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HBO releases details on the June episodes of Game of Thrones Season Four

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HBO has issued a press release revealing synopses for the episodes of Game of Thrones Season Four that will air in June. These final three episodes of the season will air after the Memorial Day weekend break in May, and promise to be action packed, ending with a grand finale like we haven’t seen before. Details for episodes eight through ten after the break.

Episode #38: “The Mountain and the Viper”
SUNDAY, JUNE 1 (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET/PT)
Unexpected visitors arrive in Mole’s Town; Littlefinger’s motives are questioned; Ramsay tries to prove himself to his father; Tyrion’s fate is decided.
Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by Alex Graves.

Episode #39: “The Watchers on the Wall”
SUNDAY, JUNE 8 (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET/PT) 
Jon Snow and the Night’s Watch face a big challenge.
Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by Neil Marshall.
 
Episode #40: “The Children”
SUNDAY, JUNE 15 (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET/PT) 
Circumstances change after an unexpected arrival from north of the Wall; Dany must face harsh realities; Bran learns more about his destiny; Tyrion sees the truth about his situation.
Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by Alex Graves.

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  • can’t wait for the duel between the mountain and oberyn, it’s one of my favorite scenes in the books.

  • I’m thinking the “realities” that Dany must face are the Dragon eats a kid and she learns that Jorah betrayed her (probably through the letter that Tywin was writing in this week’s episode).

  • Arya not mentioned in any of them yet again :(

    I want to know if she is in episode 8

  • At this rate, we’re going to be more or less completely caught up with Sansa’s book storyline at the end of this season. Wow.

  • Which means we’re getting Book 6 material for Sansa and Petyr next year, most likely. I would guess for several other plots, as well, but that one for sure. Exciting times.

  • Next week’s episode preview very clearly hints at “Only cat”. Lots of folks, me included, expected it in the finale, but it looks like they’re going into AFFC territory with Sansa aswell by the end of the season.
    Another storyline that will be “spoiled” for book readers next year if TWOW isn’t finished soon.

  • Why would they put “tyrion sees the truth about his situation” in episode 10, kind of removes the tension from episode 8

  • Andrew,
    What really sucks is that we haven’t read a single thought or scene with Sansa since 2005. Ugghh.

    House Mormont,
    I get goosebumps thinking about the great visuals we are going to witness in ep10.

  • Although it is a shame that the TV series will overtake the books, GrrM can only blame himself. He’s known about the series for 8 years, and still doesn’t sem in any rush to get the bookss out. I bet hen D& D signed up they thought that 6 books would be out by now, with the 7th one imminent. Alas…

    Anyway, super excited about these last 4 episodes. The off-season should be fairly interesting, with casting announcements, and season 5 promises to be the most unexpected and hard to predict for Sullied and Unsullied alike.

  • Javi Marcos,

    What do you mean by “Only Cat”? I mean, the description, where did you read that or heard that? I know about LS, but where?

  • the other guy,

    Except that Michelle Farley was never mentioned as being on set, and unless they have a completely new actress it will not happen. She was filming a different show while game of thrones filmed.

  • Off topic: Does anyone think that oberyn is similar to the cat from the shrek movies? :)

  • JohnnyRingo:
    the other guy,

    Except that ****** was never mentioned as being on set, and unless they have a completely new actress it will not happen. She was filming a different show while game of thrones filmed.

    I wasn’t talking about Lady Stoneheart, even though it is bound to happen as a cliffhanger to end season 4(much like the ending of ASOS). They would be foolish not to do it, it’s just too good and unexpected. By the way, Jason Momoa was never reported on set during season 2 and he ended up appearing during the House of the Undying scene. “Filming a different show” probably doesn’t matter either since they probably needed her for a very short filming time as she will only appear briefly.

    Oh and I think she kinda hinted that she would be pleased to return in a post season 3 interview.

    “Only cat” = Littlefinger throwing Lysa out the moon door, after she threatens Sansa’s life. Which is exactly what we see her do in the preview.

  • Why is it a shame?

    So the TV series overtakes the books. (shrug) Who cares. Enjoy both. I know I will.

    Jeb:
    Although it is a shame that the TV series will overtake the books.

  • the other guy,

    I actually remember Michelle being in Ireland at the time of the filming last year, I’m a big fans of her and she gave the radio interview around that time. Piece of cake bringing her on the set for one day.

  • So Littlefinger and Sansa are in episode 8 after all. I thought they really needed to be, but it didn’t sound like it from what we were hearing prior.

  • Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Oh ok now I remember that! I was expecting that scene to take place on the season finale. At least we’ll get to see LS in the season finale for sure

  • Well strike me stupid. Good points all of you! I do hope it makes an appearance! :)

  • WeirwoodTreeHugger:
    Who’s the unexpected arrival from north of the Wall?I assume Stannis, but wouldn’t that be in episode 9?

    It would. One imagines they’re just referring to the aftermath and how the status quo has been altered.

  • Andrew:
    At this rate, we’re going to be more or less completely caught up with Sansa’s book storyline at the end of this season.Wow.

    No we won’t. you need to read feast again.

  • Whoever writes these things is a grand-master of non-spoils!
    So little contained is the fewest words possible.

  • Stannis would not be coming from North of the Wall, he’d be coming from south of it

  • JohnnyRingo:
    the other guy,

    Except that Michelle Farley was never mentioned as being on set, and unless they have a completely new actress it will not happen. She was filming a different show while game of thrones filmed.

    Well we didn’t hear about Jason Mamoa on set for the end of Season 2.

  • wargsareawesome,

    No he came from the north that was the whole point. He attacked Mance’s camp. We’ve seen shots in the trailer of his troops riding through the Haunted Forest.

  • It looks like the Wall battle will extend to the season finale and Stannis won’t show up until episode 10. They said episode 10 was filled with the most special effects and CGI shots they have ever had to use but nobody could figure out what scene all the special effects would be for. Stannis’s arrival and take down of the Wildlings could be what many of those special effects shots are for.

  • Unrelated: Anyone else think Jon Umber will return in season 5 along with Rickon Stark and Osha?

  • The scene with the big budget cost has to be Dany locking up her dragons. They have to show men fighting against three dragons, two being chained while fighting back, probably killing some men in the process, and then show drogon escape and fly away. It has to be the one. That or they are going to give a glorious CG showing of Tywin’s bowels spilling in all different directions

  • JamesL,

    I’m not so sure about that. They can’t say Stannis’s arrival in the summary so they refer to it vaguely. I think that will still happen in episode nine but that episode ten will focus on how that changes the dynamic/status quo at the Wall.

    In other words. What Sati said.

  • interior bannisters:
    They have to show men fighting against three dragons, two being chained while fighting back, probably killing some men in the process, and then show drogon escape and fly away.

    “Killing some men”? I am thinking hundreds of UnSullied burning. This has got to be stunning…the dragons aren’t going willingly. This is one scene that I hope is much better than the passive description in ADwD.

  • Hodor’s Bastard: “Killing some men”? I am thinking hundreds of UnSullied burning. This has got to be stunning…the dragons aren’t going willingly. This is one scene that I hope is much better than the passive description in ADwD.

    Lol, a LOT of the cool action that could happen to Dany in ADWD is told in her head after it happens

  • D&D and Cogman love to put multiple meanings in their episode titles (like “Second Sons” referring to the sellswords and Tyrion and “Kissed by Fire” referring to Ygritte, the Hound, and the Mad King). “The Children” could add credibility to this theory about a trying to chain the dragons battle scene….”The Children in question being 1. The Children of the Forest 2. Tyrion and Jaime 3. The Dragons

  • wargsareawesome,

    Stannis would not be coming from North of the Wall, he’d be coming from south of it

    Actually Stannis does indeed come from north of the wall, at least in ASOS. As I recall he comes in from Eastwatch, picks up a bunch of nautical brothers along the way, marches to Castle Black on the North side of the Wall and engages the wildlings there.

  • interior bannisters: Lol, a LOT of the cool action that could happen to Dany in ADWD is told in her head after it happens

    Now that’s the idea! Adapting some non-POV events in ASoS, AFfC & ADwD in S4/S5 will help in telling the tale. Imho, it would be better to do that than making new arcs up. :)

  • “an unexpected arrival from north of the Wall”

    Please make it be who i think it be!!!!

  • Brad Villane:
    D&D and Cogman love to put multiple meanings in their episode titles (like “Second Sons” referring to the sellswords and Tyrion and “Kissed by Fire” referring to Ygritte, the Hound, and the Mad King). “The Children” could add credibility to this theory about a trying to chain the dragons battle scene….”The Children in question being 1. The Children of the Forest 2. Tyrion and Jaime 3. The Dragons

    And LS returning to avenge her children.

  • I’m hoping the unexpected arrival is Benjen, who has been monitoring the progress of the WW army and brings them the terrifying news.

  • StrokemeMarg:
    I’m hoping the unexpected arrival is Benjen, who has been monitoring the progress of the WW army and brings them the terrifying news.

    I wonder where is that bewildering WW/wight army that meandered past Sam the Lucky and slaughtered all those NWmen and horses at the Fist?

  • Leo,

    You’re kidding, right? Ghost ravaged one wight that was after Sam as the NW was escaping, but the Fist was an unseen slaughterfest for the WW/wights. Many of the NW troops died there. But I wonder where did the WW/wight army go from there? They haven’t been seen since.

  • Hodor’s Bastard,

    I wonder where is that bewildering WW/wight army that meandered past Sam the Lucky and slaughtered all those NWmen and horses at the Fist?

    The WW have their own engineering corps and are tunneling under the Wall. They will pop out at Moles Town, get one look at the women there and head back north again.

  • StrokemeMarg,

    So that’s what the tagline means for ep8: “Unexpected visitors arrive at Mole’s Town.” Thanks!

    The WWs are such a tactical bunch! :)

  • Leo:
    …giant WW army just chilling out there until the plot comes calling.

    :) That’s a great way to put it. Honestly though, I think they wandered over to Hardhome.

  • I think people who complain that the episodes are slow Ep 4 5 6(Except for the trial) should savor the slow moments now because when 8 9 10 hits the screens they might not have time to take it all in and exhale. They might say its going to fast.

  • Tony,

    Hannah Murray has been promoted to regular, she is I’m the opening credits. Killing her off early after two episodes would be ridiculous.

  • What are they going to do over the next season or 2 with Sansa and Littlefinger? It seems their story will have completely caught up with the books by the end of this season.

  • Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Wow, TP…you predicted his question!

    Topdecker,

    I think they have at least half a season of material from AFfC still to work with for Sansafinger. You know…BF and the Hound and Brienne and LS and Jaime are not too far away…Maybe Mya Stone could join her in an adventure or two?

  • Topdecker,

    I don’t think it will totally catch up, but even if so, and with any of the storylines that are ahead I suspect they’ll have to make some stuff up for an extended period either in season 5 or 6. I guess not if someone dies, they could just accelerate to the end but storylines that end up crossing paths would/will have to “stop and wait” for the other to catch up to the crossing point anyway. Should be interesting to see what plots/characters they focus on going forward.

  • are we getting another Dany “winning” moment as S4 finale…..does it always have to be her….

  • I’m pretty sure they’re going into post book material next season for virtually everyone. The only people who might not get any post book material are Cercei and Jon. Bran, Sansa and Arya definitely are and the others might.

  • Brad Villane:
    D&D and Cogman love to put multiple meanings in their episode titles (like “Second Sons” referring to the sellswords and Tyrion and “Kissed by Fire” referring to Ygritte, the Hound, and the Mad King). “The Children” could add credibility to this theory about a trying to chain the dragons battle scene….”The Children in question being 1. The Children of the Forest 2. Tyrion and Jaime 3. The Dragons

    Also Lady Stoneheart’s children

  • New theory regarding UnCat:

    She will surely not be seen resurrected this season. Nor will we see the Brotherhood (Beric, Thoros..). I couldn’t find any hint that any of the cast was involved this season.

    So hopefully in Season 5, Brienne and Pod will meet the Brotherhood and UnCat. Thoros will just explain that they found her and that Beric sacrificed himself.

  • Sean C.,

    I’d imagine it would play out in the books and the battle would wage till it appears hope is lost and then right at the end stannis arrives and saves the day. We may only just see who is leading the saviours at the last second(or not till ep10) kinda like the blackwater episode.

  • Emperor Cronos:
    I’m pretty sure they’re going into post book material next season for virtually everyone.The only people who might not get any post book material are Cercei and Jon.Bran, Sansa and Arya definitely are and the others might.

    Arya is the only POV who is both in AFFC & ADWD, she has plenty to do. I strongly doubt they’d already go into TWOW material with her, hell I am even 100% sure they won’t.

  • Also a question for the readers. Anyone got any idea on what the expensive scene in episode 10 would be? I can’t for the life of me figure it out from the books. There was an interview with D&D stating that there’s a scene in episode 10 that is the most expensive scene in the series thus far (dollars per second).

  • donks,

    The chaining of the Dragons maybe? They could add a little bit more “fire and blood” into the event.

  • donks,

    The only thing I can possibly imagine is the chaining of the dragons. I had dismissed the idea beforehand when others brought it up, until I read a comment in another article about the possibility that they are greatly expanding the sequence, adding a fight between the Dragons and some Unsullied and/or Second Sons trying to chain them up. Viserion and Rhaegal must be chained up somehow, while Drogon will have to escape. That adds up to a lot of fire effects, fight choreography between real people and creatures that aren’t even there, plus the CGI of the dragons itself… I think that might just be enough to warrant D&D’s description of the most expensive scene in terms of dollars per minute. Honestly, I am at a loss at what other scene could possibly call for such expense.

  • donks,

    The other possibility for the expensive scene is Bran reaching the Children of the Forest, if they include the white walker attack from that scene. However, it’s more likely to be the chaining of the dragons, as has already been mentioned.

  • Palpie,

    Actually, you’re wrong. Everything is starting to make sense now. AFFC’s first chapter is one that deals with the aftermath of Lysa’s death. Now, obviously, that is in this season. AFFC’s second chapter is the Lords Declarant- and this little conflict is beginning in episode 8. Not 10, 8. This likely means that we’ll have another Sansa scene in episode 10 (most/all storylines make it to finales). So we’ll be two scenes past Sansa’s first AFFC chapter. Sansa’s third AFFC chapter happens to be them leaving the Eyrie for winter. And guess what? The Eyrie set was dismantled this year. Coincidence? I wouldn’t be so sure.

  • Harry,

    argh i really hope it isnt a damn monologue from Thoros… that scene could be amazing and to just have Thoros explaining everything would be such a disservice especially to Beric… but i guess thats what is going to happen. lame.

  • jentario:
    Palpie,

    And guess what? The Eyrie set was dismantled this year. Coincidence? I wouldn’t be so sure.

    As I understood it the set that was dismantled was specifically the throne room of the Eyrie with the Moon Door. That isn’t the entire Eyrie, we’ve already scene other rooms there. All I take them dismantling it to mean is that they won’t need that set again after Lysa’s flight, not that they’re leaving the Eyrie entirely.

  • Ser Matt the Sullen,

    Yes, I also don’t hope so. But otherwise (from a producer view) it could be:

    A) more cost efficient. Otherwise it would have to have now in terms of timeline, and with the respective cast this season.

    B) this is a scene than can easily be made wrong (I mean too cheesy or too thrashy like in a zombie movie)

  • Troublesome Birdsong: As I understood it the set that was dismantled was specifically the throne room of the Eyrie with the Moon Door. That isn’t the entire Eyrie, we’ve already scene other rooms there. All I take them dismantling it to mean is that they won’t need that set again after Lysa’s flight, not that they’re leaving the Eyrie entirely.

    In the final Sansa/Alayne chapters, they are leaving the Eyrye for winter and relocating in the valley.

    EDIT: oops, sorry, this was already mentioned. Never mind. Nothing to see here.

  • the other guy,

    From what I remember, there were actors cast as lords/ladies of the Eyre, so yeah they should go on with the Sansa/Alayne chapters form AFFoC. Unfortunately, from the descriptions of the June episodes, I guess they won’t have much to do (a little more than extras).
    I see this episode no.9 will be like 2nd season’s 9th (Blackwater), as in, only one subject.
    Also, it seems that there will be no LS storyline (If they’ll go with this one I guess it will be probably in the second half of season 5).

  • House Mormont,

    Not necessarily.

    If Tyrion’s champion loses (the fight will probably be towards the end of that episode),then in ep. 10 he will get to contemplate on things or whatever before getting the axe/sword.

    If Tyrion’s champion will prevail, then he gets (eventually) out of jail and gets to ponder about his new status: married but with no wife, no lover, no place for him in KL, his father and sister will try to cook up something else to shorten him some more. and if he goes to the Northmen/Winterfell to claim his right (thru his marriage he’s part of the Starks now, isn’t he?) the Boltons will wanna chop his head off too.

    So there ya go…

  • If Lady Stoneheart doesn’t appear this season, I assume her revelation will be an intro scene of season 5. A perfect prologue before the opening credits.

  • donks,

    Maybe it will be regarding dragons. Good CG is not cheap, and probably will be a longer scene involving dragons, and since there are three of them the CG involved should be a TV episode budget-killer (even a GoT one).

  • Does this mean that Ygritte will be present at the battle at the wall and will die there in episode 9? I know it says in episode 8 she will probably die at molestown, but it seems too big of an event is already in episode 8 to have the appropriate emotional weight of Jon fighting Ygritte. What have people heard about this particular interaction?

  • More burning questions headed into the end of the season and looking to Season 5 (reposted from another thread)

    I’m with those who now think the Stannis appear comes in Episode 10. Would work because it separates the 2 key events – the Night Watch’s battle, and Jon treating with Mance and then Stannis saves the day.

    How will Brienne’s journey be constructed?

    Lots of us believe we’ll get a LS reveal at year-end, but I find it hard to believe they’ll waste that reveal on a couple of dead Freys who we don’t care about. Do they invert the journey to have Brienne in Season 5 searching for Jaime instead, and descending further into a hell that culminates with a tearful meeting on the Quiet Isle? I find it hard to believe also that they keep Gwen Christie off-screen for all of next season in order to reveal her later. Doesn’t seem the show’s MO. What it also might do as a true spoiler for Sullied is reveal whether Podrick is dead or not. He’s not with Brienne in ADwD – but if the BWB kill him what motivation does she have then to bring back Jaime? Why not flee the Riverlands entirely? Just a thought.

    Whither Gendry?
    Given the way D&D operate, is it possible we’ll see Gendry in the Riverlands, having managed to successfully find the BWB and again plead to join them? Doesn’t seem likely now that they betrayed him. Or is he gone for good?

    Will we get Osha/Rickon this year?
    Maybe one time?

    Will we get a Walder Frey appearance?
    No particular reason, but maybe just for kicks, so everyone can yell at the screen?

    How are those Iron Islands odds looking now?
    Pretty darned good. Yara goes back after Balon dies, we get Victarion for sure, Euron more than likely. Really, it’s a addition of one major new character, and the show can handle it.

  • What I’m looking forward to:

    Only Cat; the duel; the whole of episode 9, Tywin Lannister doesn’t shit gold; Lady Stoneheart, Jon becomes LC.

  • Im hoping these final 4 episodes are the best of the entire season. Ive got high expectations at this point.
    My season list will be starting from the best episode of the season to the worst. 10,9,8,7,6,2,1,5,4,3.
    Episode 3 was still great, just more boring than the others 7 is only high because of only cat

  • I think they can just do the shocking reveal of LS when Brienne stumbles upon the BWB…they bring her to see their *leader* for justice….unsullied wait to see Beric…BAM!

    Then she can yell out the name when she’s about to get hanged…or however that happened

  • Morna the Witch,

    How about these: Bran gets saved by the children of the forest and meets the Three Eyed Crow, Theon takes Moat Cailin and betrays his men, Arya leaves the Hound to die and takes a ship to Braavos, Dany chains her dragons after finding out they killed a child, Jon offered Winterfell and a legitimization…

    These three episodes are going to be crazy. Wow…

  • I think some people are hoping for too much with Dany’s arc. The dragon chaining will probably be in the beginning of season 5 otherwise there will be no dragon sighting until Drogon appears. Dany’s finale material will include Jorah’s “betrayal”, his banishment, & hopefully the burnt bones of a child. That’s quite enough if you think about it

  • UnbowdUnbentedUnhodor,

    They were pretty close IMO, but yeah. 4 was flawless, even though it featured slightly less exciting scenes. 6 had the one flaw (the editing of the Yara scene was way off- a bit jarring in an otherwise smooth episode).

  • GreatJon of Slumber:
    I’m with those who now think the Stannis appear comes in Episode 10. Would work because it separates the 2 key events – the Night Watch’s battle, and Jon treating with Mance and then Stannis saves the day.

    Lots of exciting ideas but I think the Stannis appearance would only be astonishing if he and his army of horsemen come crashing in during the final minutes of ep9, with a massive score by Ramin Djawadi leading us into the credits. Then ep10 deals with the political aftermath of his victory. Stannis needs his moment!

  • Blood Crow,

    How could they include the bones but not the chaining? I do agree it could have been better to open season 5 with that and end with Drogon’s return, but they ARE lacking in Dany material so it makes sense. There are also some people who think the scene at the Daznak Pit will happen earlier at the season (as in episode 4-7) and the battle of Meereen will make it in, which makes for a lot of dragon action- not that I am one of them. And you’re forgetting that Dany visits her locked up dragons a number of times, so they wouldn’t be completely gone. Judging by the dragon scenes this season, it seems they are going for quality and definitely not quantity.

  • Hodor’s Bastard,

    However they do it, they’ll still spoil the reveal by crediting the actors at the start (and bringing it up 9 episodes in advance).

    Edit: Though in the preview for Mockingbird, Mel & Selyse still appear to be on Dragonstone. Could this mean that trip to Braavos was just popping to the shops for bread and milk for Team Stannis? I hope they don’t forget to burn Orell’s eagle (or the Thenn Warg’s owl).

  • jentario,

    I agree. I really enjoy seeing yara and i liked the scene but i wish they show a proper escape where she fights off more guys or something.Im gunna rewatch them all after its done. My order will probably change a little. As long as 10,9,8 are awesome and the Only cat is amazing+snow winterfell is as beautifully sad as it was it my head ill be happy

  • Valyrian Plastic:
    However they do it, they’ll still spoil the reveal by crediting the actors at the start (and bringing it up 9 episodes in advance).

    Oh, I’ve been waiting for this classic moment for so long, there is nothing that will diminish it for me…unless they crowd it into ep10. Even with the previews, I doubt many of the Unsullied have a clue of the scale of this event. Neil Marshall shall rule June 8, 2014 and Grumpy Cat will get the respect he deserves!

  • UnbowdUnbentedUnhodor,

    I think we desperately need a Sansa monologue for that scene to work, where she tells Littlefinger about a time when it snowed and she had a snowball fight with her brothers and Arya… and end it all by saying “And now they’re all gone but me, and Winterfell is in ruins”

    heart=broken

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    They’ve been good at hiding it. I’m still unsure on whether we’ll see Mammoths. There was one dude somewhere that claimed he/she was cast as one (of a number IIRC) to play a Mammoth leg. If it wasn’t fake, I imagine that scene was hilarious to film. Just a couple of dudes holding onto a huge green cylinder.

  • jentario,

    Wow…I hadn’t even thought about the mammoth factor. I could take it or leave it…at least we will get Mag Mar Tun Doh Weg (Mag the Mighty!) crashing through the Wall’s tunnel!

    Regarding the episode ranking, I consider ep4 and ep6 equals. They both had awesome moments but both suffered from flaws in the invented material. I would even rank ep6 over ep4 just because they gave up on any opportunity for CH to contribute to Bran’s story (my personal beef with this season thus far). Who is going to take Donal Noye’s sacrificial role?

  • Jentario

    You know, you’re right about those other moments. :)

    The ones I listed are my personal stand outs in the book, but I think the others, especially Bran and co meeting Leaf and Bloodraven, as well as Arya taking that boat (and possibly meeting Jaqen again) will epic. And of course, Jon being offered Winterfell is included in my “whole of episode 9″ excitement. I just wonder if it will be possible to put in the offer, Jon pondering the offer,Jon rejecting the offer and then being elected LC in one episode. Hopefully he will have more than one scene then. All of this need to happen as D and D also said that everything in aSoS will happen in this season.

  • SeptEnfers,

    People have said that in the past… you know the White Walkers are not CGI, right? They add exhuming steam from their bodies and the blue eyes with CGI, but they are there. They are guys in costumes. Depicting their deaths by crystallization (as in Season 3 with Sam and Gilly) is probably quite expensive, but I fail to see how even that’ll be make it the most expensive scene.

  • We obviously have some Brienne and Pod scene’s coming up. Remember that trailer where the actress acts all crazy talking about biting off an ear. If we do get LS I assume it will be them meeting up with her

  • Hodor’s Bastard:
    jentario,
    Wow…I hadn’t even thought about the mammoth factor. I could take it or leave it…at least we will get Mag Mar Tun Doh Weg (Mag the Mighty!) crashing through the Wall’s tunnel! Who is going to take Donal Noye’s sacrificial role?

    Regarding the episode ranking, I consider ep4 and ep6 equals. They both had awesome moments but both suffered from flaws in the invented material. I would even rank ep6 over ep4 just because they gave up on any opportunity for CH to contribute to Bran’s story (my personal beef with this season thus far).

    Ughh! I couldn’t edit my post once submitted. The last sentence in my prev post should have belonged in the first paragraph. I have updated my post in the blockquote above.

  • jentario,

    They guy who said he played a mammoth’s leg also posted a picture of himself in a green suit on location (nothing revealing shown), so if it’s indeed true I think we’re in for something awesome!

  • Ser Rib:
    We obviously have some Brienne and Pod scene’s coming up.Remember that trailer where the actress acts all crazy talking about biting off an ear. If we do get LS I assume it will be them meeting up with her

    I hope Brienne manages to avoid getting her own face bitten through during that confrontation with Biter. That was a particularly jarring scene in AFfC.

  • Man, these last 4 episodes are going to be so amazing!

    I can’t wait for The Viper vs. The Mountain. (Oberyn better say those lines from the book).

    Also, I see a lot of you really believe Lady Stoneheart is coming to the TV show, I hope you’re right but what evidence do you have to support your excitement about this?

    Please share with me?

  • Arthur,

    I dont see why people keep expect to be cut. What evidence do you need?
    There was no reason to include Beric and Thoros
    if not for this.

  • House Mormont:
    Why would they put “tyrion sees the truth about his situation” in episode 10, kind of removes the tension from episode 8

    Not really; the statement is vague enough (“sees the truth about his situation”) that it could support a number of trial outcomes: he was found innocent but the “truth of his situation” is that Cersei is out to get him regardless; he was found guilty, and the “truth of his situation” is that there is no escape from his impending execution; etc. etc. etc.

  • Hodor’s Bastard: Lots of exciting ideas but I think the Stannis appearance would only be astonishing if he and his army of horsemen come crashing in during the final minutes of ep9, with a massive score by Ramin Djawadi leading us into the credits. Then ep10 deals with the political aftermath of his victory. Stannis needs his moment!

    I think it works either way. You could end up doing it where Stannis shows up in Ep 10, ending on a note of despair with Ep 9, a brief interlude, and then ba-bang. But maybe I’m wrong. Either way there’s a lot of material to cover in the last episode, for sure, so who cares.

  • Arthur,

    The title of ep8 seems to indicate that we’ll get a significant rationale for Oberyn’s nickname at some point soon!

  • Tatters,

    I dont see why people keep expect her to be cut. What evidence do you need?
    There was no reason to include Beric and Thoros
    if not for this.

    I hope you’re right! I just am nervous she got cut… If someone could give me some uncovered evidence that she hasn’t that would make me happy.

    That’s all I am asking…

  • jentario:
    Blood Crow,

    How could they include the bones but not the chaining? I do agree it could have been better to open season 5 with that and end with Drogon’s return, but they ARE lacking in Dany material so it makes sense. There are also some people who think the scene at the Daznak Pit will happen earlier at the season (as in episode 4-7) and the battle of Meereen will make it in, which makes for a lot of dragon action- not that I am one of them. And you’re forgetting that Dany visits her locked up dragons a number of times, so they wouldn’t be completely gone. Judging by the dragon scenes this season, it seems they are going for quality and definitely not quantity.

    To me the betrayal by Jorah is nearly enough for a finale. If we both agree that LS is going to be the last thing we see in Season 4, the bones could work well as a Season 5 opener. Or, she sees the bones earlier, and then Season 5 cold open begins with the dragons being chained, so it’s more in the realm of “emotionally wrenching” a la Two Swords opener rather than the WTF OMG opens of Seasons 1 and to a lesser extent, 3.

  • Arthur,

    Oh, Christ here we go again. Evidence? How about this?

    1. Why would they cut her?
    2. She is in the book

    But I’ll play along:

    1. BwB being introduced and all the talk of resurrection
    2. Bran’s creepy dream with pale and manic Cat
    3. Sansa’s mentioning how her mother body was tossed in the river
    4. all the mentions of Catelyn this season
    5. Arya adding Beric and Thoros to her list – a reminder for the audience
    6. Lena Headeey joking about how Fairley ‘had throat infection….it’s funny…because of what happens later’ in her interview with Conan after RW episode
    7. Lena posting a picture of a heart made out of stones on instagram
    8. guy who plays Anguy has a scene this season
    9. Gwendoline while talking about deaths – ‘R. Madden, O. Chaplin, CATELYN STARK’. Because Fairley is obviously still in the show.

  • Hodor’s Bastard,

    Oh yeah, show Oberyn still hasn’t been introduced to the TV viewer as The Red Viper…

    Hopefully we will get some backround story on Oberyn and finally hear his nickname…

    Damn!!! I CAN’T WAIT!!!!!

    I am going to be all choked up and teary eyed watching the duel and have to watch it 50 times on youtube once someone uploads it… =)

  • Stannis is in episode 9. Neil Marshall described 3 seperate battles happening in his episode. I took that to mean NW vs Wildlings(South of the Wall),NW vs Wildlings(North of the Wall), and Wildlings vs Stannis’ army.

  • sati,

    Okay, okay no need to get hostile… I am just very skeptical by nature.

    I can also add another piece of evidence to your very thorough list…

    I remember during an Australian interview with Michele, Lena and GRRM Michele mentioned twice, TWICE about Cat’s death and said something like this.

    “I wish Cat was never killed and still had a beating heart” She specifically said “beating heart”, why? BECAUSE NOW SHE HAS A STONEHEART! =)

    I just don’t want to be disappointed so I keep my hopes down…

  • sati,

    But there is one thing missing…

    They have got to start mentioning in KL about the ramped up random attacks on Lannister/Frey troops in the Riverlands by the BwB and (hopefully) wolfpacks in order to build up to the stunning reveal. Please let it be so!

  • Tyrion Pimpslap,
    I hope Djawadi brings it with the music during Stannis’ arrival on the north side of CB. I’m thinking “Ride of the Valkyries” (by Wagner) level of awesomeness.

  • Arthur,

    The question ‘is LS cut?’ appears daily, multiple times on every fanboard. Why even ask about something like this?

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    They could do that, but it’s not material to the fact if she is in the show. A lack of build up may make the shock bigger.

  • Arthur:
    sati,

    Okay, okay no need to get hostile… I am just very skeptical by nature.

    It’s best not to take Sati personally. Last year at this time she was insisting that it was certain beyond all doubt that the last scene of Season 3 would be Lady Stoneheart’s resurrection. Obviously that didn’t come to pass, and this year is no different: nobody has any “evidence” of what we’ll see, or when. I seriously doubt that the character has been cut completely, but there is no concrete evidence at present as to when they will show up. It very well could be this season; it very well could be next season encountered by Brienne later in her journey. At this point it’s impossible to tell, and anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong.

  • MRR,

    I wasn’t the only one expecting resurrection in s3 finale, but it’s hilarious you still being so butthurt.

    “I seriously doubt that the character has been cut completely” changing the tune from ‘she is tacky and gonna get cut!’ I bet.

  • MRR,

    Yes I agree with your train of thought.

    There is no hard evidence, just little things here and there that can be seen as hints pointing towards her coming to the TV show.

    That’s why I always hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

    If I get my hopes up, and she doesn’t appear this season, I will be let down.

    But if I don’t assume anything my viewing experience will be much more positive.

  • Arthur,

    There wouldn’t be any hard evidence, they want to keep plot twists under wraps. But if she was cut, we’d hear of it, like with Coldhands and all the other characters.

    But what do I know? Apparently a person is not allowed to predict something will happen and then change the prediction, adding more hints to the equation. What a crime.

  • sati,

    No, you weren’t the only one, but you were among the most vocal and ridiculous of those insisting that the scene just had to be the last shot of Season 3. I don’t remember you because you bothered me; I remember you because your opinions and your expression of them was hilarious. Someone else noted your hostility, so I figured I’d give them some context so that they wouldn’t take your tone too seriously. My opinion now hasn’t changed from what it was then: I don’t think the character has been cut, but we have no clear indication of when the introduction will happen, and looking for “clues” to try to “prove” it is just silliness. I thought it could have been at the end of S3, but I was justifiably skeptical. I also think it could be at the end of this season, but I am also justifiably skeptical.

  • sati:
    Arthur,

    Apparently a person is not allowed to predict something will happen and then change the prediction, adding more hints to the equation. What a crime.

    Predict all you like, just try to refrain from attacking people who are skeptical or who disagree.

  • MRR,

    I assure you not as hilarious and silly as a person remembering who wrote what a year ago…on a fanboard when it comes to speculation….about a scene…in a TV show.

  • sati,

    There wouldn’t be any hard evidence, they want to keep plot twists under wraps.

    As you probably already know, the regulars that post comments here find hard evidence of things yet to come on the TV show all the time.

    I am amazed of the detective skills these people have.

    That’s what I was looking for when referring to the term “hard evidence”, so far all we have is hints and assumptions which is fine.

    I really do hope she appears this season, I am with you on that front 100%. I am just trying to understand why some of you are so sure of it, was wondering if you knew something I didn’t, that’s all.

  • Arthur,

    Well I do apologize if you found my tone harsh I hope you understand it’s simply thanks to the frequency of the question. For me the lack of news of someone not being on the show is a confirmation of them being in until we actually don’t see them on the screen. Then we can worry :)

    There is a slight difference between regular scene and season ending scene, isn’t there, though. They keep it a secret year after year, from what I recall.

  • sati,

    There is a slight difference between regular scene and season ending scene, isn’t there, though. They keep it a secret year after year, from what I recall.

    Agreed, hopefully she will be in a season ending climax this year, or the season opener next year (like the book).

    Like I said, I just don’t want to build my hopes up because that only leaves the door open for disappointment.

    But if any of you Throners have hard evidence by all means let us know!

  • Arthur,

    I would personally find having her in opening a bit of a disservice to a chilling scene, it’s just such a fantastic cliffhanger season ending moment.

    To be fair looking for clues won’t help with lowering expectations here, trust me it happened to me last year ^^

  • sati,

    To be fair looking for clues won’t help with lowering expectations here, trust me it happened to me last year ^^

    Me too! That’s why I don’t want to expect anything this year…

    Last year even after Dany went crowd surfing and the credits rolled I sat there waiting, expecting to see a LS scene and nothing.

    That’s why this year I just want to enjoy the last episodes without expectation…

    Anyway, your detailed list of hints was awesome. Hope you’re correct but I still refuse to expect it =)

  • Arthur,

    What is the point of Brienne and Pod if LS gets cut? Also, it’s a pretty big story element. D&D don’t do that (or won’t until season 5 with the Iron Islands, though no one really knows).

  • Arthur,

    Wish I could do that and just chill – I too sat in front of the screen practically with my jaw dropped after end credits started in finale last year. I was so underwhelmed.

    I’m just dying to see what she looks like on the show.

  • sati,

    Wish I could do that and just chill – I too sat in front of the screen practically with my jaw dropped after end credits started in finale last year. I was so underwhelmed.

    I thought after the credits we’d see Nymeria sniffing around then jumping into a river, grabbing Cat and dragging her to shore, then Nymeria running off and the BwB stumbling upon her, then screen to black…

    Something like that anyway… I also felt it was a wasted opportunity but will reserve judgment until we see what D&D have planned.

  • Karl Tanner:
    Fatio Corcyn,

    Nope, Victarion, Cersei and Asha are both POVs in ADWD and AFFC for instance, Arya’s not the only one.

    Listen here mate, there’s only one legend around here you stoopid Fookin c*nt and it isn’t you

  • sati:
    Arthur,

    8. guy who plays Anguy has a scene this season

    Man I hope this is the true. I desperately want Brienne’s last AFFC chapter this year. Where did you hear this?

  • GRENN is who i think will take that role, i remember seeing a shot of them (green included) jumping back in a tunnel behind a gateso one would assume it would be him
    Hodor’s Bastard,

  • the one true bastard,

    Poor Grenn! I wonder how many familiar NWmen we’ll lose during ep9. I think Alliser will also perish…maybe Dolorous Edd? They’ve got to save Slynt for “Fetch me a Block” in S5, I’m assuming.

  • The show doesn’t seem adverse to throwing in filler when needed so I wonder if the introduction of Ramsey’s companion “Miranda” could be used somehow for the Sansa/LF storyline, being that there was a character with that name in the books. They were cautious with changing stuff like Asha/Yara so it seems too weird of a coincidence.

    Not too say it couldn’t also happen in the books going forward – a potential spoiler for sullied! :D

  • I don’t understand why people expected LS in the season 3 finale. It was way early for that. That would be like GRRM making her appear 3 chapters after the RW.

    The end of season 4 is the perfect time for it.

  • Annara Snow,
    No one expecting the epilogue to be in S3. What people were hoping to see was something like the scene in the books where Arya is warged in Nymeria and she pulls Catelyn’s body out of the river.

  • Ser Tahu,

    IMO it should have happened in the premiere, right after the credits, followed by a short conversation between Arya and the Hound where she talks of Nymeria.

  • jentario,
    When it didn’t happen in S3 I wanted it to be a cold open to the premiere, with the Brotherhood finding the body and Beric commenting on the atrocities committed by House Frey. It would have been a nice little send-off for Beric (without viewers realising it is a send off until LS appears in the finale), and could have set them up to mention the Brotherhood hanging Frey’s throughout the season. But alas, it did not happen.

  • Ser Tahu,

    I don’t think Berric will die like that in the show… It felt very wrong in the books and more so in the show since it isn’t a “kiss” anymore.

  • Ser Tahu:
    jentario,
    When it didn’t happen in S3 I wanted it to be a cold open to the premiere, with the Brotherhood finding the body and Beric commenting on the atrocities committed by House Frey. It would have been a nice little send-off for Beric (without viewers realising it is a send off until LS appears in the finale), and could have set them up to mention the Brotherhood hanging Frey’s throughout the season. But alas, it did not happen.

    Although I thought the “Two Swords” cold open for S4 was a great idea, I was secretly hoping for that BwB/Nymeria scene as well. In my head, the non-PoV resurrection will always be the last scene of S3 (Mhysa!!!!!!!!) or the first scene of an early S4 episode (which obviously didn’t happen). Now, no CH, either. (Grrr!) So, I am anxiously awaiting a few sentences between Tywin and another at KL when they discuss crazy violent random attacks on Lannister/Frey troops by the BwB or a wolfpack in the Riverlands. THEY MUST KNOW THAT A VERY PURPOSEFUL INSURRECTION IS HAPPENING!…and Briene/Pod will wander right into the middle of it!

  • sati:
    MRR,

    You mean like you using the words ‘silliness’, ‘ridiculous’ and ‘hilarious’?

    “OMG someone said I was being ‘silly’ online! That’s so hostile!”
    Who’s being “butthurt” now?

    I really don’t know what to expect from the show anymore. A lot of things that become quite important in the books and that wouldn’t take much to film (such as Arya waking from one of her “wolf dreams” and describing it to Sandor) are being cut; many reveals are happening in quite different contexts or distinctly out-of-order from the books (such as Lysa’s revelation about Jon Arryn – it makes a little more sense when she’s in a moment of complete hysteria than just when she’s happy to see Petyr); the relationships of important characters are being mixed up (Jaime doesn’t abandon his genuine love for Cersei until much later in the books, Sam isn’t sworn to secrecy about Bran’s presence which adds some depth to his character, and the Dany/Barristan interactions have been pretty thin on the show thusfar compared to the books); we’re getting whole new scenes with questionable dramatic effect (I thought the Craster’s Keep/mutineers situation was pretty cartoonish, and the chance for Bran to meet Jon seemed like too much of a retread of their chance in the Gift); etc. etc. etc. Some of these changes have no doubt been necessary, but some of them seem pretty off-the-wall to me. At this point I’m not really sure what to expect from the show, and what might seem like set-up for important events that happen in the books might turn into something completely different in the show.

  • Hodor’s Bastard: Although I thought the “Two Swords” cold open for S4 was a great idea, I was secretly hoping for that BwB/Nymeria scene as well. In my head, the non-PoV resurrection will always be the last scene of S3 (Mhysa!!!!!!!!) or the first scene of an early S4 episode (which obviously didn’t happen). Now, no CH, either. (Grrr!) So, I am anxiously awaiting a few sentences between Tywin and another at KL when they discuss crazy violent random attacks on Lannister/Frey troops by the BwB or a wolfpack in the Riverlands. THEY MUST KNOW THAT A VERY PURPOSEFUL INSURRECTION IS HAPPENING!…and Briene/Pod will wander right into the middle of it!

    I wonder if Tywin will have any discussion about the BwB with Ser Gregor when he arrives in King’s Landing. Gregor was supposed to be dealing with them, and hasn’t been very successful. It could be a good opportunity to let viewers know that they’re still around (and they’re pissed at the Freys) before revealing the change in leadership

    Also, there was another reference to guest right and divine curses for violating it when Sandor and Arya stayed at the farm house. I think Lady Stoneheart is far too important to cut completely, and I suspect we’ll see her by the end of this season, but I’m concerned that they might cut Arya’s wolf dreams and Nymeria’s role. I hope they don’t cut that, because it seems quite important to Arya holding on to her identity in books 4 & 5. I could definitely see them scaling down Nymeria’s pack to just an ordinary sized wolf pack, or even Nymeria as a lone wolf, and I’d be fine with that, but if they cut Nymeria completely, I’ll be quite disappointed.

  • the other guy,

    They could have filmed it last season. They would have all the actors there (BWB) and wouldn’t need any of them to return for shooting.

  • Casso: I wonder if Tywin will have any discussion about the BwB with Ser Gregor when he arrives in King’s Landing.Gregor was supposed to be dealing with them, and hasn’t been very successful.It could be a good opportunity to let viewers know that they’re still around (and they’re pissed at the Freys) before revealing the change in leadership


    Also, there was another reference to guest right and divine curses for violating it when Sandor and Arya stayed at the farm house.I think Lady Stoneheart is far too important to cut completely, and I suspect we’ll see her by the end of this season, but I’m concerned that they might cut Arya’s wolf dreams and Nymeria’s role.I hope they don’t cut that, because it seems quite important to Arya holding on to her identity in books 4 & 5.I could definitely see them scaling down Nymeria’s pack to just an ordinary sized wolf pack, or even Nymeria as a lone wolf, and I’d be fine with that, but if they cut Nymeria completely, I’ll be quite disappointed.

    Yes! They had a chance to have that “riverlands activity” conversation in this past episode. Tywin & the small council needs to hear of the grassroots insurrection going on there…hopefully via the Mountain or his men. Unfortunately, they only have one more episode to have that conversation. Imho, we the viewers need some sort of logical insight for this situation to unfold properly…most likely for Brienne.

    I also hope that they exploit the Nymeria-Arya connection but show Arya definitely hasn’t displayed any warg dreams. I agree that her dreams are her ties to Westeros while she is faceless in Braavos. Even the most recent TWoW chapter released, Mercy, has a warg dream in it. I will be disappointed as well if we don’t hear of Nymeria soon. Hopefully, she’s not in a cage somewhere…like Ghost was.

  • Mod, could you please get my response to Casso out of your spam filter? Thanks. It has 2 paragraphs in it.

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  • Still loving the show, but when they kill off Tyrion, I am done! That leaves only the Dragon Queen as a person of interest. I have had my fill of the other the other sadistic Lannisters.