New details about season 4 episodes 2 and 3
By Ours is the Fury on in Press.

Stannis, Davos and Selyse
TV Guide has been updated with not only more detailed Game of Thrones synposes but with the guest cast listing for the next episodes. The fleshed-out synopses give some clearer and more intriguing ideas about what to expect in episodes 2 and 3. The guest cast listing provides a few nice tidbits as well.

If you prefer to remain entirely Unsullied, proceed with caution, as the synopses contain hints of the future and may be considered spoilers by some.

Episode 402: “The Lion and the Rose”
Synopsis: A who’s who of honored guests turns out for Joffrey and Margaery’s wedding in King’s Landing, but the king’s taste in entertainment rubs many of them the wrong way. Meanwhile, Bronn gives a lesson to an unlikely pupil; Bran’s vision helps map out his journey; Stannis loses patience with Davos; and Ramsay takes a perverse delight in his new pet.
Original Air Date: Apr 13, 2014

Guest Cast:
Julian Glover: Grand Maester Pycelle
Noah Taylor: Locke
Iwan Rheon: Ramsay Snow
Pedro Pascal: Oberyn Martell
Ian Beattie: Meryn Trant
Diana Rigg: Olenna Tyrell
Michael McElhatton: Roose Bolton
Tony Way: Dontos Hollard
Kristian Nairn: Hodor
Ellie Kendrick: Meera Reed
Indira Varma: Ellaria Sand

Episode 403: “Breaker of Chains”
Synopsis: In the frenzied aftermath of the royal wedding, Tyrion gets a visit from a loyal subject, but wonders if anyone in his family will help him out of his current predicament. Meanwhile, Tywin offers to work for the common good with a presumed enemy; Sam takes stock of the personnel at Castle Black; the Hound gives another life lesson to Arya; and Daenerys makes a decision outside the walls of Meereen.
Original Air Date: Apr 20, 2014

Guest Cast:
Ben Crompton: Dolorous Edd
Jacob Anderson: Grey Worm
Josef Altin: Pyp
Nathalie Emmanuel: Missandei
Lu Corfield
Ian McElhinney: Barristan Selmy
Michiel Huisman: Daario Naharis
Diana Rigg: Olenna Tyrell
Brian Fortune: Othell Yarwyck
Joel Fry: Hizdahr zo Loraq
Ian Beattie: Meryn Trant
Peter Vaughan: Maester Aemon
Hannah Murray: Gilly
Indira Varma: Ellaria Sand
Tony Way: Dontos Hollard
Pedro Pascal: Oberyn Martell
Owen Teale: Alliser Thorne
Finbar Lynch
Julian Glover: Grand Maester Pycelle

Ours is the Fury: I’m surprised we’re meeting Hizdahr as early as episode 3, but I can’t wait to see him nonetheless! Noah Taylor is returning in this week’s episode, which is exciting. Episode 3 looks to be a nice Night’s Watch episode. Lu Corfield’s role isn’t listed here but we know that she’s playing a Mole’s Town madame, so her interactions may be with the NW.

Update: One of our sources has confirmed that in season 4 Brian Fortune is playing Othell Yarwyck, not Bowen Marsh as TV Guide was reporting. I’ve amended the above post to reflect that.


120 Comments

  1. Rygar
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    I’m out of here

  2. Ours the fury is!
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Where is Mace?

  3. shafiqshafiq
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    King in The North!

  4. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    I’m out of here

    No, get — oh you trickster.

    Ours the fury is!:
    Where is Mace?

    Precisely why some of us realized the guest list is only partial.

  5. Rygar
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Bowen Marsh?

  6. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Bowen Marsh?

    He was in 4×01, even.

  7. Ours the fury is!
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Hizdahr is going to take wing.

  8. wizardeyes
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Hmm some interesting stuff. Roose in episode 2? Is he reaching the dreadfort this soon?? Also pleased to see Locke back because Noah Taylor is awesome. Also interesting that Bowen Marsh is there… And yay Dolorous Edd!

  9. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    Also no Mark Stanley (Grenn) credited though we do know he’s returning and will appear if Ben Crompton (Edd) is appearing. These lists must be incomplete.

    I wonder if they’re right though, and Iwan Rheon and Michael McElhatton are still only guest cast.

    We also have one mystery: Who is Finbar Lynch playing? We know Lyn Corfield is playing “Mole’s Town Madam” because Fury unveiled that months and months ago, but what about this Finbar character?

  10. Summer is Coming
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    I thought Iwan Rheon and Michael McEllhaton were upgraded to main cast. But Diana Rigg was supposed to be as well, but it isn’t so..

    Oh I am soo gonna miss Joffrey! :( No Ramsay will ever replace him! *sob* I hope people from WiC.net have the Curtain Call prepared for Jack Gleeson… If not… well we’re gonna have a problem!

  11. Kris
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    There is a spoilery tidbit here http://www.eonline.com/news/530691/spoiler-chat-scoop-on-true-blood-the-big-bang-theory-game-of-thrones-and-more about what will go down at Dragonstone in episode 2.

  12. Rygar
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor: He was in 4×01, even.

    Huh. Well, pickle me a penis.

  13. wizardeyes
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    In the frenzied aftermath of the royal wedding, Tyrion gets a visit from a loyal subject – Pod I assume

    but wonders if anyone in his family will help him out of his current predicament – I reckon they’ll leave Tyrion to stew for a while to build tension before Jaime comes to him probably toward the end of the episode

    Meanwhile, Tywin offers to work for the common good with a presumed enemy – Oberyn?

    Sam takes stock of the personnel at Castle Black; the Hound gives another life lesson to Arya – probably when they meet that dying man and discuss giving him mercy
    Daenerys makes a decision outside the walls of Meereen. – Chooses Daario as her champion

  14. zod
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    “Tywin offers to work for the common good with a presumed enemy”

    Dany? They talk about her in the latest trailer (the one with the shitty quality).

  15. Ours is the Fury
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    It’s clearly not a complete list, since Thomas Brodie Sangster and others are missing but it’s a nice start.

  16. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Rygar: Huh. Well, pickle me a penis.

    Vayjays and vinegar behind us, my friend.

  17. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    zod,

    Oberyn. His offer that he join the Small Council and sit as a judge in Tyrion’s trial. I would like to see his smirking face when he hears about Dany and her dragons while on the Small Council though.

  18. JamesL
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    I figured episode 2 would end with Littlefinger killing Dontos and taking Sansa but it looks like that will open episode 3 because the actor who plays Dontos is credited for that episode also.

  19. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    Episode 2 is so very obviously ending with a kingly death. Closing with Dontos’ curtain call would seem utterly trivial by comparison.

  20. Dolorous Ned
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Ours the fury is!:
    Hizdahr is going to take wing.

    Chicken Wing?

  21. wizardeyes
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    I think its pretty obvious episode 2 will end with Cersei screaming for Tyrion to be arrested.

  22. Andrew
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    The TvGuide description for Episode 1 was accurate (if incomplete) in terms of who was in the episode and billed as a guest star, so it looks like these are to be believed. So yeah, it looks like Rigg, Rheon, and McElhatton are still recurring despite what the press release said. Weird how there’s a discrepancy every year.
    Season 2: Gethin Anthony, Ron Donachie, and Donald Sumpter were regulars on the press release, but guests in the closing credits.
    Season 3: Gwendoline Christie on the press release, but Joe Dempsie and Oona Chaplin in the opening titles instead.
    We likely won’t know for certain until tomorrow night, but based on their absence from these descriptions I would go out on a limb and guess Finn Jones, Thomas Brodie Sangster, and Dean Charles Chapman got the promotion instead of Olenna and the Boltons.
    Again, so weird. Can anyone shed light on why the credits would say one thing and the press releases another? At least Gwendoline is finally in the opening titles. She should have been from the get-go.

  23. Sanna
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Pyp AND Edd! Hooray!

  24. wizardeyes
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Any news of Loras joining the KG this season ??

    I really want a scene where Jaime talks to Loras and tells him about the Smiling Knight and Arthur Dayne. I also hope they invent some Jaime/ Tommen scenes for the show.

  25. Tyrionisthebest
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Hahaha, wait i thought you were gone !

  26. BTR
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    wizardeyes,

    The loyal subject is probably Oberyn, no?

  27. sati
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    zod,

    I think that synopsis refers to Oberyn being asked to be a judge

  28. sati
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    BTR,

    Pod, Oberyn won’t visit until ep 6 or 7.

  29. wizardeyes
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    BTR,

    Nah that won’t be till later on. Episode 6 or 7 probably. And Oberyn isn’t anyone’s subject haha

  30. Crabber's Son
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    KEVANNNNN????? Where have you gone to??? Maybe tending to lancel’s wound? Also i guess Dontos isnt killed in episode 2 like i thought he would meaning it doesnt end with boat scene

  31. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    I’ll be paying close attention to how they treat Sansa in this episode, especially with the necklace in play. Why didn’t Dontos just say “Please wear it to the wedding”? Aggghhh! Will Sansa be pulled away as Joff starts to get ill or will she take a more proactive stance and just run…? Will she notice that a necklace stone is missing after an encounter with another guest? How are they gonna work this? For some reason, I care more about this than Joff’s death. Give Sansa some proactive respect, dammit!

    I wouldn’t mind being surprised either.

  32. Delta1212
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    What are the odds that Ramsay’s “new pet” is actually a dog, and not Theon?

  33. Josla
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor,
    So Oberyn will bite it in episode 7 It seems… so what will Tyrion be doing for the next three episodes?

  34. Valyrian Plastic
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Crabber’s Son,

    I hope the news of Tywin’s death will bring Kevan to the capital, and his absence is explained as organizing the clean-up of the Westerlands and becoming castellan of Casterly Rock in Jaime’s stead or something along those lines. It better not be the end of him and Lancel just yet. I don’t want Pycelle taking his role like he did for the High Septon in season 1 DAMMIT!

    On a similar note, I really hope they give some of Garlan’s lines at the wedding to Loras, given that he’s not a Kingsguard knight (yet?) and may be seated at the high table with his family. Only because Garlan is my second favourite Tyrell in the books, after Olenna. It’s a shame he doesn’t even exist off-screen in the show-canon.

  35. Delta1212
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Josla,

    Considering episode 8 is The Mountain and the Viper, I don’t think he dies in 7.

  36. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Josla,

    Episode 8. Just look at the title.

  37. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Josla:
    Jeff O’Connor,
    So Oberyn will bite it in episode 7 It seems… so what will Tyrion be doing for the next three episodes?

    Depends on what you mean by “bite it.” The RV will probably bite someone in a playful sexual manner in ep 7 but the RV vs Mountain death duel is most likely in ep 8.

  38. Hath4
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Delta1212,

    Well ramsays bitches will be introduced in this episode and ramsay sets them on the girl he is hunting and they tear her apart as he reek and myranda watch. This breaks reek for good. But the desorption probably refers to him finding use of reek as his plaything.

  39. Josla
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Delta1212: Josla,

    Considering episode 8 is The Mountain and the Viper, I don’t think he dies in 7.

    My bad. For some reason I thought it was episode 7.
    I suppose we won’t see him in episode 9 then, right?

  40. Chriss
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    Josla:
    Jeff O’Connor,
    So Oberyn will bite it in episode 7 It seems… so what will Tyrion be doing for the next three episodes?

    I thought we know that he dies in episode 8?

  41. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Josla,

    Yes, episode 9 is exclusively at the Wall.

  42. Boojam
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    It’s getting weird that HBO does not list titles for episodes 8,9 and 10.
    I know someone posted that a foreign TV service had them listed, but I don’t consider that official or reliable.

  43. Josla
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Thanks again for clarifying. It makes sense now :-)

  44. Summer is Coming
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Sansa’s hair in the preview: In the Sept is that elaborate hair, then when Joffrey slices the gift book from Tyrion, she has her hair loose, but when Joffrey yells “Kneel!” her hair is the elaborate thing again! What’s going on?

    It will be interesting to see if Dean Charles Chapman appears in the opening credits… transitioning from Joffrey, First of His Name to Tommen, First of His Name. Why do I feel so excited about having a new King? also when Sansa says, “We have a new Queen” I had goosebumps.

    Boojam, we have ep 8; is “The Mountain and the Viper”

    This episode “The Lion and the Rose” is the shortest among the first 8 – 52 minutes; on par with “The Rains of Castamere” – I guess it’s appropriate, being another surprising wedding

  45. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Summer is Coming,

    Because one scene is at a morning breakfast and the other is at the wedding.

  46. Ser Davos Seaworth
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Mace? Selyse? Shireen? Loras? Jojen? Grenn? Tommen? Coldhands? All should be on these lists… Unless they’re promoted to regulars… I highly doubt it (possibly tommen, Loras and jojen but 100% not the rest)

  47. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Boojam,

    I doubted them too but they are confirmed now. The HBO schedule has included “the Mountain and the Viper” for episode eight, so that means that the other two “the Watchers on the Wall” and “the Children” are legit too.

  48. Renly's Peach
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    These are incomplete. We know for a fact Mace Tyrell is going to be in episode 2 because he’s given interviews and we’ve seen footage of it already.

  49. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Ser Davos Seaworth,

    Lol. Coldhands isn’t even in the show.

  50. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Ser Davos Seaworth,
    Lol. Coldhands isn’t even in the show.

    Sad truth, it seems.

  51. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Not for me. He was just an extension of Bloodraven. No great loss. I’m already concerned with how the audience will take to the new supernatural elements introduced this season. No need for a talking Wight who rides an elk too.

  52. Delta1212
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Hath4,

    Unless they’re trolling everyone knowing we’d think that’s what it refers to when they actually meant it literally. A double-bluff.

  53. Andrew
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Just for the heck of it, I browsed ALL of the TVGuide episode descriptions for Seasons 1-3, and Finn Jones and Thomas Sangster aren’t listed on any of them. TVGuide usually retroactively updates these descriptions as shows progress, so I would absolutely guess they know something we don’t. Yes, they’re obviously incomplete. Yes, we know Mace and Tommen and Grenn and Selyse etc. are in these episodes and they aren’t listed. But my hunch is that we’ll see Loras and Jojen in the opening credits tomorrow.

  54. hargard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor: Bowen

    Was he the one beside Slynt?

  55. Crabber's Son
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Shouldnt tommen be a little kid whos immature rather than someone who seems like hes joffreys age

  56. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Exactly. I hope that Aemon reminisces about Bloodraven his bastard great-uncle (or whatever he is) being LC and then going north of the Wall. Just to set up his appearance a little more.

    But yeah, maybe some unsullied will be put off by the COTF and some of the supernatural elements that accompany their showing up.

  57. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Hodor’s Bastard,
    …He was just an extension of Bloodraven.

    Exactly…I am intrigued that he/it represents another aspect of WWs & wights other than blatant killing machines….not necessarily good or evil.

  58. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    hargard,

    He was beside Aemon. He helped him down the stairs. It’s Brian Fortune the same actor who played Marsh in S1, just without the long hair. I linked his twitter on a previous thread if anyone wants to ask him about his role in the show. I doubt he’d answer clearly though because Fury asked him whether he’d be in the show again in the summer and he didn’t give a clear answer then.

  59. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Jinx. We both said exactly. How about that.

  60. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    Hodor’s Bastard,
    Jinx. We both said exactly. How about that.

    You owe me a coke. ;)

  61. Udi
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Dolorous Ned,

    Los Pollos Hermanos por favor!

  62. hargard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Interesting, I didn’t recognize him. But I’m glad that they brought him back. Generally positively surprised on how many familiar faces they decided to bring back, even though many were gone since season 1.

    That said, I will never forgive them for dropping the Greatjon.:/

  63. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    hargard,

    For all we know he’ll be the Umber harbouring Rickon.

  64. wizardeyes
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Valyrian Plastic,

    I hope that the show will have Garlan and Willas as cousins of Loras and Marg, just to reference them at least. Garlan is such a cool dude and Willas sounds awesome (really hope we get to meet him in the books).

  65. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    Crabber’s Son,

    Yes. And so should Bran. But in case you haven’t noticed, kids grow. Even the original Tommen is probably much older looking by now, as he is the same age as Isaac(Bran). I wouldn’t expect the same Tommen from the books.

  66. hargard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Possible, if an Umber is actually harbouring the kid. He technically could also replace one of his uncles. They could even give him an eyepatch like Mors, explaining that he got seriously wounded offscreen during season 2, which is why he was absent from the RW. He was one of the more memorable old whitebearded guys on the show, so I think show viewers would remember the guy that made Robb king.

    That said, I don’t expect it. The way he was dropped from the show makes me think that they didn’t part on the best terms (same as with Conan Stevens).

  67. No One
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    No Richard Madden’s head?

    I’m still worried about Joffrey’s comment in ep 10 of last season that he wants to have it served to Sansa at his wedding feast. If he’s had enough time to commission a statue of himself killing a wolf, then he’s probably had enough time to have the head shipped down to him too.

  68. Valyrian Plastic
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    hargard,

    It would be awesome if they not only invite Clive Mantle back, but also cast Brian Blessed as Mors Umber. Then he could go into battle on the ice roaring “Greatjon’s Alive!” :D.

  69. Valyrian Plastic
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    No One,

    Knowing the Freys, they probably scooped out all the brains, stopped the eyeholes with clay and made it into a chamberpot.

  70. hargard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Valyrian Plastic,

    There can never be enough Umbers.

  71. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    No One:
    If he’s had enough time to commission a statue of himself killing a wolf, then he’s probably had enough time to have the head shipped down to him too.

    If so, don’t let Qyburn get hold of it! He may find a grotesque use for it by the end of the season.

  72. Maester Victor
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    hargard,

    Hear, hear! Never enough Umbers!!

  73. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,
    It seems like I got you and Turncloak mixed up in my prev post on the “Axey Fab” thread…I repeat for you (since I found our discussion via search)…

    OT: Back on May 28, 2013, when they started announcing that Styr would be cast, you and I had a discussion regarding the Tormund and Styr switcheroo. In summary, I was wondering if Tormund would suffer the same fate as Styr did in the books and show Styr would carry on north of the wall. But you stated that Styr would probably climb the wall separately and meet up with Tormund & Co south of the wall.

    …which is exactly what happened. Damn good prediction, ser. :)

  74. anders
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    Hmm… im thinking that maybe Jon becomes Lord Commander before the attack on the wall.

  75. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Also, remember the leaked audition video? With the creepy guy from the American Girl with the Dragon Tattoo auditioning for Styr? That was pretty much word for word the scene we saw last Sunday.

  76. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Yeah…a key leak. I’ve been scrolling through those old threads (via search), filtering out various predictions and seeing how everyone did. I never would have thought that Styr & Tormund would team up. I guess the showrunners really liked the Tormund character. And now they are realigning with the books a bit…my bet is that Tormund is captured and sent with Jon to “treat” with Mance. Also, having the Thenns in the wildling party south of the wall will make the Mole’s Town massacre even more gruesome.

    Still trying to wrap my head around the Thenns as cannibals though…they combined the Thenns with the ice river clans (and maybe even the Skaagosi). But they were the civilized wildlings! :)

  77. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    I think they made the Thenns more overtly antagonistic so that the Wildlings wouldn’t seem quite as sympathetic. Until now they’ve seemed pretty cool and benign. Now we know that allowing them to have their way and allowing things to go as Mance wants them to would have negative consequences.

  78. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Like Greenjones said, it was easy to put two and two together following the leaked audition tape. I’m still not sure how they plan on handling Tormund, specifically how they can make him survive and not be condemned to death for attacking Castle Black.

  79. Patty
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    Maester Victor,

    U guys are funny ;)

  80. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Yeah, and him duelling Thorne makes our speculation even tougher. I hope that they won’t kill either man, but I think that its likely that Tormund will have more plot importance later on. So if they have to kill one, in that case kill Alliser.

    Hopefully making Kristofer part of the main cast is an indicator that he will live. But then it wasn’t with Oona Chaplin, so who knows.

  81. jentario
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    Wait. Brian Fortune who was the unnamed Bowen Marsh… Is now Othell Yarwick?! This kind of implies that they plan on casting Bowen Marsh, doesn’t it?

  82. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    jentario,

    Well, shit. I hadn’t noticed that. I thought the TV guide page had said he was Bowen Marsh just yesterday.

    EDIT: Ah, I see it was an update that changed that bit of info. Interesting.

  83. Bui Huu Duyet
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Cersei scream episode 2 to the end. Wait for the “Purple Wedding reaction”!

  84. Dnis
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    So if Bowen Marsh was sitting to Aemon’s left, who was sitting to Janos Slynt’s right?

  85. Greenjones
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    And who do your sources in the show say that Finbar Lynch is cast as, Fury?

  86. StMB
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Only Stannis

  87. UnbowedUnbentUnhodor
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    looking forward to seeing that crazy baby fetus in jar bitch named selyse. Shes an interesting character. Also shireen, shes cool

  88. Ser Tahu
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 11:35 pm | Permalink

    That news about Brian Fortune’s role is quite interesting. As others have said, I think it could be an indication that they plan to recast Bowen Marsh in the future.

  89. Chickenduck
    Posted April 12, 2014 at 11:38 pm | Permalink

    jentario:
    Wait. Brian Fortune who was the unnamed Bowen Marsh… Is now Othell Yarwick?! This kind of implies that they plan on casting Bowen Marsh, doesn’t it?

    In the end credits of last week, he was listed as Bowen Marsh.

    In S1, he was officially just “Night Watch member” on the credits, but apparently with the possibility of being “upgraded to officially being Bowen Marsh” in future.

    Othell was one of the dead guys they brought back to the wall in S1, and referred to by name (by Bowen Marsh) in dialogue on-screen.

  90. King Tommen
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck: In the end credits of last week, he was listed as Bowen Marsh.

    In S1, he was officially just “Night Watch member” on the credits, but apparently with the possibility of being “upgraded to officially being Bowen Marsh” in future.

    Othell was one of the dead guys they brought back to the wall in S1, and referred to by name (by Bowen Marsh) in dialogue on-screen.

    Couple corrections: Brian Fortune was listed in the end credits for E1 but as with all actors there, no corresponding character was given. People jumped to the conclusion that the character who Fortune was playing (helping Aemon down the stairs after Jon’s “trial”) was Bowen Marsh because that’s who he was sort of playing way back in Season 1.

    Truthfully, Bowen Marsh got namechecked by someone in the Night’s Watch in S1 and since Fortune’s character had a line or two and did a couple of things with the NW recruits that Marsh did in the books, it was just assumed that’s who he was. I don’t think he was ever officially listed by HBO as anything more than “Night Watch member” during S1. He was basically a featured extra.

    As far as Othell Yarwyck, he was another random NW member who hung out in the background during S1. He was not one of the dead rangers brought back to Castle Black who attacked Mormont. Those were Jafer Flowers and Othor. Yarwyck is a builder, not a ranger.

    It appears as if they were comfortable having Fortune come back as a familiar face in the NW and perhaps he’ll play a little role later on but more likely, they don’t want to saddle him with too much more than a featured extra role so they decided to just make him into Yarwyck who is a NW member working under Jon’s command and is unhappy with the way things are going but is more of a silent figure with Bowen Marsh being the main antagonist there.

    This probably means that they want to bring in a completely new more established actor for Bowen Marsh in S5 or they plan on giving the actions of Bowen Marsh to an existing NW member who the audience already knows. The Marsh role is a fairly pivotal one and I doubt they want to give it to an actor they originally cast to stand around in the background.

  91. Stark Raving Mad
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 12:45 am | Permalink

    I’m looking forward to E2 and catching up with the people we haven’t seen yet.

    Does anyone know why they went with a necklace instead of a headdress for Sansa? The headdress makes it easier not to notice a missing stone. It’s been awhile since I’ve read the books. I can’t remember of Sansa ever realizes it’s gone. Besides, someone would have more call to “straighten” a headdress than they would a necklace. I’d smack someone’s hand away if they reached towards my chest/throat. It just seems like an odd detail to change.

  92. Pepi
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 1:28 am | Permalink

    King Tommen,

    The actor, who we assumed was playing Othell Yarwyck was seen in seasons 1, 2 and 3. He was never named in the show (like Bowen Marsh, Jonos Bracken and some of the others) but he was established as the first builder, since he was the one to call the builders after the LC’s speech.

  93. zambi76
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 3:59 am | Permalink

    wizardeyes: Any news of Loras joining the KG this season ??

    I really want a scene where Jaime talks to Loras and tells him about the Smiling Knight and Arthur Dayne. I also hope they invent some Jaime/ Tommen scenes for the show.

    It’s highly unlikely this season (maybe next) from what I’ve read. This season they even seem to double down on the Loras & Cersei relationship for whatever reasons. Finn said he had a few scenes with Lena where they try to “outsass” each other. But Finn still has hope for some Loras & Jaime goodness for next season I think.

  94. Winterdark
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 4:54 am | Permalink

    Both these episodes sound really cool. I didn’t much like the premiere but the next two are definitely gonna make up for that. Catching up with a lot of my favourite characters. I’m especially looking forward to ep3. It seems we will get the Greyjoy arc from the books after all and YES!!!! Hizahr zo Loraq! I didn’t know he was cast already. That means my predictions for Dany’s arc this season will come true and we will get Dany in marital trouble Can’t wait to see that.

  95. Dragonslayer
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 5:21 am | Permalink

    Winterdark,

    I always assumed that they would introduce the Hizdahr character earley with him organizing the Meereenese defences.

    Please excuse my English.

  96. Yanis Josephine
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 6:00 am | Permalink

    Looking forward to seeing the viewers reaction on Youtube!

  97. dragonreborn
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 6:53 am | Permalink

    Kris,

    so the episode will end when joff dies?
    I’d prefer a little aftermath, but it’s ok as long as we see the shocked faces of people around for a moment.

  98. Bard
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 7:31 am | Permalink

    Winterdark: It seems we will get the Greyjoy arc from the books after all

    What makes you say that?

  99. Chickenduck
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    King Tommen
    As far as Othell Yarwyck, he was another random NW member who hung out in the background during S1. He was not one of the dead rangers brought back to Castle Black who attacked Mormont. Those were Jafer Flowers and Othor. Yarwyck is a builder, not a ranger.

    Ah. Quite right – I had confused Othor with Othell…

    It does make sense to cast a “real” Marsh in future when the character is a little more central.

  100. Matt
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    Is Hizdahr one of anyone else’s favorite characters in the series? He’s just so laughably pathetic it makes it fun following him around.

  101. wizardeyes
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    Matt,

    He’s not exactly one of my favourite characters but I do find his pathetic-ness very enjoyable. His finest moment is definitely when he hides from Barristan behind a tapestry.

  102. Bryan Cogman
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Pepi,

    We never established another actor as Yarwyck. The wiki lists Dennis McKeever as Yarwyck, but that’s incorrect.

  103. anabbloggin
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    Please check out my post about who I think Lu Corfield is really playing (contains spoilers for non-readers):

    http://anabbloggin.wordpress.com/2014/04/13/is-it-just-me-or-got-spoilers-ahead/

  104. oracle86
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    BTW, where are the Episode Guide, Cast and Crew pages of Wicnet now? They aren’t visible in the new layout.

  105. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    anabbloggin,

    One of the WiC Live co-hosts looks like Nana Visitor, too, but I haven’t started any theories that Star Trek: Deep Space Nine’s own Kira Nerys is back. I don’t mean to sound as rude as that probably comes off as, but I really think you’re stretching, because it’s a third-episode jaunt and some early screener critic somewhere would have alluded to a massive surprise there instead of only mentioning one in the second episode. There’s also zero reason to believe Michelle Fairley won’t be back for the role, either, is there? Some people look kind of like other people, many times IMDB is slow to the draw, no synopsis has ever been remotely all-encompassing and none of the guest lists have been exhaustive.

    Really reaching IMO.

  106. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    oracle86:
    BTW, where are the Episode Guide, Cast and Crew pages of Wicnet now? They aren’t visible in the new layout.

    I fear they may have been consumed by Wildfire during the siege.

  107. anabbloggin
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor,

    Oh well, they do look alike, so it’s a theory. No reason why she wouldn’t do it herself, cept maybe the pay.for such a short appearance it could make sense to get someone who has the same look.

    Maybe in later seasons, could be her again. Slap on some makeup (+makeup talent) and I probably couldn’t tell which was which.

    The critic comment is the best point I guess. Someone probably would have hinted at it, unless they were forbidden to do so. But even then, just hinting with “surprise” or “old friend” would suffice, and keep it really vague.

  108. King Tommen
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    anabbloggin:
    Jeff O’Connor,

    Oh well, they do look alike, so it’s a theory. No reason why she wouldn’t do it herself, cept maybe the pay.for such a short appearance it could make sense to get someone who has the same look.

    Maybe in later seasons, could be her again. Slap on some makeup (+makeup talent) and I probably couldn’t tell which was which.

    The critic comment is the best point I guess. Someone probably would have hinted at it, unless they were forbidden to do so. But even then, just hinting with “surprise” or “old friend” would suffice, and keep it really vague.

    Spoiler ahead from those who have seen the 1st three episodes. Don’t look if you don’t want to know a plot point from future episodes.

    In E3, Sam takes Gilly to Moletown in order to keep her safe from the upcoming battle. He leaves her there with instructions for her not to be whored out. Presumably you would need him to talk to the madam of Mole’s Town which is why that character would be appearing in the episode. Hopefully that clears things up.

  109. anabbloggin
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    King Tommen,

    Damn.

  110. lol
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    I strongly suspect that Cersei’s first act as Hand of the King will be to put Loras on the Kingsguard as a massive FU to the Tyrells.

  111. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    King Tommen:
    In E3, Sam takes Gilly to Moletown in order to keep her safe from the upcoming battle. He leaves her there with instructions for her not to be whored out. Presumably you would need him to talk to the madam of Mole’s Town which is why that character would be appearing in the episode. Hopefully that clears things up.

    Doesn’t seem too wise to put Gilly & child directly in the path of the oncoming wildlings/Thenns from the south. I hope they escape the coming massacre.

    Where the heck is Ghost?

  112. King Tommen
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: Doesn’t seem too wise to put Gilly & child directly in the path of the oncoming wildlings/Thenns from the south. I hope they escape the coming massacre.

    Sam has no way of knowing this is going to happen. He just wants to get her out of the line of fire from the upcoming battle at Castle Black, probably doesn’t occur to him that Mole Town could be a target.

    And John Bradley did an interview recently that talked about Sam making some bad decisions early in the season based around his feelings of inadequacy and/or cowardice (this I assume is the main one) but that as the season progresses, he redeems himself and becomes more heroic.

  113. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    King Tommen: Sam has no way of knowing this is going to happen. He just wants to get her out of the line of fire from the upcoming battle at Castle Black, probably doesn’t occur to him that Mole Town could be a target.

    Cool. I wonder if Sam makes this decision on his own without consulting Jon, who I hope would assume that Mole’s Town is at risk since he recently arrived from south of there. Just seems odd…definitely a bad decision.

    By the way, Jon sure heals fast.

  114. Pepi
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Bryan Cogman,

    Yeah, I know (but thanks for making it official). Yarwyck or no, you can’t blame one to assume Dennis McKeever’s character to be the first builder, though. I mean, wiki has given a lot of extras book character names and I can see their logic behind naming this guy Othell Yarwyck. More so than the logic behind naming this guy Gyles Rosby or this guy Aron Santagar. :)

    Offtopic (although wiki related): never saw this picture of lady Anya Waynwood and lord Yohn Royce before. Were they in a trailer?

  115. zambi76
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    lol: I strongly suspect that Cersei’s first act as Hand of the King will be to put Loras on the Kingsguard as a massive FU to the Tyrells.

    That would be insane. Even by AFFC!Cersei standards and that’s quite saying something.

  116. jentario
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Bryan Cogman,

    Your replies here are appreciated, Bryan. Thanks :)

  117. Matt
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    I find the absolute lack of Kevan Lannister troubling…

  118. Chris
    Posted April 13, 2014 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    Summer is Coming,

    …and may our favorite monster find happier days in the future. I hope he goes on to some nice friendly role in a romantic comedy. Someone likeable, y’know?

  119. WildSeed
    Posted April 14, 2014 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    hmm. ..good point , all of you. The episode had me pondering on this until I read this and recollected last year’s discussion thread.

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