David Benioff and D.B. Weiss on The Writers’ Room
By Winter Is Coming on in News, Press, Production.

Sundance Channel’s The Writers’ Room offers viewers insight into the writing process on hit shows, with each episode featuring a roundtable chat with host Jim Rash and the writers of shows such as Breaking Bad, New Girl and more.

On the fifth episode of this season, airing Monday, August 26th, Game of Thrones writers and executive producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss will join the show. The 30-minute episode covers topics such as their creative process and how the team worked to finish season one, which was initially 93 minutes too short. And, of course, they delve into the series’ two most prominent themes: sex and violence.

Check out a clip from the episode, exclusive to WinterIsComing.net, where David & Dan tell the story of how they pitched the show to George R. R. Martin.

Sundance also provides this interesting excerpt about the violence on the show.

David Benioff: I think there are moments where the gore is pushed too far. It can start to become ridiculous, and something that might work in Evil Dead 2 isn’t going to work in a show with this tone. For instance, there’s a scene in the first season where a man is killed, a lance goes through his throat and you see him gurgling and dying on the ground. Looking back on that, I think we have seven seconds of him with blood coming out.

D.B. “Dan” Weiss: Literally, it’s a matter of a second or two seconds that can be the difference between horrible and funny. You’re in a hurry, you’re editing under immense time pressures and some shots it’s the difference between four frames or five frames…

David Benioff: Ned’s execution originally was supposed to be you would see the sword passing clean through his neck, and you would see the stump of his neck and blood pouring out. So then we ended up having a big argument about exactly which frame to end the sword, so you see it just passing through the skin and then cut out.

For more insights like these, be sure to tune in to Sundance Channel this Monday at 10 PM!


105 Comments

  1. bobjoe
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    Hodor

  2. TastesLikeTheSea
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    “JEFFREY!!!”

  3. Jim Cross
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    hmmmm……. can’t help but wonder what they said to George as their guess about Jon’s mama?

  4. Johan Sporre
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    I predict this will be very enjoyable to watch.

  5. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Wow….what a cool test question! “Who is Jon Snow’s mother?” They got it right…?

    Was this bit of trivia known before this interview?

  6. Henchman
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    This pretty much confirms that the prevailing theory is true, as there is no way that someone would come up with a different guess if they are trying to logically work it out.

  7. Arik
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Ok, we got it.. Enough with the “He asked us who’s Jon Snow’s mother” story… !

  8. Ragman's Harbor
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    Yeah they revealed that bit during the Emmy panel, which was the best panel the show has seen, surpassing even season 1′s pannel. But that’s only my opinion.

  9. boze
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Ragman’s Harbor,

    They revealed that bit long before that Emmy panel.

    Before S1′s airing, if I remember right.

  10. The Flayed Man
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Yep, at this stage the repetitiveness of it is a bit exhausting!

  11. boze
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Ragman’s Harbor,

    Here you go, April 2011:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/arts/television/game-of-thrones-on-hbo-from-george-r-r-martin-novels.html?_r=0

    The first was winning over Mr. Martin in a lunchtime meeting that was mostly collegial, but where Mr. Weiss and Mr. Benioff were quizzed about the parents of Jon Snow, a “Game of Thrones” character of mysterious lineage. (“We had a whole conversation about it,” Mr. Benioff said, “and George was pleased that we got the answer right.”)

    So, yeah.. a bit repetitive indeed.

    The same goes for the bit about Hugh’s death being too long. They already said that.

  12. Sam
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    This interview looks Deanlightful!

  13. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    The Flayed Man: Hodor’s Bastard, Yep, at this stage the repetitiveness of it is a bit exhausting!

    {sigh}…we bastards will forever seek the answer…

    {Sshhhhh! My bet is that Jon is the real Aegon, son of Rhaegar and Lyanna.}

  14. Ragman's Harbor
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    Sorry folks, a bit repetitive it is.

  15. Summer Is Coming
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    the same thing over and over again… I can’t listen to them anymore. Thanks Winter for extracting something new from this interview. Maybe they will learn to make more inflections in their interviews. It could make a difference. And may the odds be ever in their favour! Oh wait..wrong quote.

  16. Rygar
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    These are the same two hippies who put W’s head on a spike. Yep, bringing back introspective controversy.

  17. NousWanderer
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    It’s worth reminding some of you that the vast majority of GoT fans see zero interviews with the show’s cast, to say nothing of the showrunners (who obviously have far less star appeal, and are given fewer opportunities to reach a wide audience with background discussions about their show).

    With that being said, what might be redundant to us – a crowd posting in the comment sections of minor updates on the fansite of a beloved genre show while that show is off-season – quite probably isn’t redundant to most of the audience catching The Writer’s Room. There are only so many interesting anecdotes about the show’s genesis that can be safely expressed, and “the question” is absolutely one that’s worth sharing.

  18. Rygar
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    *belch*

  19. GeekFurious
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    “Wah! We’ve heard this before!!!! WAH!”

    Yeah. It’s not for you. It’s for the general public.

  20. Dagonet
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    Disappointing to see this opportunity turned into another extended (repetitive) interview with D&D. The whole idea of the “Writers’ Room” show is to bring on the ENTIRE writing staff, and see their dynamic. The entire staff of Breaking Bad was on recently, and it was a joy to watch. The GoT episode should have included Vanessa, Bryan, Cat, and even GRRM if he was available. That would have been an interesting discussion. Instead, we got to hear about how D&D were so smart to know who Jon Snow’s mother was, once again.

  21. Felt Pelt
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Something new to discuss is that they at one time had Ned’s headless body sitting there for a second. It worked either way.

    Makes me think of this video, which enables you to see where they cut through repetition. (Don’t look in the comments, there are major spoilers):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r44v0dhramQ&t=1m41s

  22. MCAJayhawk
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Never seen the show before, but this interviewer just comes off like a total tool. Total Hollywood insider BS. “I’d be floored if they cracked it.” Really?

  23. Jaqen is Q
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    If R+L=J is true, then guessing the right answer isn’t very impressive, since it’s easy for anyone to go online, read the theory, and say “That has to be it!”

  24. Joshua Atreides
    Posted August 22, 2013 at 11:56 pm | Permalink

    Somewhat off topic…So Natalie Dormer just got cast as Cressida for Hunger Games: Mockinjay Part I.

    Oh and Ben Affleck is Batman.

  25. Joshua Atreides
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 12:07 am | Permalink

    MCAJayhawk,

    Dude that’s Jim Rash, he’s a hardcore comedy writer and plays Dean Pelton on Community. He’s not what you think he is. He’s the real deal.

  26. NousWanderer
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    Joshua Atreides:
    MCAJayhawk,

    Dude that’s Jim Rash, he’s a hardcore comedy writer and plays Dean Pelton on Community. He’s not what you think he is. He’s the real deal.

    I was about to say this–glad you got there first.

    What’s up with the negativity? As a community, we’ve apparently descended to the level where we compulsively nitpick-to-death a two-minute preview video for a show that amounts to a casual intro to television writing intended for the general public, all because GoT’s showrunners are supposedly too redundant with their anecdotes. At a certain point, there’s no more bottom of the barrel to scrape.

  27. WildSeed
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    Joshua Atreides:
    MCAJayhawk,

    Dude that’s Jim Rash, he’s a hardcore comedy writer and plays Dean Pelton on Community. He’s not what you think he is. He’s the real deal.

    Real deal , INDEED ! Apparently the host, Jim Rash, is an Academy Award winning
    screen writer. I ‘m not surprised that WiC is finally alerting the fandom here of
    the upcoming Sundance Channel ” Writers Room ” show, but I’m glad I tooted
    my horn for it first. Having stumbled across it’s debut ” Breaking Bad ” writers
    panel, I was quite impressed with the production. My hopes are that we fans
    get to finally listen to the GoT script writers ( Cogman included ) as well as
    Benioff & Weiss. To listen to and watch men and women whom display
    such compassion for what they do is quite affectual. The show’s format is
    devoid of fluff or sound bites. Even if I hadn’t read the books, but was a
    enthused viewer, I would be moved by the camaraderie and effort it reveals
    to put a show such as GoT into production. It starts with an idea, an author
    and adaptive process that relates to all the talent that can be amassed (or
    willing to be ), on a project not for a single film project.This takes an ongoing
    commitment of time, joy, true gall, and audacity. Can hardly wait to watch.

  28. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    Jaqen is Q: If R+L=J is true, then guessing the right answer isn’t very impressive, since it’s easy for anyone to go online, read the theory, and say “That has to be it!”

    Yeah…that theory is really too mundane for this site…but it does have its drama. The black hair is probably more of a direct clue.

  29. boze
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious: Yeah. It’s not for you.

    The video is “exclusive to WinterIsComing.net”.. so someone clearly thought that “it was for us”..

  30. WildSeed
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 12:48 am | Permalink

    Joshua Atreides: Ben Affleck is Batman.

    this is……. sadly true.

  31. WildSeed
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    On the subject of Jon Snow’s mother, I’m………………… sorta maybe sure it’s…….

  32. argilac's antler
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    NousWanderer,

    Thank you. The comment section turns toxic rather quickly.

  33. MRR
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 2:00 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious:
    “Wah! We’ve heard this before!!!! WAH!”

    Yeah. It’s not for you. It’s for the general public.

    This, pretty much.

    It may have been an odd choice to give out as an “exclusive clip” to a fansite, but The Writer’s Room is aimed at a broader audience in general.

  34. Chickenduck
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 2:10 am | Permalink

    NousWanderer,

    Thanks NousWanderer, for articulating a sentiment I’ve had for months on this site!

  35. Cosca
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 3:04 am | Permalink

    Guys, your nitpicking a 30 minute episode based on a 2 minute clip…at least wait till the full thing is released

  36. Arristan The Old
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    Hey, at least they’re not as repetitive as GRRM in interviews! I mean, how many times has George told the garderner vs. architect story, or the road trip from NY to LA story, or the human heart in conflict with itself story, or the standing on Hadrian’s wall story, or the turtle castle story, or the selling scary stories to the neighbourhood kids for a nickel story, or the staring across from his 5-block-long world in Bayonne past the ships flying flags from all over the world and dreaming of the faraway lights of exotic Staten Island story, or the buying “Weird Stuff” off the spinner rack of paperbacks & being gifted a hardcover copy of Heinlein’s Have Spacesuit Will Travel story, or the early fanzines for a sticky quarter story, or even the lunch meeting with D&D at the Palm that ran so long it became a dinner meeting too story?

    That said, I actually enjoy those stories even though he’s told them time and time again, since he tells them so well. He’s had plenty of chances to practice telling them, and that’s why he comes off as both insightful and entertaining when they ask him a question he’s been asked a thousand times before.

    So I’m not going to complain when D&D borrow a page out of Martin’s playbook. Because I’m sure they’ve been asked the “So how did you manage to get this job anyhow?” question almost as many times. They gave the same answer because they were asked the same question! Just not getting the disappointment, folks.

  37. Spot
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    NousWanderer, Cosca, Chickenduck, Joshua Atreides
    ditto to all, love this site and it’s writers, best site for GOT info, but the comment section negativity sometimes……geezzzz

  38. Turncloak
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: {sigh}…we bastards will forever seek the answer…

    {Sshhhhh! My bet is that Jon is the real Aegon, son of Rhaegar and Lyanna.}

    That would not make Jon the real Aegon, that would just make him Rhaegar’s bastard son. If he were legitimized than he would fall under the Blackfyre lineage (Targaryen great bastards). The real Aegon is either Young Griff or was killed by The Mountain during the sack of Kings landing

  39. Turncloak
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    Dagonet,

    Why would they bring Vanessa and Cat? The only writers on Game of Thrones are D&D, Cogman, and GRRM if I’m not mistaken. Plus GRRM has enough obligations already

  40. Kees
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    In my opinion, the oft repeated story of GRRM asking them about Jon Snows mother is very strong evidence for R + L = J. I don’t think they were more knowledgeable on asoif then some of the prolific posters on westeros.org
    These fans usually subscribe to R + L = J, so it is likely that B&W did as well.
    GRRM would probably not have accepted if they got the answer wrong.

  41. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Turncloak: That would not make Jon the real Aegon, that would just make him Rhaegar’s bastard son. If he were legitimized than he would fall under the Blackfyre lineage (Targaryen great bastards). The real Aegon is either Young Griff or was killed by The Mountain during the sack of Kings landing

    Appreciate the accurate reminder of ASoI&F history, but maybe the cross-pollination, lineage-mixing, confusion-inducing comment was intentional…given the context. Actually, I wasn’t trying to feed the fire of blog-related repetition ire, just trying to get a fresh discussion going on a well-traveled topic.

    Furthermore, I believe that there is much more than meets the eye and ear regarding the question that GRRM posed to D&D. I bet it was how they answered the question, and not simply that they got it correct, that impressed GRRM.

  42. Jake Umber
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    Jaqen is Q,

    I really disagree. Especially since this was years ago that they met. It was in 2006, if I recall correctly. There was a significant less amount of information about R+L=J on the web back then, and I’d wager that less than 5% of readers pick up on the theory and strongly believe it without researching it.

  43. azad injejikian
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious:
    “Wah! We’ve heard this before!!!! WAH!”

    Yeah. It’s not for you. It’s for the general public.

    Agreed. Not everyone has obsessively listened to every interview and read every print interview. And some people are never happy. Complaining about free content like an interview is baffling.

  44. loco73
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Ughhh, I just shuddered when they mentioned Fox and “Game Of Thrones” in the same sentence…I think I just threw up in my mouth…banish the tought…begone you foul thought!!!!!

    Off topic, in case you haven’t seen it yet, here is a link to the trailer for “Pompeii”
    coming out next year and starring our very own Jon Snow/ Kit Harrington as a Roman Jon Snow?!?! LOL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWDVBQkBBoE

  45. Valyrian eyes
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Turncloak: That would not make Jon the real Aegon, that would just make him Rhaegar’s bastard son. If he were legitimized than he would fall under the Blackfyre lineage (Targaryen great bastards). The real Aegon is either Young Griff or was killed by The Mountain during the sack of Kings landing

    I think you’re mixing things up. The name “Blackfyre” is not the name of all Targaryen bastards, it’s only the name Daemon picked up because of the sword he was given. Daemon, Bittersteel, Bloodraven and Shiera were called “the great bastards” because they were Targaryen on both sides (which Jon wouldn’t be), but only Daemon was called Blackfyre. So the Blackfyre lineage is Daemon’s lineage, not a name for Targaryen bastards.

  46. Roopert
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious:
    “Wah! We’ve heard this before!!!! WAH!”

    Yeah. It’s not for you. It’s for the general public.

    Exactly – and when you’re asked the same questions over and over what else do you say?

  47. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    Valyrian eyes: I think you’re mixing things up. The name “Blackfyre” is not the name of all Targaryen bastards, it’s only the name Daemon picked up because of the sword he was given. Daemon, Bittersteel, Bloodraven and Shiera were called “the great bastards” because they were Targaryen on both sides (which Jon wouldn’t be), but only Daemon was called Blackfyre. So the Blackfyre lineage is Daemon’s lineage, not a name for Targaryen bastards.

    Holy crap! Where did you get the “great bastards” info? Are you Elio G?

  48. world_dancer
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Jaqen is Q:
    If R+L=J is true, then guessing the right answer isn’t very impressive, since it’s easy for anyone to go online, read the theory, and say “That has to be it!”

    It’s not the impressiveness that matters, it’s that you have to read at least half (I think that’s where Ned’s dream sequence of the battle to the tower is) of Game of Thrones to arrive at this conclusion.

    Executives who hear that something is trendy and who are not familiar at all with the material will fail every time.

  49. Valyrian eyes
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard: Holy crap! Where did you get the “great bastards” info? Are you Elio G?

    Hahahahaha no!!! Some of it is in the Dunk & Egg tales, but most of the details concerning the great bastards I read here: http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/1467

    P.s.:oh and there’s a mistake in the first post; only Daemon was Targaryen on both sides, I’d misremembered it :)

  50. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    loco73,

    Drooling over Kit’s abs……

  51. I am no Ser
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    world_dancer,

    Right – I agree. I think GRRM wanted to make sure they really read and cared about the story rather than just execs trying to find the next LOTR or something. So by asking who Jon’s mother was, if they answered Lyanna it would indicate that they had indeed read and thought about it, not necessarily that they were impressive or even correct in their answer.

  52. Mormegil
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Valyrian eyes:

    P.s.:oh and there’s a mistake in the first post; only Daemon was Targaryen on both sides, I’d misremembered it :)

    I was about to point that out to you.

    Aegon IV had dozens of Bastard children all of whom he made legitimate on his deathbed but the Great Bastards were those children he had with his official Mistresses (all of whom were of Noble Blood).

  53. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Valyrian eyes: Hahahahaha no!!! Some of it is in the Dunk & Egg tales, but most of the details concerning the great bastards I read here: http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/1467 P.s.:oh and there’s a mistake in the first post; only Daemon was Targaryen on both sides, I’d misremembered it :)

    I’m waiting for the D&E trilogy/quadrilogy to come out as a separate book soon, in addition to release of “TP&tQ” from Dangerous Women, in addition to the release of “World of Ice & Fire” by EG and others….to get our ASoI&F history addiction quenched and facts straight. Hopefully these minor/major distractions will come out soon! Although, as the consumer-driven market dictates, these sideworks will all be trumped by the inevitable GRRMarillion that will be unapologetically released after the series is complete, I assume.

    Oh…and that next ASoI&F volume, TWoW, might see the light of day in late 2014 (fingers-crossed), barring any convention intervention.

  54. Jordan
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    O Sweet Summer Child…

  55. Ashara D
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Thanks for your toot! I tuned in for the “Breaking Bad” episode and was fascinated by all of the insights and background info despite the fact that I haven’t watched BB at all yet (I know, I know, I will!). I am very excited to see the GoT episode, despite the fact that my current lurking here and earlier at Westeros has given me tons of background already.

    I’m with Arristan the Old and like to hear these tales told again and again. Hearing them so often makes me feel like I was at the Palm that day. And every time I hear that anecdote I think, “What if they said, ‘Wylla. Ashara and Lyanna are just red herrings.’ or ‘It doesn’t matter. In the end, blood means nothing; it’s all about the Game.’” and then talked for hours about the theories. At this time of year, I’ll take any crumbs of ASoIaF stuff they want to throw my way. Hence my obsessive lurking here…

    Keep it coming, Winter!

    OT: Thanks for the trailer link, loco73! Ms. D: Yum!! ;)

  56. azad injejikian
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Oh…and that next ASoI&F volume, TWoW, might see the light of day in late 2014 (fingers-crossed), barring any convention intervention.

    Football is coming…. :)

  57. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Jordan: Hodor’s Bastard, O Sweet Summer Child…

    Oh…the fear is there, my friend, the fear is there….

    Great video homage to Old Nan’s quote on YouTube by the way, with perfect music by Bon Iver. Thx

    azad injejikian:…but I thought american football and winter mixed well with each other….?

    …winter IS coming!

  58. Jaime Saltcliffe
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    NousWanderer,

    Man, even this guys comments are over written and contrived.

    ….And back to real life

  59. loco73
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Ms. D. Ranged in AZ,

    Yeah…LOL….he packed on those, “300″ abs!

  60. Delta1212
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    *indean

  61. Turncloak
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    Valyrian eyes,

    I think you are correct , good catch!

  62. Turncloak
    Posted August 23, 2013 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    No worries!

  63. WildSeed
    Posted August 24, 2013 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    Ashara D,

    I could listen to these stories repeatedly for the often added gems that grow
    with the telling. Someone commented above that the show was the show,
    ” Writer’s Room ” is likened to an introductory television writing class, to that
    I could not disagree more. Contingent upon one’s level of experience to either
    relate as a fellow writer, student, or novice, the scope of the show bears
    different points of interest. I viewed the Breaking Bad episode, through fresh
    eyes, and watched passionate people discuss their work n progress. It was
    insightful and quite candid. On the other hand, depending on the writing panel,
    the discussion could easily come off wanting. I suppose the scope of the show
    allows for thought provoking subjects as it does comedic fluff, depends on the
    guests.

    Although I speak as a simple fan of the ASOIAF series, not hoping to critique
    but insights relating to the writers candid discussion. I may be surprised,
    or not. I hope Jim Rash has some tough questions for all of them.

    Also, Cogman is an executive writer, so aren’t there more besides him, Benioff
    & Weiss , and GRRM ?

  64. axia777
    Posted August 24, 2013 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    People think this is confirmation for Robert Baratheon + Lyanna Stark = John Snow. I say they are fools who have not read the future books and need to wait. Never try to guess what Martin is writing, he will always prove you wrong.

  65. Echoes in a well
    Posted August 24, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    NousWanderer:
    It’s worth reminding some of you that the vast majority of GoT fans see zero interviews with the show’s cast, to say nothing of the showrunners (who obviously have far less star appeal, and are given fewer opportunities to reach a wide audience with background discussions about their show).

    With that being said, what might be redundant to us – a crowd posting in the comment sections of minor updates on the fansite of a beloved genre show while that show is off-season – quite probably isn’t redundant to most of the audience catching The Writer’s Room. There are only so many interesting anecdotes about the show’s genesis that can be safely expressed, and “the question” is absolutely one that’s worth sharing.

    LOL. No! They should only appeal to the die-hard obsessed fan. Who needs the other fans??

    And, anyway, this should be a story that we should enjoy hearing again and again. We get to hear about GRRM turning to significantly better deals with major studios and how important it was to him that the showrunners not only had read his books, but were avid fanboys. note – this sites knowledge of ASOIAF is significantly greater when compared to everyone who’s read these books. This story is impressive. Keep telling it D&D!

    Oh and, the ENTIRE Breaking Bad staff was at the writer’s room because the entire Breaking Bad cast and crew happened making the interview rounds and hitting every possible venue hard to promote the series finale.

  66. EverydayImHodoring
    Posted August 24, 2013 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    No new information here from D & D, and the show is only 30 minutes long so I’m guessing it’s going to hit the same main questions/topics per usual. But it’s great that it’s out there for the less obsessive public.

  67. Rygar
    Posted August 24, 2013 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    NousWanderer:
    It’s worth reminding some of you that the vast majority of GoT fans see zero interviews with the show’s cast, to say nothing of the showrunners (who obviously have far less star appeal, and are given fewer opportunities to reach a wide audience with background discussions about their show).

    With that being said, what might be redundant to us – a crowd posting in the comment sections of minor updates on the fansite of a beloved genre show while that show is off-season – quite probably isn’t redundant to most of the audience catching The Writer’s Room. There are only so many interesting anecdotes about the show’s genesis that can be safely expressed, and “the question” is absolutely one that’s worth sharing.

    It is worth reminding that the vast majority of visitors to this site are not casual viewers and have heard these same comments repeated over and over. Posting this video on a writers site not dedicated to this show would gather less negativity to the subject material methinks. The vast majority come here on the off season for new information and updates on the forthcoming season.

    But they are being whiny little bitches, ain’t they?

  68. Mrgreendinosaur
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Wouldn’t it be something if Hodor was Jon Snow’s mother? I mean, wow. What a twist.

  69. boze
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    axia777,

    Cause you really think that the R+L=J theory means Robert + Lyanna = Jon? You’re the only fool here. It’s Rhaegar + Lyanna = Jon..

  70. Anne
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    I was really looking forward to seeing this episode of The Writers Room, because I thought for sure they’d include Bryan Cogman, and now I’m disappointed he won’t be there. I’ll still watch, but meh.

  71. WildSeed
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Anne:
    I was really looking forward to seeing this episode of The Writers Room, because I thought for sure they’d include Bryan Cogman, and now I’m disappointed he won’t be there.I’ll still watch, but meh.

    Was he ill at the taping of the show, or had another engagement to attend ?
    What on earth would have you come to the conclusion that Mr Cogman
    would not be in attendance ?

    If you do watch the show, this monday in the US, you may be surprised .
    I hope he attends *>* , it would be a disappointment if he were not on
    the schedule. Even so, other staff writers Will attend.

  72. B Cogman
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    D&D are the only ones appearing on the program. :) And to clarify: for Season 4, we’re just a staff of four — D&D, George, and myself.

    B

  73. Kyrenna
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    axia777,

    Thanks for the laugh :)

    (if this had actually happened, Targaryens would still rule the Seven Kingdoms ‘today’)

    Note me down as another person kinda disappointed atleast Bryan Cogman didn’t make it to this too.

  74. mariamb18
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman:
    D&D are the only ones appearing on the program. :) And to clarify: for Season 4, we’re just a staff of four — D&D, George, and myself.

    B

    Thanks for the clarification. Stay well!

  75. WildSeed
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed: Although I speak as a simple fan of the ASOIAF series, not hoping to critique
    but insights relating to the writers candid discussion. I may be surprised,
    or not. I hope Jim Rash has some tough questions for all of them.

    Also, Cogman is an executive writer, so aren’t there more besides him, Benioff
    & Weiss , and GRRM ?

    B Cogman:
    D&D are the only ones appearing on the program. :) And to clarify: for Season 4, we’re just a staff of four — D&D, George, and myself.

    B

    Thanks for the clarification. I must have got my hopes up from the advert. It
    appears too, that the Subject Post here, only vaguely mentions ” Game of Thrones
    writers, and executive producers, ” Benioff & Weiss, will join the show “.

    Anne,

    My apologies Anne. Now I’m disappointed with the guest list, however I’ll
    tune in anyway.

  76. Chickenduck
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman:
    D&D are the only ones appearing on the program. :) And to clarify: for Season 4, we’re just a staff of four — D&D, George, and myself.

    B

    Reasons B. Cogman is a fan favourite:

    1. He’s a great writer
    2. He’s a champ who interacts with the fandom :)

  77. Travis
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Valyrian eyes,

    Not quite true on that all the great bastards were pure Targaryen. Bloodraven’s mother was a Blackwood. Bittersteel’s mother was a Bracken. Sheira’s was a noble woman from Lys.

  78. Chickenduck
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    Travis:
    Valyrian eyes,

    Not quite true on that all the great bastards were pure Targaryen. Bloodraven’s mother was a Blackwood. Bittersteel’s mother was a Bracken. Sheira’s was a noble woman from Lys.

    Travis is correct. The “Great Bastards” were just the ones whose mothers were of noble birth, regardless of Targaryen ancestry.

    The only one so far confirmed to be Targaryen on both sides was Daemon.

  79. WildSeed
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    The first time I encountered his comments at WiC, I was upset that it was some
    troll was manipulating guests here, and claiming stuff he could not possibly know
    ( something that happens on the webverse on an hourly basis ). I was really
    in awe to discover that the man enjoys what he does, and likes to talk about
    it…… even among the fandom. I give him and Mr Martin, big ” thumbs up ” .

  80. Chickenduck
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 1:34 am | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Yeah, I didn’t believe it was him at first, until Winter and a few others confirmed it. So thumbs up from me. I also respect that he’s done things like go on Game of Owns, which was a really great interview… gave some good insights into the adaptation process.

    It’s got to be hard, 98% of the fandom are going to be pretty reasonable, but you’ll always get a few who get pretty aggro (or just regular trolls :)

  81. GeekFurious
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    I just watched the episode with the NEW GIRL staff and it was a lot of fun. So I expect this to be a blast.

  82. GeekFurious
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Rygar: It is worth reminding that the vast majority of visitors to this site are not casual viewers and have heard these same comments repeated over and over.Posting this video on a writers site not dedicated to this show would gather less negativity to the subject material methinks. The vast majority come here on the off season for new information and updates on the forthcoming season.

    But they are being whiny little bitches, ain’t they?

    How do you know the “vast majority” who read this site are “not casual viewers”?

    There is no way for you to know that.

  83. Loki
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious: How do you know the “vast majority” who read this site are “not casual viewers”?

    There is no way for you to know that.

    Casual fans (and even more, casual viewers) stop being casual the minute they stumble into this site. Plain and simple.

  84. Adam Whitehead
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Oh…and that next ASoI&F volume, TWoW, might see the light of day in late 2014 (fingers-crossed), barring any convention intervention.

    Nope. At Comic-Con Bantam reps seemed to be saying summer 2015 was what they were hoping for. One of GRRM’s agents told his Polish publishers more recently that it was starting to look like 2016.

    2014 can be safely ruled out at this point, I think.

  85. Rygar
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious: How do you know the “vast majority” who read this site are “not casual viewers”?

    There is no way for you to know that.

    Call it a hunch. and what Loki said.

  86. GeekFurious
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Statistically speaking, the vast majority of people who read any site are “casual” viewers. The tiniest of minorities are represented by hardcore fans.

  87. Juego de Tronos
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    very interesting words!

  88. Rygar
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious:
    Statistically speaking, the vast majority of people who read any site are “casual” viewers. The tiniest of minorities are represented by hardcore fans.

    That may be true, but they are not the ones posting and complaining about redundancies which is what we are discussing.

    So edit my post as “the vast majority that contribute to this site” if that makes things better for you.

  89. boze
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious: How do you know the “vast majority” who read this site are “not casual viewers”?

    There is no way for you to know that.

    There is a way, actually: common sense.

    People who come here on a daily basis in the off-season, looking for the tiniest bit of information about the show cease to be called “casual viewers” by the very definition of the term.

  90. Chickenduck
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Adam Whitehead,

    :( although not entirely surprised…

  91. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    Adam Whitehead: Nope. At Comic-Con Bantam reps seemed to be saying summer 2015 was what they were hoping for. One of GRRM’s agents told his Polish publishers more recently that it was starting to look like 2016.2014 can be safely ruled out at this point, I think.

    Ughh. Oh well…I will continue to be an unsatisfied, naive optimist.

  92. DH87
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Anne: because I thought for sure they’d include Bryan Cogman, and now I’m disappointed he won’t be there. I’

    No need for wee Bryan to appear on The Writers’ Room: he materializes here whenever we close our eyes and summon him by thinking lovely thoughts.

  93. Echoes in a well
    Posted August 26, 2013 at 11:29 pm | Permalink

    DH87,

    Hahaha.

    I just watched it and thought it was great.

  94. Chickenduck
    Posted August 27, 2013 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    Not on TV here… Well, I guess I best go be an Australian and torrent it…

  95. Ghost of Harrenhal
    Posted August 27, 2013 at 3:28 am | Permalink

    It was interesting such as the writing process David and Dan have

  96. A-Gone
    Posted August 27, 2013 at 3:38 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    Nobody uploaded the torrent. I’ve been searching for hours…
    If anyone here has it, please torrent it. I’ll give you a lemon pie.

  97. argilac's antler
    Posted August 27, 2013 at 3:52 am | Permalink

    The story about showing the original pilot to their writer friends and the comment of “MASSIVE PROBLEMS” takes me back to the feedback WiC first reported about the screening of the pilot. In short, it was a dark time for us all and many weren’t sure the series would even get green-lit.

    A lot of us ASOIAF fans speculated the negative feedback came from HBO execs not liking the story/characters of the source material itself. Now it’s clearer why and what the issues were. It was mostly a presentation problem, since it was D&D’s first attempt at television and they didn’t know how to create a proper pilot.

  98. Chickenduck
    Posted August 27, 2013 at 4:29 am | Permalink

    A-Gone:
    Chickenduck,

    Nobody uploaded the torrent. I’ve been searching for hours…
    If anyone here has it, please torrent it. I’ll give you a lemon pie.

    I’ve found a few Writer’s Room torrents, but they seem to have appeared a few days after the show airs. So I’ll try later in the week. Will watch the Parks & Rec on in the interim.

    Hey, you know what’s cool? Henry Winkler on the upcoming season of Parks & Rec, that’s what! As Mona Lisa and Jean Ralphio’s Dad…

  99. Alex Greyjoy
    Posted August 27, 2013 at 6:26 am | Permalink

    Adam Whitehead: Nope. At Comic-Con Bantam reps seemed to be saying summer 2015 was what they were hoping for. One of GRRM’s agents told his Polish publishers more recently that it was starting to look like 2016.

    2014 can be safely ruled out at this point, I think.

    Meaning the real release date is 2017 to never.

  100. Lino
    Posted August 27, 2013 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    NousWanderer,

    My thoughts exactly! Thank you :)

  101. azad injejikian
    Posted August 27, 2013 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Adam Whitehead,

    5 Years again? My sadness grows.

    If any book in recent memory could sell on its own without promotion it’s TWoW. Yet, they’ll have George out there wasting a year doing retailer signings and readings to drum up “interest”. Oh well, ADoS in 2020 if it keeps going this way.

  102. WildSeed
    Posted August 27, 2013 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Echoes in a well:
    DH87,

    Hahaha.

    I just watched it and thought it was great.

    I thought they both were kinda nervous, must have been stage fright . I was
    surprised by that, and how quickly it was over. These two men have proven
    track records, and not likely challenged by the venue or host, yet it appeared
    awkward. I will repeat because I took a overseas call during the broadcast.

  103. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted August 27, 2013 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    At one point during the interview DB Weiss is surrounded by 3 coffee cups. When the EW guy joins them, DB has two cups and the EW guy has one. I wonder if the EW guy shared a cup with DB? Also I wonder if DB truly needed 3 cups of coffee? These are busy times for them…

    I rather enjoyed the interview, although at the beginning they kept mentioning that there are only 3 writers for S4 (D&D&BC)…then after a few minutes they casually mentioned that GRRM wrote an episode…..struck me as odd that they didn’t say there were 4 writers in the first place.

  104. arden
    Posted August 27, 2013 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    They forgot to say they went to meet with George for lunch and ended up talking until the dinner service.

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