HBO releases details on the May episodes of Game of Thrones Season Four
By Lightbringer on in News.

HBO has issued a press release revealing synopses for the episodes of Game of Thrones Season Four that will air in May. We’ll be treated to only three episodes in May, with an agonizingly long one week break following the seventh episode. Details for episodes five through seven after the break.

Episode #35: “First of His Name”
Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 4 (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET/PT)
Cersei (Lena Headey) and Tywin (Charles Dance) plot the Crown’s next move. Dany (Emilia Clarke) discusses future plans. Jon (Kit Harington) embarks on a new mission.
Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by Michelle MacLaren.

Episode #36: “The Laws of Gods and Men”
Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 11 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
Stannis (Stephen Dillane) and Davos (Liam Cunningham) set sail with a new strategy. Dany meets with supplicants. Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) faces down his father in the throne room.
Written by Bryan Cogman; directed by Alik Sakharov.

Episode #37: “Mockingbird”
Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 18 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
Tyrion enlists an unlikely ally. Daario (Michiel Huisman) entreats Dany to allow him to do what he does best. Jon’s warnings about the Wall’s vulnerability fall on deaf ears. Brienne (Gwendoline Christie) follows a new lead on the road with Pod (Daniel Portman).
Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by Alik Sakharov.


88 Comments

  1. ebevan91
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Was it rape?

  2. Deekan
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    The Red Viper!!

  3. Jambo
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Pretty interesting they would mention Brienne and Pod teaming up in the synopsis.

  4. KatherineW
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Daario (Michiel Huisman) entreats Dany to allow him to do what he does best.

    Heh. Now I want to see Huisman fight Hugh Jackman to see who really is best.

    They’re being deliberately (and annoying) vague about what’s coming up – not even a word about what’s going on with Sansa and Littlefinger in “Mockingbird” despite the episode being named for him. Though now we know for sure that we’re getting into Brienne’s Feast for Crows plot this season.

    It’s pretty clear from the titles and summaries that Episode 6 (The Laws of Gods and Men) is Tyrion’s trial. Reading between the lines, I’m guessing that Episodes 5 and 6 involve a major Jorah and Dany event.

  5. Greatchris Umber
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    ‘Dany discusses future plans’
    ‘Dany meets with supplicants’
    ‘Daario entreats Dany to allow him to do what he does best’

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    In other words, the ‘Stalling at Meereen’ arc begins…

  6. Deekan
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Jambo,

    It is probably not gonna be a big reveal like in the books though, and if a person is looking at episode synopses they are probably secretly looking for minor spoilers

  7. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    So there is a one week delay (no show on May 25 – Memorial Day) before we get punched by the last three episodes? Bam – Bam – Bam! So thrilled. Graves – Marshall – Graves!

  8. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Off topic but gah sometimes the former TWOP/Previously.tv UnSullied boards are irritated to read! One of the most prominent posters says the show failed on providing insights on Robert’s Rebellion….wish I could say WE DONT KNOW EITHER! But that would be violating the Prime Detective.
    In that poster’s defence the show does need to explain how Viserys and his mother escaped, why Dany is called “stormborn” and her time on Dragonstone etc.

  9. Deekan
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Greatchris Umber,

    If that’s the way you look at it, then we’ve been stalled at King’s Landing for over three seasons…doesn’t make it any less awesome.

  10. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Gods damn edit button!

    Irritating.

    Directive.

  11. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    ‘Stannis (Stephen Dillane) and Davos (Liam Cunningham) set sail with a new strategy.’

    So they won’t be leaving Dragonstone until episode 6? I know they probably won’t appear in both of the next 2 episodes, but I had hoped they would be in Braavos by that point. It doesn’t leave much time to travel from Dragonstone to the Wall, with a pit stop in Braavos.

  12. wizardeyes
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Okay so here’s why I can figure out

    “First of His Name” – Suggests Tommen’s coronation?

    “Cersei (Lena Headey) and Tywin (Charles Dance) plot the Crown’s next move” – Discussing Tyrion’s trial and relationship with the Tyrells.

    “Dany (Emilia Clarke) discusses future plans.” – Her deciding to stay and rule Meereen

    Jon (Kit Harington) embarks on a new mission. – Jon and his recruits go to Craster’s Keep and fight the mutineers. From preview footage there seems to be a Jon vs Karl swordfight!

    The Laws of Gods and Men

    “Stannis (Stephen Dillane) and Davos (Liam Cunningham) set sail with a new strategy.” – They leave Dragonstone with the plan to head to Braavos

    “Dany meets with supplicants.” – Dany holds court in her throne room?

    “Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) faces down his father in the throne room.” – Tyrion’s trial begins

    Mockingbird – Suggests Littlefinger

    “Tyrion enlists an unlikely ally.” – Oberyn offers to be Tyrion’s champion

    “Daario (Michiel Huisman) entreats Dany to allow him to do what he does best.” – Sex? Sex. Definitely sex.

    “Jon’s warnings about the Wall’s vulnerability fall on deaf ears.” – More of Jon clashing with Alliser Thorne and Janos Slynt

    “Brienne (Gwendoline Christie) follows a new lead on the road with Pod (Daniel Portman).” - Could they hear rumours that she’s at the Eyrie?

  13. arden
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Expecting great things from Sakharov and Cogman (6)
    Have a feeling Brienne will stop with Pod at that farm the Hound and Arya were at.

  14. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    wizardeyes:
    “Brienne (Gwendoline Christie) follows a new lead on the road with Pod (Daniel Portman).” - Could they hear rumours that she’s at the Eyrie?

    I bet B & P hear about the activities of a teenage girl with the Hound and start travelling toward the Inn at the Crossroads, the Vale, BwB and LS

  15. mariamb
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    ‘Stannis (Stephen Dillane) and Davos (Liam Cunningham) set sail with a new strategy.’

    So they won’t be leaving Dragonstone until episode 6? I know they probably won’t appear in both of the next 2 episodes, but I had hoped they would be in Braavos by that point. It doesn’t leave much time to travel from Dragonstone to the Wall, with a pit stop in Braavos.

    Lots of wasted time hanging around Dragonstone. Thought there would be a greater sense of urgency.

    KatherineW:

    They’re being deliberately (and annoying) vague about what’s coming up – not even a word about what’s going on with Sansa and Littlefinger in “Mockingbird” despite the episode being named for him.

    Annoyingly vague is a good way to describe it. I am looking forward to Sansa’s storyline this year.

  16. GG
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    So can we basically all agree that LS is happening this season? I mean, what are they gonna do with Brienne & Pod if it doesn’t?

  17. Grimnir
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    http://happyplace.someecards.com/30843/leaked-script-for-controversial-game-of-thrones-rape-scene

    by the way, very insightful.
    I hope this jape will be the final coffin for the ‘rape’.

  18. Walter Harrow
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Not on mentioned of Arya :(

    Im sure she is going to be in episode 8 (fight, leaves wounded Hound) and the final episode (boarding ship) but i really dont want her to be left out of too many episodes. Does anyone know which directors she has worked with?

  19. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I can’t really blame them for wanting those gaps to be filled in. We know, as book readers, why the rebellion started. We know how Viserys and a pregnant Queen Rhaella escaped. We know who spirited Viserys and a baby Dany away from Dragonstone. I think in the case of Brandon and Rickard being killed by Aerys, and the resulting order for Jon Arryn to execute Ned and Robert, the show would have been wise to reveal those details.

    I get more frustrated when they spend post after post going over their love for Shae and how important she could be. A couple of the posters actually brought up Shae as a potential dragon rider. LOL. Some posters, particularly ‘stillshimpy’, only seem to care about a quarter of the storylines, mostly having to do with the “good guys”. Sometimes I’d like to jump in and remind them, “If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention.”

  20. mariamb
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I can’t blame them either. I’ve read the books and I still have a few questions. I think that Robert’s Rebellion – and the events leading up to it – are fascinating but I’m fairly sure that the details will never be provided in the show.

    I haven’t read the Unsullied GOT forums because I know that it will make me crazy. “Stillshimpy” and her theories are equally overbearing in forums for other shows. Shae as a dragon-rider?

  21. Interior Bannisters
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Greatchris Umber:
    ‘Dany discusses future plans’
    ‘Dany meets with supplicants’
    ‘Daario entreats Dany to allow him to do what he does best’

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    In other words, the ‘Stalling at Meereen’ arc begins…


    I love Dany but sigh………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
    I don’t know whether to hope they stick to the books and keep it boring or change it around with the risk of another “WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS” *shudders*

  22. Tatters
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Interior Bannisters,

    We know there will be dragon action, should be awesome.

  23. Silver of Wyman
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: So they won’t be leaving Dragonstone until episode 6? I know they probably won’t appear in both of the next 2 episodes, but I had hoped they would be in Braavos by that point. It doesn’t leave much time to travel from Dragonstone to the Wall, with a pit stop in Braavos.

    They might have Dragonstone in episode 5 since we have yet to see that Melisandre bath scene from the promos and the “First of His Name” title fits Stannis pretty well.

  24. itisknown
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Anyone else find it weird that the dragons have not appeared since Episode 1?

  25. wizardeyes
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    mariamb,

    I literally had no idea that anybody gave a shit about Shae…

    I’m thinking that the show could give us some backstory in Dany/ Barristan scenes once Jorah is banished. Barristan is like a link to the past and could provide insight on the mad king, the Targaryen dynasty, Robert’s Rebellion etc. I think those scenes could be really cool.

  26. Valyrian Plastic
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    itisknown,

    They only appeared in episodes 1, 4, 7 & 10 of Season 3. Maybe they’ll do the same this year. They don’t come cheap after all and now they’re double the size and double the polygons.

    A similar episode arrangement will probably happen to Bran this year too, maybe even The Dreadfort as well. I’m glad that they’re not going to put Arya in 9 episodes this season, and they really should do the same with Tyrion (but they won’t). Nothing against the characters, but the other arcs need some attention and the very best episodes are generally the ones which only focus on a few stories.

  27. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    itisknown:
    Anyone else find it weird that the dragons have not appeared since Episode 1?

    As teenage rebels, they screamed “Fuck this” and went on a road trip to Valyria to visit their cool uncle. Little do they know that their homeland isn’t quite the same…

  28. Dothraki Master
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Jambo,
    Especially given this is what he said when asked about being spotted in Iceland (he was asked around the 9:15 mark in the video)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu-x9R8DhoI

  29. Lavignac
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    “Daario (Michiel Huisman) entreats Dany to allow him to do what he does best.”

    Bird whistling! COnfirmed from Season 2!

  30. Standozone
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Gods be good! I pray to the old gods and the new to see LS hanging Frey without the presence of Brienne. I don’t understand why everyone is eager to see Brienne facing LS this season. I prefer a scene in the Twins. Walder Frey after he heard reports that BwB are hanging some men, he commands an unnamed Frey (or Merret) to rescue another Frey. Let us see Walder Frey be a little unhappy in the show. These shortly introduced Frey will face LS later in the season finale.

  31. Turncloak
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    Apparently the Jaime/Cersei script was changed in the 11th hour. Here’s what the sept scene looked like originally

    http://imgur.com/gallery/9iCHB/

  32. jentario
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    mariamb,

    Remember last year? “Sam and Gilly meet an older gentleman.”
    Fan reaction: COLDHANDS!!!!111!1!!!?!111<3
    Reality: a White Walker
    Fan disappointment level: 9001

  33. jentario
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Grimnir,

    Linkage not working on my PC

  34. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak:
    Apparently the Jaime/Cersei script was changed in the 11th hour. Here’s what the sept scene looked like originally
    http://imgur.com/gallery/9iCHB/

    All right, funny boy. Come get one in the yarbles!
    That was perfect. Lol. Thx.

  35. JP Dayne
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    guess episode 6 will have tyrion demanding trial by combat in the throne room, then

  36. jentario
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Standozone,

    We actually know that Walder filmed a scene this season, whether or not they will show it. That said, I’m willing to bet that Brienne will witness the hanging of the Frey (as in the ASOS Epilogue) with her trial and hanging falling into the season 5 premiere. The reason is that Brienne begins her journey in episode 4. That leaves her 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10 to do quite a lot. Of course she won’t appear in all of them, but it’s enough to understand that there’d have to be a serious development. There’d be no point in sending her out THAT early if it amounts to nothing. I do think we’ll get SOME Brienne in the Riverlands scenes in season 5, though not a lot, when she leaves to get Jamie to the BWB.

  37. Seanathn
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    ‘Stannis (Stephen Dillane) and Davos (Liam Cunningham) set sail with a new strategy.’

    So they won’t be leaving Dragonstone until episode 6? I know they probably won’t appear in both of the next 2 episodes, but I had hoped they would be in Braavos by that point. It doesn’t leave much time to travel from Dragonstone to the Wall, with a pit stop in Braavos.

    Unless that is them leaving Braavos and the new plan is the wall with what they have got.

  38. queenofthorns
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    mariamb,

    Tyrion Pimpslap: I get more frustrated when they spend post after post going over their love for Shae and how important she could be.

    I sometimes feel like people have zero ability to put themselves in other’s shoes.

    They do not know that Shae is unimportant. Because they haven’t read the *****ing books. And they don’t want to. And you have. Congratulations!!!

    Why is this “frustrating” to you? I’m more frustrated by you people’s inability to have any empathetic ability whatsoever. I find it delighting when people have different life experiences than I do and hence different experiences. Try getting out more.

    For the record I don’t care about half the storylines in ASOIAF either, and I care much more about the characters who are morally decent than the others. Tell me “I haven’t been paying attention” if you want I dont’ give a crap.

  39. redviper
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    intothevoid,

    LOVE IT!! That’s what all the whiners deserve!!

  40. chamush
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Hey, you get to redeem yourself and come back from throwing a kid off the window just by helping the person risking her life protecting you!

    But if you get too horney and have sex with your sister lover in a wrong place against her request, then America will never forgive you!!!

    Pure logic and sanity!

  41. Seanathn
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    chamush,

    chamush:
    Hey, you get to redeem yourself andcome back from throwing a kid off the window just by helping the person risking her life protecting you!

    But if you get too horney and have sex with your sister lover in a wrong place against her request, then America will never forgive you!!!

    Pure logic and sanity!

    If there was an up vote option here I would be massing the button.

  42. Pepi
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Wow, they mentioned Stannis in a synopsis. :D

  43. redviper
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    chamush,

    AGREED!!

  44. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    It’s funny how people wanted the whole rape discussion to go away and yet they are continuing to bring it up themselves. I moved on, like everyone asked, maybe you guys should follow suit.

  45. Turncloak
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: All right, funny boy. Come get one in the yarbles!
    That was perfect. Lol. Thx.

    This should be on GoT laughs for sure :-)

  46. redviper
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    chamush,

    This provided the internet ranters something to focus on for a couple of days … things have quieted down a bit as the angry mob has moved on to the other morally outrageous events of the week such as Justin Bieber’s visit to a Japanese shrine and Avril Lavigne’s new video …

  47. Turncloak
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I just posted that script article for the lulz

  48. Tyrell19
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    jentario:
    Standozone,

    We actually know that Walder filmed a scene this season, whether or not they will show it. That said, I’m willing to bet that Brienne will witness the hanging of the Frey (as in the ASOS Epilogue) with her trial and hanging falling into the season 5 premiere. The reason is that Brienne begins her journey in episode 4. That leaves her 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10 to do quite a lot. Of course she won’t appear in all of them, but it’s enough to understand that there’d have to be a serious development. There’d be no point in sending her out THAT early if it amounts to nothing. I do think we’ll get SOME Brienne in the Riverlands scenes in season 5, though not a lot, when she leaves to get Jamie to the BWB.

    Do we know for definite David Bradley has filmed a scene?

  49. Heather
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) faces down his father in the throne room.Isn’t the bathroom also known as the throne room?

  50. Mr Fixit
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Heather:
    Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) faces down his father in the throne room.Isn’t the bathroom also known as the throne room?

    It certainly is in my family!

  51. Valaquen
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Tyrell19: Do we know for definite David Bradley has filmed a scene?

    All I know is that last year when promoting season 3 he said he’d be back for season 4, but I can’t recall anything since.

  52. Greenjones
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Heather,

    Perhaps but they mean the trial.

  53. lol
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    Consent is so funny!

  54. Hard Truths
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    I hate the week off so much! WTF HBO?

  55. Leo
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    queenofthorns:
    mariamb,

    I sometimes feel like people have zero ability to put themselves in other’s shoes.

    They do not know that Shae is unimportant.Because they haven’t read the *****ing books.And they don’t want to.And you have.Congratulations!!!

    Why is this “frustrating” to you?I’m more frustrated by you people’s inability to have any empathetic ability whatsoever.I find it delighting when people have different life experiences than I do and hence different experiences.Try getting out more.

    For the record I don’t care about half the storylines in ASOIAF either, and I care much more about the characters who are morally decent than the others.Tell me “I haven’t been paying attention” if you want I dont’ give a crap.

    I agree with this. Also Tv!Shae was decent in her Season 2 dynamic with Sansa.

  56. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Hard Truths,

    Memorial Day Holiday in the US. It’s the unofficial start of Summer. It’s a 3 day weekend for most people. So instead of being home watching TV, a lot of people will be away on a camping trip or at a BBQ with friends and family. ‘Blackwater’ aired on Memorial Day weekend and it received by far the lowest viewership of any season 2 episode.

  57. Stark Raving Mad
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    queenofthorns,

    Well said. The Unsullied are the same as any of us were when we first read the books. We all had theories (still do for that matter). Some panned out, some didn’t. We all have favorites and like talking about them more and hope they’ll play pivotal roles in the story.

    We hardly know anything about Robert’s Rebellion. Imagine how more frustrating it must be for the unsullied. I can’t remember, but was Oberyn’s revelation about Rhaegar leaving Elia for another woman mentioned elsewhere in the show? Did we know Lyanna had been kidnapped/eloped with the prince? I can’t remember if my book knowledge interfered with show knowledge. I was surprised at the excitement his revelation revealed (unless people took it to mean proof that it was consensual.)

  58. mariamb
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    queenofthorns,

    Seriously? What did I say that warranted your rant? We can agree to disagree without being rude.

  59. Seriano
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Interior Bannisters,

    Just wanted to say that your username made me laugh. Lena and Peter’s commentary on “Blackwater” was hilarious.

  60. Dark Heart
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    I wouldn’t take the idea of Stannis setting sail literally. He’s not in as many episodes this season, so chances are it will be the actual arrival rather than departure.

  61. Josla
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    chamush:
    Hey, you get to redeem yourself andcome back from throwing a kid off the window just by helping the person risking her life protecting you!

    But if you get too horney and have sex with your sister lover in a wrong place against her request, then America will never forgive you!!!

    Pure logic and sanity!

    Lol so true. In my eyes he’ll never be redeemed from crippling Bran, trying to Kill Lord Stark while killing his men and worst of all, killing his own cousing on cold blood. He’s always been kind of a douche bag too

  62. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    queenofthorns,

    Wow. I think your reaction to my post is a bit strong. I didn’t make a comment saying anything other than how silly it seemed that a couple of them thought Shae would actually wind up as a dragon rider. Nothing in the show would remotely lead one to believe that.

    As for my comment about them only caring about the good guys, I stand by it. If I only cared about half of the storylines or fewer, I don’t think I’d watch. Even so, these were just innocent comments discussing a message board that I will never post on. It’s still fun to read their “spitballs”, or else I would stop reading them.

  63. Sister 3
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    chamush,

    So, it wasn’t rape, it was having sex against her request???? So, I have to assume you don’t think rape is real.

  64. Sister 3
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    I’m not surprise so many GOT fans think rape is super funny. I hope you

  65. Daniellica
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: I think in the case of Brandon and Rickard being killed by Aerys, and the resulting order for Jon Arryn to execute Ned and Robert, the show would have been wise to reveal those details.

    Jamie mentions the murder of Brandon and Rickard to Ned in the first season, when Ned first arrives in KL and they have that lil confrontation in the throne room. Cat also mentions it before Ned leaves for KL, though not in such detail. That’s off the top of my head. I didn’t even know/remember that Jon Arryn was given an order to execute Ned and Robert. Robert also refers to the napping of Lyanna in the first episode of the show (also later on in the season, I think speaking with Cercei?).

    Why is it important at this point in the show for Unsullied to know exactly how Viserys and Dany were whisked away? There is so much information in this show already, how does it contribute to understanding those characters? We know they escaped, that they’ve been on the run all their lives, that Dany was just a baby when she left Westeros. How do the extra details help to clarify the situation?

    Part of the reason reading the books is so fulfilling is all the extra context we receive. 90% of this will never see an adaptation. One of the pains of writing is divorcing yourself from the things that you love vs. the things that you need, and nowhere is this precept more vital than in the adaptation of a beast like ASOIAF. I can’t imagine how many times D&D have had to say, “Yes, I love this part; yes, it’s interesting, but will it help or hinder the viewing experience?”

    Sorry if you didn’t mention everything I addressed above, Ser Pimpslap. I just can’t help myself.

  66. Sweet_Sister
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    I really really want “the throne room” from Episode 6 to be clever code for Tywin’s privy, but I don’t think it makes sense with the timing :(. Maybe the “unlikely ally” mentioned in Episode 7 is Varys not Oberyn? But that’s not very unlikely, is it? Sigh, just disproved my own dumb theory.

    Sister 3,

    I think some just honestly don’t know what rape is. Why else would you waste all those words typing “have sex with… against her request” when there’s a much more efficient option?

  67. WildSeed
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: “If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention.”

    Word !

  68. chamush
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    Sister 3,

    No, real rape is real! calling this scene rape is diminishing and undermining the awfulness of actual rape, dont get me wrong im no fan of what he did either but to call it rape is a bit ridiculous , real rape is what happened in India where they raped the girl on the bus and all the other terrible cases around the world..

  69. WildSeed
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I never go to those subject posts. I made the mistake of reading during it’s initial offering, and found myself ( stupidly ) responding to every other comment. I say let them have their say. Those with foreknowledge may easily spoil the energy. I think I told several to go read the book, somewhere embedded in my comment.
    Really dumb thing to say, even if I meant it.

  70. Greenjones
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    Sweet_Sister,

    Except that Alex Graves said that episode ten contains a confrontation between Tyrion and Tywin. Meaning the final confrontation. The summary refers to the trial which we’ve long known to be in episode six.

  71. WildSeed
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 11:36 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Hard Truths,

    Memorial Day Holiday in the US. It’s theunofficial start of Summer. It’s a 3 day weekend for most people. So instead of being home watching TV, a lot of people will be away on a camping trip or at a BBQ with friends and family. ‘Blackwater’ aired on Memorial Day weekend and it received by far the lowest viewership of any season 2 episode.

    Each year I have to remind myself. I did well on my citizenship, but I keep confusing the Armistice Day.
    No one here celebrates Bastille, lol. Good thing my mother was born on that day.

    No Game of Thrones, damn ! I hope ” Silicon Valley ” is still broadcast.

  72. chamush
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 11:38 pm | Permalink

    Sweet_Sister,

    Dont be silly! A second earlier she was kissing and touching him and then she just said its not right, not here! He is an ass hole for doing that and continuing but if you call that rape then what do u call what happens in our prisons?? How many rape victims keep kissing the rapist during the act?? C’moooon now…

    my whole point was that he is a bad guy! But for more serious crimes such as trying to murder a kid!!

  73. WildSeed
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    wizardeyes,

    You were on a roll until you mentioned Stannis. Davos’ letter is the clue here.

  74. Sweet_Sister
    Posted April 24, 2014 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    chamush,

    Okay. I can’t tell if you’re trolling me but in case you’re not, I’ll explain what I mean. I’m going to get crucified for “still talking about it” or something, but:

    I definitely understand why you feel that way. Violent rape is obvious and terrible, and it’s what we’re usually shown as an example. Most rape is not physically violent. In fact the the one and only definition of rape is having sex with someone against their will. It doesn’t have to be physically forced, violent, or abusive. Someone can say yes and then change their mind. This means a spouse can rape their spouse, or a person with authority can compel someone to have sex with them without ever using excessive force. All that needs to happen is that one of the parties doesn’t want the sexual contact to take place. It’s why it’s considered rape to have sex with someone who is very drunk, or who is a child: these people are unable (legally) to give their consent. There are a lot of murky areas (blurred lines, if you will), but as a general rule people should make sure the person who they are having sex with definitely wants to have sex with them. Certainly, no one should have sex with anyone who is saying no or fighting, unless that’s explicitly agreed on beforehand.

    She said no. He continued. That’s all it takes for it to be rape.

    (Also not arguing that Jaime is supposed to be a good guy, fyi.)

  75. Sweet_Sister
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    Also there is a scene from the promo of Dany in the throne room, and also of the dragons facing a person in the fields. Maybe they’ll bring in Dany’s first chapter from ADWD/preview chapter from AFFC and show Dany being presented the bones of a child?

  76. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 1:33 am | Permalink

    Daniellica,

    It was stated that Rickard and Brandon were killed by Aerys in the throne room, but never why. I was simply saying it would have been helpful to the unsullied viewer if the show would have specified how the rebellion truly started. There is a debate ongoing in the unsullied forum on ‘previously.tv’ about this very subject. Some believe the war was strictly about rescuing Lyanna. Others point out that it would be unlikely for half a kingdom to go to war to rescue a woman. But kill a Lord and the heir of a major house and demand the heads of another heir and the Lord of another great house, well, that is how a war is started.

  77. wizardeyes
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 3:38 am | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    What do you mean??

  78. Red Hound
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 4:04 am | Permalink

    Sweet_Sister,

    I must thank you for keeping the language neutral when it comes to gender in your text. In the same show,we have witnessed women on man rape in this same show, including posterior sexual violence (castration), but it was certainly not such a big outrage.

  79. Arya's Nose
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 6:36 am | Permalink
  80. Shock Me
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    A week without Thrones is like a year without a Christmas.

  81. jentario
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    RAPE RAPE RAPE we are back to buisness. And I thought it died away :)

  82. jentario
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 7:52 am | Permalink

    Shock Me,

    You get it. The worst part is that a week without Thrones is a two-week wait. Two. Weeks. Waiting between episodes is hard enough, this will be horrible. But at least we’re getting Episode 8 right after :) The last three episodes… will be quite a ride

  83. Zack
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    jentario,

    Oh, god. :(

    I always forget. But every year they’ve skipped Memorial Day and that Sunday without Thrones is such a downer, lol

    I think this year I’ll refrain from watching episodes multiple times, and then on that Sunday with no new Thrones, just marathon all the S4 episodes all day.

  84. Zack
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    Red Hound:
    Sweet_Sister,

    I must thank you for keeping the language neutral when it comes to gender in your text. In the same show,we have witnessed women on man rape in this same show, including posterior sexual violence (castration), but it was certainly not such a big outrage.

    Speaking personally, it wouldn’t make sense to be outraged that a man being imprisoned, flayed, beaten, deprived of water, and so on…has been raped/castrated too. In fact, a portrayal of such clear, unambiguous rape as a Bad Thing probably helped a lot of viewers see how a woman can in fact rape a man. Some neanderthals reason “He had a boner, that means it wasn’t rape” but that’s an automatic bodily response to stimulation. It’s not uncommon for women to orgasm while being raped and it can give them such a guilty or distressed mindset, understandably. But again, it’s an automatic bodily response that they cannot control. It doesn’t make the rape any less of a rape.

    So back to Theon…I thought the scene was a powerful way to indicate how men can be victims too.

    The outrage over Jaime raping Cersei is because certain producers and certain fans tried to pass off a rape as not a rape. If they would’ve just acknowledged Jaime’s action for what it was I’d have been unhappy with the scene as it happened ANYWAY because I prefer the more ambiguous take in the book, but I probably would have written one sentence and moved on.

  85. loki
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    but…we had that information known for over a month… why post this know?

  86. jentario
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    loki,

    Because now it’s official

  87. Mrs. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    So they won’t be leaving Dragonstone until episode 6? I

    I bet that’s misleading. I’m hoping we’ll see them arriving at Braavos in Episode 6.

  88. Chris
    Posted April 25, 2014 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Guess it makes sense for some of Brienne’s storyline from Feast for Crows to be brought up now. Most of it is so incredibly pointless, chapter after chapter of endless meandering only to turn around again. Yes, we learn Sam’s dad sucks but we already knew that. I was thinking the entire detour to Crackclaw Point would be dropped but something along that line (perhaps a detour to the Eryie instead) would give us some Brienne action to enjoy.


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