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Deleted scenes from Season 4 revealed

Last week saw the exclusive Game of Thrones Season 4 DVD launch party in Quebec that included an amazing Ice Iron Throne. The DVDs themselves won’t hit the shelves (virtual or brick and mortar) for another nine days. But we’re in luck: a couple  deleted scenes from the DVD extras have hit the web a week early.

The first scene was cut from Season 4 episode 2, “The Lion and The Rose.” It’s a short scene between Bronn and Shae directly after Tyrion dismisses her, as they head down to the ship to take her to Pentos.

The second scene was cut from Season 4 episode 8, “The Mountain and The Viper,” but no, it doesn’t give us extra Oberyn. Instead post-banishment of Jorah, Dany and Missandei have a short heart-to-heart.

Check them out below.

This scene plays funny–I can see why it was cut. The intention here seems to be to foreshadow Bronn’s decision down the line to choose a comfortable life over loyalty to Tyrion. But it feels odd. (“Hey, your lover just threw you away, so let’s talk about me!”) Also, it makes Bronn look a little two-faced when he tells Tyrion later in the episode that he did the right thing.

There are things I really like about this scene–like the shot of the city we don’t usually get. Yes, it is more obviously green screened than other Meereenese shots, but I assume they stopped cleaning it up once it was cut. This one feels like it was cut for time more than anything–after all, in an episode where everyone is waiting for the title card fight, a longer, drawn out quiet scene like this might hurt the pacing.

The Season 4 DVDs arrive February 17th.

10 Comments

  • Ani,

    I respect your perspective, but I think you missed half the point of the Bronn-Shae scene. You said:

    This scene plays funny–I can see why it was cut. The intention here seems to be to foreshadow Bronn’s decision down the line to choose a comfortable life over loyalty to Tyrion. But it feels odd. (“Hey, your lover just threw you away, so let’s talk about me!”) Also, it makes Bronn look a little two-faced when he tells Tyrion later in the episode that he did the right thing.

    First, Bronn’s giving her advice based on their shared status as lowborn upstart social climbers. It’s not just about him. He’s commiserating. The scene also lays the groundwork for Shae’s betrayal of Tyrion, which many viewers were shocked by (and had difficulty understanding). Bronn says “We have to adapt” and “learn new tricks.” And that’s what Shae ultimately does.

    Second, later in the episode Bronn tells Tyrion to drink “until it FEELS like he did the right thing.” That implies that Bronn believes (and believes Tyrion believes) that it WASN’t the right thing to do. In that sense, Bronn’s dialogue in this deleted scene is consistent with his later admonition to Tyrion.

    My guess is that the show-runners preferred NOT to foreshadow either Bronn’s decision to not fight the Mountain, or Shae’s decision to betray Tyrion. They went with shock over developing motivations (particularly with Shae, as I had little problem with Bronn’s decision), and I think that’s unfortunate.

    Love the season, but this one scene would have improved it, IMO.

  • ArgonathofBraavos:
    Ani,

    I respect your perspective, but I think you missed half the point of the Bronn-Shae scene. You said:

    First, Bronn’s giving her advice based on their shared status as lowborn upstart social climbers. It’s not just about him. He’s commiserating. The scene also lays the groundwork for Shae’s betrayal of Tyrion, which many viewers were shocked by (and had difficulty understanding). Bronn says “We have to adapt” and “learn new tricks.” And that’s what Shae ultimately does.

    Second, later in the episode Bronn tells Tyrion to drink “until it FEELS like he did the right thing.” That implies that Bronn believes (and believes Tyrion believes) that it WASN’t the right thing to do. In that sense, Bronn’s dialogue in this deleted scene is consistent with his later admonition to Tyrion.

    My guess is that the show-runners preferred NOT to foreshadow either Bronn’s decision to not fight the Mountain, or Shae’s decision to betray Tyrion. They went with shock over developing motivations (particularly with Shae, as I had little problem with Bronn’s decision), and I think that’s unfortunate.

    Love the season, but this one scene would have improved it, IMO.

    I second that.

  • ArgonathofBraavos,

    I think they chose to cut this scene in order not to foreshadow Shae’s betrayal, as you say…but more importantly, in order not to imply to the viewer that Bronn had something to do with Shae’s decision. It would have been disjointed as a viewer to see Shae’s betrayal unfold and to be thinking, “Stupid Bronn for planting that seed in her head.” It would have detracted from the viewer’s love for all-things Bronn.
    So I’m glad they cut this one.

  • Yes, I also think that this scene was a bit contradictory in terms of Bronns motives and what we later saw of him

  • Zach,

    Perhaps, but its one of those rare instances when GoT gives us the “downstairs” perspective in the upstairs-downstairs drama. Almost everything in the story revolves around men and women of noble families (the upstairs), and its nice to see those not of that class (the downstairs) talk to each other and commiserate in such a way. This scene is also consistent with Bronn’s “When have you ever risked your life for me?” statement to Tyrion, which Tyrion takes as a legitimate question. I also think Bronn’s advice to Shae is vague enough that it does not implicate him in Shae’s decision to betray Tyrion. He simply suggested that she adapt in order to survive and prosper. Never for a moment was he implying that she should shack up with Tywin Lannister! Lastly, its realistic. Bronn is a loyal fellow, sure. But he’s a sellsword, and though Tyrion appreciates him, Tyrion still treats him as a sellsword. In that context, its perfectly understandable that he might say a few negative things about the class of people Tyrion belongs to. It’s still in character, IMO, because Bronn doesn’t actually betray Tyrion. He just vents a bit, and mostly in service of giving Shae some advice that might keep her alive. In other words, I think it rounds his character out.

    However, I don’t think cutting it was necessarily the wrong decision, as it is a little poorly-staged. But a scene like this, perhaps toning down the acid in Bronn’s indictment, would have been a welcome setup to Shae’s (and Bronn’s) future actions.

    chamush,

    Contradictory how?

  • The Bronn / Shae scene IS well written.

    My problem with the scene is my problem with every scene involving Shae. The actress who plays Shae is just terrible. She’s been awful in every scene she’s been in since season 1. Maybe she is better in her native french, but you can actually see the other actors struggling to play against her wooden delivery. Its like she doesn’t understand the words she’s been asked to say.

    I wonder if Peter Dinklage was secretly thrilled when she died and he know he’d never have to play against her again.