in silence, which would not have been possible on the show. Well done.

    The introduction of Oberyn demonstrated why he’s called the “Red Viper”, although I have to say I miss his witty chat with Tyrion outside KL from the books (and some people will complain again about sexposition…). The focus in the episode laid more on the threat he posed for the Lannister family.

    Jons “tribunal” was very enjoyable too, I guess he and Slynt will become great friends in the future.

    Things I didn’t like so much:

    - New Daario and Grey Worm gambling

    - The Thenn’s seem to be a bit over the top (cannibalism, scars etc.)

  386. Kellie
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    Im just wondering if the necklace Ser Dontas gives Sansa is the necklace Margaery wears on her wedding day? Isn’t it possible that Lady Olenna & Margaery are the poisoners and not Sansa? after all there was a lot of talk about wedding necklaces in the beginning of the episode. I can’t really see in the photos…

  387. iRaven
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    I was quite impressed when my unsullied friend saw Dontos and said “That’s the guy the did the wine bong!”.

    Great episode, IMO especially considering its a season opener. Bronn and the Hound are kings of the one liners. And Oberyn is my new favorite character. LOVE the accent and the guy they cast.

    Sent from my iRaven.

  388. Turncloak
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Suprisingly energetic and very positive review from Larry Williams for this episode. I haven’t seen him this happy for the show since season 1. However, The fate of Oberyn Martell will destroy him

    http://youtu.be/VKBMNytnlE4

  389. Boojam
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    WHEN IN THE HECK ARE THEY GOING TO GIVE THE DRAGON NAMES!?

  390. anuhealani
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    Ulf,
    I disliked it, too, and was pretty crushed to realize it. After that amazing cold open I was sure it would all be great, but this was the first episode where I found myself hoping it would hurry up and end.

    I’m glad most people seemed to enjoy it at least. *shrug*

  391. Tori Targaryen
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Not sure if anyone has already posted this, but there’s an audio interview with GRRM on BBC: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-26923282

  392. KG
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Doesn’t look like it was.

    Kellie:
    Im just wondering if the necklace Ser Dontas gives Sansa is the necklace Margaery wears on her wedding day? Isn’t it possible thatLady Olenna & Margaery are the poisoners and not Sansa? after all there was a lot of talk about wedding necklaces in the beginning of the episode. I can’t really see in the photos…

  393. Carryboo
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    The Hound Rocks!! Nuff said….

  394. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    I thought it was a pretty strong episode, overall. Like most, I thought Oberyn was perfect. Great casting. Also loved the Hound/Arya scene. I’m a fan whenever Rory McCann gets to fight, but Maisie really stole that scene.

    Not too thrilled with the recasting of Daario, but whatever. Don’t like recasting in general, but if they had to do it, they had to do it. Can’t get around that. But they should’ve at least cast someone who looked more like the last guy. Because I was watching with people who know the story, and he threw them off, i.e. “Who is that?… That’s Daario?… WTF happened to him?… Why doesn’t Dany like him anymore?”… The chemistry isn’t quite as good, and he doesn’t come off as an arrogant playboy either. More of a down and dirty sellsword now… like Bronn.

    Also — great scene with the Magnar of Thenn. Great casting once again.

  395. Carryboo
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    The Hound Rocks!! Nuff said…

  396. Arristan The Old
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Loved it, loved it, loved it.

    But I have a couple of minor nitpicks:
    1) Ice getting melted – I think it would have been broken and then hammered into 2 new blades in a forge, not melted and cast in a mold. It’s mentined many times how you can see the ripple marks in a valyrian blade due to the metal having been folded over many times during its forging; if it were melted down, that would be lost. Not that they showed ripples in the steel of the new sword anyhow. Maybe this only doesn;t make sense to a blacksmith, or a backyard metalcaster like me (which is also how I know an open mold like that would make a really rough casting)
    2) Thenns as cannibals. Even if it made sense that the most civilized wildlings were barbaric cannibals, the surprise man-meat wasn’t even a little surprising. IT was badly telegraphed. Am I the only one who saw it coming a mile away, as soon as they didn’t show the “food” right after it was mentioned? Our view of it was blocked bhy a Thenn several times before it was painfully obviously revealed.

    But those are realy minor; I’d still call it one of the best episodes of the season so far! :)

  397. Tereeza 777
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    The Red Viper – wow! Que chévere! (How awesome!) Que sexytoso! The way he moves, his facial expressions and Spanish accent were perfect. Not to mention the Viper’s imperious, gold-turbaned entourage. Middle Eastern music playing in the background and even the Dornish stallions were dressed to kill. Then, on to the brothel. My only complaint is that we never got to see – just a little – of the Dornish Orgy the Viper was orchestrating. My heart was pounding, my boyfriend’s eyes were getting bigger by the second, and then Beavis and Butthead Lannister soldiers start singing “Rains” and ruin the moment. Only then it got cool again when the Viper stabbed one of them in the wrist! Adelante Viper! And this must be Cannibal Month – first the Terminus crowd on Walking Dead and now the Thenns – nice!

  398. drew
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Boojam,

    I feel you!!!! name your bloody dragons Dany!!!!!! stop ogling Dario and NAME THEM

  399. Connie
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    I appreciate the intro to the Viper. He’s completely comfortable in who and what he is. This is my girlfriend. Let’s pick a pretty girl to play with her. Hey, you’re a pretty boy. I want you to join us. And hey! It’s Bronn and Tyrion! Let’s add more girls to even things out! Bronn’s YES and Tyrion’s No was perfect. He’s a masculine figure who has no issues about his sexuality. He likes pleasure and pretty people. Nuff said.

    It was the best sexposition yet, short of Pycell’s scene or Tyrion’s introduction.

  400. fuelpagan
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Phil,

    I doubt it. I’m guessing Dontos takes her by the hand once the shit hits the fan saying something along the lines of “Follow me, I’ll keep you safe!” The show has already established a rapport between the characters. A small one, but I think it’s enough for the audience to understand why Sansa would follow his lead during the chaos, given Dontos is trying to save her life after she had saved his. She won’t know she is actually being rescued until after the event takes place. Dontos may reveal it’s Littlefinger’s plan for her escape when Sansa asks where Dontos is taking her.

  401. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Kyrion:
    Doran is in(WHICH IS AMAZING, MY FAVORITE PRINCE/Lord!!!), which means Arianne is in


    Its Victarion and Euron that we have to worry about. We have no namedrops of them, though Tyrion did say “uncles” in season 1 so I guess there must be atleast 2 lol

    Name checking is always a good sign. The uncles, we’ll see. But I maintain this: the longer Balon is alive, the better the chances we get the uncles.

  402. arya_fan
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Daniru:
    EPISODE RECAPS WHERE ARE YOU

    I was wondering the same thing. Hope they keep providing those recaps, they were really well done :)

  403. hath4
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Dnis,

    could you post it or a summary of the scenes in it.

  404. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    Red Hound: But man, the Thenns…that song, the attitude, the marks in the face, the grunting, the cannibalism, “too scrawny”.

    That was pretty great. The reaction is what it should be, which is: “Look at THESE fuckin’ guys.”

  405. Chriss
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Man, that was amazing. The show felt like it had a real sense of direction – more so than any other season premiere. By far the best. Oberyn and Ellaria were amazing, as was The Hound, and Doran got a mention!! What else could you ask for?!

  406. UnbowdUnbentedUnhodor
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Still cant see it for a few days nooo:(

  407. Mescalinic
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    UtherGreenShirt:
    we havent seen Joseph Gnatt (sic) yet…. does that mean he is CHs?

    we saw him… he is the Thenn Warg (well, i suppose he’s a Warg) … the one with the Owl. am i mistaken?

    i think is possible that he will play some kind of Thenn version of Varamyr, with multiple beasts but that’s just my 2 eurocents.

  408. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Steel_Wind: Honestly? I don’t think that the Hound is going to survive Season 4. I mean, for real. I think Rory is already looking for work.


    It’s not as if they can’t have just one battle with one group of thugs.

  409. sig79
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Steel_Wind: Honestly? I don’t think that the Hound is going to survive Season 4. I mean, for real. I think Rory is already looking for work.

    True, I’m just curious how that’s all going to go down now. That’s really the only thing that deviated from the book from what I can remember anyway. I guess we’ll see how it happens.

  410. Deathdreams
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    I was glad to hear the names of some of the current kingsguard beside Merryn Trant (ser Borros, and ser Preston) even though Ser Preston is supposed to be dead.

  411. freoduwebbe
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    I loved how Slynt made fun of the giants…. and Thorne just gave him a ‘shut up stupid’ look. Oh, and Joff’s statue with the wolf… what a hoot

    I read a bunch of recaps last night and I’m thrilled to see OZ recognized the wolf scabbard for what it was.. a bunch of recappers called it other things… I mean THEY PULLED THE SWORD OUT OF IT… sheesh.

    I really enjoyed this episode. My husband FINALLY decided to watch.. so we watched the marathon (he watched straight thru) then watched this episode 3 times before we watched the fourth time between our eyelids. I was really happy to see HBO on demand put it up right away. Last year I had to wait to the next day. I’d been able to find the Fire and Blood Ale so we shared a bottle (got a case, 1 per episode and he gets the last two)

    He gets bored with the ‘soap opera’ stuff… but he loves the battles and scenery. Pretty sure the Hound is high on his list.

  412. sig79
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Uberstellar:
    Book fans! Did you all gasp at the line she married Rhaegar and he left her for another woman as loud as I did?!

    Hell yeah, that was awesome! The R+L=J theory is really looking more and more plausible.

  413. Just
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Ulf,

    The answer to that question will always be “no”. You are never going to be the only one with a certain opinion about anything, ever.

  414. ebevan91
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Reinier: Hope someone will post it soon. People with HBOGO?

    I haven’t found the video anywhere on HBO Go. The only “Weeks Ahead” video I saw was back from season 2.

  415. chives
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Jaime’s goodbye wave to Qyburn won that episode.

  416. steve
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Bah. I can’t get HBO go because my provider doesn’t get it. I am dying to see the HBO GO trailer.

  417. jentario
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    HAVEN’T WATCHED IT YET! AM NOW WAITING FOR FAMILY! Anyway, I heard it was great (from a friend that is usually critical about EVERYTHING) which is good. I am also going to do something which I suggest you all (Sullied) do: tell your friends this season will be the best yet, but the finale will be shitty. I am going to feel so smug when I say this. They won’t understand, and when it comes around… To quote Mord: “NO GOLD!”

  418. House Mormont
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    I like the little time jump between 3×10 and 4×01:

    Jaime and Brienne have settled in
    Cersei has grown fond of Qyburn
    Jon has recovered his health
    Dany has settled in her Freed Men and her dragons have grown
    Arya and Sansa have found grieved and our now finding ways to cope
    The Small Council learned Doran Martell is coming to the capital

    Also like the different fighting styles of our fighters

    Oberyn Martell: fights like a viper, stabs a guy’s hand before he can even withdraw his sword
    Sandor Clegane: fights like a wild hound, or maybe a bull, throws tables on people and punches them with mailed fists
    Arya: sly and clever, uses something around her to disable, then disarms, then kills with their own weapon. Same each time.

  419. ebevan91
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    steve:
    Bah. I can’t get HBO go because my provider doesn’t get it. I am dying to see the HBO GO trailer.

    I have HBO Go and I don’t see it on there. Is that one poster the only one here who has seen the video? If so, I think he’s just bullshitting.

  420. AryaStark
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    A very good episode! (8/10) The first episodes in each season tend to be expository, but I actually found the dialogue and setup to be quite interesting.

    The big highlight was the scenes with Arya and The Hound. The ‘couple’ is amusing to watch and Arya has really transformed from the little innocent, shy girl we saw in the first season. Looking forward to episode 2!

  421. House Mormont
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    When are they going to reveal that Joffrey ordered Bran’s assassination though? I thought it’d be the bombshell they’d end on this episode, since Tyrion and Jaime both figure it out, and they’re together… and the wedding is the next episode…

  422. AryaStark
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    “But the girl who plays shae is a shitty actress and she’s also ugly..Why is she still here?”

    Although I would perhaps used a more ‘polite’ term, I do agree that I feel that the actress who plays Shae is miscast. I’d much rather have seen Esme Bianco as Shae. She was a good spunky actress and she was very attractive.

  423. Shywalker
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    So, I had a thought about something from last night’s episode…
    There’s been lots of talk about the necklace from Dontos to Sansa- is it possible that it’s the same necklace that the Queen of Thorns threw into the woods when she was reviewing Marg’s jewelry choices for the wedding?

    Then Dontos picked it up to make the delivery to Sansa, effectively further removing the Tyrells (and Littlefinger) from the necklace.

  424. House Mormont
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Shywalker,

    no they were very different, the one Olenna threw was gold, green and clunky

  425. Huge Floppy Gut
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Maybe this has been covered already but i don’t feel like reading over 400 comments…How is Slynt already on the council for the brothers, didnt he just get there? I don’t remember if this happens in the book or not. can someone fill me in, thanks

  426. Hoyti Von Totiy
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Great to have the show back, and it is great for an opening of the season, but its best this is the last episode where so little meaningfull actually happend.

    Lets hope the pace picks up next week.

  427. Dnis
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    hath4,

    I’m mostly useless – I can’t post the video, and since I’m at the office now, I can’t re-watch. Most of the visuals are scenes we’ve already seen from other trailers, but there’s a lot of new dialogue:

    1. In what looks like a small council meeting, Cersei dismisses Dany as a threat, but Varys states the obvious truth that anyone with three dragons is dangerous.

    2. A man (I didn’t recognize the voice – Jaime, maybe?) says something related to honor and dishonorable actions.

    2. Oberyn gets in a line about all of his enemies being in the same room (presumably at Tyrion’s trial)

    3. The video ends with Tyrion at his trial, saying that he saved the city, but that he should have let Stannis kill them all. Great delivery by Dinklage, as always.

    ebevan91,

    Now I can’t find it, either! Wish I hadn’t navigated off the page.

  428. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Shywalker,

    Episode 3 spoiler:

    Don’t read if you don’t want to know…

    ….

    …..

    Supposedly, when Sansa arrives at the ship, Littlefinger smashed the necklace and says it was worth nothing. This after he personally kills Dontos.

  429. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Hoyti Von Totiy,

    Yeah, Arya getting back Needle was nothing. Sansa getting the necklace that carries the poison that kills the King is nothing. Introducing an important new character in a memorable and awesome way is nothing.

    Gods, why can’t people just enjoy character driven dialogue scenes?

  430. Thoros
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Brownie Points given!
    KG,

  431. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Hoyti Von Totiy,

    Yeah, Arya getting back Needle was nothing. Sansa getting the necklace that carries the poison that kills the King is nothing. Introducing an important new character in a memorable and awesome way is nothing.

    Gods, why can’t people just enjoy character driven dialogue scenes?

    I don’t know. This isn’t a cheesy action movie. It’s about the characters. We wouldn’t care about the big moments if the characters weren’t developed. Not every episode has to have an epic battle or a huge twist. It felt to me like the plot moved forward.

  432. Dolorous Ned
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Loved the episode! The reforging of Ice, Arya &the Hound, Oberyn…Plus, So many little nuggets and details for book readers

    Minor gripe: Alliser Thorne is just back at the wall, with no mention how his visit to King’s Landing went. I understand they have to cut stuff, but I hope they’ll at least adress it with a few sentences, for continuity’s sake.

  433. Ser Duncan the Tall
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Broken Wolf,
    yea, remember that this thankless asshole also went ahead and cut the tips of the fingers off the guy who just saved his family, his men, and helped him keep storm’s end… This guy sucks. Who was it that said ” No one wants you for their king. You never wanted any friends, brother, but a man without friends is a man without power.” Renly Baratheon was right.

  434. Benjen
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Huge Floppy Gut,

    By this time, he will have been at East-Watch-By-The-Sea for quite a while (early season 2) and considering he was head of the City Watch in King’s Landing, he probably ascended ranks fairly quickly since most people who come to the wall are criminals.

  435. Huge Floppy Gut
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Benjen,

    Yea, i was thinking that also, but i was just wondering if it happened the same way in the books. I read them a longtime ago

  436. Hoyti Von Totiy
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Here´s the picture of the white book, on the left side is Hightowers page:

    click to zoom…

    http://postimg.org/image/km8u1fsvb/

  437. kingwolf
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Hoyti Von Totiy,

    A brief mention(not by name)of the tower of joy. Makes me smile.

  438. Skipjack
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    It occurred to me that if Sansa’s not amethyst necklace holds the poison as a replacement for a hairnet, then this won’t be a Purple Wedding. I wonder if any book readers would be bummed out. I actually think it would be an interesting costuming choice to give her a hairnet because I think it would make her look much more mature. From the preview it looks like Ellaria gets to wear one instead.

  439. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Skipjack,

    I guess it will be the Blue Wedding.

  440. Kellie
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Skipjack,

    I thought ‘purple’ referred to the colour of someone’s face as they choked/couldnt breathe? I never thought it was because of the gemstones.

  441. Von of the 3rivers
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Dorne tootin,

    So did I.

  442. redviper
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    Shywalker,

    That’s exactly what I thought! Olenna tosses a necklace into the woods, and then we see Sansa and Dontos in the woods… However, when I re-watched the episode I was looking for that, and the necklace that Olenna threw into the woods didn’t look at all like the one Dontos gave Sansa… but it all happened very fast … it would make perfect sense that it was the same necklace.

  443. NackteElfe
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Sam: no one has mentioned the EXPLICIT shout-out that D&D gave to this idea:

    http://deadshirt.net/2013/07/04/citation-needed-omar-and-the-hound/

    when they put into the mouth of the hound the immortal words:

    “a man’s got to have a code.”

    My gf and I both screamed when he said that…

  444. redviper
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Skipjack,

    The stones on the necklace that Dontos gave Sansa are purple… just lighter …Besides, there are other easons it’s called the purple wedding … the color of the wine, and the color of Joffrey’s face!

  445. WildSeed
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    Agree on all points. The details were lacking, with regard to the historical accuracy, but it was pretty cool just to hear familiar names from the text, spoken aloud. The sword forging process was inexcusable, even if it was cool just to look at it being performed.

  446. WildSeed
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Winter Rose,

    attagirl .

  447. Greenjones
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Could someone on twitter tweet Brian Fortune and see if we’ll be getting any more Bowen this season? He was sat at that table (with short hair and just a stache now) and helped Aemon down the stairs, but its worth wondering whether he’ll stick around and perform some of his book-role…

  448. WildSeed
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    King Stannis:
    Heidegger,

    Marvelous speech. You can go ahead and jump of a bridge now.

    Lets tie on an anchor weight first, okay (?) !

  449. Dutch maester
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    Could someone on twitter tweet Brian Fortune and see if we’ll be getting any more Bowen this season? He was sat at that table (with short hair and just a stache now) and helped Aemon down the stairs, but its worth wondering whether he’ll stick around and perform some of his book-role…

    Agreed. I also find it shocking that nobody’s pointed out you can actually see MOAT CAILIN on the map in the opening already (both as we circle north towards the Dreadfort, and back south after the Wall), confirming we’ll see this particular story as it is in the books.

  450. Greenjones
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:12 pm | Permalink
  451. Nikki
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    redviper,

    It’s not a necklace, it’s for her hair.

  452. Nikki
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    gewa76,

    Uhm, no. Just no.

  453. Eor!
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Skipjack:
    It occurred to me that if Sansa’s not amethyst necklace holds the poison as a replacement for a hairnet, then this won’t be a Purple Wedding.I wonder if any book readers would be bummed out. I actually think it would be an interesting costuming choice to give her a hairnet because I think it would make her look much more mature.From the preview it looks like Ellaria gets to wear one instead.

    I thought it was called The purple wedding because Joffrey chokes and goes purple?

    Sam: code

    Could only be on purpose if they knew about it, which I doubt.

  454. shadowassassinbabby
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    i’m 100% okay with the hairnet of doom becoming a necklace of doom, but i do not understand (1) why what should have been amethysts became weird blue stones, especially since (a) the books provide a convenient canonical default (the strangler is a poison that is purple, and the stones are purple), and there’s no apparent reason to deviate from it, (b) amethysts are not an unusual stone for jewelry, (c) sansa wears a lot of purple anyway, and (d) the show already indicated in one of the pre-S4 promo videos that the wedding will be known as the Purple Wedding (joffrey turns purple and the wine is purple, but the amethysts gave that a nice triple meaning); (2) why dontos urges sansa to accept the necklace, but he doesn’t tell her where to wear it (she has more than one necklace already — way to gamble, dontos), or make any pronouncement about it (or him) being part of her way home; and (3) why i care so much.

    maybe i care because when i was reading, the whodunit of the purple wedding was compelling and had that great mystery quality where you could look back and see how all the pieces were there, waiting for you to put them together — the mysterious gift, the hints from dontos, the hints from olenna, etc. by contrast, the show’s version seems unnecessarily watered down. i am having trouble seeing how this arc can regain the cohesiveness of the book version.

    edited to add: dammit, i swear no one had written about this when i started this comment.

  455. Nessa
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Since so much has been said about the necklace, I noticed this in the promo for next week.

    Spoiler image
    http://imgur.com/06JpZ7s

    Seems like the whole thing is gone rather than just a stone. Maybe Olenna says something to the effect of “that’s the necklace Margaery should wear” and that’s how it gets off Sansa.
    Is that even the same necklace Dontos gave her? I thought it was lighter.

  456. Ashara D
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    ref=”#comment-380887″>cosca,

    Yes, but they HAVEN’T. They MARCH everywhere in show cannon. When I see Grey Worm on a horse I’ll feel better about it. But I still dislike the scene for the pissing contest aspect of it. And my jury is still out on newDaario.
    The rest of the episode was outstanding, especially the mentions of Lyanna and Rheagar and the BLUE ROSE. I love this show.

  457. ebevan91
    Posted April 7, 2014 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    I guess the “Weeks Ahead” video has been removed. I found it earlier, watched it, and now it’s gone again.

  458. Sid
    Posted April 8, 2014 at 1:07 am | Permalink

    Let’s get down to brass tax here – in the intro why did the camera swing left down the kingsroad and continue left over to slaver’s bay? Normally the view would fly right over the shivering sea? Maybe Braavos is being shown in an intro this season? ;)

  459. Kellie
    Posted April 8, 2014 at 4:04 am | Permalink

    Nessa,

    I freeze framed again and again and she is wearing the same necklace Dontos gave her, at the wedding.

  460. Dutch maester
    Posted April 8, 2014 at 4:57 am | Permalink

    Sid,

    Oh I’m sure we’ll see Braavos replace Dragonstone on the map, but this just seems like a smart creative choice, as we now get to Meereen and keep Astapor and Yunkai on screen in the distance (view from the north).

  461. Azzy Mahmood
    Posted April 8, 2014 at 5:14 am | Permalink

    Varamyr Fourskins,

    I agree 1,000,000,000% with you on new Daario. He is nothing like the old Daario, and consequently nothing like book Daario.

    Of all the changes twixt book and series, this is the biggest mistake thus far. I was appalled at how new Daario came across.

  462. meh
    Posted April 8, 2014 at 5:25 am | Permalink

    Huge Floppy Gut,

    It’s been a few years since I’ve read the ASOS, so I could be mistaken, but I don’t think Slynt was there when Jon got back. Pretty sure that Donal Noye was the guy running things at that time (though some ancient knight was technically in charge while Mormont was gone). Slynt and Thorne came to Castle Black from Eastwatch a bit later.

    As Benjen mentioned, he’d been there since season 2, being a lord and former commander of the Gold Cloaks would’ve made it easy for him to move up, especially w/Mormont taking so many of the able NW members north.

  463. meh
    Posted April 8, 2014 at 7:01 am | Permalink

    shadowassassinbabby,

    1. Maybe they decided to change it because there was a bet about which ppl would complain about more the hairnet being a necklace or the color of the gems or maybe someone in the costume department simply thought it was pretty.

    2. Dontos does push her to wear it. He pleads with her to wear it so that his house ‘can have one more day in the sun’. While it’s true that he doesn’t say “MAKE SURE YOU WEAR THIS TO THE ROYAL WEDDING!”, giving it to her when and how he did (right before the wedding and telling how grateful he is and flattering her at a time when she’s still mourning her family and is obviously feeling very low), Sansa wearing it is a gamble he could feel pretty good about. I think they could’ve included Dontos talking about helping her escape, but maybe they want that (along with LF’s involvement) to be more of a surprise for viewers.

    3. The show is going to be a watered down version of the books, just because of the differences between books/tv, along with time/budget restraints. I don’t like all of choices they make, but in this case do you think they show would’ve benefited from having 2 or 3 Dontos/Sansa scenes scattered through season 3 (I admit, I’d take that over a couple of the Theon scenes)? Which is the only way they could’ve set it up other than Dontos saying “hey, here’s some jewelry and btw I’m gonna help you escape” in this episode. They could’ve done either one, but it doesn’t feel crucial or like a big cheat to me.

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