Season 3 commentary tracks revealed
By Winter Is Coming on in Merchandise.

Game of Thrones: The Complete Third SeasonThe details for the upcoming Game of Thrones: The Complete Third Season are starting to trickle out now. After a sneak peek from USA Today last week, we have the official release from HBO. In addition, one of our commenters, Andrew, has combed the British Board of Film Classification website and has dug up the listings for the Season 3 audio commentaries. Check those out below, while the official press release can be found after the break.

Episode 21: No commentaries
Episode 22: Natalie Dormer, Jack Gleeson, Vanessa Taylor, Daniel Minahan
Episode 23: David Benioff & DB Weiss
Gemma Jackson & Michele Clapton
Episode 24: Lena Headey, Diana Rigg, Alex Graves
Episode 25: Bryan Cogman, Nikolaj Coster Waldau, Gwendoline Christie
Episode 26: Isaac Hempstead Wright, Maisie Williams, Sophie Turner
Kit Harington, Rose Leslie, Alik Sakharov
Episode 27: George R. R. Martin & Michelle MacLaren
Episode 28: John Bradley, Hannah Murray, Michelle MacLaren
Episode 29: Richard Madden, Michelle Fairley, David Nutter
Tommy Dunne, Paul Herbert, Dave Forman, C.C. Smiff
Episode 30: Emilia Clarke, Iain Glen, Iwan Rheon

“Epic” – Variety

“A masterpiece in the making” – The Washington Post

GAME OF THRONES®: THE COMPLETE THIRD SEASON
Available February 18, 2014 on Blu-rayTMwith HBO SelectTM,
DVD & Digital Download

Acclaimed Series is Best-Selling TV on BD/DVD Title for Second Consecutive Year
Loaded with Exclusive Bonus Content Including Comprehensive Guides,
Illustrated Histories and an In-Depth Look at “The Rains of Castamere,”
One of the Most Talked About TV Episodes of 2013

 

New York, N.Y., November 14, 2013 – Featuring one of the most shocking episodes of all time, the third season of the HBO® series Game of Thrones captured headlines and captivated audiences with its gruesome battles and political intrigue. The season was “bigger than ever” (Entertainment Weekly) – and the most nominated series at the 2013 Emmy® Awards. Bring home a piece of TV history whenGame of Thrones: The Complete Third Season makes its highly anticipated debut on Blu-ray with HBO Select ($79.98), DVD ($59.99) and Digital Download on February 18, 2014. Game of Thrones is consistently the hottest BD/DVD title on the home entertainment charts, with seasons one and two currently ranked as the fastest-selling TV-on-BD releases of all time. The BD and DVD sets are packed with special features that further explore the characters, families and politics that populate the richly drawn world of Westeros.

 

In Season 3, the battling families of the Seven Kingdoms continue to fight for power as bonds are strained, loyalties are tested and cruel fates are met. The Lannisters barely hold on to power after a savage naval onslaught from Stannis Baratheon, while stirrings in the North threaten to alter the overall balance of power. Robb Stark, King in the North, faces major calamity in his efforts to build on his victories over the Lannisters, and beyond the Wall, Mance Rayder and his huge army of wildlings continue their inexorable march south. Across the Narrow Sea, Daenerys Targaryen – reunited with her three fast-maturing dragons – attempts to raise an army to sail with her from Essos, in hopes of eventually claiming the Iron Throne for herself.

 

Bonus Material

The Blu-ray with HBO Select and DVD bonus materials in Game of Thrones: The Complete Third Season contain multiple featurettes, extended and deleted scenes, and audio commentaries. Additional features on the BD release include interactive guides, illustrated histories, and an extensive feature on the creation of “The Rains of Castamere,” containing nearly two hours of never-before-seen material, as well as new looks at the infamous “Red Wedding.”

 

Blu-ray with HBO Select – includes all DVD features plus:

  • In-Episode Guide - In-feature resource that provides background information about on-screen characters, locations and relevant histories.
  • “The Rains of Castamere” Unveiled - Get an in-depth look at the creation of the most pivotal episode of Season 3 in this comprehensive exposé featuring cast and crew.
  • The Roots of Westeros - Explore the interconnected web of relationships, rivalries and conflicts between the noble houses of Westeros with this interactive guide.
  • Histories & Lore - Learn about the mythology of Westeros as told from the varying perspectives of the characters themselves.

DVD:

  • “A Gathering Storm” Featurette - Look back at the stormy events of Season 2 in this 14-minute recap with cast and crew.
  • “The Politics of Marriage” Featurette - The concept of matrimony in Westeros is all about making power plays and political alliances. Cast and crew examine this ancient institution and its place in Game of Thrones.
  • “Inside the Wildlings” Featurette - Go beyond the Wall with this introduction to the wildlings to gain a better understanding of their backstory.
  • New Characters of Season 3 - Meet the new faces in Season 3: Olenna Tyrell, Missandei, Mance Rayder, Tormund Giantsbane, Orell, Jojen & Meera Reed, Blackfish & Edmure Tully, Thoros of Myr and Beric Dondarrion.
  • Deleted/Extended Scenes - Five deleted and extended scenes.
  • Audio Commentaries - 12 commentaries with cast and crew including David Benioff, D.B. Weiss, George R.R. Martin, Lena Headey, Emilia Clarke, Michelle Fairley, Kit Harington, Richard Madden and more.

 

Based on George R.R. Martin’s best-selling book series A Song of Ice and Fire, the third season of Game of Thrones features returning cast members Emmy® and Golden Globe winner Peter Dinklage(Tyrion Lannister), Michelle Fairley (Catelyn Stark), Lena Headey (Cersei Lannister), Emilia Clarke (Daenerys Targaryen), Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jaime Lannister), Aidan Gillen (Petyr “Littlefinger” Baelish), Iain Glen (Jorah Mormont), Kit Harington (Jon Snow), Richard Madden (Robb Stark), Maisie Williams (Arya Stark), Isaac Hempstead Wright (Bran Stark), Sophie Turner (Sansa Stark), Jack Gleeson (Joffrey Baratheon), Alfie Allen (Theon Greyjoy), Rory McCann (Sandor “The Hound” Clegane), Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister), Jerome Flynn (Bronn), Conleth Hill (Varys), John Bradley(Samwell Tarly), Gwendoline Christie (Brienne of Tarth), James Cosmo (Commander Mormont), Stephen Dillane (Stannis Baratheon), Carice van Houten (Melisandre), Liam Cunningham (Davos Seaworth), Sibel Kekilli (Shae), Rose Leslie (Ygritte) and Natalie Dormer (Margaery Tyrell).

 

New cast members for Season 3 include: Ciarán Hinds (Mance Rayder), Diana Rigg (Lady Olenna Tyrell, Emmy®-nominated for her role), Mackenzie Crook (Orell), Clive Russell (Brynden “The Blackfish” Tully), Nathalie Emannuel (Missandei), Kerry Ingram (Shireen Baratheon), Paul Kaye (Thoros of Myr), Thomas Brodie-Sangster (Jojen Reed), Ellie Kendrick (Meera Reed), Richard Dormer (Beric Dondarrion), Kristofer Hivju (Tormund Giantsbane), Philip McGinley (Anguy), Tara Fitzgerald (Selyse Baratheon), Tobias Menzies (Edmure Tully), Anton Lesser (Qyburn), Ian McElhinney (Barristan Selmy), Michael McElhatton (Roose Bolton) and Noah Taylor (Locke). The seriesexecutive producers are David Benioff, D.B. Weiss, Carolyn Strauss, Frank Doelger, Bernadette Caulfield; co-executive producers, Guymon Casady, Vince Gerardis, George R.R. Martin, Vanessa Taylor; produced by Chris Newman, Greg Spence.


132 Comments

  1. Chris
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    Nodor

  2. Turncloak
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    Looking forward to the history and lore feature. Also looking forward to the audio commentary of episode 9

  3. Hodor
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    History and lore of House Bolton narrated by Roose Bolton please.

  4. Lollius Palicanus
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    More likely Ramsay Snow, apparently. Which would be equally awesome.

  5. Maria
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    I love commentary tracks that’s why I felt really disappointed when I found out there were no subtitles for the commentaries in seasons 1 & 2 DVDs. I suppose season 3 will be the same.

  6. Rygar
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Is Blu Ray really more High Def? I mean, in the grand scheme of things? Does it make show Sansa better than book Sansa? Will it make Hinds more energized and Conan Stevens more like The Mountain?

  7. Turncloak
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    No but I hear it makes trolls look 100% accurate!

  8. Torby
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Why is Roose Bolton listed under “New cast”?

  9. Rygar
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    How dare you. And you could have been more witty. That was too easy.

  10. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    So there are 4-5 deleted scenes included? We know of one with Tywin-Pycelle…I wonder what the others could be? Non-book or book-related scenes?

    I wonder if the histories will contain original thoughts by the actors themselves or are they simply going to read from the wiki?

  11. direhound
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    You mean Ian Whyte?

  12. loki
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    You didn’t include this information in the previous post just so you could release the next “game of owns” podcast, right?

  13. Winter Is Coming
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    loki:
    You didn’t include this in the previous post just so you could release the next “game of owns” podcast, right?

    Huh?

  14. Rygar
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    direhound,

    You obviously haven’t been following me on Twitter. ;)

  15. Jentario
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Loki, have you begun trolling again?

  16. Jentario
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Why would he do that, Rygar? And have you completely let go of penis comments? I think they miss you.

  17. Omar Brown
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Oh boy, episode 9 is gonna bring all the feels!
    Great to see some commentary newbies, and I wonder if the Stark kids will have a musical start again this season?

  18. Jentario
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Omar Brown,

    They will. I think a couple of them already teased it. The only question is: how will they sing it this time?

  19. Rygar
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Jentario,

    Speaking of penises, I am a wee bit sad to not see Alfie commenting on his episodes. Would like more insight on what it was like to film his scenes with Iwan

  20. Giantsbabe
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    An Isaac, Masie, Sophie, Kit and Rose combo?? Can’t wait! XD

  21. PJK
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Giantsbabe,

    I think that each line of names is a separate commentary track (that way we get to 12 commentary tracks), so I guess its the kids on one track and Kit, Rose and Alik on the other.

  22. Ludo
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Episode 25: Bryan Cogman, Nikolaj Coster Waldau, Gwendoline Christie

    Brilliant.

  23. Chuck88
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Interested to see the deleted scenes. Many sources seem to suggest some scenes from the Eyrie weren’t included this season but there’s always the possibility they could be held back until season 4. Other than that it’s anyone’s guess.

  24. Patchy Face
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Now if we could please get an official S4 date from HBO so we can see that clock ticking down.

  25. GG
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Good to see that episodes 6 & 7 got some good commentary, seeing as they’re my least favorite GoT eps by far. Gives me a reason to watch them again.

  26. Tar Kidho
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    How big is the chance that one of the deleted scenes is in fact the battle at the Fist? ;-)

  27. Rygar
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Jentario,

    Speaking of penises, I am a wee bit sad to not see Alfie commenting on his episodes.Would like more insight on what it was like to film his scenes with Iwan

    And by wee I mean wee wee. Like a penis. There. Satisfied? ;)

  28. Rygar
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 12:15 pm | Permalink
  29. azad injejikian
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    I love the Histories and Lore features. Do we know who writes the feature’s scripts? D&D or Cogman…?

  30. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho:
    How big is the chance that one of the deleted scenes is in fact the battle at the Fist? ;-)

    Hah! Lol! Or maybe a deleted scene of Sam/Gilly seeing/meeting CH?

  31. Valyrian Plastic
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    Like the temperatures there, probably less than zero!

  32. Sean C.
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Interesting to see how many new actors are doing commentaries this year, including people like Iain Glen, Jack Gleeson, and John Bradley, who skipped the first two seasons. I’m impressed they got Diana Rigg. Still no Charles Dance, though.

    Who on Earth decided that “The Climb” needed two commentaries? And if they were willing to double up like that, why not put the Turner/Williams/Hempstead-Wright track on episode 2, where their characters actually do stuff? Horrible choice for all three.

    I’m very surprised they don’t have Emilia doing episode 4, or even episode 8. Not much really happens with her character in episode 10.

    Chuck88:
    Interested to see the deleted scenes. Many sources seem to suggest some scenes from the Eyrie weren’t included this season but there’s always the possibility they could be held back until season 4. Other than that it’s anyone’s guess.

    The odds that they would “hold back” scenes like that are exceptionally low.

    The deleted Eyrie stuff may or may not be on the DVD, depending on what it was — if the deleted material contains stuff that will be overwritten by subsequent plans, generally the show doesn’t include it (for instance, the Dontos material that was cut from season 2 never saw the light of day).

    I believe there’s a set photo somewhere of a Tyrion/Cersei/Sansa/Shae meeting that looked to be from episode 3, so that might be one of the cut scenes.

  33. The Dragon Demands
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Torby:
    Why is Roose Bolton listed under “New cast”?

    Screw it, why is Barristan Selmy listed under “new cast”?!

  34. FrYo
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    So I guess that this year the best commentary track is not going to be the kids’, Michelle Fairley watching the Red Wedding for the first time is going to be brilliant… and heartbreaking.

  35. Al Swearengen
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    I would love to watch/listen to this during the Christmas holidays…..oh wait the Blu Ray is released in February smh.

  36. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Who are the people in the second Rains of Castamere commentary?

    I’m glad we have some new commenter for S3. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen an interview with Hannah Murray before and I just watched her in her Skins seasons for the first time. That might actually be the one I look forward to the most.

  37. We do not Hodor
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger: Who are the people in the second Rains of Castamere commentary?I’m glad we have some new commenter for S3. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen an interview with Hannah Murray before and I just watched her in her Skins seasons for the first time. That might actually be the one I look forward to the most.

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    Paul Herbert – Stunt Superviser
    Dave Forman – Assistant Stunt Coordinator
    CC Smiff – Sword Master

  38. Carcinogen
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    The reason Barriston and Roose are listed as ‘new cast’ is because their roles in seasons 1 and 2, perspectively, were as ‘Guest Stars’, whereas now they have been made into full cast. It’s a union thing.

  39. cosca
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    I had a dream that Charles Dance did a commentary for every episode. It was a good dream.

  40. Talisa's ghost
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Carcinogen, the actors playing Roose and Selmy are STILL listed as guests stars, so no main cast for them just yet. Surprised Gwendoline Christie was not included in the credits yet though.

    What did surprise me was to see guests stars such as Hannah Murray (her story line was pretty unimportant and uninteresting so far IMO) and Iwan Rheon comment on episodes when starring actors like Stephen Dillane, Conleth Hill, Sibel Kekilli, Jerome Flynn, Rory McCann and so on haven’t commented on anything yet. Maybe they just didn’t want to do it. Too bad. It would have been nice to hear them talk about their craft or TV show production in general since they’ve all been doing this for a long time.

    And I agree with whoever said it doesn’t make sense to have the younger cast (I won’t call them kids since they don’t really look like children anymore) comment on an episode they haven’t worked much. I understand they are the Stark “kids” and they like to reunite them from time to time, but they never work together. Shouldn’t they comment on episodes with actors they actually work with, like all the other actors do? I would have expected Sophie to comment on her wedding ep and Maisie on 3×10, since that’s when was Arya’s first kill took place. The only commentaries that make sense to me are the ones for 3×05 and 3×09.

    I’m very intrigued about the deleted scenes. I wonder if they’ll cause as much controversy as the ones from S2.

  41. Uther Greenshirt
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    oh man! 24, 25 and 30! Cant wait to hear what glen and rigg have to say that will be awesome!

  42. GeekFurious
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    I guess I’ll have to do my own for 3.01…

  43. CarlosDanger
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Was Pete Dinklage too busy being an X-Men villain to do commentary this year?

  44. outdoorcats
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    DIANA RIGG! Wow. That’s going to be amazing.

    Plus, Cogman, Coster-Waldau and Christie…should be an awesome listen!

  45. Andrew
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    I would venture a guess that this means Gwendoline Christie, Iwan Rheon, and Hannah Murray will be promoted from guest stars to main cast next year. With few exceptions, doing an audio commentary or narrating one of the history/lore animations has been a fairly reliable indicator of a series regular contract. It happened with Charles Dance, Rose Leslie, and James Cosmo in previous seasons.

    But matters of credit and billing aside, I’m excited to hear from all the new participants, especially Dormer & Gleeson.

  46. Sean C.
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Talisa’s ghost:
    And I agree with whoever said it doesn’t make sense to have the younger cast (I won’t call them kids since they don’t really look like children anymore) comment on an episode they haven’t worked much. I understand they are the Stark “kids” and they like to reunite them from time to time, but they never work together. Shouldn’t they comment on episodes with actors they actually work with, like all the other actors do? I would have expected Sophie to comment on her wedding ep and Maisie on 3×10, since that’s when was Arya’s first kill took place. The only commentaries that make sense to me are the ones for 3×05 and 3×09.

    Maisie and Isaac are still too young to watch the full episodes (the ones with especially sexual or violent content), as they all were when the show started; hence, it made sense to put them all on one track, rather than in separate tracks where they’d have to abruptly leave in certain parts. By this point, it’s become a tradition.

    The dumb part is that episode 3.02 is far superior episode to have them comment on. It’s Sophie’s second-biggest episode of the season, and Maisie and Isaac’s first appearances, in all three cases introducing major new characters for them to interact with.

  47. Mr. Lemoncloak
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    oh my god, i cant wait for the commentaries, especially for e09

  48. B Cogman
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    azad injejikian,

    Neither. They’ve been written (since the Season 2 blu ray) by D&D’s assistant Dave Hill.

    B

  49. Greenjones
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman,

    While you’re here, Bryan, could you confirm the title “Castle Black” for ep. nine of season 4?

  50. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman,
    Good to “read” you! Coming up for air?

  51. Greenjones
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman,

    And while I’m asking questions I don’t expect you to answer given your general business, could you say which episodes of the coming season will be yours? And perhaps whether George’s ep. 2 will be limited to one location?

    These questions would not be spoilers (I don’t think) but would be enough of a tidbit to hold some of the more ravenous of us over for a couple of days!

  52. B Cogman
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    409′s title is NOT “Castle Black”.

    B

  53. Patchy Face
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Well, at least you got a negative answer…now we can guess what the title WILL be!

  54. Greenjones
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman,

    You heard it here first folks! (You see Wikipedia and Game of Thrones wiki had taken that tweet with a photo of Neil Marshall on set very literally)

  55. Greenjones
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman,

    Can you confirm that Michael McElhatton will be returning as Roose Bolton? I have no reason to doubt that he would be I’d just like complete certainty. And are he, Gwendoline, Iwan and some others being put into the main cast?

  56. Greenjones
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Patchy Face,

    Though I wouldn’t have minded “Castle Black”, I’m going right back to crowing about the merits of the title “the Last of the Giants”.

  57. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    Patchy Face,

    “All Along the Watchtower”….perhaps?

    “There must be some way out of here,” said the joker to the thief.
    “There’s too much confusion, I can’t get no relief.
    Businessmen, they drink my wine, plowmen dig my earth,
    None of them along the line know what any of it is worth.”

    “No reason to get excited,” the thief, he kindly spoke,
    “There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke.
    But you and I, we’ve been through that, and this is not our fate,
    So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late.”

    All along the watchtower, princes kept the view
    While all the women came and went, barefoot servants, too.
    Outside in the cold distance a wildcat did growl,
    Two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl.

    – BD, as sung by JH

    (thought the lyrics were appropriate as is)

  58. Felt Pelt
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Yay for the Cogman. Is Joseph Gatt Deep Throat? If so, stay on the phone for five seconds without hanging up.

    Will we get Nimble Dick? This season or any other? I say this as someone who really liked that sequence, and a lot of Brienne’s wandering as a whole.

  59. dogs
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    That’s so Battlestar Galactica dude.

  60. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 18, 2013 at 11:38 pm | Permalink

    dogs:
    Hodor’s Bastard,
    That’s so Battlestar Galactica dude.

    Hah! Damn, you’re good. But it fits, eh?

  61. House de Laguna
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    Was there deleted scenes in season one? Like accessible through the Blu-ray?

  62. Greenjones
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    https://twitter.com/SamFlemingo

    Here’s someone who was filming today with Kristian Nairn and, when you scroll down some, filmed in August as well. I think just an extra, but Kristian retweeted so maybe more? I don’t know. Something to hold us over until Bryan responds. If he does.

  63. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    B Cogman,

    So The Shield That Guards the Realms of Men, then?

  64. Jentario
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 1:07 am | Permalink

    B Cogman will not answer these questions, guys. Give up already! lol

  65. Greenjones
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 1:18 am | Permalink

    Jentario,

    He won’t confirm the title, but I’m glad he disconfirmed the one. I do hope he clarifies that McElhatton will return though. Even though there is no more Roose for the rest of aSoS, they do like to invent things and I’m one of those who would love to see him go around in King’s Landing.

  66. Nick_Scryer
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 3:29 am | Permalink
  67. Jentario
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 3:54 am | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer,

    It’s pretty obvious we’ll see Roose this season anyway. Fat Walda was cast, so it’s a no-brainer. Whether he’ll go to King’s Landing or not is a whole nother question, though. My guess is that he will, since Fwalda is in episode 2 (the wedding episode) and a lot of us suspect this episode to be focused mostly (if not entirely) on King’s Landing.

  68. vlad
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 4:56 am | Permalink

    I want to know the list for Histories & Lore. I don’t really care about the comments on the episodes :) not a year after I saw them the first time.

  69. Adam Whitehead
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 5:20 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Yes, it is, no it won’t, but it will make the whole show look a hell of a lot better. I can’t even think of watching the show in standard-def any more, it does the art design, costumes, props and special effects teams a huge injustice.

  70. Patchy Face
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Love “All Along the Watchtower” – one of my favorites of all time (both BD & JH versions). Maybe what got me interested in medieval history and, from there, fantasy.

  71. Greenjones
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer,

    Ah, you see I was more or less certain Michael would return given his wife’s casting and his being Irish and thus closer to where the production was shot. I thought however that if I brought him I would coax Bryan into saying something like, “Yeah, he’s back and he has a lot of good scenes this season.” I wanted to settle the question of his being added to the main cast and thought to take what I thought was a sly route.

    It didn’t get answered though so, no, not very sly on my part really.

  72. Al Swearengen
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    I had a dream HBO decided to release the season 3 Blu ray for Christmas :-(

  73. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Al Swearengen:
    I had a dream HBO decided to release the season 3 Blu ray for Christmas :-(

    Still scratching my head on that one as well. I understand “generating buzz” shortly before the S4 season begins but what marketer wouldn’t take advantage of the X-mas season?

  74. Boojam
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Am I missing something, no Team Stannis people at all?
    Too bad, because Liam Cunningham is just hands down the best raconteur, I love to listen to him.
    Nobody repenting Team Brother Hood with Banners either..
    Dang it I thought by season three we would get Rory McCann.

    Commentary seems thinner than for season 2.
    Why does HBO always leave one disk without a commentary?
    Not sure this happens on all their DVD sets, does it?

  75. KG
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    I feel sorry for Alex Graves. Not even a chance to get a word in with those two lol

  76. DH87
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: I understand “generating buzz” shortly before the S4 season begins but what marketer wouldn’t take advantage of the X-mas season?

    I suspect HBO has seen how much income is generated by DVD sales (which is a one-time purchase) and how much is generated by new subscribers and made an informed decision. After all, the channel lives and dies on subscriptions (not that the auxiliary income isn’t welcome), and in two months a sub generates more income than any DVD purchase.

  77. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    DH87: I suspect HBO has seen how much income is generated by DVD sales (which is a one-time purchase) and how much is generated by new subscribers and made an informed decision. After all, the channel lives and dies on subscriptions (not that the auxiliary income isn’t welcome), and in two months a sub generates more income than any DVD purchase.

    Yeah, I know. We’ve been through this topic several times before. Still, it has me wondering why the delay for this product? It’s 6 months after the end of the season and it’s X-mas, when everyone is already testing the limits of their credit cards! I’m sure HBO is going to be advertising the new GoT season on all major channels in the US during primetime, so why a Feb release of the DVD/Blueray/Ultraviolet? Is it extra/bonus material related or is it production related (like the production of the ceramic dragon for the deluxe edition)? Would they even attempt to do a 3-D version?

    Also, given the HBO-Go, various streaming-only options, the non-US market options and Netflicks/Amazon/ITunes single episode possibilities that are being bandied about, the “traditional” business model for HBO might be in flux. I bet by this time next year (and even more stories of online piracy) we will have several new models to consider for accessing HBO content.

  78. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    Boojam,

    Liam and Carice were my favorite commentators on the s2 Blu-Ray. Shame we won’t get them again.

  79. DH87
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: I bet by this time next year (and even more stories of online piracy) we will have several new models to consider for accessing HBO content.

    The HBO bigwigs were quoted relatively recently on DeadlineHollywood as not being concerned about piracy, and everyone knows the DVD market continues to shrink across the board. I’m not sure who’s going to embrace your idea, short of a wholesale clear-out of the HBO executive suite, but I suppose anything’s possible.

    Edit to add: Cherrypicking the HBO show list is in many ways subscription-model suicide since no one I know watches any of the premium channels for more than one or two shows per season. If you want to see the real problem with the Big Three, check out Chris Albrecht’s comments:

    http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/starz-chris-albrecht-original-programming/#comments

  80. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 19, 2013 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    DH87,
    Interesting interview. I’m one of those schmucks who subscribe to HBO annually but I only tune into HBO for 10 episodes of GoT per year (and re-watch episodes On Demand until the blurays come out). Are you saying that HBO is successful because of my complacency? As I break down my cable bill, HBO consists of about $12/month of my bill….or $144 annually. If I cherry-picked the GoT episodes On-Demand at $4-5/episode, then HBO would only get $40-50/year rather than $144. Am I the average HBO customer (following 1-2 shows annually) or not? Is an annual subscription the only way to see these shows in realtime, without delay?

    I just see my tolerance (complacency) of this situation to be an issue for many GoT fans. Are the cherry-pickers a huge subset of subscribers or are they primarily considered a valuable addition to the subscribers? I, for one, am looking for another model for viewing premium content as broadband (and flexibility) has become the norm.

  81. DH87
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: Are you saying that HBO is successful because of my complacency?

    Yes, exactly.

    But the problem Albrecht addressed is the big one: the one-quadrant appeal of premium TV channels (older/younger men; older/younger women). Older men have more influence over the household discretionary income and less interest in computer-based content delivery systems than do younger demos. Because older men are disproportionate subscribers, premium channels have programmed to their interests. That demo is shrinking demographically as baby boomers retire (and look more carefully at their spending) and all the population growth is in younger folks at lower income levels. Premium channel costs continue to increase, so it makes sense to try to program to at least one other quadrant— the older woman. This is the demo of the Outlander series, as showrunner Ron Moore acknowledges.

    What do older men like? Sports (too old to play, so they watch—who broadcasts all the live boxing events?); graphic sex (for the same reason Viagra sales are huge); and violence of an intensity found in action films (which older guys have grown up with). Voila: Game of Thrones, Spartacus, Black Sails, etc.

  82. DH87
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    My last comment is awaiting moderation from some reason, Hodor’s Bastard, but the point of that post was that, yes, your complacency is lining HBO’s pockets and HBO would like that to continue.

    Older men, the dominant demo of subscribers, like sex, violence, and sports. Voila—-live boxing, Game of Thrones, Spartacus, Black Sails, etc.

  83. Caroline
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 4:49 am | Permalink

    Shame that Rory still isn’t doing any commentary…I wonder why that is.

  84. Jentario
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 6:21 am | Permalink

    Caroline,

    Probably because they want to focus on the main cast, and sadly he gets the shaft. Maybe we’ll get Maisie and Rory in a commentary track for season 4.

  85. Eleanor
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    Maisie and Sophie are the same age, people! And neither are too young to watch the episodes.

  86. Sean C.
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Eleanor:
    Maisie and Sophie are the same age, people! And neither are too young to watch the episodes.

    No, Maisie is a year younger. February 1996 versus April 1997.

  87. Rygar
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    You are missing some amazing series.

  88. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Hodor’s Bastard,
    You are missing some amazing series.

    Yeah…I know. After SatC, SFU and Sopranos, all I have seen on HBO is GoT (although when you and others bring up BE, Girls, and TB I am getting more interested, but I haven’t programmed the DVR yet). After Breaking Bad, most everything is saccharine anyway. It’s all a matter of time, man. Wish I had more of it….and I kindle-read and lurk here & Westeros in my spare minutes.

  89. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Shows I watch on HBO:

    Game Of Thrones
    Boardwalk Empire
    Eastbound and Down
    True Blood(regretfully)
    Girls(regretfully)
    Real Sports
    Real Time w/Bill Maher(occasionally)
    24/7
    Boxing

    I also plan on watching the new Woody Harrelson/Mathew McConaughey series ‘True Detective’. My subscription has also allowed me to watch ‘The Wire’ and ‘Deadwood’ on demand for the first time. All in all, I’m satisfied.

  90. Rygar
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Sasha Baron Cohen on the finale of Eastbound…..amazing.

  91. DH87
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    If anyone needed more proof that Starz is moving away from the older man demo—it just bought a ballet drama:

    http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/starz-ballet-drama-eyes-green-light-with-castsings-choreographer-hire/#more-639667

  92. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    DH87,

    I have Starz, but I have never watched a single episode of any of their series. This is mostly because I usually don’t even start watching a show unless it gets really good reviews, and none of the Starz series have really ever received universal acclaim, with the exception of ‘Boss’, but I can’t stand Kelsey Grammer. I’m hoping ‘Black Sails’ will be well received, but I have my doubts.

  93. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    DH87:
    If anyone needed more proof that Starz is moving away from the older man demo—it just bought a ballet drama:

    If it’s anything like the visceral meltdown and reality-grasping hemorrhage of Nina in “Black Swan”, then I’m in!

  94. DH87
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: This is mostly because I usually don’t even start watching a show unless it gets really good reviews, and none of the Starz series have really ever received universal acclaim, with the exception of ‘Boss’

    Despite a shaky start, Spartacus ended up being reasonably well reviewed, especially by our GOT buddy, Mo Ryan, and the creator has already been re-upped for a new Starz series for 2014/15.

  95. WildSeed
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I’m not a fan of Kelsey Grammer, either, but I do watch and enjoy the show called
    ” DaVinci’s Demons”. Initially,I had the Starz network added to my Comcast cable
    package as a promo bundle, yet kept it after the deal expired. The ” White Queen”,
    ” Dancing on the Edge” and soon to be ” Outlander ” ( sci-fi ), are worth a watch.
    I noted that several big screen movies got shown , where they did not reach HBO or
    other networks. It’s all a racket, of sorts, ending years of once rotating post released
    films though all the cable premium channels. Now customers need to purchase most
    separately, in order to watch a desired film, post release ( without going through the
    ” pay for view ” or special order option.

    The network is often listed as ” Starz / Encore “.

  96. WildSeed
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    DH87,

    Sasha Radetsky… wow !

  97. WildSeed
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Nice ! Although I prefer the Jimi Hendrix version… both are awesome ! I really enjoyed the nod to BD & H, when the song
    was featured in ” The Watchmen “.

  98. WildSeed
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak:
    Looking forward to the history and lore feature. Also looking forward to the audio commentary of episode 9

    Me too !

  99. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed:
    ” The Watchmen “

    So cool.

  100. Rygar
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    1 hundred and FIRST

  101. Patchy Face
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Ditto – the series on Starz do not even come close to touching the quality of GoT.

  102. Patchy Face
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Also – really looking forward to the True Crime series – that one looks awesome. It’s not TV – it’s HBO

  103. DH87
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    With the exception of GOT, HBO has as many problems with programming as Starz does. One-quadrant programming (older/younger men; older/younger women) no longer is viable as older men, the mainstay of premium channels, retire and cut their budgets at the same time the younger demographic is poorer and already struggling just with basic cable prices. BE is going nowhere; Luck was cancelled; TB is finished; NewsRoom is a non-player, Girls is a joke.

    Say what you will about Starz, it didn’t buy two of the creakiest bio specials ever—”Mildred Pierce” and “Liberace”—two properties unknown to anyone under age 60.

  104. Rygar
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    DH87,

    Incorrect. Nothing factual. Just saying.

  105. DH87
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed: Sasha Radetsky… wow !

    Yes, a very “niche-y” move. Hope it works out for Starz. I’ll be watching. (I saw Maya Plisetskaya dance The Dying Swan not once but three times one night.)

  106. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    DH87:
    With the exception of GOT, HBO has as many problems with programming as Starz does.

    I could be argumentative and state that HBO/Starz will need to adapt their subscription model soon….but I won’t.

    Instead I’ll forge on. There is a reason behind my madness….GoT is breaking new ground in terms of quality, special effects and fantasy adaptation/storytelling…stuff that only a few years back was relegated to the big screen. And it has proven to appeal to a wide audience. So, given that, why are they ignoring the big screen?

    A few friends and I are thinking about approaching a local “digital-ready” movie theater and see if they are able to show HBO’s GoT on Sundays at 9pm ET. Right now, given “licensing and public display” legal issues, the answer is probably “No”…BUT why the hell not? I would love to go with some friends and enjoy GoT on the really big screen with a bunch of crazy fans on Sunday evenings. We would pay for the privilege (hopefully less than a movie ticket) and HBO would get a cut but how much great fun would that be!

    This “one-off” content access model could be quite popular with shows like GoT and I believe it would supplement the subscription base (who I assume watch movies too), not detract from it. All the movie theater would need is a digital projector connected to broadband (with an HBO subscription)!

    Heck, with a little more sophistication, that same “cherry-picking” model could be applied to personal broadband connections, like a real-time on-demand model.

    Call me crazy but why not? Why is an HBO international “event” like GoT relegated to the small screen and subscriptions? Broadband is a launching point for new versatile ideas; the 1980s all-or-nothing in-home subscription model needs to adapt.

  107. DH87
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    That is an interesting idea, and the big-screen economics are a whole separate discussion. Movie attendance is sinking due to high ticket prices, high concession prices, poor audience behavior, and the huge improvements in home theatre options. The creme de la creme movie customers, males 18-24, who used to go to a movie they liked four times (compared to once for all other customers) are no longer so loyal as they were ten years ago (proliferation of tech options, low salary growth in entry-level positions, etc.). A film’s P&L has shifted to foreign markets (who prefer special effects to strong scripts for non-English-speaking audiences).

    I think the problem may be the pressure by the satellite content providers, Netflix, etc., to get first-run films into their markets faster and faster, pressing movie theatres’ exclusivity—and thus profitability—ever more. Theatres want those Thursday through Sundays evening shows to pull their weight with big-screen fare, not simulcasting of HBO shows (although there is some precedent with pay-for-view boxing/ wrestling).

    But give it a shot and report back to us. I, for one, would be very interest to hear what you learn.

  108. sunspear
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    DH87,

    I’m sorry, what?

    Starz problem is they can’t make a show that gets a reasonable number of viewers for two seasons. The Newsroom, Boardwalk empire, and Girls both get more viewers than anything Starz has on their line-up. And in addition to that, they’ve got Veep, hello ladies, and Family tree waiting.

    Sure, True Blood is ending, but it ran seven years and is going to end mostly on it’s own terms. And it will likely be replaced by something better.

    I don’t what you were trying with that crack at Behind the Candelabra, considering it won all the Emmy’s a few months ago.

    And as far as development slates go, True Detective. Nuff said.

  109. Patchy Face
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    This

  110. DH87
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    Sorry if I stepped on any toes with an attempt at humor (I’m ancient, myself). Starz has long been the poor relation among the three premium channels, that’s why it spirited away the executive who brought along the Sopranos, Sex in the City, etc. at HBO, Chris Albrecht, to fix things. He’s making a lot of good moves with many fewer resources. It’s too tedious to get into the business models of the three premium channels here—they aren’t all the same, and ratings don’t always translate directly into profitability. (I’ve cited the comparison of TB, which costs $4.2 million per episode to GOT, which costs $6 million per ep, to deliver the same 5.1 million Nielsen ratings ad nauseam and we’ve hashed over the auxiliary income sources too many times already.) We don’t have enough information on subscriber base or anything else to make the discussion worth the time, so I’ll bow out.

  111. Rygar
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    Not to mention getting to see Sasha Baron Cohen’s schlong in the Eastbound And Down Series Finale.

    That was for you Jentario!

  112. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted November 20, 2013 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

    DH87,

    You’re looking at it as a business while most are looking at the quality. Starz has not had a show come close to GOT or Boardwalk Empire in quality, not to mention past shows like The Sopranos,The Wire,Deadwood,Rome,Carnivale,Six Feet Under,Curb Your Enthusiasm. The list is almost as long as Sacha Baron Cohen’s fake schlong. Not to say Starz won’t eventually break through and find that show, but I am still waiting. Just because they hired a former executive at HBO does not guarantee that same type of success. It’s sort of like going from managing the New York Yankees of the late 90′s to managing the Minnesota Twins.

  113. DH87
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: Just because they hired a former executive at HBO does not guarantee that same type of success. I

    Consider the irony of your statement. Albrecht is not some “former executive”—he was both president and chief executive of HBO, and he is credited with signing/shepherding all the shows you listed.

    Under his leadership, HBO became the leader in innovative entertainment and sports programming with critically acclaimed series like Sex and the City, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Deadwood, Band of Brothers, The Wire and Entourage, among many others (Wikipedia). (Those “many others” included Curb Your Enthusiasm, Rome and Carnivale.)

    The current HBO regime has chosen a different strategy (different from relying on taste and foresight, that is), building relationships with a handful of filmmakers, writers, and mostly aging actors, for good or ill.

    I stand by my statement that content quality is not the big problem facing HBO, Starz, or Showtime—it is cost of programming/competition from non-TV content providers. No one or three “top” shows is going to solve those challenges. (And, I’m sorry, another Louisiana show, this time a procedural, filmed on The Lot in LA to save money—with or without a forty-something Matthew McConaughey— is not exciting programming to me.)

    These discussions are very much hot-stove-league things during the off season, but there is data out there to support most of the conclusions I’ve come to, so take it or leave it.

  114. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    DH87,

    Like I said, most won’t respect Starz until they finally produce a show that matches the quality of GOT and BE. Could that happen soon? Yes, but just because a guy had success once doesn’t guarantee it will happen again. Need I even mention the name of Alan Ball? Not to mention there is far more competition nowadays. In the late 90′s/early 2000′s HBO was pretty much the only network that could air a show like ‘The Sopranos’. Now he is competing with HBO,FX,AMC, and Showtime.

  115. DH87
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    DH87,

    Like I said, most won’t respect Starz until they finally produce a show that matches the quality of GOT and BE.Could that happen soon? Yes, but just because a guy had success once doesn’t guarantee it will happen again. Need I even mention the name of Alan Ball? Not to mention there is far more competition nowadays. In the late 90′s/early 2000′s HBO was pretty much the only network that could air a show like ‘The Sopranos’. Now he is competing with HBO,FX,AMC, and Showtime.

    Now that is something I can agree with you on—the competition from AMC, in particular, has to be alarming. We’ve all said this before—-the tent pole line up of Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Hell on Wheels and the very popular guilty pleasure The Walking Dead could be a respectable match for just about everything on the premium channels and doesn’t cost the cable subscriber one red cent. Vince Gilligan and Matthew Weiner are every bit as good as Terence Winter and better than Alan Ball at this point in time and VG has already signed up his new show at AMC. I suspect Weiner will do the same, since the deal he has there is unmatched even on premium.

    That said, I think Spartacus stands up to just about anything on premium elsewhere and sophisticated series like Dancing on the Edge with this year’s Oscar frontrunner has been a stylish addition to the Starz line up. And Outlander is going to be at least two-quadrants big.

  116. sunspear
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 7:09 am | Permalink

    DH87,

    The reason why people don’t take Albrecht seriously is because he’s also the guy who passed on Mad Men when it was pitched to HBO.

    And to go with your other points, competition from places AMC and Netflix is majorly exaggerated. Putting aside the fact that people don’t take AMC seriously since they haven’t produced a show that gained major critical support since 2008, AMC’s cost is that of a basic cable package. HBO is only $20 more a month tacked onto that, so it doesn’t make that big of a difference. And Netflix only has a handful of shows they actually own, 90% of their business model is buying the streaming rights to what other channels in the current model make.

  117. Greenjones
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    https://twitter.com/search?q=game%20of%20thrones%20filming&src=typd

    KFTV.com ‏@KFTV 3h
    @GameOfThrones series 4 finishes filming this week http://bit.ly/17sOEcz #NorthernIreland #croatia via @TheKnowledgeUK

    Maya ‏@janetweis 12h
    They’re filming game of thrones at Dunluce Castle, I was living 20 minutes from there last year! Back in France now, too bad…

  118. Greenjones
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 8:41 am | Permalink
  119. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    Greenjones,
    So have Bran and Co decided to go to Hardhome instead?

  120. Jordan
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Hodor?

    I wonder if this means we will get the Liddell this season (guy who helped Bran and co)

  121. Jentario
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    My first thought as well, but obviously not. Where is the fake snow, though? There should be snow beyond the Wall… Maybe this is a dream sequence?

  122. Jentario
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Jordan,

    You do understand that makes absolutely no sense considering they are already beyond the Wall, don’t you?

  123. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,
    Maybe they are just filming inside and Hodor/Nairn decided to take a stroll between takes? Seems like a cool location (inside and outside) though.

  124. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Jentario:
    Jordan,
    You do understand that makes absolutely no sense considering they are already beyond the Wall, don’t you?

    I think Jordan has point though. Like Orell/eagle, in the books he was killed north of the wall, and in the show he was killed south of the wall. Anything goes in GoT, especially regarding minor plot points. Who’s to argue that Bran and Co don’t run into a lost lord and his manse north of the wall before they reached the cave? Heck, maybe this is the “cave” of BR! (hopefully not)

  125. DH87
    Posted November 22, 2013 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    sunspear: HBO is only $20 more a month tacked onto that, so it doesn’t make that big of a difference.

    For many families, $240 annually is a significant sum—the number-one reason cable packages are dropped is cost.

  126. DH87
    Posted November 22, 2013 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    sunspear: True Blood is ending, but it ran seven years and is going to end mostly on it’s own terms.

    The TB showrunner engineered a season-ending “cliffhanger” that raised such a hue and cry that he had to reveal the outcome within a week, only to beg HBO publicly to let him know if the show was going to be renewed or not. (It was cancelled.) If that’s what you mean by ending “mostly on its own terms,” well, okay, then.

  127. Greenjones
    Posted November 22, 2013 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Is any of the Nightfort north of the Wall? Cause this looks like an abandoned castle. Could be Bran and co. coming out the other side. They’ve digitally replaced a sea background before (like the cliff where they shot Drogo’s death).

  128. Kris
    Posted November 23, 2013 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    No Peter??

  129. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted November 23, 2013 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones:
    Hodor’s Bastard,
    Is any of the Nightfort north of the Wall? Cause this looks like an abandoned castle. Could be Bran and co. coming out the other side. They’ve digitally replaced a sea background before (like the cliff where they shot Drogo’s death).

    I already miss the Black Gate and the watchful weirwood! I don’t recall any major manse north of the wall (or any northern extension of any of the 19 NW castles)…but all bets are off with Bran’s story from here on out. All I hope is that at some point we have a motley crew of Bran, Hodor, the Reeds, Leaf and CH adventuring and travelling north. All these fun bunches roaming around Westeros…Arya & the Hound, the BwB, wildling armies, rogue NWs, Stannis & Co, Reek & Ramsay, WWs, Bran & Co…yee-hah!

  130. Lina
    Posted November 28, 2013 at 5:42 am | Permalink

    squeee… I so was looking to Iain Glen’s commentary!

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