Arya Stark Editorial Season 6

And the worst moment from Game of Thrones Season 6 was…

Look, we all love Game of Thrones. It’s why we’re here. But the show isn’t perfect. Last week, we asked you to name your picks for the worst moment from Game of Thrones Season 6, and to vote in a poll to that effect. You voted and you commented. These are your stories…


According to y’all, the worst moment of the season came near the beginning, when Ellaria Sand and her Sand Snakes murdered the remaining members of the Martell family and took over Dorne. This was my pick for Worst Moment, too. I didn’t think the logic of events held up under even light scrutiny (just how in the hell did Nymeria and Obara get on that boat with Trystane?), I didn’t like how Ellaria and the Sand Snakes continued to be written as paper-thin caricatures, and I hated what the show did with Doran Martell. In the books, he’s an intelligent player of the game, but here he can’t see a coup coming from several miles away.

Not everybody was down on the scene, however. Young Dragon came to its defense:

As someone who never cared for the Dorne storyline in the books, I’m glad they seriously reduced it on the show. I liked every Dorne scene in season 6 better than any Dorne scene from season 5. And I actually liked Doran more in the show than in the books. It’s refreshing to have a lord who is willing to give up on revenge for the safety of his people, unlike in the books, where Doran is just like every other lord who is willing to sacrifice his people to avenge his family. To make it worse, the plan Book Doran had been working on for more than a decade literally goes up in flames. I know Martin was trying to portray him as a master strategist, but I certainly don’t see it.

I’m not yet convinced, but kudos on an interesting take, Young Dragon.

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Another big offender was the resolution of Arya’s plotline in Braavos, which involved everyone’s favorite little assassin sustaining a massive gut wound courtesy of the Waif only to bounce back miraculously after Lady Crane attends to her using all the medical knowledge she picked up during her career in the theater. (I feel compelled to quote Jonathan Van Ness of Gay of Thrones fame here: “We had [Arya], who was very injured, so she did the right thing and went straight to a professional…actress.” Guest: “Which makes sense. Like, when I broke my ankle, I went directly to Debra Messing.”)

Then Arya hops around the city like a spider monkey. David Gorski laid down some knowledge on why that’s so bonkers:

Such a brutal stabbing would certainly have punctured colon, intestine, or other internal organs—or a major blood vessel, like the aorta or inferior vena cava. If she was lucky enough that the knife didn’t hit a major blood vessel, so that she didn’t bleed to death within minutes or a couple hours, she almost certainly would have had perforated bowel. Without surgery such wounds lead to a slow, painful death from peritonitis over the next few days, thanks to the leakage of bowel content into where it shouldn’t be in the abdomen. (Even with prompt surgery, without modern antibiotics Arya would have had at least a 50% chance of dying.) So to see her up and about (even if in pain) after a day or two broke the willing suspension of disbelief necessary for me to enjoy that episode.

Speaking as a non-medical professional, that sequence shattered my suspension of disbelief as well—you don’t need a medical degree to know that what Arya did is impossible, or damn near it. I gotta agree with Gypsydanger Lux that it “insulted the intelligence of the audience.”

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Oh, come on!

Also, regarding the matter of off-screen deaths, I laughed out loud at Priscilla’s idea for why we didn’t see the Waif’s final moments:

Maybe it was something very anticlimatic, like the Waif was surprised by the darkness, she bumped into a table, fell and bumped her head, dying from her injuries and Arya just got her face off and pretended to Jaqen just to get her degree!

Other contenders included a duo of scenes featuring Tyrion, Grey Worm and Missandei. Remember that weird scene where they tried to make conversation in “Oathbreaker?” Jillyfish does.

Tyrion’s filler scenes get my vote. It seems to me that his character suffers the most by not having GRRM dialogue. And it’s a shame as Peter Dinklage is great and Tyrian is too.

And I💜lemoncakes weighed in on the scene in “No One” where the three of them told jokes:

The Greyworm/Missandie joke scene was awkward. It felt like the writers ran out of material said, “roll camera” and just do something.

The odd thing is that I think the writers came up with some quality original dialogue for Tyrion in Season 6—I enjoyed his negotiations with the Masters in “Book of the Stranger,” for instance. But those scenes…something else happened in those scenes.

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Not everyone agreed with our pics for Worst Moment, though. For instance, David (Razor) Harris didn’t like that Jon Snow charged Ramsay Bolton’s lines after Rickon died, thinking it displayed a lack of forethought. Commenters like a57se saw it differently:

Jon was still in the mode of thinking he should be dead so to him, charging the enemy was ‘logical’…it isn’t til he is enveloped and struggling to breathe that he decides to embrace his second chance. I had no problem with his actions.

I tend to agree, by the way. Jon didn’t make the brightest decision there, but it was a decision I believed he’d make.

Incidentally, a57se’s pic for Worst Moment was one we forgot to include on our poll, perhaps because we were trying to forget it happened.

The worst scene was clearly the one where Clegane comes across the first group of men and the one guy is sticking his finger in the others ass crack and then smelling it. That was about as juvenile and stupid as anything I have ever seen on TV. Then Clegane just hacks them up. Totally unnecessary…

Weirdly, I didn’t mind the hacking up. But yeah, what was with that first part?


 

Finally, Madrambler had an interesting critique of the scene where Daenerys rallies her new Dothraki followers from atop Drogon:

[I]t wasn’t the fact that she was giving a speech or what she was saying in it but how the these thousands of people standing a hundreds feet beneath her are supposed to hear her. I doubt a person standing right beneath her would be able to hear a word of what she was saying…I know realism is too much to ask for in a scene involving dragons but hey at least make it believable.

Okay, now that we’ve gotten all that negativity out of our system, here’s a video full of cute golden retriever puppies to help you regain your equilibrium.

41 Comments

  • Agree pretty much with this…
    Although as an emergency department nurse I would like to add that I’ve looked after more than one person who has been stabbed multiple times in the abdomen who miraculously didn’t damage anything….so I’m good with the Ayra/magic healing lady crane storyline 😁😁

    • Interesting! Do you take issue at all with David Gorski’s comments above about what would happen to Arya in the event of a wound like that? It’s great to get opinions from people who actually work in medicine.

    • I think you are onto something. We got it all wrong- that Arya moment was her version of Daenerys surviving the flames. Arya was indeed mortally wounded, but she survived because she is special. It was a miracle!

    • Agreed plus as with all GoT scenes, we don’t know if Arya has been with Lady Crane only overnight or for a couple days or for a month.
      The other thing is people would be amazed what adrenaline can do for you.

  • I have to add sansa not telling jon VITAL STRATEGIC INFORMATION before the battle, even after he asks for it, for literally no reason. also, jamie not immediately turning the ship around after whatsherface was poisoned because it was obvious who did it. man I forgot how terrible that season was. I mean it was great, but also terrible at the same time.

  • Well…..I agree it’s more likely she would suffer injuries which would induce death…the comments above being sensible and not incorrect…but I can’t deny what I’ve seen with my own eyes! Humans are amazing sometimes!

  • After Arya kills the waif she returns to the house of black/white. There is a trail of blood on the ground that Jacquen follows straight to the well. The waters in the well give u what u need, death or life depending on ur situation. Yes the actress helped Arya initially but it was the well waters that healed her.

    • So glad Bon and others are aware of stabbing survival. As I replied to Dr Gorski on the original Small Council article, back in my academic days I read medieaval accounts of battlefield miracles, soldiers who survived grievous wounds to fight again. Yes, they had no antibiotics and modern medicine, but back then just to be alive into adulthood you had to have a pretty strong immune system. Plus, in a fantasy fiction, Jon saying, “We Starks are hard to kill” and Arya saying “Not today” to the god of death are much more operative than textbook anatomical analysis. Moreover, the narrative implies that Arya was gambling on defeating the Waif, presumably to escape the FM. Most likely she stopped on that bridge so that the Waif could only come from two directions and so she could jump into the water to get away. She probably counted on surviving her initial wounds and luring and killing the Waif and then taking a dip in the Healing Well. Wouldn’t we all like to have such a healing well?

    • Yeah, that’s a part that I missed initially and I think most of the harshest critics of this storyline miss it as well.

      I don’t think it’s a great storyline… could have been handled better, and it is definitely a bit of a stretch… but I think people are being just a little too pedantic about it. For one thing, people are assuming it was this big, horrible, deep, “gaping” wound… Look at the knife the Waif has. It was a small, easily concealable blade, no more than about 3 or 4 inches long. Not that deep. People also seem to over-count how many times she was stabbed… people make it out like she was stabbed a bunch of times, saying she was “gutted” and stuff like that… she was only stabbed twice. Again, by a small blade.

      As for the notion that she would have had intestinal damage, etc… we don’t know that. The blade wasn’t that big, so it could have missed organs and intestines. When you don’t know that something like this happened and the show presents it as though that didn’t happen… best to assume that didn’t happen.

      What the show does show us is that she DID almost end up bleeding out and would have if Lady Crane didn’t find her.

      As for her running around a day later… yeah, it’s a bit hard to imagine you could do that. But adrenaline is a powerful thing and Arya is a tough girl. When your life is threatened, your brain tends to put things like pain on hold. A stitched up wound would be sore, but not necessarily so blindingly painful that it would stop her from running away from a threat against her life. AND… people seem to always forget that she had been given Milk of the Poppy… a frickin PAIN KILLER… which she had JUST woken up from being put under by, so we can assume the painkilling effects were still lingering to some degree.

      So yes… it’s a bit of a stretch and you have to suspend your disbelief a little more than usual with this show… but it’s really not as grievous a problem as people make it out to be. There were a LOT of elements employed here to help us suspend our disbelief… it just seems that most people chose to ignore them in favour of being critical. I don’t know why audiences so often seem to have the instinct to want to criticize, instead of wanting to just accept and enjoy, but I feel like this is one of those times. At any rate, in the grand scheme of things, if this is the worst Game of Thrones has to offer, it just proves how great this show really is. Even it’s biggest problems really aren’t THAT problematic.

  • Arya channelled her inner wolf and killed the Waif. She ran to the lady for help because she missed having a mother in her life, and knew she could be trusted.
    Dorne was doomed as soon as Cersi dead daughter was returned back to KL.

  • The Dorne scenes are rightfully #1 here. Aside from the fact that Ellaria and the Sand Snakes are completely 2 dimensional, the murder of Doran was a total stretch. In the books, he and Areo Hotah are way too aware of their surroundings to be caught off guard like that. I literally can’t imagine any scenario where Hotah lets someone sneak up behind him and stab him in the back.

  • The whole Dorne subplot was so cheesy and irrational (why did they kill Tristane?!) it should get its own category. Frankly, I didn’t expect anything good to happen down there after their silliness in season 5, so I was more disappointed in the whole assassins/House of Black and White climax. I still can’t wrap my head around the fact how fast Arya recovered from supposedly life-threatening wound, and above all – the Jaquen’s strange acceptance of her killing the Waif & escaping Braavos.

  • How come Ramsay killing Roose faster than you can say “Plot Device” isn’t in the running, i mean i know it was a bad season with so many bad/rushed moments but Geez..

  • I don’t understand how Kingsmoot made to the ‘Worst’ list. I think it was a great sequence, where we see a new Theon (and obviously Alfie Allen’s superb performance). Yea I agree the end of the sequence could have been slightly better but overall I feel it was a nice introduction to the Ironborn Political culture

  • I accept the Arya healed storyline as she’s my favorite character and wanted her to live regardless. She and Sansa have taken a bit of the Lady Stoneheart story it seems and I want to see it. My most dreadful is Tyrion getting Missandei and Greyworn to tell jokes. It was maybe the worst writing next to the adorned storyline and wouldn’t be surprised if it were the same writer for both. “Let’s tell a Joke Really?

    • Well, Tyrion is a drunk. A relatively happy drunk and from my own personal experiences with people like that, they do try and get everyone else to join them. This scene is not just about telling jokes.
      It is also about the traumatic lives Grey Worm and Missandei have led that they never laugh, aren’t spontaneous at all and still obey the rules of the masters despite their freedom. Of course it was awkward, it should be…

  • I will just add I thought when Lady Crane told Arya of all her tales of stabbing past lovers and then healing them back, instead of Milk of the Poppy, she could have said here take this magical medicine I picked up in my travels in some far exotic City, it is what helped my lovers return to health. At least I would have something to believe.

  • Arya walking around all dressed up and not watching out for the waif was the dumbest thing for me. None of that made ANY sense!!

    • It did make sense, Ivy Moon. Some analysis of the Arya’s plan makes the Braavos scene quite reasonable, even clever. But directorial choices were counter-productive. The director could have made the time jump clearer. Crucially, he must have elicited Faye Marsay’s evil grin and Terminator-running style. They were off-putting.

      Griz–less than knowledge, more than a guess. Over six seasons, Arya was consistently very capable and flexible, especially when thinking on her feet. Her main failing was impulsiveness & poor strategic planning. But the FM taught her subterfuge, patience and planning. Book readers have long speculated if Arya would ever safely get away from the FM. This dilemma was suddenly urgent. She had to devise a way to avert the FM coming after her the rest of her life. In that light, her actions are logical.

      So what’s the background? While giving Arya her Lady Crane assassination assignment, Jaqen had warned Arya there would be no third chances. So once she decided not to kill LC, she knew she’d have to get the Faceless Men to allow her to leave. She surmised the Waif would be assigned to kill her and of course Arya knew the Waif’s strengths and weaknesses. As part of her plan, Arya was conspicuously parading around in order to lure the Waif, and even chose her own ground– a bridge where the Waif could come from only two directions and that would allow her to leap into the water if necessary. Probably her injuries were worse than she anticipated, so she had to somewhat recover before putting into action her plan to trap Waif in the dark room. Net result: lights out, Waif, and cheerio to the HoB&W.

  • I agree with the top two. Dorne was absolutely wasted. Can someone explain to me how it makes even a lick of sense that upon assassinating the Prince in his own palace, they weren’t all executed immediately? It’s not as if this were a throneroom coup by a rival lord. It was the prince’s brother’s ex-girlfriend and her bastard daughters. I didn’t know that was such a powerful position.

    Also, the thing with Arya getting a serious stabbing, getting nursed back to health by an actress, and then doing acrobatics was just ridiculous. They really couldn’t have scripted something less severe?

  • I dont know, Doran Martell killing was pretty ok, Trystane’s part was a little worst. But for me as non-reader Arya vs Terminator was much worse.

  • The Waif and Aryas rivalry was built up for two seasons, so not being able to see the final showdown was disappointing. The Blackfish also deserved to die on screen. Even, if like Priscila said, the Waif slipt and hit her head in the dark, it still seems incomplete without seeing it. The Martells deaths didn’t bother me nearly as much because the buildup wasn’t there, and the characters were pretty one dimensional.

    • It was the reverse for me. I’ve explained why I didn’t like the Martell deaths, but lemme talk for a second about why I wasn’t bothered by the offscreen deaths, particularly the Waif’s.

      I think you’re right, Bandit–the rivalry between Arya and the Waif was built up for a couple of seasons. But I don’t think we needed to see Arya actually stab her to death for that rivalry to be paid off. Arya won. She wasn’t as good a fighter as the Waif–we saw that when they sparred–but she outsmarted her by luring into a pitch-dark room and using her unique ability to fight blind. That was the payoff, that Arya outfoxed her enemy. That would be true whether or not we saw the killing blow or not. And obviously we couldn’t anyway, because the whole point was that it had to be too dark to see for Arya to win. I had zero problem with the Waif’s final moments. (I had problems with the chase scene leading up to them, but that’s another story.)

      I would have liked to see a snippet more of the Blackfish before he died–maybe him facing down a bunch of Lannister soldiers before the scene cut away–but I don’t see why he “deserved” to die onscreen. He wasn’t a character we knew well, and I don’t think seeing his death would have made it any more meaningful. But to each his own.

      • It wasn’t only Arya vs the Waif, or the Blackfish, I also set my expectations too high for the role of the Stark Direwolves. As far back as the first season, and in the books, I pictured them being onscreen as much as Daenerys dragons. (I am not giving up till the final scene final episode, though!) The show sometimes treats them as an afterthought, and I’m afraid one more Direwolf offscreen death will leave me as bewildered as the Waif when Arya turned out the lights!

        • I think we can all agree that we would LIKE to see more direwolf scenes in the show, and I am a little confused as to why they aren’t utilizing the wolf dreams that Arya has in the books (show hasn’t even MENTIONED Nymeria since episode 102), especially when they had a beautiful opportunity to when she was given Milk of the Poppy by Lady Crane. When that happened, I was sure that she would start dreaming for the first time since Ned died. She hasn’t slept properly since then, so she hasn’t dreamt. But here, she was put into a deep sleep for the first time in years… it would have made sense for this to be the moment she first dreams about Nymeria. But alas… D&D missed that opportunity. We’ll see if there’s a reason or not if and when they eventually do resolve the Nymeria thread.

          But anyway… to the point: The show doesn’t show the direwolves as often as we’d like, and probably as much as D&D would like as well, for a simple reason: They’re hard to film. The direwolves are played by real wolves, which they can’t have on set with the actors. They have to shoot the wolves separately on re-created sound stages in Alberta, Canada and then composite them into the shots. It’s difficult to get the wolves to do what they want them to do, so you can’t really have scenes where the direwolves are doing anything terribly specific or involved in the scenes. That’s why we usually just see them standing there or sitting around or just growling at camera and whatnot. Occasionally we see them jump across screen, which works well enough to show them tackling somebody. Beyond that, can’t do much with them. Fully CGI wolves would be expensive, drawing budget away from the dragons, which D&D must have made a judgment call on, deciding the dragons were ultimately more important.

          In season 1, the direwolves were small enough that they just used dogs for them, which are more trainable and safer to have on set. That’s why season 1 had the most direwolf scenes. But since then, they’ve gotten bigger in the story and matured, so they had to use real wolves and composite them in to make them look even bigger. If the show had more time and money, then I’m sure they would do more direwolf scenes and explore the connections more, but alas… it’s a tv show, not a Hollywood movie. We need to accept that some things just aren’t going to be possible at the level we would ideally like. It’s unfair to get mad at the showrunners for it. They’re doing the best they can with what’s possible.

          • If D&D feature the remaining direwolves significantly in one of the remaining seasons all will be forgiven! They are supposed to be the size of horses by now, and seeing them interact with one of the dragons (without either one dying) would be amazing!
            Scene:
            “The Night King and Jon are both injured but facing each other defiantly on the frozen battlefield. Each clenching weapons closely as they cautiously converge. Out from above behind the Night King, from the shadows of dragon wings, Nymeria drops down with jaws wide and consumes his upper torso, head and all! The false king is dead, long live the true king in the north! Drogon confidently lands beside his newest pack member, Nymeria.

  • 1. Dorne… Can you just imagine the awesomeness of alliance between Dany, Tyrion, Varys, Olenna and Doran… It would have been epic.

    2. Tyrion being completely irrelevant to the story of Season 6. If you had this season without him, everything would be the same. Which is crazy.

    3. Sansa not telling Jon about Vale army. It was pointless…

    4. BLACKFISH. Enough said.

    5. The connection between Ramsay and his dogs being more important than the one between Stark children and their direwolves.

    • “Tyrion being completely irrelevant to the story of Season 6. If you had this season without him, everything would be the same. Which is crazy.”

      Umm… nope. It’s true that this is the season where Tyrion had the least to do, but he did still affect the story in a few key ways.

      First, he fixes Meereen. As he says towards the end of the season, “The city is on the rise.” That’s thanks to him. AND, as he says, it’s the reason the slavers feel obligated to attack Meereen, because it’s proving that a former slave city doesn’t need slaves to succeed. Without him, the city most likely would have fallen into more and more chaos while Dany was gone, which would have made the slavers feel comfortable in their belief that slaves are necessary, and wouldn’t have felt the need to attack. They would have just stayed in Astapor and Yunkai and continued with business as usual. But because he made Meereen prosper, we get the attack sequence in episodes 8 and 9… which leads us to the next key way he affects the story…

      He talks Dany down from committing genocide. In response to the attack, she wanted to burn Astapor and Yunkai, killing all the slavers and making a huge step towards following her father down the road to madness. But Tyrion pulls her back. He convinces her to go with the wiser plan of just scaring the slavers into compliance. This, coupled with the fact that he handled Meereen well (for now at least… more on that in a bit) is what convinces Dany to fully accept him as her advisor and make him her Hand. That’s a pretty big development in his story (as well as in Dany’s) and sets up his role going forward.

      And finally… he gave power to the Lord of Light religion. This was no small element of the season, but it’s one that seems to get overlooked a lot. Remember what happened when Cersei enshrined a religion with power? Tyrion did the same thing in Meereen. Don’t be surprised if this turns out to be majorly important going forward.

      It was a down season for Tyrion, for sure. His storyline had a “Sitting on the bench for this shift.” feel to it. But there was some key developments and setup in there. It wasn’t JUST jokes and wine.

      And also… he had the scene with the dragons in episode 2, which is the reason they were able to break out of the pyramid in episode 9 when Dany summoned them. Small thing, I know, but still a bit of setup and payoff there. But aside from that… I think that scene with the dragons is a beautiful scene that I just wrote about in a comment on the “Best moment of season 6” article on this site… in short, I think it’s a perfect scene that’s one of the best in the whole show, and hints at some thematic meaning to Tyrion’s entire storyline. So there’s that.

      • Everything that Tyrion has done could have been done by someone else. We don’t know whether or how important his talk with dragons was, which is in line with many moments last year when some things happen for no reasonable explanations but to leave fans to fill in the gaps when needed (ahem, ahem, Sansa and Jon).

        You speak about Tyrion calmin the city and it being on the rise? Like Dany ironically said “on the rise?”, it is a questionable success, given that the peace he made resulted with occupation by Slavers. As we have seen in Episode 9, even the Sons of Harpy problem wasn’t solved until Dothraki slaughtered them. Nothing Tyrion did can be called fixing Meereen. It was Varys and exerted influence of Missandei and Grey Worm who convinced people that Tyrion rules in the name of Danerys.

        The story about her father could have been passed to Dany by anyone. Barristan, if he wasn’t killed. Jorah… Yes, he stopped her from going batshit crazy on Slavers, but it still doesn’t mean that Dany alone wouldn’t be able to control herself. She is rather aware of who her father was and what he was doing and she did show some restrain in the past.

        Tyrion giving power to Red Priests in Meereen ultimately meant nothing for the story, other than “giving peace”. And we do know why that peace was possible. Slavers were just buying time to actually attack Meereen and destroy it once and for all.

        In all sincerity, Tyrion has been a character who was brought down by the lack of original material. When we remember some legendary lines from the first several seasons and when we think of the “I drink and I know things”, simply the quality of writing for Tyrion has been severely affected by leaving him to D&D.

        I am not telling that he was completely irrelevant (as for one of the three major characters it would be quite the plot hole for him to be utterly useless) but the thing is that after watching Season 6, there is a feeling he actually did nothing. Which, ironically was the complaint TV viewers had on book Tyrion in “Dance with Dragons”.

        • “Everything that Tyrion has done could have been done by someone else.”

          Umm… ok? But it wasn’t.

          “You speak about Tyrion calmin the city and it being on the rise? Like Dany ironically said “on the rise?”, it is a questionable success, given that the peace he made resulted with occupation by Slavers.”

          The city IS on the rise, though. Considering where it was at the beginning of the season, Tyrion does in fact make the city’s economy better and bring peace to the city by episode 8. Yes, it’s a fragile peace, most likely, but the fact remains that Tyrion did improve the city. That’s not in question.

          Yes, Dany’s response of “The city is on the rise?” is funny in that moment, given that things looked bad at that particular moment, but as Tyrion goes on to explain, the city is in fact on the rise and that’s why the slavers attacked. Once the attack is dealt with and the slavers are no longer a threat… the city is back to being peaceful and on the rise once again. A temporary attack doesn’t undo everything Tyrion did.

          “It was Varys and exerted influence of Missandei and Grey Worm who convinced people that Tyrion rules in the name of Danerys.”

          Exactly, which is why Tyrion is then trusted by the people of the city from that point forward. It’s why he’s able to recruit the help of Kinvara, and it’s THAT move that actually brings the peace and prosperity that we see on display in episode 8 when Tyrion brags to Varys that “It worked.”

          “The story about her father could have been passed to Dany by anyone.”

          Again… ok. But it wasn’t. If you’re just going to use cop outs to dismiss the things Tyrion did just so you can stubbornly insist that he did nothing… then you’re being ridiculous.

          “Tyrion giving power to Red Priests in Meereen ultimately meant nothing for the story, other than “giving peace”.”

          Hold that thought, though. As I said, it is most likely set up for the story going forward. Don’t be surprised if the Lord of Light religion plays a major role in what happens in the final 2 seasons, and their influence taking hold in Meereen, thanks to Tyrion, will be a major factor in that. For better or worse… we’ll see how it goes.

          “And we do know why that peace was possible. Slavers were just buying time to actually attack Meereen and destroy it once and for all.”

          Perhaps that was indeed their plan. But that’s not why commerce returned to the markets and the people of Meereen were with Daenarys, as Tyrion says. That was due to Tyrion’s move of empowering Kinvara to influence the people. This continued to be true once the attack was over, showing that it was in no way just a trick being done by the slavers and/or the Sons of the Harpy. It was a genuine peace that just got temporarily interrupted by the attack.

          “Tyrion has been a character who was brought down by the lack of original material. When we remember some legendary lines from the first several seasons and when we think of the “I drink and I know things”, simply the quality of writing for Tyrion has been severely affected by leaving him to D&D.”

          Look, I can’t argue with the notion that D&D aren’t as good writers as Martin is. They aren’t. Most writers aren’t. But in the grand scheme of things. they’re pretty damn good. Not being as good as a genius like Martin doesn’t make you automatically bad. Seasons 5 and 6 may be missing that certain something that Martin’s direct influence gave the first 4 seasons, but if you actually stand back from this for a moment and think about the general level of quality of writing that we see in television and movies these days… seasons 5 and 6 of Game of Thrones are still exceptionally good. Have a little perspective, please.

          Just because Tyrion isn’t the same Tyrion he used to be, it doesn’t mean it’s bad writing. He HAS changed since killing Shae and his father. He does have a bit of melancholy about him that he didn’t have before. He’s not as upbeat or witty. That makes sense to me. An experience like he went through in season 4 changes a person. It feels natural, IMO. But even still, he makes some wise statements. One of my favourite lines of his in the whole series came in episode 9 of season 5, when he said to Hizdar, “It’s easy to confuse the way things are with the way things ought to be.” That’s something a lot of conservative-minded folk need to learn. And his conversation with Dany in episode 9 of season 6, when he convinces her not to burn the slave cities, felt like classic Tyrion to me. Him standing up for the wiser course of action in a convincing way and reeling off an interesting speech that includes some nuggets of info (the wildfire that is most likely still hidden under the Red Keep… don’t be surprised if that was a significant set up for season 7 and/or 8).

          “the thing is that after watching Season 6, there is a feeling he actually did nothing. Which, ironically was the complaint TV viewers had on book Tyrion in “Dance with Dragons”.”

          Then perhaps it wasn’t D&D’s fault? Maybe Tyrion really just doesn’t have that much to do in this particular stage of the story. Much like how he really didn’t have that much to do in season 3 either, aside from manage the finances and get married (and drunk). In fact, I’d say he had even LESS to do in season 3 than he did in season 6 and had even less of an impact on the story. BUT it was set up for season 4. Like I’ve said, I think some of the things he did and said in season 6 will have an effect going forward. We don’t have the whole story yet. Be patient.

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