Season 4, Episode 4 – Oathkeeper – Open Chat
By WiC Staff on in Recap.

Tonight is full with the promise of a new episode of Game of Thrones. Discuss the fourth episode of Season 4 with fellow fans and look forward to our recap later tonight. Episode details are after the break.

Writer: Bryan Cogman
Director: Michelle MacLaren
Runtime: 56 minutes
Synopsis: Dany balances justice and mercy. Jaime tasks Brienne (Gwendoline Christie) with his honor. Jon secures volunteers while Bran, Jojen (Thomas Brodie-Sangster), Meera (Ellie Kendrick) and Hodor (Kristian Nairn) stumble on shelter.
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164 Comments

  1. Jillybean
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    Hodor

  2. Tom
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    9 seasons

  3. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    77 seasons and 7 movies.

  4. Sword of the Morning
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Is Barristan Selmy too fat?

  5. Jospeh
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Sword of the Morning,

    Clearly evidence he’s been combined with Strong Belwas

  6. Jillybean
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    And again, tornado watches. Why does GoT have to be in the spring?
    Really looking forward to Cogman’s episode. Really hope I get to watch all of it. Maybe from the closet.

  7. Yago
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Anyone with a good stream willing to link it?

  8. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    I wish people would stop picking on Barristan Selmy’s weight :(

    I have a concern that might be off topic because it’s about episode 9. The whole episode is taking place at the Wall. The preview, when it airs will likely make that obvious. When the credits for episode 9 roll, they will include Stephan Dillane, Carice Van Houten and Liam Cunningham. Won’t that spoil the surprise of Stannis coming to a last minute rescue? Some unsullied are casual enough viewers that they won’t know who plays who. Anyone who knows will be spoiled though. Won’t they? Just a thought.

  9. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Jillybean:
    And again, tornado watches. Why does GoT have to be in the spring?
    Really looking forward to Cogman’s episode. Really hope I get to watch all of it.Maybe from the closet.

    There was strong storm when Blackwater aired. It was awesome. It added so much to the atmosphere. It would’ve been less cool if the power went out though!

  10. Greenjones
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Just like Charles Dance got credited in Blackwater. But if main cast appears they have to credit them there. It will be really obvious too because Liam Cunningham’s name will come up probably right after Kit Harrington’s.

  11. cosca
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Well, the credits are also going to list quite a few actors who won’t be in the episode, so I think that will be enough of a misdirect.

  12. Family, Duty, Hodor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    Even now Ser Barristan could cut through the lot of you like carving a cake. A cake which he’s been eating, clearly. ;)

  13. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    Fatgate < rapegate. We're an extremely intelligent fandom with richly multifaceted arguments, I believe.

  14. Patty
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    I am such a geek, I really can’t wait for this next episode. Sad but its the highlite of my Sunday’s lol

  15. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    That was supposed to be “>” but I messed up. I once again salute our intelligence.

  16. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Patty:
    I am such a geek, I really can’t wait for this next episode. Sad but its the highlite of my Sunday’s lol

    Sundays are historically boring days for me statistically, so I have no shame admitting the same!

  17. Patty
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor,

    Glad to know I’m not alone here lol .. Seriously, these next few episodes are going to be quite interesting how their played out.

  18. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor,

    Don’t forget namegate! Why.No.Names.Yet?? (and wildlings don’t name kids until they are 1year old!) Why?Why?Why?

  19. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard:
    Jeff O’Connor,

    Don’t forget namegate! Why.No.Names.Yet??

    Aw hell, that one I have to admit I’m quite involved with myself.

    You’ve named *past* dragons. We’ve got dragons in the *present* here too y’know!

  20. Our Blades Are Sharp
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    Family, Duty, Hodor:
    Even now Ser Barristan could cut through the lot of you like carving a cake. A cake which he’s been eating, clearly. ;)

    Bravo good ser/lady LOL

  21. House Hodor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    Really hope to see some blood spilling at Meereen.

  22. House Mormont
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    56 minutes? Bryan Cogman… oh wait I have to wait till tomorrow… fucking Britain

    on the other hand, I don’t think it’ll be a Surprise when Stannis goes to the wall… since they announced they were going to go in 3×10… and it’s in all the trailers

  23. King Tyrion
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    House Mormont,

    Yea but I think the unsullied figure that was a fake-out since Stanis has not even hinted and making a move towards the wall this season. I think they butchered that scene in 310 it was stupid and apparently lead nowhere.

  24. outdoorcats
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    Praying we get a follow up on the Jaime/Cersei scene where they talk about what happened. What would be the worst is if it’s just not brought up and we’re left with nothing but endless internet debates about exactly what happened. Although I’ll miss the books’ Jaime redemption arc I can still see what they’re doing work or pay off by the end of the season…just don’t put it under the table and hope we forget about it.

    Despite my anxiety on that front, I’m still excited for tonight’s episode. BRIENNE OF TARTH! Can we hope for a Brienne and Pod first encounter tonight? Can’t wait.

  25. Ser Duncanegg
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    Has anyone watched the preview for the fourth episode? Towards the end it shows Bran, Hodor, and the Reeds being spooked by something, then it quickly shows a white walker. Coldhands???

  26. Kyrion
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Ser Duncanegg,
    Thats what Im hoping

  27. somuchforoldtown
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Oh God, please give me the patience to suffer through more crappy scenes of Bran the Arborist. Also, a dream sequence of the Mountain chopping him down would be greatly appreciated.

  28. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    outdoorcats:
    Praying we get a follow up on the Jaime/Cersei scene where they talk about what happened. What would be the worst is if it’s just not brought up and we’re left with nothing but endless internet debates about exactly what happened.

    Maybe they’ll seek counselling with Qyburn.

  29. JasonLobo
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Coldhands pls… it’s our last hope

  30. loki
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    All hail Bryan Cogman!

  31. Rainwood
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    I don’t really know why, but I just have a suspicion the Jorah-Dany kiss is gonna be in this ep. Starting to think they’ve forgotten about it…

  32. Turncloak
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    1 hour and 8 minutes left. Thank God for Dark Souls 2. Makes it easier to pass the time

  33. The Eighth God
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Something Hound-related to give you a chuckle and kill some time (well, around 30 seconds):

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjl83kwmUI0

  34. Venger
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Patty,

    You are not alone. lol

  35. Harry Lime
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    JasonLobo:
    Coldhands pls… it’s our last hope

    As sad as it is, his purpose (showing Bran the way to go) has already been fulfilled by the tree scene.

  36. Patty
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    The Eighth God,
    That was funny :)

  37. Ser Davos Seaworth
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    Guys I’m 100% sure that the people who hadn’t picked up on the hints of Stannis going to the wall, will be those casual enough not to know either who Liam Cunningham and co are or that the names at the beginning correspond to who appears in the episode.

  38. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    Harry Lime: As sad as it is, his purpose (showing Bran the way to go) has already been fulfilled by the tree scene.

    But, but, but (as I try to find a reason…) Meera & Summer are their only decent protection and that particular forest is very dark and full of terrors!

  39. Patty
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Venger,

    As I said, good to know. Now I go watch last weeks episode and it will be over just in time for tonights episode :)

  40. Venger
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    The Eighth God,

    Funny stuff

  41. Arthur
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    I hope we get to see The Mountain getting beckoned to KL by message from Tywin this episode!

    I can’t wait to see how awesome Thor Bearson (think his name translates to something of that affect) as our massive Mountain!

    P.S. Please have him go to some Comic-Con type event so we can hear from him agin if possible! Would love to see that 6’9″ monstrous fram standing around normal sized people for some photos…

  42. Darkstar
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    The Eighth God,

    Oh, we had KFC tonight. It even came with lemoncakes. but I forgot to order my GOT chicken!

  43. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak:
    1 hour and 8 minutes left. Thank God for Dark Souls 2. Makes it easier to pass the time

    It’s been a while since I’ve played any games for their gameplay elements only; I really need a relatively captivating story for me to stay hooked these days. Gaming far gameplay’s sake just doesn’t click with me anymore except for casual communal experiences like Smash and Civ. And then randomly Zelda too. I dunno how it happened, I mean, I’m only 25, but it happened.

    That said, Dark Souls is pretty nicely atmospheric from what I’ve seen my friends play of it. Rich in rather unique tones. Cool stuff. Enjoy!

  44. wr3_1440
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if that kid that the Magnar of Thenn spared in episode 3 is going to take the black tonight. He could be the next good original show character. He’d certainly have a good reason for betraying Jon later on after Jon makes peace with the Thenns.

  45. WompWomp
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    wr3_1440,

    JON: What’s your name, boy?

    CHILD: Brutus.

    Arthur,

    I think he’s way too busy with his strongman career to make the stops, but I’d love to hear from him as well.

    The Eighth God,

    That was great! There’s always time for a good GoT funny.

  46. Venger
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    “Game On” in 5min. ;)

  47. Turncloak
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor,

    Yea Dark Souls story is told through item descriptions and through subtext(Havel fights with on occult club which Is a weapon to fight against the gods. Does that mean he is a rebel? Why is he locked in a tower? Etc). It’s a very subtle way to bring of lore building. It leads the player to come up with their own conclusions which is very different from convention plots imo

  48. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    I don’t wanna mourn the departed, I wanna watch Thrones…

  49. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak:
    Jeff O’Connor,

    Yea Dark Souls story is told through item descriptions and through subtext(Havel fights with on occult club which Is a weapon to fight against the gods. Does that mean he is a rebel? Why is he locked in a tower? Etc). It’s a very subtle way to bring of lore building. It leads the player to come up with their own conclusions which is very different from convention plots imo

    Heh, yeah, I respect the idea and it’s been pretty fun watching it at least. :)

  50. WBB
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    Hit it!

  51. WBB
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Common with Melisandre.

  52. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer brothers! Classic!
    Locke at the Wall! Wow.

  53. After The Feast
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor,

    Two words: Bioshock Infinite

    It’s just a recommendation.

  54. WompWomp
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    After The Feast,

    Assuming you’ve beaten the game, you must watch this if you haven’t seen it already:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYZJER4bZLk&index=2&list=FL8PqDD8NPvEwVJmD2TohrqQ

  55. gewa76
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    SER POUNCE!!! Cogs, you da man!

  56. After The Feast
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    WompWomp,

    Wow, that was excellently edited! Makes me want to play the game again.

  57. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Jon knows about Bran!!!!! Holy shit!
    Brienne! I wanna be her squire too.
    Locke is a damn good addition to this tale!

  58. After The Feast
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    WompWomp,

    And thanks for that link.

  59. loco73
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Holly shit!!!!! That was ducking awesome! Welcome twist to the story!!!!

  60. Jéssica De Freitas Maciel
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    OMFG!!!!!!! What do I do with my life now???? That was so freaking amazing, i think the internet is gonna explode!

  61. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    Holy shit.

  62. DerpDerp
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Some more deviations, but man that was good.

  63. Studbeasttank
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    WHAT

  64. Turncloak
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Unsettling. Sith music

  65. Eugene Toussaint
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    The show has official gone into book spoiler territory. I can’t believe it.

  66. luizfadelk
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Holy. Fucking. Shit.

  67. loco73
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    I think I just pissed my pants with excitement!!!!!!! That soo unexpected…all of it and soo good! Another outstanding episode! As I said again, it’s like this season is better if that is even possible!

  68. Delta1212
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Holy shit, holy shit, holy shit!

    Did that just happen?!

  69. Our Blades Are Sharp
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Holy shit!!!!!

  70. Eugene Toussaint
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    DerpDerp,

    I do not think that is a deviation, its hinted at in the books.

  71. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Well that was an unexpected ending. WTF?

    We are all UnSullied! Ahhhhhhhhhh!

    What’s with the direwolf caging and trapping? Weird. I do not like!

  72. Turncloak
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Arya stabs the hound. Da phuc???

  73. Yago
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Ser Pounce was the best part of the episode. But where’s Lady Whiskers?

  74. Shane snow
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    I think I may cry

  75. house snow
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    Wtf just happened

  76. pntrlqst
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    So even when Bryan Cogman deviates from the source he still writes a fantastic f****** episode.

  77. Scott Glennon
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    Damn! Skull Mountain! Holy Shit!

    The North Remembers!

  78. Turncloak
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    That episode 5 preview was just as bat shit cray as this one

  79. loco73
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    But it makes sense, while in the novels the White Walkers are more of a background presence, that would not work on the show…..Daaaamn was that White Walker central?!?!?!

  80. tysnow
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Delta1212,

    Yes holy shit that did just happen, OMFG! The Kingdom of Always Winter.
    Was that a female WW or just WW Aristocracy?

  81. Patty
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Okay, Wow and WTF??? More specifically the whole turning a babies eyes blue thing was really creepy lol
    Plus all other kinds of things are going to make the next few weeks amazing to watch.

  82. HouseMartellBitches
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Ser Pounce!!!!

    Also, that definitely wasn’t Coldhands!?

    Ben Kingsley for Doran Martell or I riot.

  83. Tidypachiderm
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    So is this The first explicit thing in the show that must be a reveal from later on in the books then we’ve currently reached? I know a lot of people speculated that might happen as we approach the end of Martin’s stuff and this new White Walker origin material seems waaay to specific and un-deviate-from-able to be a purely original invention of the show, even if it may not be exactly what Martin eventually writes . Damn exciting stuff anyway.

  84. WompWomp
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    After The Feast,

    Wasn’t it? I stumbled upon it very recently. I can’t stop watching it.

    No need to thank me. ‘Tis my duty. I’m a laughably obsessed BioShock fan.

    …Man, how was THAT for a fourth episode?

  85. Eddard Stark II
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    OH MY GOD WTF!!! That was amazing.

  86. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Where to even begin?

    The most important thing in this episode? SER POUNCE!!!! Thank you Bryan!

    I just have so many questions about the WW scene. Is it from what GRRM has told them or is made up for the show? Is the baby now a WW? Are all White Walkers formerly human? I’m so intrigued!

  87. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    I was literally reading White Walker theories this afternoon. WTF timing. WTF WTF.

  88. Shan
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    LMAO WHAT WAS THAT…. Never in my life did I think a game of thrones episode could be that awful. That wasn’t even game of thrones that was just disturbing horribleness

  89. Greenjones
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Well holy shit. That confirms a number of fan theories. A lovely, succinct, focused fucking episode. B. Cogz be praised!

  90. Dash
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Haters gona hate this really big XD #999seasons999prequels999spinoffand999movies!

  91. LordStarkington
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Other than Ghost randomly being there (why wouldn’t they kill him?), really liked the episode. Last scene creeped me out though; not sure I want to think about Other babies.

  92. Don't care
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    All we need know is a “I don’t like beets” from Tommen and I can die happy.

  93. Ashara D
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Gotta add my holy shit to everyone else’s:

    Holy shit!

    Great episode! BCog strikes again!

  94. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Shan:
    LMAO WHAT WAS THAT…. Never in my life did I think a game of thrones episode could be that awful. That wasn’t even game of thrones that was just disturbing horribleness

    O_o

  95. Michel
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

  96. dreamlife
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Many deviations.

    Wow, Bran caught by the Night’s Watch @ Craster’s Keep. Jon headed to Craster’s Keep (with full knowledge of Bran!! and with Locke!!) Margaery’s late night visit to Tommen (Ser Pounce!!) Biggest reveal of all: the white walkers turning the baby!!

    Any theories as to why Bryan Cogman was giving interviews saying that this was a difficult episode to write? I didn’t see anything that was particularly upsetting, other than maybe Dany crucifying the masters…

  97. Turncloak
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    LordStarkington:
    Other than Ghost randomly being there (why wouldn’t they kill him?), really liked the episode. Last scene creeped me out though; not sure I want to think about Other babies.

    No bows and arrows? Fear of death by direwolf counter attack?

  98. BranSnow
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Ser Pounce!!! And holy White Walker at the end!!!

  99. Venger
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    It’s like watching a movie every Sunday. The quality keeps getting better… and the acting keeps stepping up.
    They have my full attention.
    Winter is Coming.

  100. debbie
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    Craster’s keep continues to be a horror show. I hope Ghost and Summer tear the shit out of those traitors!

  101. pntrlqst
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    dreamlife,

    Probably because it was a lot of original material that he wasn’t simply adapting. He did a great job. Enjoyed all of it.

  102. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    My initial reaction: loved it!

    This just in: AngryGoTFan just dropped dead from an aneurysm.

  103. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    ash:
    Ok, I need to go back to the book and so some rereading, coz I don’t remember

    That’d be because it didn’t happen.

    Many congrats to all those who predicted this deviation. I saw it maybe happening… you guys nailed it though. :P

  104. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    So that is what an Other looks like….Hmmmm. A white Darth Maul? WTF?

  105. B
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Dis a whole notha show now!

  106. house snow
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Honestly after Ser pounce appeared nothing else even mattered the episode was getting a ten.

  107. loco73
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    So The Others have a hierarchy?!?!? Hmmmmmm…….I think my mind will explode! The Kingdom Of Always Winter….And Brienne with Oathkeeper!!!! And Locke at the Wall!!!! Uh hub and the mention of the Choosing!!!!!

  108. SHK12344
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    OK, it’s official. The show has passed the book officially. I’m sure there will be more of it, specially on Season 5.

  109. Delta1212
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Wait, did anything in that episode happen in the books?

  110. I am no knight
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    JordanJ,

    Exactly!! I read the books after season 1 and found this episode full of great quiet character moments, and surprises. It was exhilarating!

  111. Mirax
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    Delta1212,

    Dany crucified the masters…

  112. LordVega
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    JordanJ:
    Finally. Remember that feeling you had before you read the books and knew what was coming…… IIIIIIITTTTTTTS BAAAAAACKKKK. WE ARE ALLUNSULLIED! Wow loved the episode

    ^ This… F$&#=!$ this!

  113. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    house snow:
    Honestly after Ser pounce appeared nothing else even mattered the episode was gettinga ten.

    I was so sad at lack of cats last week. Yeah, yeah, “why would there be cats at the sept?” Who cares, there’s plenty else going on there, what’s a cat?

    But now, a cat. Happiness, I know thee.

    Starting to really get the Cogman love. Best script of the season at this point. Possibly the best episode too.

    Current gut-reaction rankings: 4 > 2 > 1 > 3.

  114. Stannis Stark
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    To the “OMG WTF!!!!!!!!!!! Its not like the books” people, quitcha bichin, that was insanely cool. Oh yeah…. HOLY SHIT!

  115. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Delta1212:
    Wait, did anything in that episode happen in the books?

    Of course. The, uhh.

    Uhh.

    Yes, well. There was the…

    …holy shit what the hell

  116. loco73
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    My initial reaction: loved it!

    This just in: AngryGoTFan just dropped dead from an aneurysm.

    LOL!!!! Hey Joshua Taylor What’s up!!!!!

  117. Mursk
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Hodor goes to save the baby they hear crying and gets there just as the WW shows up to collect.

    WW: “Damn, that’s a big baby.”

  118. ash
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    That’d be because it didn’t happen.

    Oh good, so my mind isn’t all that far gone. Some amazing deviations – this is gonna be good!

    The scene with Tommen and Margery was spot on perfect I loved the kiss on the forehead

    That being said, I could have done without the Mareen section. This was about the point in the book that I started yawning and skimming through all of Dany’s chapters.

  119. Stannis Stark
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    Mursk: Hodor goes to save the baby they hear crying and gets there just as the WW shows up to collect.
    WW: “Damn, that’s a big baby.”

    lol …. literally.

  120. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    Ok…so here goes.

    Really really good episode. This was naturally a bit of a table-setter, but I do like the confident way in which the showrunners are leaving out several stories per episode to make things much more concentrated. And once again, they start with fire, and end with ice.

    –Great Meereen stuff. Nice shading of Grey Worm, love to see Jacob Anderson get some more screentime and to make more of his character. Missandei as well. And then they did well to have them take the city largely through what was off-screen, and then having all those slavers nailed to spikes. Well played.

    –SER POUNCE OMFG I CANNOT.

    –People were wondering if the Cersei/Jaime thing would be addressed. I think it was. Obliquely, yes – but her “Lord Commander” line at the end of that scene was all that was needed to be said. She knows goddamned well what he did. And that works for me. It won’t satisfy everyone, and I get that.

    –I wish they’d left the Joffrey mystery more of a mystery for longer, but the way they played it out worked very well for me.

    –Jeebus, Burn Gorman’s an asshole. And you can’t hurt Hodor!!!! He’s Hodor!!! :( :( :(

    –OMFG WTF IS THAT KING WHITE WALKER DOING HOLY CRAP AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHGHGHGHHHHHHHHH.

    –”Thank you, brothers.”

    –A nice bit of work with Locke there. The more Noah Taylor the better.

    –If we’re not going to have Diana Rigg for a few episodes that’s unfortunate. I’d love to see her get back in the mix later on. But as always we’ll see.

    –”She’s not a killer. Not yet, anyway.” Ooooh.

    –WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT GODDAMNED THING!

  121. OurBladesAreSharp
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    So I guess thats The Great Other, which I guess ties the White Walkers into the whole R’hllor religion, with Melisandre referring to Azor Ahai’s enemy as the ‘Great Other’ and she also mentions the White Walkers as The Great Others’ “Cold Children”

  122. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    Hmm, I thought it was an admirable attempt at the real beginning of the Meereen arc. They did the best they could with it. I really dig the Grey Worm stuff. I was on the fence about the whole “we’re going to humanize him” thing but if this is what they meant then hot damn.

  123. Stannis Stark
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Damn, i screwed up that last comment apologize for that. Delete if necessary.

  124. SHK12344
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    ash: Oh good, so my mind isn’t all that far gone.Some amazing deviations – this is gonna be good!

    The scene with Tommen and Margery was spot on perfect I loved the kiss on the forehead

    That being said, I could have done without the Mareen section.This was about the point in the book that I started yawning and skimming through all of Dany’s chapters.

    Yeah, I felt the same. The show started really slow, but ended with homerun.

  125. lparetti
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    First off, to the people complaining about deviations, it’s an adoption get over it. Secondly, was that the Kingdom of Always Winter??!!!!

  126. Johnny SD
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    Wow. I predicted the bit with the White Walkers last year and was loudly derided. And first episode that actually unquestionably has spoilers from the future books. That episode was just all types of awesome. One of the best ever, except for Locke calling up Kirk for a teleporter maybe. And the episode was really really cinematic. 12 out of 10!!!

  127. Vanessa Rake
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    I thought tonight would be a filler episode after the past couple weeks and I was thankfully so wrong. Amazing!

    Loved the cat and that whole Margaery/Tommen scene.

    Loved Brienne and Oathkeeper. And Pod! “Ser….m’lady”

    Dany crucifying the masters! And finally seeing the scene from the trailers of the unsullied attacking the master. Only picky little thing is “Kill the masters” being written in the common tongue. But I guess it’s more visually appealing than subtitling it.

    White walkers!!!!!!

    Crasters keep!!

    I’m completely cool with deviations.

    Gah so good.

  128. OurBladesAreSharp
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    lparetti,

    There is no Kingdom of Always Winter mentioned in the books, just the Lands of Always Winter, which I guess you could say that was.

  129. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    loco73,

    Living it up as a commoner now thanks to the mobile version revealing my low birth. Josh Atreides is no more.

  130. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    loco73,

    Living it up as a commoner now thanks to the mobile version revealing my low birth. Josh Atreides is no more.

    I know what you mean…

  131. DerpDerp
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    Eugene Toussaint,

    Ahh, well that’s good then, I didn’t remember it. The episode was highly entertaining, even though I remember Meereen and the whole craster’s deal are different, but I love Locke and Karl as bad guys so it should be real good, just wondering if they’re just taking different means to the same end, or what. Kinda rambling. It was an intense episode imo.

  132. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    house snow:
    Honestly after Ser pounce appeared nothing else even mattered the episode was gettinga ten.

    THIS.

  133. King of the Ashes
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    overall, I’m just glad that Ghost is back. and i knew the Queen of thorns had to be the culprit

  134. Coldhands
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Patty,

    Wtf with the lich king at the end?

  135. Kyrion
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    It looked like the fist of the first men.

    Itd make sense, since they took the First back from the humans in Season 3.

  136. Ser Osis of Liver
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Loved the deviations, and I’m a die-hard bookreadin’ fool. They’re some nasty pieces of work up at Craster’s (well, it should just be “the keep” now, I suppose); it will be all the more delicious when the lot of them are taken out, but the one part that I’m wondering about, is the issue now with Locke knowing about Bran and being part of that sortie. I’m a little unsure how that can play out without Jon meeting Bran and company, or Locke following/taking them. I don’t see Locke being killed anytime soon and that storyline isn’t going away, obviously.

    Three cheers for Ser Pounce, the First Of His Name! Lady Whiskers must follow, as well as Beetgate™ and Stamping All The Things.

    “Ser. M’lady.” Oh, triPod, don’t ever change, lad! “Kingslayer Twins.” Great band name! Lovin’ the Jaime/Bronn bromance too.

    The ending. I just….I mean they must….it’s gotta be….#@^Y(^(@$%No Carrier…. That ending was a divide-by-zero error for me. 12/10. Bravo!

  137. Scott Glennon
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    I have been a book reader for years. I love the show, and all things Ice&Fire. But tonight, I felt something I haven’t felt in awhile. A genuine sense of surprise. You know what it made me think of? Beric Dondarion. How does he “come back to life”? How does it work for the white walkers? I am thinking somehow these things are connected, but I can’t put my finger on it. Tonight though, I think we got a glimpse. I am really guessing here, because I am flabbergasted. Damnit Bryan, ya got me! :-)

    The North Remembers!

  138. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 11:29 pm | Permalink

    I gotta just come back with a more collected thought or two and say that the pacing we’re seeing now on a weekly basis is really terrific. There’s been a lot of great stuff on this show as a TV show for four seasons now – but in the early days it just wasn’t as consistent as this. Is it the source material? In part – but very little of this episode comes from what we know of in the books or that was described – the taking of Meereen, and not a hell of a lot else. And again, this week we get no Dragonstone, no Arya/Hound, no Theon/Ramsey, no Wildlings. It seems like they’re going to do this thing where they alternate groups on a weekly basis when they can, and it really works nicely. I wish they’d done that more with Theon last year (even though you can see them maturing in that Second Sons and Rains of Castamere are both strongly focused as episodes in terms of limiting characters).

    It’s good they’re getting better at this – Season 5 will present a lot of challenges on this front.

    Also nice parallels between the opening and the closing. Grey Worm opens it up saying “There was always Unsullied. Before Unsullied there was nothing.” That baby who has been taken into the Land of Always Winter is now always a White Walker. Before a White Walker, he will know nothing.

  139. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 11:36 pm | Permalink

    Kyrion:
    It looked like the fist of the first men.

    Itd make sense, since they took the First back from the humans in Season 3.

    No, it was an open area, that spot with the ice and that Stonehenge looking thing. Fist of the First Men was way up high on a mount, and was an uneven piece of land.

    Scott Glennon: But tonight, I felt something I haven’t felt in awhile. A genuine sense of surprise.

    Agreed. And I know we all want the next book. Really, we do. But thus far the only surprises the show has held for us have been the moments when there were more or less modest deviations or “How are they going to adapt this?” type things like House of Undying (which worked well). But this was a true OMFG moment that comes from truly not knowing what was next. Is there a hierarchy? One supposes there must have been, or is. How many are there?

  140. fire and blood
    Posted April 27, 2014 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

    Best.Episode.Yet!!!!!

  141. sig79
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    I kind of forgot about Ghost before they showed this episode. I can’t wait to see the reunion between Ghost and Jon if it ever happens. This episode was awesome. Did not expect any of the Others stuff, I wonder where they got the inspiration to add all that in? Really awesome stuff. When Sam and Jon were talking I literally said “What the fuck” out loud when Sam mentioned Bran to Jon, in the books Sam never tells Jon he met Bran at the wall, wasn’t sure where they were going with it but I can’t wait to see what happens. Jon going beyond the wall again should be interesting…. So many things to keep mentioning, this was such a great episode.

  142. Jaqen is Q
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    House Harkonnen sends their regards.

  143. ReekReek
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    dreamlife,

    Maybe it was just fitting all that crazy, unrealistic shit into an episode and having it work. Everything from tying the Bolton/Wall/Bran storylines into a single seamless piece to the HOLY CRACKERS ending was probably brain-wracking to put together. Dear Gods I loved this episode.

  144. SER POUNCE!!!
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 12:57 am | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Yes I believe the white walkers were all alive at one point. I think they’re kind of like zombies. I don’t understand why they would want to turn the baby though. If they’re dead they can’t grow. Curious ending. I don’t read the books.

  145. ReekReek
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    Seven bloody hells, can we all just fastforward to next week?

  146. fire and blood
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 1:02 am | Permalink

    SER POUNCE!!!,

    Think you’re confusing the wights who are the risen dead that the white walkers control…and the white walkers themselves.Think of the wights as there thralls and the white walkers as frost demons

  147. Frozen Slagwurm (the Partially Unsullied)
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 1:04 am | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Ok. This episode made my week. A question I would like to pose is why were the white walkers dormant for so long? Also the green men that were with the first men. Were they wiped out or did they some how turn themselves into white walkers? The reason they destroy, and hate humans so much would make sense if it was retribution for their lost race. Anyways can’t wait for Bran to mind rape the deserters and poor Hodor :(. If someone would pls post my Three questions during the live recap I would appreciate it. Once again 1. Why the sudden return of white walkers?2. Why did they disappear?3. What happened to the green men that retreated north? Thx!

  148. WompWomp
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    Frozen Slagwurm (the Partially Unsullied),

    The First Men were humans who colonized Westeros, the first of their ilk to do so.

    The “green men” are the Children of the Forest, a native race of small sapients who worshiped weirwood trees and carved faces into them. They practiced shamanistic magics. They were wiped out by humans.

    Actually, you know what, just watch this, and the others like it. They explain everything better than I can.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuf0-ZHsOs8

  149. Onion Knight
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 1:42 am | Permalink

    Frozen Slagwurm (the Partially Unsullied),

    1. We don’t know yet. Something to do with the long winter that is upcoming.

    2. They were defeated by the Last Hero / Azor Ahai and the remaining First Men and Children of the Forest (your “green people”) thousands of yeas ago. They retreated north, farther north than any people live in the Lands of Always Winter, and weren’t seen again until recently.

    3. Pretty much the same story as the White Walkers, they went north and people haven’t seen them in a long time. You will learn more about them.

  150. Fatio Corcyn
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    SER POUNCE!!!,

    The White Walkers are not zombies, they are a different species, not ex-humans. They’re not humans at all and never were. The Wights, on the other hand, are dead humans revived by the White Walkers. Yes, zombies.

  151. WompWomp
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 2:02 am | Permalink

    Fatio Corcyn,

    This episode suggests otherwise. The evidence is strong that the White Walker turned the child into one of its own kind.

  152. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 2:07 am | Permalink

    Ser Pounce! Yes! Yes! Yes! Thank you Bryan Cogman, First Of His Name, King Of The Writer’s Room.

    We learned more about the White Walkers in this episode then we have in 5 whole books. I had had always suspected that the babies were transformed into White Walkers or were at least used to create more White Walkers. I wonder if this is just show canon and not exactly how it goes down in George’s brain? Either way, I’m fine with it.

    Jaime just gifted Brienne the equivalent of a Dior gown and Tiffany’s jewelry. It means he loves her! Who wouldn’t want to see a sex scene between those two in season 5/6?

    Did they just drop a hint at Sansa killing Littlefinger? “She’s not a killer…yet.”

    Loving Locke at the Wall. But have no clue what will happen in the next episode at Karl’s Keep. I sense another near encounter between Jon and Bran. Hopefully HodorBran kicks some ass.

    The Meereen scenes were fucking awesome. To think people didn’t like the Grey Worm casting choice. I think the actor is hitting a homerun with his portrayal. Oh, also, a huge Targaryen sigil! Loved it! Is that the first time we’ve seen the sigil in the show?

    Really good episode. On par with the first 2 of the season, which were great.

  153. Frozen Slagwurm (the Partially Unsullied)
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 2:07 am | Permalink

    Onion Knight,

    Thx guys. I did not know the reason they left. I know who the children of the forest were. Srry for confusion mixed up one story with another. I honestly don’t see how any one could beat the white walkers when they have undead army made up of your fallen unless you have a dragon or god on your side. My questions were merely speculatory and meant to be thought provoking as I am not a fully sullied and I wanted to read responses to my questions not here facts necessarily. In other words I didn’t want to hear they disappeared, I wanted to know what others thought of their reasons for disappearing or what they thought they did while gone. 5 more weeks till episode 9 of this season!!! can’t wait! Anyone else bored with Dany? I mean I love her previous seasons story lines but the last few episodes are just her doing the same thing over and over again. Travel to city. Make speech. Take over. Free slaves. Lather, rinse, repeat. Don’t get me wrong it’s epic…but it’s repetitive epic. You can only be awesome so many times before it becomes expected and boringly usual.

  154. Ragman's Harbor
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 2:18 am | Permalink

    I don’t know why I’ve thought of this, but I would have liked to see people react if the episode would have ended with ”The Bear and the Maiden Fair” by The Hold Steady. Da Fuck? X 100

    - Jon knows about Bran. I’ve never thrown a tantrum because of changes in the show. Dan and David know best….but if Jon and Bran actually meet, man I’ll be bummed.

    - Daenerys at the top of the pyramid with the Targaryen flag in the back was a little scary. Like she could go either way, greatness or madness.

    - Jaime, Brienne, Tyrion , Cersei, Sansa, Tommen, Margeary, Olenna. All great scenes. And correct me if I’m wrong but Olenna was never promised to a Targaryen. Was she?

    - 3 eps out of 4 without Theon. We now know who has to suffer for the other storylines to prosper…fine by me. And Stannis.

    - No Mountain, but Lysa next week. Stoked!

    Overall… 8.5

  155. UncleB
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:02 am | Permalink

    Great! Awesome episode! Well done!

  156. OurBladesAreSharp
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:43 am | Permalink

    Fatio Corcyn,

    Once again to quote AWOIAF, The White Walkers are the “Cold Children” of the Great Other, and obviously you see that they turn humans into White Walkers

  157. ANiceChianti
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    As I lay here next to my infant son, I can certainly say that, yes, there were some disturbing images in this episode.

  158. Ragman's Harbor
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    Why was my post deleted?

    I don’t know why I’ve thought of this, but I would have liked to see people react if the episode would have ended with ”The Bear and the Maiden Fair” by The Hold Steady. Da Fuck? X 100

    - Jon knows about Bran. I’ve never thrown a tantrum because of changes in the show. Dan and David know best….but if Jon and Bran actually meet, man I’ll be bummed.

    - Daenerys at the top of the pyramid with the Targaryen flag in the back was a little scary. Like she could go either way, greatness or madness.

    - Jaime, Brienne, Tyrion , Cersei, Sansa, Tommen, Margeary, Olenna. All great scenes. And correct me if I’m wrong but Olenna was never promised to a Targaryen. Was she?

    - 3 eps out of 4 without Theon. We now know who has to suffer for the other storylines to prosper…fine by me. And Stannis.

    - No Mountain, but Lysa next week. Stoked!

    Overall… 8.5

    ????

  159. Ragman's Harbor
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    Ragman’s Harbor,

    Nevermind, shit i’m tired

  160. Leonis
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Well it was a weird episode. For the first time, I’m not sure how I feel about a GoT episode. I’m not buying all the changes at and north of the Wall. It’s just seems a bit random and chaotic to me. I just don’t see the need of all the Mutineers business. There is more than enough stuff already going on, they didn’t need to add more creepy bad guys + rape scenes.

    Anyhoo, the rest was great! I loved the moment between Tommen, Margaery and ser Pounce and I can’t wait to see future scenes with Brienne and Pod! And I was actually relieved that neither Jaimie or Cersei mentioned that dreadful scene between Jaimie and Cersei. It helps me forget all about it!

    Well next episode will probably be quite epic. Even if I’m not a fan of the new Jon Snow arc development, it can’t be worse than what we already saw. Go and save your direwolf boy!

  161. Zack
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Well said, especially about Grey Worm. I’m really happy with most of Dany’s entourage, though. Like, I thought aging up Missandei was going to be horrible, like they would add sex scenes in place of the books’ lovely sisterly relationship. But I’m pleased they don’t seem to be interested in that, and are instead going with a Grey Worm/Missandei innocent romantic thing. I couldn’t be more satisfied with that area of it.

  162. WildSeed
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Agreed, and especially the White Walker scenario. I’d nearly dismissed it at first, because of the confounding events at Craster’s Keep, but this interpretation of the infant offspring sealed the contract for me. I’m on board with this invention. I wonder what this means down the line, for future seasons. Women, guard your male infants ? LMAO !

  163. WildSeed
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    ANiceChianti,

    I can only imagine the discomfiture with that image on screen, for you. The wailing babe was disquieting for my ears also, from the perspective of a female. Just keep repeating, ” it’s not real….. it’s not real………”

  164. WildSeed
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

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