Oathkeeper breaks Game of Thrones series record in viewers
By Hear Me Roar on in News.
Let me tell you a bed-time story of 7 million viewers.

Let me tell you a bed-time story of 7 million viewers. It may come true, you never know.

The news broke a bit later than usual this Monday (hey, we cannot complain, we used to have to wait until Tuesday each week for some numbers most of the time), but boy is it a big one. Who else but Hibberd from EW reveals some choice number nuggets, the crown of which is Game of Thrones all-time high reached by episode 404: 6.9 million viewers for the original showing! A nice step up from 6.59m last week. The repeat brought the total for the night to 8.4 million.

Hear Me Roar: Is there still anyone who does not think we are reaching 7 million soon?


77 Comments

  1. Mark Agius
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Wow, those numbers!

  2. Turncloak
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Very supposed considering all the book readers who said they would drop the series after last week’s episode. Just goes to show you that being an ASOIAF fan is not a choice but a lifestyle :p

  3. Ludo
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Masha Heddle would like to have so many customers in her inn.

  4. Matt Sinopoli
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Wow. A lot of people were saying that the ratings would suffer after last week’s controversy… guess not.

  5. Veltigar
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    I think that I’ll watch this episode again. It was just so good.

    Johnny English: All right, so I was wrong about the Archbishop’s bottom. But casting Mads Mikkelsen as Euron is the only sensible thing to do

  6. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    I think it’s safe to say that HBO is having one of its best years in quite a while right now, both in terms of quantity and quality, and luckily for them that’s paying off in the ratings game (not that they care all that much about initial airing numbers, but still…).

    Well deserved, I’d say.

  7. Butterbumps
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Matt Sinopoli,

    We all know controversies sell papers.

  8. Shaldun
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Matt Sinopoli,

    Controversy is always increasing the hype for something than the opposite. 7 millions next week, there has been some big scene at the end of this one that can attract people + the “controversy” of the show spoiling the books + an eventual reunion of Starks (Bran and Jon) : all is enough to do 0.1 million more.

  9. SerPounce
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Most of the ratings were for ser pounce lets be honest.. but no seriously this is the best show on television if you’re not watching you’re missing out and last night’s episode was top quality

  10. Interior Bannisters
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Honestly the show is getting better and better.
    Despite the sept fiasco, this will be a tough season to beat.

  11. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    SerPounce,

    The show will reap the benefits of Ser Pounce’s arrival next week. Just you wait and see.

  12. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    I think the ratings are rising because after the RW and then the PW people are realizing that the internet will not let a person go unspoiled. Watching the first airing of GoT is not optional. Mad Men must wait, Cosmos must wait, whatever sporting event is on must wait, friend and familial obligations must come in second. Here’s hoping that 7 million mark happens next weekend.

  13. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Ned’s death three years ago was supposed to finally have a negative effect on viewership this week. Odd.

  14. Arthur
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Wow…

    These ratings are getting pretty ridiculous!

    GoT has reached Leviathan levels on all fronts.

    Its really good news for all adult fantasy fans because if these numbers (in all senses including merchandize, DVD sales, HBO subscriptions and media buzz) don’t really start turning heads and getting attention from all TV/Movie platforms than the people getting paid to gauge this kind of thing aren’t doing their jobs.

    GoT, 15years from now, will be known as the trailblazer that gave rise to the X, Y and Z fantasy series on yadda channel. (Know what I mean?)

    Anyway, great news! I just hope GoT has proven to the naysayers that adult fantasy does indeed have a huge market just waiting to be tapped into and we get more Game of Throneslike fantasy/drama and/or movie franchises coming our way.

  15. jentario
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Veltigar:
    I think that I’ll watch this episode again. It was just so good.

    Dude. It was fucking amazing. That ending. That fucking ending! More White Walker payoff than GRRM has managed in 5 fucking books! EPIC! Cogman, you are a beast. Visual designers, you are beasts! That was just so cold and beautiful and terrifying HOLY SHITE!

  16. Hoss
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    you r 100% correct!

  17. WompWomp
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    jentario,

    For real, though in all fairness, it was probably never an option for GRRM to write a POV chapter from the perspective of a freezing baby. A hypothetical excerpt:

    THE BABE IN THE NORTH

    Waaaa. Waaaaaaa! Waaaaaaaa…

    Translation: Brrrrr. Booooob! Brrrrrrr…

  18. Ours is the Fury
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Wow, fantastic ratings!

  19. Steven Swanson
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Matt Sinopoli:
    Wow. A lot of people were saying that the ratings would suffer after last week’s controversy… guess not.

    A lot of people have absolutely no idea how controversy works. That was a whole lot of free publicity for the show.

  20. Sansa's Knight
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    I think we’re soon gonna get a different kind of “WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS” I mean seriously I need to go back to the books … Where are they?

    On a side note I’m still hoping for an undead dragon in the future … That wud be epic …

  21. Kieran E
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    I guess I’ll be a contrarian and say 7 million is not on the horizon, but though I thought even after the first episode that was not going to be attained, it seems silly to deny it now. The show’s not necessarily getting better and better, I think Season 2 remains my favourite overall, but it does still seem to have found a comfortable groove and more comfort in how to structure each episode, and people are still pouring in.

  22. Brad Villane
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    Knowing what’s ahead for this season’s finale… I bet that ratings hit an all time high for the Season 5 premiere. Hard to say after that…Season 5 is going to be a much tougher nut to crack than any of the previous seasons. The number of story strands to follow will almost double! I’ve got full faith in the writers though and I imagine they will make the changes that need to be made.

  23. Matt Sinopoli
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Kieran E:
    I guess I’ll be a contrarian and say 7 million is not on the horizon, but though I thought even after the first episode that was not going to be attained, it seems silly to deny it now. The show’s not necessarily getting better and better, I think Season 2 remains my favourite overall, but it does still seem to have found a comfortable groove and more comfort in how to structure each episode, and people are still pouring in.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if theres a slight dip next week but then another big jump after the Mountain/Red Viper fight in episode 8 that will continue to rise the rest of the season. I think they are definitely going to hit 7+ million this season.

  24. Pau Soriano
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak:
    Very supposed considering all the book readers who said they would drop the series after last week’s episode. Just goes to show you that being an ASOIAF fan is not a choice but a lifestyle :p

    Why do you keep on shitting on book readers?? If you check the poll over at westeros for episode 4 the 3 highest marks are

    1- 9 with 33% of the votes
    2- 10 with 20% of the votes
    3- 8 with 19% of the votes

    Only less than 10% of the people gave it a 1, 2, 3 OR 4!!

  25. Clob
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Fantastic! To infinity an…

    I’m starting to think that the success of GoT and all that they’ve been allowed to do is being noticed by the other cable networks and a couple seem to be doing what they can to glob on to the coat tails. Starz had that absolute crapper (imo) in Camelot that started around when GoT did. That was no contest – vastly inferior. However, Da Vinci’s Demons is actually a pretty solid show and the current second season is delving quite a bit more into fantasy. The Vikings series on HISTORY is also fairly well done to bring more sword & shield to programming. They are both of course smaller in scope, not as “grand,” but pretty good series in their own way and nice weekly fillers between GoT episodes.

  26. The Bastard
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Winter is truly coming. So are the fans apparently.

    As a fan of HBO’s Carnivale, it is nice to see a show I love get great ratings and know there will be more seasons.

  27. Interior Bannisters
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano: Why do you keep on shitting on book readers?? If you check the poll over at westeros for episode 4 the 3 highest marks are

    1- 9 with 33% of the votes
    2- 10 with 20% of the votes
    3-8 with 19% of the votes

    Only less than 10% of the people gave it a 1, 2, 3 OR 4!!

    Because the few who are angry are VERY VERY VERY loud lol

  28. chamush
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    All men must pounce!

    HBO, where’s my motherf#$@ing money??

    I have introduced this show to at least 4-5 other human beings who now watch it like lunatics!

    I should have a share in this!!! Send the check…. although…. I am pretty certain they all pirate it!

  29. Mimsy
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    This is what happens when direwolves make an appearance.. rates go ^.

    GOT has trained me well. I seriously thought one of the Reeds was gonna get it this week and what the heck is happening to Jojen? I think he has a reveal coming for Bran.

    Another GREAT episode deserves fabulous ratings.

  30. Braavosi Bitcoiner
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    I hope they come up with a good reason on how they got Ghost in a cage.

  31. patchface
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    That’s what happens when you introduce an awesome new character such as Ser Pounce.

  32. Mark
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    Braavosi Bitcoiner:
    I hope they come up with a good reason on how they got Ghost in a cage.

    I think Ghost has been in that cage since they were at Craster’s in the middle of last season – I think he made Jon do that. I am bummed that Jon hasn’t mentioned Ghost being missing – I know the show doesn’t have a lot of extra time but the Stark/Direwolf relationship isn’t as strong as it should be. Stupid CGI costs.

  33. Braavosi Bitcoiner
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    Mark,

    Ghost went with John on the Halfhand mission. Then Ghost walked away. Which episode did Ghost walk back to Craster’s? And even if, who besides maybe Samwell would Ghost listen to?

  34. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Braavosi Bitcoiner,

    Ghost was there when the men of the NW retreated from the Fist of the First Men to Craster’s. I’m assuming they caught him the same way they caught Summer, with that trap, which I guess could have been a way to guard against wights.

  35. Pau Soriano
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Mark: I think Ghost has been in that cage since they were at Craster’s in the middle of last season – I think he made Jon do that.I am bummed that Jon hasn’t mentioned Ghost being missing – I know the show doesn’t have a lot of extra time but the Stark/Direwolf relationship isn’t as strong as it should be.Stupid CGI costs.

    Lol no…Ghost appears in the show mant times after that

  36. Braavosi Bitcoiner
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Oh right. Forgot Ghost saves Sam’s ass in Season 3 ep 1.

  37. GG
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    What’s the all-time HBO record again?

  38. Alan Lovejoy
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    My fear is that, just like what happened in the wake of the initial Star Wars movie, what we’ll mostly get is a flood of very bad imitations by those who don’t understand why #GameOfThrones became so popular. Hint: It’s more than just because it’s a fantasy.

  39. WompWomp
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Kieran E,

    Interesting. I maintain that S2 is the weakest yet. Dany’s storyline alone was a considerable black eye.

    Alan Lovejoy,

    “It’s the boobs, right? It’s gotta be all the boobs. Let’s add that to the checklist. Oh, and dragons too. How do we feel about dragons with boobs? Too much?”

  40. jentario
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    I don’t get why this episode is so controversial. Except for THAT scene. Also, apparently the King of the White Walkers might be the Night’s King (though it could have been a typo or some fuck up in the guy who wrote the recap for HBO). Either way, this is the last we’ll see of the White Walkers this season so savor it well. I am not sure how much they’ll show of them in season 5, but the fact that they went this far in season 4 is alarming and essentially opens up a lot of possibilities. Maybe we WILL see more of Hardhome than in the books.

  41. WompWomp
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Yes, someone on the latest GOO thread did, but I don’t think everyone has seen it yet.

  42. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    I still can’t decide if those are horns on his head or a crown. It is part of his body, but over time the crown could have molded/frozen into it’s skin. I sort of hope it is a crown.

  43. House Mormont
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    OH MY GOD

  44. Braavosi Bitcoiner
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    It’s totally a crown! Doesn’t matter if it grew out of him or an actual crown frozen/fused over time, it’s a wicked crown!

  45. House Mormont
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    Braavosi Bitcoiner,

    They are obviously Tyrell thorns. Definitely the Queen of Thorns’ ally, maybe Lord Luthar (sarcasm)

  46. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Greenjones,

    Great pic. Thx. Do you think the outfit is somewhat derived from the Night’s Watch garb? :) I don’t believe that’s a crown on his head….these beings are significantly different from WWs.

    Look at MM take charge! Love this stuff.

    GoT is steamrolling right along….

  47. Locke's beard
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    I’m changing my name to reflect the true star of the show. This is why we’re almost at 7 million.

  48. Sunfyre
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Not sure if somebody already linked the whole blog post but it is pretty interesting reading:

    http://www.glacialart.com/game-of-thrones-call-on-glacial-art/

    The sheer amount of care and detail which goes into every aspect of GOT is phenomenal. We are pretty dang lucky as a fanbase to have received an adaptation with such a high standard of quality.

  49. Dogs
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Sunfyre,

    Not to mention they refer to the white walker as “the King of the White Walkers.” Considering they were on set and probably understood what was happening in the scene from the crew, the reference probably confirms that we can call this white walker dude “the Night’s King” and also that HBO really screwed up with that Viewer’s Guide synopsis spoiler.

  50. Locke's beard
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    Joanna Lumley for Galazza Galore! I’m starting my campaign now.

  51. Levi Agee
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    The trap is definitely how they got Ghost

  52. tdraicer
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    I’m not surprised, since I suspect the negative reaction to “the scene” in episode 3 is/was confined to a distinct minority of (very vocal) viewers: mostly book readers, who were apparently too turned on by the scene in the book to notice how much more objectionable from a feminist pov it is than the version in the show, and professional critics who felt the need to make sure no one thinks they like rape.

    Interestingly the Washington Post’s Ms. Rosenberg, who I thought grabbed the wrong end of the stick last week, seems to have had second thoughts, and I found her very much on target this week.

  53. Braavosi Bitcoiner
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    in the book to notice how much more objectionable from a feminist pov it is than the version in the show,

    Can you please explain it to me? I am neither female nor feminist.
    I read the books and watch the show.

  54. StrokemeMarg
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    I predict a bump to over 7 million next week, after all the WD fans hear about another WW Zombie appearance they will flock to the show.

  55. Lady Wolfsbane
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Braavosi Bitcoiner,

    Hmmmmm.. I’m not a feminist but I’m female so think I can answer your question.

    The increase of sexual violence has been rather constant on the show. I PERSONALLY don’t mind violence OR sex added to the show… I love it but I like my stuff separate. when you take TWO consensual sex scenes from the books and make them rape, add some bondage with Theon and Gendry.. take some whores and Craster’s wives and beat them up and kill one… you get the idea. There was a lot less sexual violence in scenes in the books than in the show, and it’s soured the show a lot for me. But… there’s other NICE things about the show…. so grrrr whatcha gonna do…

  56. Braavosi Bitcoiner
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Lady Wolfsbane,

    Okay. I can see that.
    But I also see it as an editing technique. Sort of. There isn’t enough budget to show all the sex and all the violence so they combine some things. I like to look at it as the show and the books are baking separate loaves of bread using the same exact ingredients but shaping their loaves differently.

  57. Monica
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    The rapefest at Craster’s keep was canon.

    What I would have liked to see was that it was Craster’s wives who got rid of the renegades. They got rid of the lowlifes without Jon Snow’s help. Female empowerment!

    Great episode! I was on the edge of my seat. 7 million is a given.

  58. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    Arthur:
    GoT, 15years from now, will be known as the trailblazer that gave rise to the X, Y and Z fantasy series on yadda channel. (Know what I mean?)

    Anyway, great news!I just hope GoT has proven to the naysayers that adult fantasy does indeed have a huge market just waiting to be tapped into and we get more Game of Thrones like fantasy/drama and/or movie franchises coming our way.

    I don’t know too many naysayers these days. Curiosity is ramping up quite quickly.

    Hopefully, GoT enables the networks to take more risks. There will be surprising hits and awful misses. I rather enjoy the variety that is on TV right now (The Americans, Orphan Black, Grimm top my list along with GoT) and I love how the traditional networks are increasingly challenged by other media outlets.

    In any case, escape is good these days. All I want to do after reading the e-paper or watching the nightly news is scream. Reality is so much harsher than fiction.

  59. John M W
    Posted April 28, 2014 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    tdraicer:
    Interestingly the Washington Post’s Ms. Rosenberg, who I thought grabbed the wrong end of the stick last week, seems to have had second thoughts, and I found her very much on target this week.

    Her thoughts are indeed spot on – especially with regard to what Jaime’s thinking in his scene with Brienne. NCW plays that brilliantly.

    It’s amazing to me how many people have said the sept scene was forgotten about this week. The fallout is right there in those scenes, bubbling under the surface. B. Cogman even said in his HBO.com interview, that the subtext of the Jaime/Cersei scene this week was all about the sept.

  60. tdraicer
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 2:05 am | Permalink

    >Can you please explain it to me? I am neither female nor feminist.
    I read the books and watch the show.

    In the book she initially resists even more than she did in the show, but then gets into it, which validates the old “no really means yes if you just push it far enough” whereas in the show no becomes “It isn’t right.” Granted, she is talking about the time and place more than the act (in neither version does she strongly resist) but that ought to be thought of as less objectionable than the book version. It certainly, imo is more realistic.

    Instead I keep reading that the book was hot consenting sex and the hbo scene was brutal rape, and neither statement is accurate: the scene in the book did not start with consent, and the scene on tv was not “brutal” (he uses minimum force and she half-heartedly resists).

    But in saying those who are defending Martin while attacking the show are being either blind or hypocritical, my point is not to reverse that to attack Martin and defend the show. I think both versions are valid depending on what you are trying to say about these characters. My real point is that trying to fit the twisted relationship and damaged psyches of these characters into the confines of a debate on the definition of rape, as if we are judging a court case instead of examining a work of art, is truly to miss the dramatic forest for the ideological trees.

    I understand that the fact men who are obviously guilty still get off for rape, and insane judges still blame the victim is a real problem, but that isn’t a problem that is going to be solved (or made worse) by Game of Thrones. (If you want to fight the culture of rape, start with middle school boys athletic programs and work up from there).

    I also understand the demand for a clear line in the sand and “rape is rape.” But in fact, this show (and all great drama) isn’t about clear lines, it is about shades of gray, and while it rightly shows sexual violence as rampant in a time war and lawlessness (which I think is a brave and ultimately ethical thing to do; depicting rape as common and awful is not approving it, it is refusing to pretend it is a minor side issue) it is more interested in examining its main characters than judging them.

    I think Jamie’s losing control and her semi-resistance morphing into resignation is certainly not more objectionable than her chest-pounding Nos morphing into hot consenting sex. And I think her distance from him in Oathbreaker, and his attempt to ignore what happened between them (though his guilt clearly prompts some of his nobler behavior this episode) are both in character (in terms of their development on the show) and that demands that the rape be addressed directly are putting making a statement above the demands of character. And I object to trying to confine drama within any ideological bounds, even those I share.

    Finally, terrible as rape is, many of the comments on this subject basically demand we consider rape THE most terrible thing, unintentionally mirroring the patriarchal view of rape as “a fate worse than death”. And if we don’t agree we are implicitly (or explicitly) pro-rape. Well, sorry, if you can forgive Jamie for crippling a child he was trying to kill to protect his life of incest, but find his losing control for a few minutes with his incestuous lover (after she just demanded he kill their brother) beyond the pale, well, I do find that passing strange.

    But I recognize people will disagree. Fine. I just don’t like the assumption in too many things I read that there is only one valid way to view the last two episodes, and those of us who don’t see the sept scene as “a debacle” are unconcerned with violence against women, or don’t understand how the change has undermined the show. Neither assumption is justified: we just disagree.

  61. Harry
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 2:25 am | Permalink

    tdraicer,

    Honestly, you need to learn to give a s*** about what others think.

    Peope of different views on any matter (especially in the internet) have and will always accuse you of having a totally opposite opinion if it fits their ascpect and to gain the support of others.

    That’s just the way things are.

  62. hey now
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 3:38 am | Permalink

    Matt Sinopoli:
    Wow. A lot of people were saying that the ratings would suffer after last week’s controversy… guess not.

    Lots of people complain about fictional creations they have no control over. Lots of cunts.

  63. JamesL
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 5:38 am | Permalink

    Lady Wolfsbane,

    These books are filled with rape, threats of rape, and stories of rape. It is just more shocking to see it on film but there is definitively not more of it in the show. I’m surprised how many book readers actually think this.

  64. vlad
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 6:10 am | Permalink

    Wow, and these are the weakest episodes. 8,9 and 10 will be incredible. Of course this doesn’t mean the number of viewers matches quality. If episodes 6 and 7 don’t please the watchers, the total number might go down. It happened last seasons. Besides there’s that holiday in USA, where all tv shows stop playing, a 2 week break can hurt total no. Having said that, we’re breaking 7 million without a doubt.

  65. wizardeyes
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 6:43 am | Permalink

    Monica,

    That would just be unrealistic. They have no weapons or fighting skills and have been sheltered and controlled by Craster for so long they don’t know anything. If they were wildlings like Ygritte – then the mutineers would be screwed.

  66. OldeCrone
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    SerPounce:
    Most of the ratings were for ser pounce lets be honest.. but no seriously this is the best show on television if you’re not watching you’re missing out and last night’s episode was top quality

    I know you are “having a laugh” but Ser Pounce – or what Tommen said – helped remind folk just how unpleasant Joffrey was (though I guess it’s not easily forgotten), and show that Tommen has a different personality.

    Clob: Fantastic! To infinity an…
    I’m starting to think that the success of GoT and all that they’ve been allowed to do is being noticed by the other cable networks and a couple seem to be doing what they can to glob on to the coat tails. Starz had that absolute crapper (imo) in Camelot that started around when GoT did.

    I’m glad I’m not the only person who thought that. To be fair the timing for that show might have been bad (the Beeb’s “Merlin” for the kiddywinks was still showing – might have been better if the “Camelot” people had left it a few years until “Merlin” had finished). Eva Green’s French accent annoyed me too. She is an attractive lass and normally a slight foreign accent wouldn’t bother me but she was supposed to be playing a Celtic princess…..though to be honest I’ve seen some trailers for a forthcoming show “Penny Dreadful” in which she features and the French accent is far less noticeable. I hope if networks do climb on the GoT bandwagon they don’t try to make a carbon copy of GoT. “Once Upon a Time” as I’ve said before irritates me – partly because the show-runners (IMHO) seem to have an “oh aren’t we clever” attitude” to re-telling the stories (and the whiny boy gets on my tonsils too) and the Beeb’s “Atlantis” is a bit wishy-washy, though they are trying to recreate “Merlin” in ancient Greece rather than model the tale on GoT.

  67. Carne
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 8:05 am | Permalink
  68. GeekFurious
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    Matt Sinopoli:
    Wow. A lot of people were saying that the ratings would suffer after last week’s controversy… guess not.

    Controversy helps drive interest. Though, most of the controversy was just within the online fandom circle. I doubt many unsullied (who don’t go to online discussions) even blinked at the “rape”. Didn’t hear a peep out of any of my real world friends about it.

  69. Lady Wolfsbane
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    JamesL,

    Nah.. still not following you. There’s consensual sex that is removed form the books to add rape. It’s pretty clear cut. Some of it seemed ill-fitting and off, but the only scene that bothered me was the Sept scene, as it altered a major character. But you can’t deny that the show isn’t tying to alter the books for MORE sexual violence – it’s not a context/medium thing…

  70. Dnis
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Lady Wolfsbane,

    You do realize that there have been (at least) several rapes in the books that haven’t made it to show (and perhaps never will)? Lollys, Lady Hornwood, Ramsay’s bitches, Ramsay’s conception story, the mess at Harrenhal, etc. That’s why it’s hard to take seriously the claim that the show is ramping up the sexual violence.

  71. MikeFromBraavos
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    The guy in that pic is a White Walker, not a different being.

    The official synopsis calls the guy who touched the baby a White Walker.
    http://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/episodes/4/34-oathkeeper/synopsis.html#/

    The ice guy that was on the set for 2 days referred to them as White Walkers.
    http://www.glacialart.com/game-of-thrones-call-on-glacial-art/

    DB Weiss in the audio commentary from the first season explains that they call “The Others” only “White Walkers” in the show b/c of the confusion with the word “other”.
    http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Others#TV_series

    What more proof do you need that White Walkers = The Others?

  72. Pau Soriano
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Lady Wolfsbane:
    JamesL,

    Nah.. still not following you. There’s consensual sex that is removed form the books to add rape. It’s pretty clear cut. Some of it seemed ill-fitting and off, but the only scene that bothered me was the Sept scene, as it altered a major character. But you can’t deny that the show isn’t tying to alter the books for MORE sexual violence – it’s not a context/medium thing…

    Actually the creators of the show toned Craster’s Keep scene down form what Michelle Mclaren (a female director btw) had done, according to the director of photography of the episode…

  73. commenter
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t know where to put this speculation, but wanted an opinion. Now that the series is changing directions further away from the books and minimizing the cast I thought of a couple major changes I think the show will make: I think they will do away with Aegon completely and use Dany in his place with Barristan in place of JonCon (getting her to Westeros sooner maybe even Season 5) and I think that Victarion and Euron will be morphed into 1 character. Any thoughts/opinions?

  74. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted April 29, 2014 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    MikeFromBraavos,

    Thx for the references. Yeah, I know I’m in the minority…but I’m not wrong from a lore perspective, which is what matters to me. I’m not being a purist, it just makes more sense that the WWs serve something bigger and wiser. Even the outfits and facial features are very different.

    A former Night’s Watch Lord Commander (like BR) disappeared north of the Wall and found carnal relations with a “female” WW many millenia ago. He became the Night’s King. That’s all we really know…are they related to the Andals, the CotF or Valyria? We don’t know.

  75. Superdeluxe
    Posted April 30, 2014 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Numbers go up after all the rage/quit tweets/posts I saw from Book Readers.

    Very Nice.

  76. TastesLikeTheSea
    Posted April 30, 2014 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    GOT boosts Time Warner’s profits:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27228679


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