Video Recap Roundup: Season 4, Episode 9 “The Watchers on the Wall”
By Bex on in Recap.

Lots of action this week on Thrones with Neil Marshall leading a film-caliber production as the wildlings converge on the Wall.

Our favorite reviewer from Down Under brings another week of dry humor. Also, commemorates the top blokes of episode 9.

Read the books:

Comicbookgirl

Emergency Awesome

History of Westeros

Sawyer7mage

Joanie and Zuzu of Game of Thongs

 

Unsullied:

Dino and Byron

Larry of Otaku Assemble

Gay of Thrones

 

Combinations:

What the Flick?!?

Sandrine at HappyCool

Sourcefed NERD

Total Film

Think Hero

 

Seems like there is more action to come on the Wall front, and plenty to look forward to with Jon & co. in the season finale. Despite all the falling bodies, we were not treated to the classic Wilhelm scream this week. Fingers crossed?

Again, please remember to use the spoiler code when discussing probable events in the finale!

 


Winter is Coming Live, The Watchers On The Wall… by winteriscoming

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39 Comments

  1. BranSnow
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Looking forward to ep 10!!!!!! And season 5!!!!!

  2. Harry Lime
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    I never thought Otaku Assemble would stoop this low.

  3. GoT
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    You guys shouldn’t include Otaku Assemble. His reviews have gone from fairly insightful to absolutely pitiful. Most people would agree. He’s shot himself in the foot the past several weeks. He just comes off as a hater. He has no legitimate reason (or even a reason, period) for all the hate he’s been bringing. He comes off sounding like the one guy who gave Toy Story 3 a negative response. He sounds like a teenage boy who’s hating on Twilight. He’s never seen it, doesn’t get why people watch it, and hates on it because is immensely popular. Different between GoT and Twilight is that GoT is actually awesome and well done all around. If you’re going to post negative reviews then you better be able to explain yourself, which he doesn’t and can’t.

  4. Falcon
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    Harry Lime,

    The show (Oberyn’s death specifically) broke him to the point where he doesn’t even care to maintain his channels quality. At least his episode 8 review was a review.

  5. Sarella
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    It’s an insult to Dino and Byron they have to be on the same list as no-brainer-Larry.

  6. Lyn
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Gay of Thrones is so funny. The ”excuse me, housekeeping” part is hilarious.

  7. Lyanna_Targaryen
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    You guys shouldn’t include Otaku Assemble. His reviews have gone from fairly insightful to absolutely pitiful. Most people would agree. He’s shot himself in the foot the past several weeks. He just comes off as a hater. He has no legitimate reason (or even a reason, period) for all the hate he’s been bringing. He comes off sounding like the one guy who gave Toy Story 3 a negative response. He sounds like a teenage boy who’s hating on Twilight. He’s never seen it, doesn’t get why people watch it, and hates on it because is immensely popular. Different between GoT and Twilight is that GoT is actually awesome and well done all around. If you’re going to post negative reviews then you better be able to explain yourself, which he doesn’t and can’t.

    Alllll of this. This is actually one of the only reviews I’ve seen of Larry’s after reading about him for awhile. It’s not even a review, it’s an eye-rolling I-don’t-care fest. Not one speck of thoughtful criticism, just “I didn’t care about X, I didn’t care about Y, I didn’t care about Z.” No reasons. Just bitchy dreck.

    No, every review doesn’t have to praise and kiss ass, but Larry Williams just comes off as a troll at this point.

  8. Nikola S
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    You guys forgot the review from Schmoes Know, unsullied

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpCOs-FqTiY

  9. Nikola S
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Lyanna_Targaryen: Alllll of this. This is actually one of the only reviews I’ve seen of Larry’s after reading about him for awhile. It’s not even a review, it’s an eye-rolling I-don’t-care fest. Not one speck of thoughtful criticism, just “I didn’t care about X, I didn’t care about Y, I didn’t care about Z.” No reasons. Just bitchy dreck.

    No, every review doesn’t have to praise and kiss ass, but Larry Williams just comes off as a troll at this point.

    Agreed!

  10. Hexonx
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Unsullied friend at work just pointed out that this ep is on father’s day and wondered if they were doing anything special. I had a hard time suppressing my laughter, lol.

  11. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Take out Larry, who literally has nothing to offer in terms of analysis or criticism, and add in the Schmoes Know guys.

    Also, once again, loved Dino & Byron’s review. I also like how, as they talked the episode through (or, rather, the characters through), they realized that this episode was a lot stronger than they had initially thought.

    In fact, having had nearly a week (and a re-watch) to let it stew, I have to say that The Watchers on the Wall was a fantastic episode of the show. The Wall story line is such a slow burn (even in the books) that it is easy for the lack of momentum to correlate with a lack of build-up, but in the grand scheme of the show, I think they really paid off four seasons worth of development for Jon Snow, Samwell, and especially Aliser Thorne.

    Definitely looking forward to the happenings at Castle Black and the North next season, maybe even more than I was after I finished ASoS.

  12. Dolorous Ned
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    I actually liked Larry’s reviews this season, it seemed like he had his enthusiasm back. But every time the story doesn’t follow his expectations He goes into bitching mode. At this point it’s just childish.

  13. Felt Pelt
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    I know I should stop watching Larry/Otaku Assemble’s stuff, but I can’t turn away. It has aspects of trainwrecks and mental illness but there are moments. I’m thinking of the “Small Council meeting” about the Oberyn episode, which was amazing in its cringeworthiness and I highly recommend, sort of, especially if you’re listening to it as radio on in the background and are addicted to all things GoT.

    He had a fellow commenter rant for minutes upon end about how no one could have empathy for Sansa Stark, because she wasn’t really a character, and that all the other people were misdefining empathy, and then explain that he didn’t believe that empathy is actually possible between human beings because he had read it in a book. This took up at least 10 to 15 minutes, and was completely wrong in its definition: angry high-pitched nerdy ranting from isolation, which made Larry seem reserved and humorous by comparison, until he took the floor to deliver his own angry rant. He specifically described the show as cynical, and said its message, “that bad people succeed,” was disturbing to him, and false.

    His reaction is interesting because he takes the show’s attempt at a realistic fictional universe as being unrealistic and unenjoyable, when arguably it’s approximating real life better than other standard fare.

    Yesterday’s Small Council meeting, about the Watchers on the Wall, is funnier, and so far just involves Larry wearing sunglasses with a toothpick in his mouth saying short deprecating jokes while the other people praise the episode.

  14. icspotz
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    Just want to put in a good word for Tony Teflon and James and LaDonna’s reviews. Tony Teflon: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz7FuRHvd0CpH8vwKqU9Ruw
    James and LaDonna: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWdKsgaojJt26v-T2H3v60A
    some of my favorite reviewers plus theory and prophecy discussion of the books and HBO series

  15. Interior Bannisters
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    icspotz:
    Just want to put in a good word for Tony Teflon and James and LaDonna’s reviews. Tony Teflon: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz7FuRHvd0CpH8vwKqU9Ruw
    James and LaDonna: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWdKsgaojJt26v-T2H3v60A
    some of my favorite reviewers plus theory and prophecy discussion of the books and HBO series

    If you read the books, WATCH JAMES AND LADONNA. They are amazing. Their reviews are 3 hours long of intelligent discussions and theories from the books that will blow your mind. 3 hours seems like 10 minutes watching their videos. Their discussions are so stimulating and get your brain thinking.

  16. vosh
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    Please stop promoting Larry’s reviews, or at least include a spoiler warning for Unsullied. He dished out MASSIVE spoilers with ZERO warning in the group review he posted yesterday. The man is a disgrace.

  17. Meraxes
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    vosh,

    Can you say which parts did he spoil? :O kind of curious to know but I just can´t bring myself to suffer 45 min to find out :/

  18. Obsidian
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    It’s been kind of sad to see Larry’s reviews deteriorate to this. In the early days, it was fun as a book reader to sort of re-live the thrill of discovering George’s world through Larry.

    I suppose everyone brings their own expectations to a new book or TV show, but usually , those expectations change as you progress farther into the story. But Larry has continued to apply some outside standard that to me,seems like he wants it to follow predictable fantasy cliches – the very thing that both the books and show try to avoid.

    I was stunned that he could have so misunderstood Arya’s reaction to the news of Lysa’s death, after watching all the character’s been through over the past 4 seasons.. and earlier this season , I feared he was investing far too much in Oberyn , piling on expectations formed by other stories, for it to end well.

    Whattheflick is still my fave – coupling insightful discussion with Cenk’s enthusiasm ;).

  19. Meraxes
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Obsidian,

    Yeah it kinda makes me sad that Larry has gone down that way. His season 1 reviews were so great! I’m actually rewatching his thoughts of the series premiere and man! I miss THAT Larry, he was so passionate back then
    I’m actually wondering what happened to him between season 1 and 2, that’s were his general passion kind of died out

  20. Harry Lime
    Posted June 14, 2014 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    Felt Pelt:
    I know I should stop watching Larry/Otaku Assemble’s stuff, but I can’t turn away. It has aspects of trainwrecks and mental illness but there are moments. I’m thinking of the “Small Council meeting” about the Oberyn episode, which was amazing in its cringeworthiness and I highly recommend, sort of, especially if you’re listening to it as radio on in the background and are addicted to all things GoT.

    He had a fellow commenter rant for minutes upon end about how no one could have empathy for Sansa Stark, because she wasn’t really a character, and that all the other people were misdefining empathy, and then explain that he didn’t believe that empathy is actually possible between human beings because he had read it in a book. This took up at least 10 to 15 minutes, and was completely wrong in its definition: angry high-pitched nerdy ranting from isolation, which made Larry seem reserved and humorous by comparison, until he took the floor to deliver his own angry rant. He specifically described the show as cynical, and said its message, “that bad people succeed,” was disturbing to him, and false.

    His reaction is interesting because he takes the show’s attempt at arealistic fictional universe as being unrealistic and unenjoyable, when arguably it’s approximating real life better than other standard fare.

    Yesterday’s Small Council meeting, about the Watchers on the Wall, is funnier, and so far just involves Larry wearing sunglasses with a toothpick in his mouth saying short deprecating jokes while the other people praise the episode.

    Lol, I missed the “Small Council” yesterday, because I forgot I unsubscribed. I don’t think I’ll sit through another hour and a half of his childishness. I’ll just watch his final review for closure and part ways from there.

  21. KG
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    Nikola S,

    I really like Schmoes Know and We Watched a Movie.

  22. Bittersteel
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    Its funny how reviewers compare a new line cinema produced helms deep battle vs a tv show run by HBO budget. Fucking sad and it shows how no other tv show in history has any battles to match GOT. good job D&D and the film crew.

  23. Poetic Rice
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    Re-watching the battle of the wall right now. Fantastic stuff. I think half the reason the battles of Got look so good is because of the sparing use of CGI

  24. vosh
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 2:31 am | Permalink

    Meraxes,

    Someone asked Larry to predict what will happen and he said “Tyrion will live, someone will die in King’s Landing, someone will come help the Night’s Watch, and an old character will resurface.” Hopefully Unsullied will just think he was guessing but he spoke with the confidence of someone who knows what happens and he’s admitted before to having a friend give him spoilers when he got mad at the show. In another part of the video he said he knows what Stannis will do and hinted that it’s something positive.

    Unsullied should be wary of Larry’s “reviews.” He’s just trolling fans at this point and doing a bad Charlie Sheen impersonation with talk of how he’s “winning.”

  25. The Ghost of Nymeria, of House Shaggydog, Breaker of Summer & Lady of the Grey Wind
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 3:22 am | Permalink

    Guys. Seriously. Lose Larry. The idea that he’s included in the same list as What the Flick, Comicbookgirl19 & D&B is ridiculous.

  26. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 3:31 am | Permalink

    Phew, just under the wire again! Here’s my recap/review for Episode 9, The Watchers on the Wall–http://drangedinaz.wordpress.com/2014/06/15/20-things-about-the-watchers-on-the-wall-s4-e9/

    Hope you enjoy it!

  27. Dorian
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 5:00 am | Permalink

    Yes, please, stop linking Larry Williams abominable efforts. The guy’s just trolling the fanbase at this point. What a baby.

  28. Grimnir
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 6:17 am | Permalink

    Larry is no Unsullied anymore. His buddy “filled him in” on all major deaths and plotpoints…
    And he wonders why he cannot enjoy it anymore. Pathetic.

  29. KG
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 6:18 am | Permalink

    From what I can see, he’s got some sort of OCD variant going on.

    My best friend had it when I was growing up. He would get all frothing-mouthed into something – go completely overboard ga-ga about it, then completely turn off on that topic and be vaguely resentful and hostile toward it ever after.

    Meraxes,

  30. KG
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 6:20 am | Permalink

    The only reason Larry Williams started reviewing GoT again was because his ad revenue absolutely crashed when he went off on his first rant.

    It’s just a money grab for him, so as far as I’m concerned, he can bite our collective asses and watch his profits tank for good.

  31. Siobhán Mooney
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    Grimnir:
    Larry is no Unsullied anymore. His buddy “filled him in” on all major deaths and plotpoints…
    And he wonders why he cannot enjoy it anymore. Pathetic.

    Exactly this. Getting his friend to spoil him was a mistake. I enjoy watching Game of Thrones partially because of knowing what’s already happened in the books – it’s intriguing to see how they’re adapted – but there’s a world of difference between GRRM’s skillful writing and a few bullet points from a friend. I have to think that the latter could only diminish one’s enjoyment of the show. I was hoping that Larry’s enthusiasm might pick up with the season four finale, but the level of spoilerdom mentioned in this thread makes that seem very unlikely.

    On the other hand, thanks to everyone else linking other reviewers. Some great videos there. :)

  32. Absalom Crane
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    I find it highly ironic how much Larry hates the character of Sansa Stark, namely because of all the characters on the show, she is the one he most resembles.

    His reviews of the past two episodes, and his entire general attitude towards this show since the Red Wedding mirrors the naivete Sansa showed in the first season of the show, the naivete that Larry so despises. He seems to think that because this is a fantasy show it is supposed to play out like some fairy tale or one of his Pokemon shows, with the “good guys” always winning and coming out on top, no matter how stupid they act, how badly they screw up. He does not seem able to handle the idea that sometimes the “bad guys” are actually smarter than the apparent heroes of the show, and thus will come out on top.

    And that is the thing with this show that Larry seems to not quite grasp. Larry, and his fairy tale/anime outlook on this show (and presumably life), still seems to see this world in a stark Black and White manner, totally ignoring the shades of grey that Martin purposefully used when writing this series. Just as in the real world where nobody is entirely good or entirely evil, the characters in GRRM’s world are all mixes of the two.

    Now Larry is sitting in a deep funk, all butthurt and upset over having his illusion of Good Will Always Triumph being utterly dashed; it is very much the same way Sansa reacted upon the death of her father.

    I have been watching his reviews from the second episode of season one until now; but with his irrational Sansa-like reaction to the reality-mirroring events of this show, I do not think I can continue watching his reviews of Game of Thrones, or any other shows. His simplistic, adolescent-girl outlook on how things should play out is rather grating, especially from a man in his early to mid 20s.

    At this point, I would say Sansa Stark has grown up and is more of a man than Larry has been acting the past few weeks

  33. Interior Bannisters
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 7:43 am | Permalink

    That Larry guy has always kinda scared me. He seems a bit…. unstable… and perpetually angry.

  34. Myrddin
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    The true theme of this whole series has finally been succinctly distilled: What it’s like to be in love and to get your end wet.

    :)

  35. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    CBG19 is my weekly guilty pleasure. I enjoy her balance between book-speak and show-speak.

    Sometimes I get just as much out of written (including the comments stated here) and video reviews of the show as I get out of the show itself. The amount of thought that goes into the observation and ramifications of the events and arcs in this show is truly extraordinary.

  36. Hmcykbux
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Why do people waste their energy on talking about this Larry guy?

    Let him rant, who cares..

  37. The Ghost of Nymeria, of House Shaggydog, Breaker of Summer & Lady of the Grey Wind
    Posted June 15, 2014 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Why the guilt, bro? :P

  38. Monstadon
    Posted June 21, 2014 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    Absalom Crane:
    I find it highly ironic how much Larry hates the character of Sansa Stark, namely because of all the characters on the show, she is the one he most resembles.

    His reviews of the past two episodes, and his entire general attitude towards this show since the Red Wedding mirrors the naivete Sansa showed in the first season of the show, the naivete that Larry so despises. He seems to think that because this is a fantasy show it is supposed to play out like some fairy tale or one of his Pokemon shows, with the “good guys” always winning and coming out on top, no matter how stupid they act, how badly they screw up. He does not seem able to handle the idea that sometimes the “bad guys” are actually smarter than the apparent heroes of the show, and thus will come out on top.

    And that is the thing with this show that Larry seems to not quite grasp. Larry, and his fairy tale/anime outlook on this show (and presumably life), still seems to see this world in a stark Black and White manner, totally ignoring the shades of grey that Martin purposefully used when writing this series. Just as in the real world where nobody is entirely good or entirely evil, the characters in GRRM’s world are all mixes of the two.

    Now Larry is sitting in a deep funk, all butthurt and upset over having his illusion of Good Will Always Triumph being utterly dashed; it is very much the same way Sansa reacted upon the death of her father.

    I have been watching his reviews from the second episode of season one until now; but with his irrational Sansa-like reaction to the reality-mirroring events of this show, I do not think I can continue watching his reviews of Game of Thrones, or any other shows. His simplistic, adolescent-girl outlook on how things should play out is rather grating, especially from a man in his early to mid 20s.

    At this point, I would say Sansa Stark has grown up and is more of a man than Larry has been acting the past few weeks

    *standing ovation*

    So true.

    I hope that whiney little fool is listening.

    I was even going to tune into his “goodbye” video this week just to laugh at his stupidity while smoking a bowl and laughing at the dumbass.

    But he couldn’t even be bothered to post that. And deleted his rant he posted after the episode ab how it ruined ‘his whole life’ bc he didn’t get the finale that so many ‘sullied’ chars expect.

    The guy is SULLIED.

    And unlike the other sullied… he has 20x the pompous absolution in terms of his ‘infallibility” in literary analysis (using some very fundamental, broad, concepts to try and analyze screenplays. The kid’s a charlatan)….

    …but on top of all that. The saddest thing of all…

    … is that this little whiney kid who has seen the plot points… HASN’T READ THE BOOKS!

    He has no earthly concept of the world their trying to adapt. Just the twists and turns that serve directional markers for the tale itself. He has no concept of the actual tale.

    Because this ‘literary genius’ can’t be bothered to, um… “read”.

    If you’re gonna spoil yourself to some things… and then obviously start looking up spoilers…

    .. be a real writer/analyst and pick up the damned book, kid.

    Or go to youtube and see what you can find in terms of, book moments… at the least.

    But seriously. Overall. If you’re going to pretend to not know things and then start flipping out and spitting out spoilers that YOU DIDN’T EVEN READ..

    to an audience that at least expected you to not ruin something for them just because YOU didn’t like it…

    …I don’t know why you guys put that half-wit’s name back up there. SO many more deserve to be up there.

    Heck, even What the Flick is more unsullied than Larry.

    Only one of them has read the books, (actually the rotten tomatoes guy, i’m starting to suspect, may have read them or looked more deeply into the lore extras this season)….

    But Cenk Uygur has all the charm and hilarity of Larry Williams season 1… times a THOUSAND. A former MSNBC anchor and internet media juggernaut spending his sundays watching it live and reviewing it.

    And Ben Mancowitz, Ana Kasparian… all “unsullied”, and also news media figures.

    And very intelligent, educated journalists, as well.

    Their breakdown of these plots and how they relate to our worldviews is second to -NONE-…

    .. and they react in TRUTH because they know nothing. THe one book reader on the panel reveals NOTHING… and won’t… and is so reserved and on board for the ride… he really just gets into the show and lets go of his ego.

    …. probably because he has a real job concerning writing and commentary on social issues. Not some Charlatan attempt to get soda money by pretending to be ‘unsullied’ when he isn’t.

    /rant.

    Fuck Williams.

    We tolerate the kid because he’s got a loud personality, and even when he’s stupid, its something interesting.

    But when its predictable it’s not interesting.

    What the flick rules, in my opinion at least. They’re far more “unsullied” than Larry even in season 2 IMO…

    … Just get rid of this kid’s link.

    Especially since he’s lied to you all and is screwing over honest fans who’re giving him a second chance.

    What an ingrate. Its one thing to be angry and naive. Another to be an ingrate and have a hissie fit.

    Sean Bean signed a fucking poster for you, kid. Boo hoo. Suck it up. Sell it on ebay if you need cash.

    But yes. To affirm the original point.

    This is so, SO true!

    He really IS the Sansa Stark of reviewers. Believing all of the stupid songs and fairy tales ab the world from anime and other stupid shit…

    and not the reality of how… good OR bad… stupid mistakes are stupid. And there’s no ‘good or evil’ in a land of intermingled autocratic bullshit.

    That’s why Littlefinger went from “believing the songs and bullshit” to the creature he is now.

    He lives in the real world.

    Not the Brienne of Tarth world. Where having a Lannister sword and squire and armor means you’re upholding your “vow”… even though Sansa Stark got away right under your nose at a wedding you were attending. Dumb bitch.

    Sansa, Brienne… fools. Larry Willams. Add him to the list.

    Honor and classic protagonists are lovely.

    But even fucking Shakespeare wasn’t that naive.

    Tell the kid to go read Macbeth a few times and grow up.

    Even Hamlet.

    Either way. Kid’s done. Good riddance.

    Do the ‘unsullied’ viewers a favor and stop linking them to a site full of some maniac’s ranting and throwing out spoilers.

    They deserve better, at least.

    Larry wouldn’t survive a day in King’s Landing.

    ..

    Maybe he should watch The Borgias to see the historical relevance and narratives concerning how even when bad guys win/lose…

    … its all jsut about power in an autocratic world.

    Robb Stark is a dictator. Was Karstark brought before a jury of peers?

    Please.

    Lady Sansa Williams. And now, his watch his ended.

    *lights the fire*

    Light the fire. We didn’t burn the body last time and the fucker came back as a wight.

    Burn the body!!

  39. Monstadon
    Posted June 21, 2014 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    Interior Bannisters:
    That Larry guy has always kinda scared me.He seems a bit…. unstable… and perpetually angry.

    Yeah. He takes the youtube and entertainment world too seriously. Got high off of anime people being his friends from far away. Spend his birthday with people on a google chat?! While in college?

    … if there’s ever a mass shooting following a Game of Thrones episode…

    … it’ll be from Larry Williams. Kid is unstable.


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