Casting for season three begins
By Winter Is Coming on in Casting, Rumors.

We have heard that the casting for season three began today. Auditions were held this morning in London. We don’t, however, know which role or roles they were auditioning for. As usual, the whole thing is very top secret. If anyone has any info they’d be willing to share, please drop us a line!

One casting rumor we just heard comes from @JonasRJakobsen, who tweeted to us, “I was told by an agent that Norwegian actor Kristofer Hivju is auditioning for an unknown role.” It’s gotta be Tormund Giantsbane, right? I mean, look at him!

UPDATE: Another rumor: according to commenter Draig, they are casting Shireen Baratheon. They are looking for an 11-year old girl. Hundreds of young actresses have already been seen. Auditions happened in London about two weeks ago, recalls to come.

UPDATE 2: Another role that is rumored to be currently casting is Daario Naharis. And, according to someone who has seen the casting breakdown, the producers are looking for “any ethnicity, except Caucasian”.


626 Comments

  1. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    will we get red viper season 3?

  2. Lars
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Kingthlayer:
    will we get red viper season 3?

    Doubtful. There is no need for him until season 4 – but it depends where they shuffle ASOS plot threads for the season 3 end.

  3. Arvin
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    The late coming of Blackfish? At least the hair color matches his. :o

  4. serum
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Daniel Day Lewis = Mance Rayder….its a long shot but heres to hoping!!!

  5. Maria Batsiou
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Any chance they cast the Reeds (Meera at least) for season 3?

  6. The Rabbit
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    This guy is Tormund!

    btw, a couple of days ago over at Westeros forums, someone vaguley mentioned that the casting of Daario is underway.

  7. AlexBaratheon
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Question. It may be a spoiler so I will block it Do you guys think they will CGI the giants or cast really huge actors??

  8. fuelpagan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    He looks like a Beric Dondarrion to me. If they are planning on recasting the role that is.

  9. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Lars: Doubtful. There is no need for him until season 4 – but it depends where they shuffle ASOS plot threads for the season 3 end.

    I hope they bring the Dornish in earlier than later – it will mean less explaining later. I will be interested to see how they go about explaining the situation…it seems like it could be potentially confusing and viewers might see the relationship as a little phoned in/left field. love me some red viper. I actually love the Dornish plot lines (unlike many). They are just badass: Darkstar, Red Viper, Sand Snakes…

  10. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Michael Fassbender as Mance . I know it’s pretty impossible with how huge he is in movie roles now but he has worked with Nina Gold before in Jane Eyre so who knows .

  11. Vikestad
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Lol. I know that guy. Can almost guarantee it’s a wildling role. If not, he will be an ironborn

  12. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Red Viper = Oded Fehr !
    Crows Eye = James Purefoy
    Victarion Greyjoy = Ray Stevenson
    Queen Of Thorns = Maggie Smith
    Edmure Tully = David Wenham or Damian Lewis
    Tormund Giantsbane = Ken Stott
    Mance Rayder = Henry Ian Cusick
    The Reeds = Merged into Osha (sorry I don’t care for them)

  13. Arvin
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    AlexBaratheon,

    Good luck finding 10 ft actors. lol

  14. morbiczer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Maria Batsiou:
    Any chance they cast the Reeds (Meera at least) for season 3?

    There is certainly a chance. Unless they change the plot significantly, they will have to split Bran and Rickon. And if Osha goes with Rickon, they need somebody to help Bran get North. Osha could stay with Bran I guess, but then Rickon needs company.

  15. Barbarossa
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    L
    Vikestad,

    Vikestad:
    Lol. I know that guy. Can almost guarantee it’s a wildling role. If not, he will be an ironborn

    Vikestad:
    Lol. I know that guy. Can almost guarantee it’s a wildling role. If not, he will be an ironborn

    Huh, i could see him as Victarion, though the accent could be a problem…

  16. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Just bring conan back for the mountain… i dont like skinny gregor

  17. Arvin
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    morbiczer,

    Hey, have you forgotten they have Ros to rely on? Imagine all those epic stories she could tell Bran.

  18. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer:
    Red Viper = Daniel Day Lewis
    Crows Eye = Daniel Day Lewis
    Victarion Greyjoy = Daniel Day Lewis
    Queen Of Thorns = Daniel Day Lewis
    Edmure Tully = Daniel Day Lewis
    Torman Giantsbane = Ron Perlman
    Mance Rayder = Daniel Day Lewis
    The Reeds = Daniel Day Lewis & Ron Perlman

    Fixed that for you

  19. AlexBaratheon
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Arvin,

    good point lol

  20. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Damryn of Dorne,

    Agreed that was a horrible decision to recast The Mountain.

  21. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    Well it’s not like they recasted him for no reason .

  22. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Kingthlayer,

    Are you trying to turn Daniel into Eddie Murphy ;-p

  23. morbiczer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer:
    Damryn of Dorne,

    Agreed that was a horrible decision to recast The Mountain.

    Others will correct me if I am wrong, but AFAIK they had no choice. The old Mountain didn’t want to continue.

  24. fuelpagan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit: btw, a couple of days ago over at Westeros forums, someone vaguley mentioned that the casting of Daario is underway.

    LOL. Love it if this is true.

    Cut the Blackfish and Edmure and Reeds, but they keep Daario. I wonder why?

    I kept trying to tell those guys on that forum there is more to Daario and George is being coy with him for a reason . He will be important later in story. But they just wouldn’t listen to me.

  25. Maxwell James
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Maybe Conan can come back as Wun Wun.

  26. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Lets be real here, is it really possible to acquire Perlman for Giantsbane ? wouldn’t his fee and Sons Of Anarchy schedule cause issues ?

  27. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    Everyday, in every way

  28. Arvin
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan,
    Are you implying that George has a more important roll intented for the redheaded whore in Winterfell, only because she was cast by the production?

  29. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    AlexBaratheon: Question. It may be a spoiler so I will block it Do you guys think they will CGI the giants or cast really huge actors??

    They’re in contract negotiations with some sasquatches as we speak.

  30. Maria Batsiou
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    I doubt they cast Oberyn next Season. This character is going to be introduced in Season 4 ! Oded Fehr would be a dream casting!

    Nevertheless,i lose hope about my beloved Reeds since Bran asked Osha about the 3-eyed crow in the previous episode and she seemed to know a lot!

  31. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Rickard Karstark or will he feature in this season ?

  32. Blackfish
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    AlexBaratheon:
    Question. It may be a spoiler so I will block it Do you guys think they will CGI the giantsor cast really huge actors??

    I think it will be like the direwolves where they film the actors then using computer magic to impose them on screen as larger versions.

  33. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    morbiczer: Others will correct me if I am wrong, but AFAIK they had no choice. The old Mountain didn’t want to continue.

    I’m going to throw my 2 cents into the Mountain discussion. From the way Conan described it I don’t think it was necessarily his choice or HBO’s really. I believe that HBO wanted him back and he most likely said “great but I’m only available for the month of June and then I have to work on the Hobbit and they won’t budge on the schedule” and then HBO was all “well that doesn’t work” so how about we recast the role for this season and film it in a way that the Mountain isn’t really on screen that much and you cant really get a good look at him so that way you can come back for season 3 if your schedule permits”. To that Conan replied “that sucks but ok”.

    This would explain Conan’s comment that “HBO decided to go in another direction”, which would be true in my hypothesis and would also explain that it is because of other roles that he could not commit. This scenario is the only way I see all the comments from Conan and HBO about it making sense. Conan’s comments sounded frustrated but not furious and he is certainly willing to come back. You will also notice that they have not been showing the Mountain very clearly or for very long at all this season.

    If there is other evidence that rules my theory out than let me know but I like it anyway so that’s nice :)

  34. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Wun Wun = Nikolai Valuev or Khali

  35. Maria Batsiou
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Kingthlayer i agree with you! The new Mountain wearing his helmet looks like the old one from Season 1! Conan was ideal for me for this role!

  36. morbiczer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Kingthlayer,

    Sounds good. The Mountain shouldn’t have much screen time this season anyway. His big scenes come next season Really hope we get him back.

  37. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Edmure Tully: David Wenham
    Hoster Tully: Alan Dale

    Meera Reed: Saorise Ronan

    Red Viper: Cliff Simon/Naveen Andrews/Alexander Siddig

    Victarion Greyjoy/Mance Rayder: James Purefoy/ Henry Ian Cusick

    I’d also like to see a place for Ian McShane (possibly Doran Martell) and Ron Perlman.

  38. Villane
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Really hope they hook us up with some Maester Qyburn! I love that creepy fuck.

    Also, screw the Reeds, nasty frog eatin bastards. Jojen is a bitch. Osha is much better.

    Wonder how they’re gonna keep Bran involved in the story after Season 2? His handi-capable ass does not have a whole lot to do in Book III. 4 chapters I think.

    I also want some Ramsay Bolton, like bad.

  39. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets,

    I really doubt Hoster will feature at all.

    Naveen Andrews would make a good Areo Hotah.

  40. Lise Bollum
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Kristofer Hivju definitely looks like a Tormund to me!

    On a side note: doeth anyone have any thuggethions for Vargo Hoat?

  41. Jason Weaver
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    I assume they are going to have to cast the Brave Companions too. Seems unlikely they’ll have the Mountain’s men cut Jaime’s hand off Vargo Hoat would be an interesting casting. long goatee and a lisp.

    Always thought Ron Perlman would be a great Tormund but the guy in the pics looks pretty damn close.

  42. lannisport
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Man can people stop going on about the Reeds already! We have had to listen to this non stop for the past 12 months and its more than annoying by this point. There are so many brilliant, interesting characters to cast in season 3 so I dont see how 2 glorified plot devices are still being brought up in every new thread that gets created here.

  43. Astalnar
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    I would say Kristofer Hivju is more appropriate for Edmure, he is only 34 years old.
    If I am not wrong Tormund is at well over 50 years old. I mean, he is described with having grey, white hair and beard.
    Since they made everyone until now at least few years older he is more suitable for Edmure as he is younger than Michelle Fairley.

  44. FlayedManofBK
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Villane,

    Ramsay will be cast. The next episode, Roose bolton mentions to Robb that he will be sending his bastard son to rescue Winterfell after Luwin sends a raven re: theon.

  45. G_Lee
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    On this picture Hivju looks like either Mance Rayder or Edmure Tully!

    http://www.lydbokforlaget.no/files/lydbokforlaget/personer/image001%20kristoffer%20hivju.jpg

    I too thought that Tormund is way older than that. Ray Winstone could play Tormund

  46. From Chaos
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    lannisport: Man can people stop going on about the Reeds already! We have had to listen to this non stop for the past 12 months and its more than annoying by this point. There are so many brilliant, interesting characters to cast in season 3 so I dont see how 2 glorified plot devices are still being brought up in every new thread that gets created here.

    Agreed 1000%

  47. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Arthur: Meeeeeerrrrrraaaa…?http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/211/1/0/meera_reed_of_greywater_watch_by_mudcountyrodeo-d42479s.jpg

    I know you have a major crush on her, but that picture makes her look way too womanly, she’s supposed to be flat as a boy. We can thank Theon for checking her out for us.

  48. Josh
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    FlayedManofBK:
    Villane,

    Ramsay will be cast. The next episode, Roose bolton mentions to Robbthat he will be sending his bastard son to rescue Winterfell after Luwin sends a raven re: theon.

    Have you seen the episode or is this a guess?

  49. Domenico Barbato
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    morbiczerThere is certainly a chance. Unless they change the plot significantly, they will have to split Bran and Rickon. And if Osha goes with Rickon, they need somebody to help Bran get North. Osha could stay with Bran I guess, but then Rickon needs company.

    I may be crazy, but how about Luwin surviving the sack of Winterfell and following Osha, Bran, Rickon and Hodor in their journey? Then they can spit near the Wall, Osha with Rickon and Luwin with Bran or viceversa. I like the Reeds but this sounds a nice trade to me.

  50. Carne
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Astalnar,

    Edmure is a possibility. Just look here.

  51. margaery
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    I TOTALLY NEED THE REEDS
    i mean they are such important characters! maybe the writers will put them in s3 since they arent in s2
    and EDMURE TULLY! *-* jnfksjk my feelings… the red viper or ellaria sand
    i totally hope that we get EDRIC STORM !
    but whatever i bet the casts will be amazing (:

  52. Dogmayor
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    FlayedManofBK,

    If this is true I may need to change my pants.

    Carne,

    Edmure or Beric is a good possibility.

    I’m still holding out for Ron Perlman for Tormund.

  53. JamesL
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    FlayedManofBK,

    Where did you hear this??

  54. Dan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Consider this: Cillian Murphy for Ramsay Snow!

  55. DaveB
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Kristofer Hivju, the new David Wilmot. Coming to everybody’s dream cast in Summer 2012.

  56. Gared Hall
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    I think that the Kristofer chap looks rather like Edmure; afterall, we still need a reason to host a RW. Though he looks like a spot on image for Giantsbane. I really do hope that they bring Jojen and Meera into season 3 somehow. I’m thinking that they kept them out due to the amount of people they had to bring in this season, plus the budget busting costs of the Battle of the Blackwater. I’m really interested to see their take on Dorne – always pictured it with a middle eastern flare.

  57. Hollis
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Hi, I’m kind of new to this, but I’ve just started reading the books. I’m only on book two now, but I’m a little person actress, very interested in the role of Penny.
    Do you think they will cast her in season 3, 4 or maybe even 5?

  58. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Dan:
    Consider this: Cillian Murphy for Ramsay Snow!

    he’s too skinny but it would work for me. Or Crispin Glover? I just got the creeps.

  59. Ghost Robot
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    My ideal casting:

    Ramsay Snow: Andrew Scott
    Mance Rayder: David Tennant
    Oberyn Martell: Nestor Carbonell
    Victarion: Ray Stevenson
    Euron: Mads Mikkelsen

    Andrew Scott would kill it as Ramsay, he did a great job as a sociopath in Sherlock, I’d love to see his take on the Bastard of Bolton.
    David Tennant might be more of a reach and too expensive, but I think he could play up the charismatic side of Mance wonderfully. Plus, Mance isn’t really described as being a huge guy, physically I think it could work well.
    Nestor Carbonell for Oberyn, even though he’s American, he just looks exactly like how I pictured the Red Viper in my head.
    And I think the combo of Stevenson and Mikkelsen would be fantastic as the Greyjoy brothers.

  60. Noob Takes the Black
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Domenico Barbato,

    But Luwin has to stick around Winterfell to try to talk some sense into Theon. If they don’t put the Reeds into Season three, one could create a Manderly to take Rickon off somewhere, shortening that bit of exposition when Davos ends up in White Harbor. My guess, though, is they just keep Rickon and Bran together.

  61. Ser Balon Swann
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    if they do cast ramsay, who do you guys like for that role? a lot of people said cillian murphy, but i disagree, he’s too much like roose. according the books there’s quite a contrast between ramsay and roose, which roose attributes to his “bastards blood”. roose is cold, calculating and cruel, while ramsay is wild, vicious and maniacal. cillian murphy comes across as more of the cold, calculating type.

  62. dmf
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Astalnar,

    I see him as Edmure too, just like I imagined him when reading the books!

  63. Dogmayor
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    morbiczer,

    Bran and Rickon could stick together, with Osha taking over for the Reeds, until the wall, where Bran will go North with Coldhands and Rickon will go off with Osha. Or we might get the Reeds, who knows.

  64. lannisport
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Hollis,

    More than likely not until season 5 when Tyrion starts out on his journey away from Kings Landing

  65. andrea
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    lol TORMUND!
    Hivju is younger than book Tormund I think but he looks great!

  66. JamesL
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    Hollis,

    How do you know who Penny is if your only on book 2?? She doesn’t appear until a Dance with Dragons and they won’t get to that until a few more seasons and when they do I’m not sure if they will cast her because they cut a lot of the minor characters.

  67. Ser Balon Swann
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    i was never a big fan of the reeds, and honestly i would probably be happier if bran went with luwin and osha instead, because the contrast between those two would be great, and donald sumpter has been fantastic as luwin, i’d love to have him stick around. i mean they had doreah live instead of dying in the red waste, why not let luwin live?

  68. Draig
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    BIG NEWS ALL

    SHIREEN BARATHEON IS BEING CAST

    I know a firend of a friend who told me that about 100 girls were auditioning for the part a fortnight ago. The scene she had to read was one where Shireen goes down to the cells on Dragonstone to give Davos a book.

  69. Marc
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Off topic, but look at this :)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25KABvPbq-U

  70. Pepi
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Toby Jones as Qyburn. Make it happen, WiC!
    Mark Donovan as Manderly(later seasons).
    This new guy could play Beric, should they recast him … given that he does english accents. One of the wildlings otherwise.

    That’s all I got. Ow, and I think they’ll introduce Martells in 3rd season. Second half.

  71. Tom
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Could he be Thoros of Myr?

  72. J
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Draig:
    BIG NEWS ALL

    SHIREEN BARATHEON IS BEING CAST

    I know a firend of a friend who told methat about 100 girls were auditioning for the part a fortnight ago. The scene she had to read was one where Shireen goes down to the cells on Dragonstone to give Davos a book.

    Well that’s going to confuse the hell out of non-book readers.

  73. The Dragon Demands
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    I kind of always hoped that Christopher Eccleston would play Mance Rayder.

  74. Morrigan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    He’s a bit bulky for Edmure, but it could work. If not, Tormund or maybe Mance, yeah. That is one badass beard anyway.

  75. Connie
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Draig: BIG NEWS ALL
    SHIREEN BARATHEON IS BEING CAST

    Not the best sources but it makes sense. Shireen helps drive the motivation of Stannis to take the throne, to have a son proper, and it helps drive home the greyscale issues which becomes more important in book 5.

    Does this mean we get a Queen Mustache too?

  76. Jason Weaver
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Brendon Gleeson would make a good Tormund too. I mean look at him in Kingdom of Heaven. He’s big brauny and certainly close to Iceland. http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsG/6628-26576.gif

  77. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Draig:
    BIG NEWS ALL

    SHIREEN BARATHEON IS BEING CAST

    I know a firend of a friend who told methat about 100 girls were auditioning for the part a fortnight ago. The scene she had to read was one where Shireen goes down to the cells on Dragonstone to give Davos a book.

    Yay, now people can shut up about the fact that Stannis has no children

  78. morbiczer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Hollis,

    She wouldn’t be in season 3, that’s for sure.

  79. john
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Daario Naharis=Jared Leto

  80. Genevosey
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    They didn’t have a choice but to recast. Conan had another role or something that conflicted. I remember reading it here.

  81. Ours is the Fury
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    SHIREEEEEEN! Sorry I’m just very happy right now.

    Hollis,

    Penny wouldn’t be until at least season 5, at the rate they’re going, since S4 will be the second half of ASoS. Penny turns up in ADwD. Not sure of how they’ll mix up ADWD and AFFC timeline wise.
    Good luck when the time comes. :)

  82. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    I don’t know; I can see Hoster having a one-shot role just to die so Edmure becomes the Lord of Riverrun.

  83. lepape
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    I would have guessed the 11 year old being cast would be Missandei and not Shireen, I thought they made it clear Shireen or even Stannis’s wife had no room in the show.

  84. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Considering that the Davos/Stannis/Mel subplot in Book 3 only really increase pace in the second half (probably Season 4), it makes sense that they’ll have to increase the story in Dragonstone and use Shireen (and hopefully Selyse).

  85. Domenico Barbato
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    To whoever named Andrew Scott as ramsay – this is pure genius. I WILL SKIIIIIIIIIIIIN YOU :D

  86. Icy Fingers
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Ser Balon Swann,

    Hi, long time lurker, first time poster here

    I’ve seen a lot of people suggest Iwan Rheon for Ramsay Snow, and having seen him in Misfits the guy can do creepy really well

  87. Daniel
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Brad Dourif as one of the Frey’s. Too bad he’s American.

  88. john
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Marc,

    Im gonna turn that into a ringtone :)

  89. Kate K
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Well, not too surprising – I’ve noticed that actors and actresses from the UK and Ireland seem more likely to switch back and forth from movie to TV roles than American ones. So if they consider him for Mance – or anyone else – there’s a chance.

  90. Weirwood
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    I hope the casting agents continue to fill the rosters with unknown/lesser-known actors. They have done a fantastic job so far. I have faith in the production staff to continue finding the perfect actors for each role regardless.

    We needed headliners for the first season in order to sell the show to new viewers, I don’t think that is a problem anymore.

  91. Connie
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Hollis,

    They will probably cast a random dwarf for the sequence Penny is first in, but where she has no dialogue or lines and is basically a glorified extra They may even go with a male actor for that first sequence she appears in. Like the caged 3 at the end of Season 1, they were all recast properly for Season 2. When time comes for her proper introduction in book 5, they’ll have hired the proper actress.

    If you’re a little lady (don’t know your preferred term) in theater, you may want to contact your agent NOW about getting in touch with Nina’s people to submit you for the part. They’re known to pre-cast for specific roles. Especially a trickier one to cast like Penny.

  92. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    morbiczer:
    Hollis,

    She wouldn’t be in season 3, that’s for sure.

    Not impossible depending on how they move things around. She is present in King’s Landing on Joffrey’s fateful day and Tyrion does interact with her in the book (but we don’t realize her and her brother are important until later)

  93. Tytos Blackwood
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    I got this thought of who would be perfect for this role the other day, she may be a bit young but
    Cristine Rose would be perfect for the queen of thorns

  94. 3waywithCersei
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Dan:
    Consider this: Cillian Murphy for Ramsay Snow!

    Hear hear

  95. morbiczer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Penny has been retconed into ASOS by GRRM in ADWD

  96. john
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Lise Bollum,

    Vargo Hoat= john Malkovitch

  97. morbiczer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Kingthlayer,

    Yeah, but that event is unlikely to be in season 3 (or well, it might be towards the end).

  98. Tytos Blackwood
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    and Vargo Hoat should be Mckenzie Crook

  99. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    Marc,

    Off topic, but look at this :)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25KABvPbq-U

    Wow, thats really funny lol…

  100. Lars
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    Draig:
    BIG NEWS ALL

    SHIREEN BARATHEON IS BEING CAST

    I know a firend of a friend who told methat about 100 girls were auditioning for the part a fortnight ago. The scene she had to read was one where Shireen goes down to the cells on Dragonstone to give Davos a book.

    Call me a skeptic… “friend of a friend”.

  101. John
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Dogmayor:
    morbiczer,

    Bran and Rickon could stick together, with Osha taking over for the Reeds, until the wall, where Bran will go North with Coldhands and Rickon will go off with Osha. Or we might get the Reeds, who knows.

    Of all the non-Reed theories, this one makes the most sense, though I also like the suggestion that they just keep Maester Luwin alive. I can’t see why that wouldn’t work. I think Jojen has definitely been cut, given that Bran is now having his dreams. I’m still holding out hope for Meera, though it seems that if she was going to be included, she should be showing up to Winterfell this season. I suppose they could just have Bran run into her on the road, but that would seem contrived.

  102. James Brookes
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Apparently those that think Penny doesn’t show up until ADWD are forgetting that she appears in ASOS as entertainment at the Purple Wedding.

    No, we don’t know it’s her then, but it is made clear subsequently that it is her.

  103. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Hah,

    Look what I found. All you people who feel like me about wanting Meera to be cast for the TV series. Put your bitching to work and sign this petition like I did…

    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-meera-reed/

  104. john
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Ramsay Bolton=Crispin Glover

  105. Ser Balon Swann
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    Icy Fingers,

    I like that suggestion, also like andrew scott. still stand by my point that cillian murphy seems a little too calm to be ramsay, need the contrast between him and roose. another guy i would love to see as ramsay is Mark Pellegrino. http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9900000/Lucifer-5×10-EP-mark-pellegrino-9986127-967-1450.jpg

  106. Charlie
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    If I could choose who would play Mance Rayder, I’d pick Tommy Flanagan. Dude even looks like a wildling. Of course Sons Of Anarchy ruins that dream for me. Oh well.

  107. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Domenico Barbato: I may be crazy, but how about Luwin surviving the sack of Winterfell and following Osha, Bran, Rickon and Hodor in their journey? Then they can spit near the Wall, Osha with Rickon and Luwin with Bran or viceversa. I like the Reeds but this sounds a nice trade to me.

    Maester Lewin trekking through the wilderness sounds a little far-fetched.

  108. fuelpagan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Arvin: fuelpagan,Are you implying that George has a more important roll intented for the redheaded whore in Winterfell, only because she was cast by the production?

    What an irrelevant argument.

    Well since George didn’t create the character of the redheaded whore in Winterfell named Ros, I would say no.

    For D&D to cut characters like the Blackfish and the Reeds and Edmure, yet introduce Daario in season 3, I find very interesting. They could easily create a character called Dan the sellsword instead. From what we know, Daario is a character begging to be cut, or at least pushed back. His contrabution to the story so far could easily be given to other characters. So unless he is important to the story in the books to come, he should be cut.

  109. Daniel
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Titus Welliver as Axell Florent.

  110. Dan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    If we’re getting Shireen, then maybe we’re also getting…. Patchface!! oh ho!

  111. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    morbiczer: Ours is the Fury, Penny has been retconed into ASOS by GRRM in ADWD

    How do you know she was retconned in? For all we know that’s what he intended at the time.

  112. Domenico Barbato
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson: Maester Lewin trekking through the wilderness sounds a little far-fetched.

    I thought so myself while toying with the notion, but more farfetched than a crippled boy, a giant half-wit and two teenagers trekking through the wilderness? Not on my book.

  113. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan: What an irrelevant argument. Well since George didn’t create the character of the redheaded whore in Winterfell named Ros, I would say no.For D&D to cut characters like the Blackfish and the Reeds and Edmure, yet introduce Daario in season 3, I find very interesting. They could easily create a character called Dan the sellsword instead. From what we know, Daario is a character begging to be cut, or at least pushed back. His contrabution to the story so far could easily be given to other characters. So unless he is important to the story in the books to come, he should be cut.

    C’mon, give the khaleesi a break and let the poor girl get some sweet lovin’.

  114. Hollis
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    James Brookes,

    morbiczer,

    Kingthlayer,

    morbiczer,

    Connie,

    That’s what I was wondering (if they were going to be looking relatively soon). I’ll try and get in contact with Nina asap. Thanks so much for everyone’s help. I really, really appreciate it! Fingers crossed!

  115. Shinyteapot
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Iwan Rheon as Ramsay.
    Christopher Eccleston as any one of the Greyjoy brothers (I’d happily see him play all three!)

    I hope the rumour about Shireen is true. If the greyscale subplot is important and/or extra drama is warranted, she might catch it during the series rather than already having it.

    If Shireen is cast, will there be a Patchface? He’s creepy but I don’t know how well he’d work on screen.

  116. Chris77
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Nathan Filion for either Mance, Edmure or Vargo!

  117. altdave
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan,

    i think the same… Beric or Edmure Tully … he just have to cut his beard …. Tormun should be older i think…

  118. sunspear
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Probably to old, but my vote is for Keith Richards as Mance Rayder.

  119. Liz B.
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Daniel,

    Peter Dinkladge is American, too, so there’s always a chance.

  120. KG
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    (Lists the same list of people people have listed since the first lists were listed by people three years ago)

  121. Clabog
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    john,

    Crispin Glover is damn creepy, but seeing as he’s about the same age as the actor playing Roose, he might be a little old to be his son, no?

    So very interested to see how they’ll handle some of the Ramsay scenes in Book 5, especially one with Jeyne Poole and Theon on his wedding night

  122. nightwolf
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Jason Isaacs – Mance

    Kaya Scodelario – Meera

  123. Kate
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Please, stop the Reeds nonsense and get over it. They have been cut and so far it is working FINE! And the show’s Osha is much more interesting that the books’ Meera.

  124. Jay Sutherland
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Sent you guys a message! Help!! Please! Somehow! Anyone! :)

  125. JamesL
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Now we just need a petition to recast “Yara” and get Conan back as the Mountain.

  126. Idaan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    nightwolf,

    Kaya is Arianne Martell. It is known.

  127. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Kate,

    Please, stop the Reeds nonsense and get over it. They have been cut and so far it is working FINE! And the show’s Osha is much more interesting that the books’ Meera.

    1). You don’t know if they have been cut. (Unless your a D&D insider).
    2). You thinking Osha is “much more interesting”, is a matter of opinion.

  128. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    Now we just need a petition to recast “Yara” and get Conan back as the Mountain

    .

    I totally agree about The Mountain. The Pau Gasol LA Laker look-a-like does NO justice to GRRM’s “Mountain”.

    Yara isn’t at all as sexy as I pictured her in the books but as long as she can throw an axe I am fine with the casting…

  129. fuelpagan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    LOL. Well I think Daario is important, so I have no problem with him being casted. But the Khaleesi could get sweet lovin from anyone really. Need not be Daario.

  130. Blood
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Regardless of if Daario becomes more important later on he is essential to Dany’s story, and will be even more so in the show. Most of the complaints that he is pointless or boring or creepy or whatever will also disappear if they cast a hot actor.

  131. Andrew
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    BTW, here is the link for the Westeros.org poster who says he’s heard they’re casting Daario now.

  132. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Looking forward to seeing Ramsay, Victarion, Oberyn, Vargo and Mance. A rather bad-ass group.

  133. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Dude, I think you’re obsessed or something . No wonder nobody takes you seriously anymore on this website when you continue posting and repeating the same thing over and over again like it would really change other’s opinions or something .

  134. nightwolf
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Idaan,

    She would be a good Arianne, but Arianne has an olive skin tone. I just really want Meera to be in it lol

  135. Mimsy
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    lannisport: lannisport
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink
    Man can people stop going on about the Reeds already! We have had to listen to this non stop for the past 12 months and its more than annoying by this point. There are so many brilliant, interesting characters to cast in season 3 so I dont see how 2 glorified plot devices are still being brought up in every new thread that gets created here.

    They will always be brought up because they are basically Bran’s world once he stepped foot out of Winterfell. It’s like telling Dany.. go on with your bad self.. but leave Jorah in the red waste.

  136. Ours is the Fury
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    I kinda do think it being Penny that Tyrion spotted in ASoS is a retcon, but I don’t blame GRRM for it. It works. I don’t know that they would bother with that scene in the TV show though.

  137. Ashton Lee
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    If they cast Shireen, they should also cast patchface! i want to hear his creepy rhymes.

    I doN’t think the Greyjoy brothers and Oberyn makes it to Season 3, but they would be welcome. So that leaves us with Mance, Tormund, Olenna and Ramsay.

  138. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Dude, I think you’re obsessed or something . No wonder nobody takes you seriously anymore on this website when you continue posting and repeating the same thing over and over again like it would really change other’s opinions or something .

    Was there some kind of survey where everyone voted that they didn’t take my opinion seriously? Or is it that you have a grand knowledge of what everyone on this site thinks?

  139. sunspear
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I don’t see how it’s retcon. She had plenty of time and a reason to go to Volantis.

  140. Mimsy
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Kristofer is SO HIRED!!! I don’t care what he plays, but that man looks EPIC! He must be cast.

  141. morbiczer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    We don’t know whether it is a retcon or not, and we will never find out, but I am sure that’s what happened.

  142. The Winter Rose
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    nightwolf:
    Jason Isaacs – Mance

    Kaya Scodelario – Meera

    Jason Isaacs is currently staring in Awake on NBC so it’s unlikely he would be cast.

  143. fuelpagan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Blood: Regardless of if Daario becomes more important later on he is essential to Dany’s story, and will be even more so in the show. Most of the complaints that he is pointless or boring or creepy or whatever will also disappear if they cast a hot actor.

    Daario is no more important to Dany’s story than the Blackfish and Edmure are to Catlyn and Robb’s story or the Reeds are to Bran’s story.

    No doubt he will be a hot actor. But really, how hot can a guy be with a blue beard and blue hair with a gold tooth?

    I predict when he is casted many will be complaining they casted the character too young.

  144. Perkins
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    ahhman, that guy looks like the brief glimpse of beric from season one.

    lightning lord FTW.

  145. Handmaiden of Dany
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    I DO want a Darrio, Dany will need some mad loving soon! Although, I wasn’t impressed with him in the books, I’m hoping I will see in the show why Dany IS! :)

  146. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Kristofer Hivju definitly looks like something you’d find “North of the Wall”.

  147. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    i agree – GRRM builds easy retcons into his work on purpose for potential use later like Quaith (who could be anyone really, I’m not sure GRRM has decided). I like it. It’s the best type of retcon because it doesn’t come off as cheating really imo

  148. Rabbitstew
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    That’s exciting about Shireen, I’ve always loved the visual of Patchface (was that the fool’s name?) and her…… pretty surreal

  149. MW
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    I recognize Kristofer Hivju from his role in the recent The Thing movie. He had a very memorable scene from that movie.

  150. nightwolf
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    The Winter Rose,

    Awake is probably going to be canceled

  151. Caro Herrera
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    i really have a thing right now for tom hiddleston, so if anyone else likes him who do could he play??

  152. Rabbitstew
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    All of this talk about Daario is silly, he is still alive and kicking in ADWD, he may be huge to the plot eventually, we don’t know GRRM’s ending but D&D do

  153. dizzy_34
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Peter Stormare as Vargo Hoat

  154. Blackfish
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    The Winter Rose: Jason Isaacs is currently staring in Awake on NBC so it’s unlikely he would be cast.

    I believe Awake is canceled so he would be available, but him being cast is another story and unlikely.

  155. Josh
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    I hate to bring up the R-word but I wonder if Shireen Baratheon is just a lie so they can cast The Reeds instead. As bummed as I was we didn’t get our favorite Grey Scaled gal and her crazy sidekick, the show has already established that Stannis has no children. I hate to think of such a big continuity snafu as this. Greyscale or not, Stannis would have corrected Melissandre. So I hope this rumor is not true…

    Is there another young female they might be casting? I can’t remember who else shows up in book 3…I just don’t like continuity errors so I’m not loving the Shireen news haha

  156. Blood
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan: Daario is no more important to Dany’s story than the Blackfish and Edmure are to Catlyn and Robb’s story or the Reeds are to Bran’s story.

    No doubt he will be a hot actor. But really, how hot can a guy be with a blue beard and blue hair with a gold tooth?

    Edmure and the Blackfish is important mainly with regard to the tactics and warfare part that the show is downplaying. There’s a reason Riverrun has not really been introduced. The Reeds I would bet are being conflated with Osha which makes sense.

    Being Dany’s love interest is very important to the show, so they would never cut Daario. They might change his character (there is no reason that he has to have dyed hair or golden teeth), might move around characters she meets or combine them etc. but he will be there in some form, no question about that.

  157. Andrew
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Josh:
    the show has already established that Stannis has no children.

    Nope. She said “no sons.”

  158. Stephen McGrath
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    This – couldnt put it better myself.

    lannisport: Posted May 2, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink
    Man can people stop going on about the Reeds already! We have had to listen to this non stop for the past 12 months and its more than annoying by this point. There are so many brilliant, interesting characters to cast in season 3 so I dont see how 2 glorified plot devices are still being brought up in every new thread that gets created here.

    Jojen = morbid kid who talks in riddles. Meera = read the books three times and couldn’t tell you what she really does that’s interesting.

    But then each to their own i s’pose.

  159. Kelly
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Eww, no. He’s a woman-beater. James Purefoy or Christopher Eccleston!

  160. Mimsy
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    Andrew: Andrew
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Permalink
    Josh:
    the show has already established that Stannis has no children.

    Nope. She said “no sons.”

      

    Correct. No sons. Selyse is unable to bear him any more children. The tv scene just didn’t get into the details.

  161. Knurk
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    For the love of god, no Daario please. Who cares if he plays a part in the endgame, just invent a better character for that horrible piece of storyline.

  162. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    Kelly,

    WTF are you talking about ? That’s news to me .

  163. dizzy_34
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Clancy Brown as Tormund Giantsbane.
    Tim Roth as Mance Rayder

  164. Alan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Why are people saying Oberyn won’t be cast for season 3?

    From most points of view, the Red Wedding will come close to ending Season 3. the Purple Wedding is soon thereafter. There needs to be enough time for Oberyn to be introduced at minimum, before Tyrion is imprisoned.

    Furthermore, Oberyn arrives as the representative of the Dornish for the council after the Myrcella pact is made. I understand casting actors takes time, but the character shows up earlier rather than later in a chronological sense in ASOS.

  165. fuelpagan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Blood: Being Dany’s love interest is very important to the show, so they would never cut Daario. They might change his character (there is no reason that he has to have dyed hair or golden teeth), might move around characters she meets or combine them etc. but he will be there in some form, no question about that.

    A love interest that ends up being just a fling is not crucial to Dany’s story. We are barely around the character and most of our exposure to him Dany’s obsession with him…in book 5. If all he is is simply a love interest for Dany, they could easily push this casting back to season 4.

    But there is a good reason why he keeps his hair dyed and his eyes sometimes look blue and sometimes look purple. I do hope they drop the gold tooth though.

  166. Winter Is Coming
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Added this to the post:

    Another role that is rumored to be currently casting is Daario Naharis. And, according to someone who has seen the casting breakdown, the producers are looking for “any ethnicity, except Caucasian”.

  167. OhDanyBoy
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    The Tyrion chapter in question is #39 out of 82 for ASOS. The RW occurs in chapter 52, but the storylines could very easily be shuffled a bit, as they are mostly unrelated. The Oberyn arrival scene could easily be kept to the first episode of the 4th season.

  168. ScottsdaleSam
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    If they end season 3 on the Purple Wedding, they’ll have to introduce the Viper. Makes more sense than to introduce him after that event.

  169. Draig
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Josh,

    I can tell you now that it is 100% true. By friend of a friend I mean a very close friend.

  170. Alan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan: e crazy, but how about Luwin surviving the sack of Winterfell and following Osha, Bran, Rickon and Hodor in their journey? Then they can spit near the Wall, Osha with Rickon and Luwin with Bran or viceversa. I like the Reeds but this sounds a nice trade to me.

    fuelpagan: Daario is no more important to Dany’s story than the Blackfish and Edmure are to Catlyn and Robb’s story or the Reeds are to Bran’s story.

    No doubt he will be a hot actor. But really, how hot can a guy be with a blue beard and blue hair with a gold tooth?

    I predict when he is casted many will be complaining they casted the character too young.

    While I agree the Ros comparison is ridiculous, the idea that Daario is on the chopping block is kind of silly, no?

    He’s Dany’s love interest. Will he have blue hair and a gold tooth? I expect not. But her silliness over him is part of her story, and they aren’t going to cut THAT. So why not use Daario?

    There’s a ton of characters more easily cut than Daario.

  171. Green Sight
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Maria Batsiou,

    Maria Batsiou,

    I want Meera Reed now. Not never, now. SHe should be attending the harvest feast in the next episode damnit. Meera is central to Bran’s story line. It’s his love interest for Christ’s sake.

  172. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Another role that is rumored to be currently casting is Daario Naharis. And, according to someone who has seen the casting breakdown, the producers are looking for “any ethnicity, except Caucasian”.

    I guess they are giving Dany her love affair sooner rather then later. That is good news to me. I would rather see meaningful love scenes then brothel scenes…

  173. Jaime Lannister
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Please stop with the Reed fanwanking. We have much more pressing issues to address, like the absence of RAMSAY BLOODY BOLTON.

    Damn it, Dave and Dan. We’d have more than enough time to seed a few more characters if your pet whore was removed, and the T&A quota HBO slaps you with was met in more creative ways.

  174. Maxwell James
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Considering the differences between show Xaro and book Xaro, I wouldn’t worry too much.

    Regarding Shireen – sweet. While I can see how that may create some confusion, it shouldn’t be any worse than the introduction of Rickon in S1. And I do hope they cast Patchface as well, he is enjoyably creepy.

  175. Oi!
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    I guess they are going for an actor that will have some similarity to Drogo/Jason.

  176. Rose
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    I love Daario and I love the Meerenese Knot and I love Dany getting a chance to be a teenage girl, everybody can blow me. Thank god he’s not being cut.

  177. fuelpagan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Rabbitstew,

    That is my point. I think to cast him now for season 3 means the character is more important to the story than just Dany’s Boy Toy.

  178. James Wu
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Just bring back Jason Momoa as Daario. I think it would be great to have him back on the show.

    http://i.imgur.com/wCpN5.jpg

  179. Eugene Toussaint
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    i know it would probably never happen but Johnny Depp would make a sick Daario Naharis

  180. Chris
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    ScottsdaleSam:

    If they end season 3 on the Purple Wedding, they’ll have to introduce the Viper. Makes more sense than to introduce him after that event.

    Isn’t that a long time for Tyrion to be imprisoned? Or would they move his escape and travels into mid-season 4?

  181. Shinyteapot
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Daario is necessary, though he may not be the same as the books. Dany chooses a political marriage, meaning she has to stop seeing the guy she actually likes- that’s a big deal. It’s a less difficult choice if she’s not involved with someone. Later on, he’s a hostage she cares about.

    The actual character could be anything from very engaging, multilayered and interesting (we’ve only seen him from Dany’s POV) to a male Ros- being naked and attractive while Dany talks about politics (this seems to be the way she feels about him in the books anyway!).

  182. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Jaime Lannister,

    Please stop with the Reed fanwanking. We have much more pressing issues to address, like the absence of RAMSAY BLOODY BOLTON.

    Hah! We all have our favorites. Lets just try to be civil to each other with the concerns of all our favorite characters, be it Reeds, Boltons, The Red Viper, whomever.

    We all have our own favorites and there is no need to belittle someone elses concern about a casting for a character just because it is not a character you personally enjoyed.

    I wish they all could be cast.

  183. Josh
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Andrew: Nope. She said “no sons.”

    Oh I could have sworn she said “she bore you only stillborn children and no sons…” or something like that. It’s why everyone was saying “There goes Shireen.” No one would have said that if they said “no sons…”

  184. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    KG: (Lists the same list of people people have listed since the first lists were listed by people three years ago)

    (Lists the standard opposition to proposed names and proposes the same alternatives listed by people three years ago.)

  185. Alan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    OhDanyBoy:
    Alan,

    The Tyrion chapter in question is #39 out of 82 for ASOS.The RW occurs in chapter 52, but the storylines could very easily be shuffled a bit, as they are mostly unrelated.The Oberyn arrival scene could easily be kept to the first episode of the 4th season.

    It could. I don’t disagree. But the opinion seems to be that’s certain. I don’t think that’s ideal in terms of the storytelling. I actually think that since the pace of ASOS picks up, that in terms of chapters, Season 3 will go past the half way point.

    It’ll still leave a crowded Season 4, and having to establish a new character and then throw him into the mix will feel a lot like Renly this season — where people feel like he came and went quickly.

    So yes, money-wise, I can see not wanting the character in Season 3. But if they want him to play a bit, in the best version of the story he’s there already. People here are acting as if it is a fait accompli.

  186. sunspear
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan,

    Not necessarily. It could just mean Dany’s story is going to reach Yunkai.

  187. Maxwell James
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Shinyteapot,

    Love the idea of Daario as a male Ros. Especially if he could have affairs with Irri, Penny, and – what the hell – Qaithe. Women talk when they’re happy!

  188. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan: Steven Swanson, LOL. Well I think Daario is important, so I have no problem with him being casted. But the Khaleesi could get sweet lovin from anyone really. Need not be Daario.

    If we need an alternative I vote for Strong Belwas.

  189. SeVv
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Josh,

    she said: ” she gave you no sons, only stillborn (stillborn sons).”

    that leves the possibility of Shireen open

  190. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury: I kinda do think it being Penny that Tyrion spotted in ASoS is a retcon, but I don’t blame GRRM for it. It works. I don’t know that they would bother with that scene in the TV show though.

    And you wouldn’t need the same actor anyway, in the original scene it wasn’t even clear one of them was a woman, as they were probably wearing helmets.

  191. sunspear
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Chris,

    Yeah, that’s what I’m expecting to happen.

  192. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    Strong Belwas better be one bad ass motherf****r.

    I hope an actor like Jason Momoa is cast for Belwas…

  193. Alan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Daario is in ASOS. I know a lot of us have theorized that they would combine Astapor, Yunkai and Mereen. I’m not sure this casting answers much for us, but if:

    1) They are doing the full plotline, Dany would reach Yunkai and deal with Daario before the end of the first season in a lot of cases. I think we’ve all assumed that Astapor would end Season One. But that doesn’t leave a lot for Dany to do in Season One, now does it? It would leave Yunkai, Jorah reveal as a betrayer, and Mereen in season 2.

    2) They are combining the plotlines into Astapor or two cities, then the introduction of Daario could very likely happen much earlier in the story. (It could also happen later.

    People always seem to assume the most changes. I actually think number one is more likely, considering that the back half of ASOS in other locations (KL) will be really jam-packed.

  194. fuelpagan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    sunspear: fuelpagan, Not necessarily. It could just mean Dany’s story is going to reach Yunkai.

    Really?!? Cast a character for 2 scenes in season 3 when they could easily introduce him in season 4. With all the other changes, why would it be important to follow the book in this case for a character many think is simply Dany’s love interest. If the teenage obsession is going to be in season 4, introduce him in season 4 then.

  195. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Green Sight: Maria Batsiou, Maria Batsiou, I want Meera Reed now. Not never, now. SHe should be attending the harvest feast in the next episode damnit. Meera is central to Bran’s story line. It’s his love interest for Christ’s sake.

    The love interest of a 10-year-old boy is really that important to you?

  196. Andrew
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets,

    I would LOVE to see Saoirse Ronan as Meera! She was absolutely brilliant in all the roles ive seen her in, and she deffinitely has the look. She also proved she can be a bit of a badass, with her role in Hanna, so yeah, I think she would be a great fit.

    Was Oded Fehr (I think thats how its spelt?) the guy from The Mummy? He’s getting a bit old for the Red Viper, I think.

  197. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan: Rabbitstew, That is my point. I think to cast him now for season 3 means the character is more important to the story than just Dany’s Boy Toy.

    Well, among other things he’s integral to her obtaining the services of a certain powerful mercenary company.

  198. fuelpagan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Knurk: For the love of god, no Daario please. Who cares if he plays a part in the endgame, just invent a better character for that horrible piece of storyline.

    Don’t worry. It will be easier to deal with Dany making googly eyes at Daario than having to suffer through her inner monologue obsession with him.

  199. PJK
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    Enough of this Reeds and Ramsey Snow talk! Where are my Kettleblacks?

  200. LordStarkington
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Andrew,

    Oberyn is ~42 when he appears in the books, and Oded Fehr is 42 as well. I’d actually be a big fan of casting him although getting someone that recognizable might be a spoiler in itself to savvy viewers.

  201. Ours is the Fury
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    Andrew,

    He’s not, he’s the right age exactly. He’s 41 years old, old enough to have young women as his daughters assuming he started young enough, which we know Oberyn did.

  202. Bob Loblaw
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    PJK,

    I can’t believe someone likes the Kettleblacks. Haha that’s cool, it’s nice that every character has a fan.

    What’s next, someone clamoring for Jason Mallister?

  203. fuelpagan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson: Well, among other things he’s integral to her obtaining the services of a certain powerful mercenary company.

    Tell that to Jacelyn Bywater. Or how about Roose Bolton in season 1 for the battle of the Green Fork. Or Ramsay Snow.

  204. Jason Snodgrass
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Oded would make the perfect viper. every one else would be wasting time

  205. Ed
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    AlexBaratheon:
    Question. It may be a spoiler so I will block it Do you guys think they will CGI the giantsor cast really huge actors??

    I don’t know any actors big enough! I’ll go with CGI!

  206. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Oh god, Dany’s storyline was so shitty in ADWD that I fear the show will be cancelled if they follow it the same .

  207. Handmaiden of Dany
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Did a twitter recap get posted yet, cuz I’m not seeing it?

  208. Remaal
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    For Daario, I hope they give Rik Makarem a look-see http://photoshotpartner.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/ss45_155372_a05.jpg?w=400
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rik_Makarem

    I think he would be perfect.

  209. Remaal
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Jason Snodgrass,

    I agree. Oded Fehr would be perfect, but if not him then I want Idris Elba as the Viper

  210. Sab
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    No way! Viper = Antonio banderas!

  211. fuelpagan
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Handmaiden of Dany,

    And the Renly curtain call!!!

  212. funlight
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    I always thought Meera was kinda like Chloë Grace Moretz from the movie Hugo when I read the books. I don’t really care if they cast the role, though.

  213. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Is HBO still planning on making American Gods?

    I hope it doesn’t steal any of our dream cast away!!!

  214. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    If we’re getting a Vargo Hoat, does that mean we’ll be getting the Brave Companions as well, or do should we assume he’ll be portrayed as a sort of lone mercenary? I’d imagine if we do get any Bloody Mummers they’ll basically be glorified extras, but it would be pretty cool to see them all cast. Shagwell, in particular, always seemed like a rather colorful character.

  215. Blackfish
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Sab:
    The Kingslayer,

    No way! Viper = Antonio banderas!

    lol i’m sorry but Antonio Bandaras is a bad actor and over rated.

  216. Handmaiden of Dany
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish: lol i’m sorry but Antonio Bandaras is a bad actor and over rated.

    Hey, he is a great Puss in Boots, you have to admit.

  217. KG
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    Ok then we have this thread sewn up :) Next topic!

  218. Blackfish
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Handmaiden of Dany,

    True, he should stick to voice acting for animated movies, plus he is no longer in any physical condition to play the RED VIPER properly.

  219. Bob Loblaw
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Varamyr Fourskins,

    Shagwell is too droll to be cast.

  220. Solar
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    Reek, The Blackfish, and my boy Beric Dondarrion are all I care about.

  221. KG
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    Some folks around these parts have very deep-seated issues, Mr. Swanson. Just smile, nod, and move away like I do.

  222. PJK
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Bob Loblaw,

    Actually, that was my sarcastic way of commenting on the incessant talk about the Reeds and Ramsay Snow. I don’t really care for the Kettleblacks, but they seemed like the perfect example of characters that do have a reasonably large role to play going forward, yet nobody seems to be in an outcry over the fact that they haven’t been cast.

  223. Andrew
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Ah, right you are. I just remember him having grey hair in the last pictures I saw of him, so it made me think he was older. But of course, hair can be dyed.

  224. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu: Oh god, Dany’s storyline was so shitty in ADWD that I fear the show will be cancelled if they follow it the same .

    No way, softcore porn with Emilia Clarke and [fill in the blank hot swarthy actor playing Daario]? Ratings through the roof, my friend!

  225. Nick Larter
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    I could imagine them doing the odd Dornish establishing scene early in S3 – Myrcella, Ellaria and the Viper at the Water Gardens before they set off for K-L – now that would be cool!

  226. Jason Snodgrass
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Darrio Gary Dourdan or Idres Elba. Needs to be some one with some swagger.

  227. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    PJK: Bob Loblaw, Actually, that was my sarcastic way of commenting on the incessant talk about the Reeds and Ramsay Snow. I don’t really care for the Kettleblacks, but they seemed like the perfect example of characters that do have a reasonably large role to play going forward, yet nobody seems to be in an outcry over the fact that they haven’t been cast.

    I’ve been curious about how they’re gonna find 3-4 actors who have enough of a family resemblance to pull them off, since that’s a pretty prominent feature of those characters. My guess is they’ll eliminate at least one, and maybe more.

  228. ThePinkDragon
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Kingthlayer,

    I seem to recall a lot of the characters in American Gods being of ambiguous ethnicity/nationality, so I don’t think stealing a whole bunch of Brits away will be an issue. I could be wrong, though. I didn’t really like that book and find it way over-rated compared to Gaiman’s other stuff.

    Anyway, are we sure that this 11-year-old girl is definitely Shireen Baratheon and not some kind of book change? The first thing I honestly thought was a much younger Meera to mesh better with Bran. Yes, yes, I know, Reeds fangirl and blah blah, but I liked them as characters because I like Bran’s storyline. I don’t care that they’re ‘useless’ or whatever, they’re fun. Could be someone else, though.

    Also, I don’t know anything about casting/acting/the biz, but I don’t feel like they’d see hundreds of little girls just for a part that stands around being weird and sickly and doing nothing half the time. I also really feel like Melisandre’s line this season was to establish that Stannis had no heirs period, not even a sickly little girl — I just rewatched the episode and that’s how it comes off. No sons, no daughters, nothing, zero. And, really, I think the mainstream audience is gonna WTF at the fact that suddenly here comes Stannis’ completely unmentioned daughter out of nowhere.

    Remember as well that HBO removed any mention of Shireen from the Baratheon family tree between seasons one and two — I honestly think that’s indicative of her being cut. They’d leave her there if she was important or going to be featured eventually.

  229. Pink Dragon
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Oh, gee, nevermind, I guess it’s been established that it IS Shireen. Ah well.

    (Although I really don’t think we should be listening to random sources unless we know for sure they’re legit…that’s kinda weird, even for us. ;) )

  230. Jure Maleš
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    i am 100% positive there will be no shireen in season 3 because of the sex scene with stannis and melisandre.
    “she has given you nothing. no sons, only stillborns, only death.”

    so it was established stannis has no children, no heirs, not even a daughter (or she would be at least mentioned).
    greyscale subplot can easily be transported on queen selyse who is sickly and closed in her tower.

  231. Knurk
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    AlexBaratheon:
    Question. It may be a spoiler so I will block it Do you guys think they will CGI the giantsor cast really huge actors??

    in the Empire-article there was already talk of being CGI-Giants in the end of the season.

    And holy hell, Idris Elba as Daario Naaharis would totally make me a Daario-fan!

  232. Superdeluxe
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Want to hear about looking for female actresses ages 16-24 and males 13-18

  233. Knurk
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Jure Maleš:
    i am 100% positive there will be no shireen in season 3 because of the sex scene with stannis and melisandre.
    “she has given you nothing. no sons, only stillborns, only death.”

    so it was established stannis has no children, no heirs, not even a daughter (or she would be at least mentioned).
    greyscale subplot can easily be transported on queen selyse who is sickly and closed in her tower.

    I still think it’s possible. In the tv-show girls cannot be heirs, if we assume the talk between Sansa and Speta Mordane in season 1 holds truth.

  234. Superdeluxe
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    I think based on the recent comments from D&D, and some of the playing around on twitter between someone associated with GoT and a member of the press, I hope so (Although that playing around was totally them playing around, but I hope there is a element of truth to it)

    Maria Batsiou,

  235. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    raciiiiiisttttttttt :P

  236. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Jure Maleš:
    i am 100% positive there will be no shireen in season 3 because of the sex scene with stannis and melisandre.
    “she has given you nothing. no sons, only stillborns, only death.”

    so it was established stannis has no children, no heirs, not even a daughter (or she would be at least mentioned).
    greyscale subplot can easily be transported on queen selyse who is sickly and closed in her tower.

    But Selyse already appeared in the burning of the seven, and she looked fine. The “sickly” mention by Melisandre is probably alluding to some kind of depression.

  237. paylor
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    The Winter Rose,

    Yeah, but that is like two seconds away from being cancelled. I think he’s too big of a name for Mance anyway.
    Rose,

    Yes!!! Dany deserves some action, even though I don’t trust Daario.

  238. Cory Lee Hill
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    Pesonaly I want Andrews for Daario

  239. David
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    They better have Shagwell. He’s the only thing cool about A Feast For Crows.

  240. Coltaine777
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Ser Balon Swann: But Luwin has to stick around Winterfell to try to talk some sense into Theon. If they don’t put the Reeds into Season three, one could create a Manderly to take Rickon off somewhere, shortening that bit of exposition when Davos ends up in White Harbor. My guess, though, is they just keep Rickon and Bran together.

    I like Cillian Murphy for any role …but my pick for Ramsay Snow is Iwan Rheon from Misfits, he’d be perfect and that’s the guy I’m hoping gets cast !!!

  241. Superdeluxe
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Sarah Bolger for meera

  242. Choukai
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    Knurk: in the Empire-article there was already talk of being CGI-Giants in the end of the season.

    And holy hell, Idris Elba as Daario Naaharis would totally make me a Daario-fan!

    As much as I would love Idris Elba to be in my two favourite shows of all time (GoT & The Wire) he’s probably too big for the show now he’s starred in Thor and the upcoming Prometheus.

  243. Superdeluxe
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Just ignore the reed postings, and unless you have proof that they have been cut, then no, we will continue to talk about the reeds in a casting thread

    Kate:
    Please, stop the Reeds nonsense and get over it. They have been cut and so far it is working FINE! And the show’s Osha is much more interesting that the books’ Meera.

  244. Lady Flint
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Thank you GRRM, HBO and WinterisComing. I love everything ASOIAF and I throughly enjoy all the comments and discussions on this site – I laugh out loud, agree, disgree and come away with a wonderful feeling of having friends I don’t even know.

  245. Lana
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    Shinyteapot,

    Iwan Rheon as Ramsay… YES!!! He would be perfect, absolutely perfect, with that uncanny beauty and gleam of lunacy in his eyes. My favorite Misfit. Save me, Barry!

  246. Dreamlife
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    I’m terrible at imagining actors/actresses for roles. Roles I’m most excited for:

    1. Victarion (I dislike the character, but damn he’s a colorful one)
    2. Euron (he’s super scary and I’m hoping through the TV series we will learn more about him and his past).
    3. Mance Rayder (I’ve always pictured him with red hair…kind of like Kristofer Hivju. Hmmm) James Purefoy would do him justice.
    4. Red Viper (Oded Fehr might be out of the show’s budget, but Naveen Andrews could rock this role)
    5. Arianne (I don’t care about her as much as Myrcella’s story; I really hope we get more than we got in the books)
    6. Coldhands Joseph Mawle!!!!
    7. The mysterious guy who shows up at the Citadel (Tom Wlaschiha?!?!?!)

    lol @ Daario. He’s the most flamboyant and unattractive character described in the books and I didn’t like him as a character. Doesn’t he have gold teeth and multi-colored hair? However, I second (or third) bringing Jason Momoa back to play him. He’s about the only guy I can imagine pulling that off

    If they’re casting Daario, this means they’re bring A Dance With Dragons into season 3, which is awesome. Other ADWD characters I am interested in seeing:

    1. Moqorro (probably not until season 4, though, right?) I want Idris Elba in this role!
    2. Bloodraven
    3. Aegon Targaryen
    4. Penny, lol

  247. Tre Svatek
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Dreamlife:

    If they’re casting Daario, this means they’re bring A Dance With Dragons into season 3, which is awesome.

    No, no it doesn’t. Daario is in ASOS.

  248. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    My casting picks:
    Vargo Hoat: Vincent Cassell
    Ramsay Snow: Andrew Scott or Burn Gorman
    Olenna Tyrell: Sian Phillips
    Oberyn Martell: Alexander Siddig
    Ellaria Sand: Sophie Marceau
    Mance Rayder: James Purefoy
    Val: Imogen Poots
    Edmure Tully: Stephen Waddington
    Brynden “Blackfish” Tully: Peter Mullan
    Beric Dondarion: David Thewlis
    Mace Tyrell: Tom Wilkinson
    Qyburn: James Frain
    Randyll Tarly: Brian Cox
    Black Walder: Sean Harris
    Doran Martell: Ciaran Hinds / Giancarlo Giannini would work as well…
    and if they recast her in a bigger role…
    Selyse Baratheon: Fiona Shaw

  249. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    I still think Dustin Clare, from Sparty, would be the perfect Daario.

    http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/files/2012/02/dustin-clare-gannicus-spartacus.jpg

    He is beautiful, cocky and every inch a warrior.

  250. Lana
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Jenny,

    May I just say that I love you for posting these links? Of the two, I would cast Alex; though I find Raffaello the more striking, Alex has something more of the all-important Daario-esque swagger about him. Which of the two would be your choice, I wonder?

  251. CT Wahoo
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Thoughts on when characters appear:

    Red Viper – I think he has to show up in Season 3. Tyrion meets him on his approach to the city to take Doran’s place on the Council. This happens before Joffrey’s wedding, which I would think will take place at the end of Season 3. Tyrion’s court trial and trial by combat will almost certainly be Season 4. But, none of the other Martell clan shows up until AFFC, so I think that will be Season 5 for them.

    Greyjoys – They already skipped Damphair’s appearance in ACOK, so I would think we won’t see him, Euron or Victarion until the Kingsmoot, which was AFFC and, therefore, I would think that’s Season 5 unless they move it up. Even if they do move it up, I would think it’s Season 4 and not 3. Gemma Whelan mentioned that she might make an appearance in Season 3, but I would think that would just be her at Deepwood Motte unless they don’t have her appear at Winterfell this season and they pushed that back.

    I was kind of surprised that they are casting Daario. It’s been a while since I’ve read ASOS, but I did not think he showed up until they were at Mereen. Dany’s story in ASOS covers Astapor, Yunkai and ends right when they took Mereen, but that would need to be spread over Seasons 3 and 4. Maybe Daario showed up earlier in the book than I recall. I would imagine she does not reach Astapor until next season.

    Meera and Jojen – They don’t necessarily have to be cast for Season 3, if at all. It all depends on when they will be inserted into the story. Bran’s arc in ASOS moves very slow. Basically, he makes his way from Winterfell to the Wall and it ends with him being escorted under the Wall by Sam and meeting Coldhands on the other side. Depending on how his story is split between Seasons 3 and 4, its possible the Reed kids could be held off all the way until Season 4. Personally, I think at least one of them will show up before Bran and Rickon split up because, otherwise, there’s not a big enough party to follow them both.

    Speaking of Coldhands, I would guess he’s not until Season 4. I would expect the retreat from this Fist will not go much further than Craster’s Keep in Season 3, so Sam and Gilly’s story from Craster’s to the Wall is probably Season 4.

    I think we will see Riverrun next season, so I would expect Edmure and the Blackfish to be cast. I also think Mance Rayder and Ramsay Snow have to be in. Ditto for Beric Dondarrion (unless they re-use the actor that played him in his brief appearance in Season 1) and Thoros of Myr.

    On the whole, I think there are far fewer new major to mid-major characters to cast for Season 3 compared to Season 2.

  252. Mimsy
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Jenny,

    Seriously, Jenny… why are you posting pictures of my future 2nd and 3rd husbands?!

    Holy guacamole!!!!! O_o

  253. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Mark Ruffalo as Daario. ; )

  254. Sekandar Martell
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Iwan Rheon for Ramsay Snow is a good one.

    I’ve always liked the idea of Naveen Andrews making it into the cast too, whilst I had previously considered the Viper I do find the idea of him playing Areo Hotah intriguing. Not how I pictured the character, but definitely an interesting choice.

  255. Carne
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Glad you mentioned Sean Harris, although I see him as Beric Dondarrion.

    The guy is so talented yet so underrated. We should e-mail his agent and get him to audition for GoT :P

  256. TheDearHunter
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    john,

    If only we could go about 15-20 years in the past to cast him. He is a little old now but he would be the ideal actor. His role in River’s edge was just as crazy and wierd as I always pictured Ramsay.

  257. Ours is the Fury
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    If everyone could please watch the spoilers, that would be great. Use the SPOILER button if you’re posting about anything that has not happened yet. Thanks!

  258. Ryan E
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    Lady Flint: Thank you GRRM, HBO and WinterisComing. I love everything ASOIAF and I throughly enjoy all the comments and discussions on this site – I laugh out loud, agree, disgree and come away with a wonderful feeling of having friends I don’t even know.

    Yeah, I probably laugh more at comments on this site than anywhere else I visit.

  259. Coltaine777
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Arthur:
    I still think Dustin Clare, from Sparty, would be the perfect Daario.

    http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/files/2012/02/dustin-clare-gannicus-spartacus.jpg

    He is beautiful, cocky and every inch a warrior.

    Isn’t he a little busy in Spartacus and why would HBO cast someone from a competitors show ?

  260. panda
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    I kinda want the reeds to be cast cuz i am kinda curious how they deal with the whole bran eating jojen issue. by the way my name is grrm and you guys dunno about the similarity of weirwood paste and frey pie it seems. I think its awesome that the starks are slowly gettin this really creepy streak…

  261. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Coltaine777,

    As I said before, they stole our Mountain.

    And it would cause a lot of buzz.

  262. panda
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Ryan E,

    A man should get a life!

  263. Lana
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    All right, this might seem a bit out there for some, but how about Turkish actor Kivanc Tatlitug for Daario? Handsome, seductive and swaggering. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/691/akmmnu16f.jpg/

  264. Kate
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    At least they have been cut from the already aired stories: they gave Jojen’s dream to Bran. And we both know that with no casting having been anounced and five episodes aired there’s no chance of having them in season 2.

    And yes, it’s only my opinion. Although I’m proud of being in agreement with GRRM himself, who says that Tena’s Osha is amazing and that if he were to rewrite the books he would make tha charater more like her.

    Green Sight: I want Meera Reed now. Not never, now. SHe should be attending the harvest feast in the next episode damnit. Meera is central to Bran’s story line. It’s his love interest for Christ’s sake.

    And we all know that a ten year old boy with the ability to warg into animals and on his way to become a sentinent tree needs a love interest in order to be an interesting character.

  265. John
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Knurk: I still think it’s possible. In the tv-show girls cannot be heirs, if we assume the talk between Sansa and Speta Mordane in season 1 holds truth.

    That’s not what Septa Mordane said. She said that if Sansa had no sons, the throne would pass to Tommen because he’s Joffrey’s brother. That’s not the same as saying that women can’t be heirs because they can. It’s just that they can only be heirs if there are no eligible male heirs first. Let’s take the Baratheons, since that’s what we’re talking about. Robert was the king, and when he died, the throne passed to Joffrey. If something happens to Joffrey, then Tommen would be the new king. After that, the throne would pass to Stannis (not Myrcella), as Robert’s eldest surviving brother. If something happened to Stannis, the throne would pass to Renly if he was still alive. But if both Stannis and Renly were ineligible (and neither had any eligible sons), then the throne would pass to Myrcella, and she would be the queen. Of course, since Joffrey, Tommen and Myrcella are all bastards, that makes Stannis the heir of Robert immediately. And since Robert and Renly are both dead, and because neither had any legitimate children, that means that Shireen is the last of the Baratheons if anything happens to Stannis. So that makes her the heir. Or to take a less convoluted example, the line of successions for the Starks (starting with Ned’s brother Brandon) currently looks like this: Brandon (deceased), Ned (deceased), Robb, Bran, Rickon, Benjen (ineligible–on the Wall), Sansa, Arya. If Robb gets married and has a son, the baby immediately moves ahead of Bran and becomes the new heir. If he has a daughter instead, the baby would be third in the line of succession, behind Bran and Rickon and ahead of Sansa and Arya. And if he later had a son, that baby would move into first.

  266. Row
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    any ethnicity except caucasian = asian?

  267. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    Kate,

    I don’t think we will see Jojen Reed but I think Meera has a strong chance still.

    I wasn’t implying Bran needs Meera to have an interesting story. I am simply stating Meera makes his story MORE interesting.

    Also, so many of you forget or fail to recognize that Bran can warg into Hodor. Judging from the direction of GRRMs writing in the Bran chapters, as weird as this may sound to you, I can imagine Bran warging into Hodor to be with Meera in the future. Why is this fact so far fetched to some people on this site?

    Meera and Jojen are Bran’s friends and motivation to continue on in search of the three-eyed crow. After all that has been taking away from Bran, can’t he have friends? Or will D&D just shortchange Bran since himself and Meera can’t have a sexual relationship because of their age and therefor not be of use to the HBO breast count quota.

  268. Coltaine777
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    Arthur:
    Coltaine777,

    As I said before, they stole our Mountain.

    And it would cause a lot of buzz.

    I just don’t see a major player from Spartacus getting cast in GOT, though I do think he’d be good in GOT…

  269. LoF
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    Naveen Andrews as the Red Viper!

  270. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Coltaine777,

    Yeah….

    But he’d be the best Daario… A lot of the people we are listing are unrealistic.

    A man can wish…

  271. Coltaine777
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Arthur:
    Coltaine777,

    Yeah….

    But he’d be the best Daario…A lot of the people we are listing are unrealistic.

    A man can wish…

    Very true…

  272. Woman_On_The_Wall
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Arvin,

    Oh yeah … lol. Ros is brilliant. Who needs the Reeds when you havd a vapid, non-existent whore to fall back on.

  273. MaryS-NJ
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan,

    I know the Blackfish is popular with fans, but I don’t think he’s really critical to the story. On the other hand, Edmure really is – unless the Red Wedding is someone else’s. I note that so far HBO has named him, Catelyn and Lyssa in the House Tully chart in the Viewers Guide, so I have to assume he’ll make an appearance at some point.

    On the other hand, they haven’t mentioned Shireen on the Baratheon family chart yet and may be casting for her… I wonder if we’ll get Patchface or Edric Storm along with Shireen.

    I’m surprised they’re casting Daario so early. Didn’t he make his first appearance late in book 3? So he’ll be ethnic? Interesting.

  274. Lars
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Kingthlayer: I hope they bring the Dornish in earlier than later – it will mean less explaining later. I will be interested to see how they go about explaining the situation…it seems like it could be potentially confusing and viewers might see the relationship as a little phoned in/left field.love me some red viper. I actually love the Dornish plot lines (unlike many). They are just badass: Darkstar, Red Viper, Sand Snakes…

    While it would be nice, it just isn’t practical to bring in any of the Dornish characters until season 4, I think. (and then only the Viper – the rest can probably wait until season 5) Introducing them earlier would just increase an HUGE cast, and HUGE # of characters that viewers have to keep track of. They need to hold off on introducing characters until they are needed. We are already packed full, practically overflowing, with characters in season 2.

    I firmly believe that the Red Viper will be a season 4-only character – even if season 3 ends with the PW. That would allow them to build an a season long arc for him, culminating in his death in episode 8 or 9. It works dramatically, and simplifies casting – the actor will only appear in one season.

    I do believe the Reeds are pushed to season 3, but some tweaked version of them will be needed for Bran’s plot – Otherwise he spends TWO SEASONS on a forest trek to the wall. Having Bran & company stop at a place where they can hide out for a while, while getting to know the Reeds will be a good way of padding his plot.

  275. RJB
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    wow Oded Fehr would make an awesome Oberyn!!

  276. andrea
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Knurk: Idris Elba as Daario Naaharis

    hey! don´t touch my actors!!!

  277. Prince of Winterfell
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Instead of casting the Reeds we can just have Theon actually kill Bran and Rickon x] elimanating the need for the blood raven storyline. Just a thought

  278. Prince of Winterfell
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Arthur:
    Kate,

    I don’t think we will see Jojen Reed but I think Meera has a strong chance still.

    I wasn’t implying Bran needs Meera to have an interesting story.I am simply stating Meera makes his story MORE interesting.

    Also, so many of you forget or fail to recognize that Bran can warg into Hodor.Judging from the direction of GRRMs writing in the Bran chapters, as weird as this may sound to you, I can imagine Bran warging into Hodor to be with Meera in the future.Why is this fact so far fetched to some people on this site?

    Meera and Jojen are Bran’s friends and motivation to continue on in search of the three-eyed crow.After all that has been taking away from Bran, can’t he have friends? Or will D&D just shortchange Bran since himself and Meera can’t have a sexual relationship because of their age and therefor not be of use to the HBO breast count quota.

    Thats disgusting. Meera is 16 and Hodor is an adult

  279. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Prince of Winterfell,

    But…

    What if GRRM plans on having Bran sit upon the Iron Thron, as Hodor. With Jojen as the hand and Meera as his Queen?

    Hah… Got you there! =P

  280. From Chaos
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    I just hope we get the Brave Companions and the Brotherhood, really hope D&D cut the Reeds and Tullys.

  281. Ingemar Svensson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    Hmm, Daario with an ethnic look. I wonder what that will do to his blue hair. Hard to make that look good for non-white people.

  282. aaron
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Damryn of Dorne,

    a million times yes. i am absolutely not intimidated by this new guy.

  283. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    I also find it rather odd that we are all talking about a fantasy book that takes place in medieval times where girls are considered women the moment they “flower” and are married off to grown men for a political reason that when ever I talk about ANYTHING that has to do with a phisical relationship involving Meera all I ever hear is, “That is disgusting she is 16!”.

    In this time and age, yes I would agree that is disgusting…

    But we are talking about the same medieval fantasy book right? Please try to keep my Meera references in the “medieval fantasy book” element. Is that to hard to ask?

  284. Mrs. Wun
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    It casts The Queen of Thorns or else it gets the hose again…

  285. Mike Chair
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Naveen Andrews for anything. But alas, he on the new Sinbad series on Sky1 in July.
    Speaking of the LOST cast, Jorge Garcia as Strong Belwas (just kidding).

  286. sunspear
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Prince of Winterfell:
    Instead of casting the Reeds we can just have Theon actually kill Bran and Rickon x] elimanating the need for the blood raven storyline. Just a thought

    That would be hilarious actually. Major punch in the gut to us book readers.

    Lars,

    There’s no way they could stretch out Tyrion’s trial for that long. I’m guessing he arrives around episode 4 season 3 regardless of when they end the season.

  287. Connobar
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    What about Patchface? From the sea is he. He’s important I know, I know..

  288. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    CT Wahoo,

    They didn’t skip Damphair, he was the one doing theons “christening”.

  289. Langkard
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    I’m very happy to hear that they are casting a Shireen! Or possibly doing so. Shireen plays a very important but seemingly minor role. She introduces us to Greyscale! And those who read ADWD know just how very important that is going to become for some other characters. (*cough* Jon Connington *cough*) It’s nice to know that the producers are thinking that far ahead.

    The guy up for a possible Tormund role looks great!

    If we have Shireen, does that make it more likely we’ll also have Strong Belwas? I hope so!

  290. Langkard
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Damryn of Dorne,

    Didn’t Brian Cogman or one of the other writers state that the person we saw in that episode was not Damphair?

  291. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Oh snap! …….

    Anyway, I see a lot of people pimping Oded Fehr for Oberyn, and I’m honestly curious as to why. The guy is a pretty bad actor and has next to no charisma in anything I’ve seen him in, so I can only imagine it must be more about how he looks. Maybe not.

    Alexander Siddig or Cliff Simon would be my top choices, and I’d throw Naveen Andrews in as a back-up.

    Alexander Siddig: http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTIxMjYwMTA3MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDQxODYzMQ@@._V1._SY314_CR7,0,214,314_.jpg

    Cliff Simon: http://www.thescifiworld.net/img/interviews/cliff_simon_02.jpg

    Naveen Andrews: http://www.naveen-andrews.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Naveen-Andrews.jpg

    And just to throw it in on the whole Reed’s thing; I’d be willing to bet we’ll see one of them and it will more than likely be Meera. Who should be played by Saoirse Ronan: http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/22860/saoirse_ronan_22860.jpg

  292. Knurk
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    John: That’s not what Septa Mordane said. She said that if Sansa had no sons, the throne would pass to Tommen because he’s Joffrey’s brother. That’s not the same as saying that women can’t be heirs because they can. It’s just that they can only be heirs if there are no eligible male heirs first. Let’s take the Baratheons, since that’s what we’re talking about. Robert was the king, and when he died, the throne passed to Joffrey. If something happens to Joffrey, then Tommen would be the new king. After that, the throne would pass to Stannis (not Myrcella), as Robert’s eldest surviving brother. If something happened to Stannis, the throne would pass to Renly if he was still alive. But if both Stannis and Renly were ineligible (and neither had any eligible sons), then the throne would pass to Myrcella, and she would be the queen. Of course, since Joffrey, Tommen and Myrcella are all bastards, that makes Stannis the heir of Robert immediately. And since Robert and Renly are both dead, and because neither had any legitimate children, that means that Shireen is the last of the Baratheons if anything happens to Stannis. So that makes her the heir. Or to take a less convoluted example, the line of successions for the Starks (starting with Ned’s brother Brandon) currently looks like this: Brandon (deceased), Ned (deceased), Robb, Bran, Rickon, Benjen (ineligible–on the Wall), Sansa, Arya. If Robb gets married and has a son, the baby immediately moves ahead of Bran and becomes the new heir. If he has a daughter instead, the baby would be third in the line of succession, behind Bran and Rickon and ahead of Sansa and Arya. And if he later had a son, that baby would move into first.

    well if that’s the succession-rule (lol, getting complicated there D&D) Melisandre was still talking truth that Stannis has no heirs during their sex-scene as Renly is his heir at that moment. So if they write Shireen in it’s still not a continuity-error, though they probably should have written that line of Melisandre a bit different to avoid confusion.

    Damryn of Dorne:
    CT Wahoo,

    They didn’t skip Damphair, he was the one doing theons “christening”.

    that was not Damphair.

  293. kingthlayer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    Lars,

    I don’t think they need to bring the actors in, they just need to start explaining all the “issues” that the Dornish have with the rest of Westeros – I just fear an info dump that will seem out of place all at once. That’s why one character (like the Viper) should at least show up earlier than later to get some casual exposition in.

  294. Langkard
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    I think an obligatory demand that Fionnula Flanagan be cast as Lady Olenna, the Queen of Thorns, is called for at this point in the discussion.

  295. Natans
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    So Daario can be of any race except caucasian huh !?!

    Let me see how I know that have blue hair, likes to brag a lot and has a crush for blondes girls.

    I have the right man for the job ;)

    http://sportv.globo.com/platb/files/9/2009/09/vagner_love_biito.jpg

  296. Fann
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Oberyn and the Sand Snakes please!

    Can’t wait until Dorne is in the picture.

  297. Morgan King
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Post-aDwD spoilers:

    GRRM is clearly working towards a Bran and Meera and, so horrific!, Hodor sex scene up in that cave. I can easily see Bran ending up on the evil side of the Westeros spectrum, too – broken and resentful, family killed, access to the history of the world’s evils but too young to really make sense of it? That’s trouble.

  298. Morgan King
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Those are Damphair’s lines from the book. I’ve seen that stated a few times here – based on what is that definitively not Damphair?

  299. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    For Daario Naharis, this one suggests Jesse Williams (of Grey’s Anatomy).

    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3092561152/nm2222264

  300. Michael
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    If I made t-shirts or bumberstickers I’d make one for “Momoa = Daario 2012″!

    I really think it would be an interesting bit of casting, since he looks so different out of the Khal Drogo make-up, but resemblance would totally explain why Dany falls for Daario. If there is any way for Jason Momoa to rejoin GOT, being cast as Daario has to be at the top of the list!

  301. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Natans:
    So Daario can be of any race except caucasian huh !?!

    Let me see how I know that have blue hair, likes to brag a lot and has a crush for blondes girls.

    I have the right man for the job ;)

    http://sportv.globo.com/platb/files/9/2009/09/vagner_love_biito.jpg

    HAHA! This one LOL’d!

  302. Danielle
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    Dan,

    Absolutely! There is no one else I will accept (strangely I also felt he should have played Cinna in The Hunger Games, could they be more opposite characters? :) )

  303. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Morgan King,

    Wow,

    Really good point. I never thought of that. I mean I picked up on the Hodor/Meera thing but you are right that Bran can become a hellbent revenge-type person that only someone with a childs understanding can become. I don’t know if it is consider “evil” per se.

    But I see your point and I can see Bran being a “wildcard” so to speak in things yet to come. What you are saying that Bran may become, and how he can use his powers, is something that reminds me of Butler’s character in that movie “Law Abiding Citizen”.

    And whats more, that can really give us that feeling of justice for Bran, while at the same time feel bad for the man who broke Bran… Is if GRRM eventually has Jaime killed by Bran own warging hands.

  304. Emma
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Ingemar Svensson,

    Because white men look so good with colorful, dyed hair? ;)

  305. Knurk
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Morgan King:
    Knurk,

    Those are Damphair’s lines from the book. I’ve seen that stated a few times here – based on what is that definitively not Damphair?

    the producers said so.

  306. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    My picks…

    This would be my dream casting for these characters. I know we probably can’t afford any of them but damn it would be awesome!

    1). Kevin Mckidd as Mance Rayder.
    http://www.buddytv.com/articles/rome/images/kevin-mckidd-1.jpg

    2). Ron Perlman as Tormund Giantsbane.
    http://static.moviefanatic.com/images/gallery/ron-perlman-as-felson_573x378.jpg

    3). Dustin Clare as Daario.
    http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTA5ODczODI3NDBeQTJeQWpwZ15BbWU3MDA3ODE0NTQ@._V1._SX214_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg

    4). Saoirse Ronan as Meera.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j3w9X8gg90I/TZS7q45Qw6I/AAAAAAAAAac/RK8EtWv9Rx8/s1600/HannaPressCon00.jpg

    5). James Purefoy as The Red Viper.
    http://www.celebrity8x10s.com/photos/p/Purefoy_James_Rome_49852l.jpg

  307. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    I think the producers suck, im saying it was damphair :P

  308. Ser Butthole Surfer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Why do people keep suggesting Spanish and Latino actors for the dornish characters..? it would make no sense for them to have a Spanish accent in Westeros where everybody speaks the same language. I’ve always kinda thought the Dornish spoke with a regional accent kind of like the American deep south.

    I think a lot of the characters left out will eventually show up, plot lines are going to need to be stretched out. especially if ASOS is going to be 2 seasons…and think about what they are going to have to do for AFOC…

  309. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Ser Butthole Surfer,

    Why do people keep suggesting Spanish and Latino actors for the dornish characters..? it would make no sense for them to have a Spanish accent in Westeros where everybody speaks the same language. I’ve always kinda thought the Dornish spoke with a regional accent kind of like the American deep south.

    From reading the books, I personally always felt that the Dornish were more of an “Arab” type people. You know, a desert tribe type culture. Very Arabic sounding to me, and also it would match their darker skin.

  310. Ser Butthole Surfer
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I gathered that GRRM took the Moorish invasion of Spain as the influence for the Dornish. They are my favorite part of the books, not being white myself its always been hard for me to get into all the overtly Anglo fantasy series.

  311. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    Ser Butthole Surfer,

    I like the Dornish because their women are hot and ruthless warriors that will seduce you, lay with you then slice your throat…

    And The Red Viper is just one of the most badass characters in the book.

  312. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Speaking of Dorne, do you guys think they’ll change Nymeria Sand’s name so that viewers won’t confuse her with Arya’s direwolf?

    lol

  313. Remy
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    Coltaine777,

    that would be sick… :) He can make it even more twisted

  314. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Prince of Winterfell: Thats disgusting. Meera is 16 and Hodor is an adult

    Well Arthur is 16 and lusts after Natalie Dormer, so not much of a difference.

  315. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    Hah,

    That’s actually pretty funny! =]

    But who doesn’t lust for Natalie Dormer?

  316. Weirwood
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    Ser Butthole Surfer,

    From a http://gameofthrones.wikia.com:

    ” The Dornishmen are ethnically distinct from the rest of the Seven Kingdoms, being largely descended from Rhoynar refugees who intermarried with the local population of Andals and First Men roughly a thousand years ago. As a result they have very different customs and traditions compared to the other regions of Westeros.”

    http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Dorne

  317. Zack
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Connie: They will probably cast a random dwarf for the sequence Penny is first in, but where she has no dialogue or lines and is basically a glorified extra They may even go with a male actor for that first sequence she appears in. Like the caged 3 at the end of Season 1, they were all recast properly for Season 2. When time comes for her proper introduction in book 5, they’ll have hired the proper actress.

    Or they could just write around GRRMs worst character ever, since they have managed to write around GOOD characters like the Blackfish to this point…

  318. Skipjack
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know that they need to introduce the Red Viper in season 3 but the show would be better than the books if they bring the Martells in earlier. By the time the Martells show up in A Feast for Crows many book readers are wondering who are these interlopers and why do we have to deal with them now? It basically feels like a tremendous amount of treading water.

    If the Martells have more of a presence in the game earlier it won’t feel like the show has to stop everything just to introduce them/remind people that they matter. That is, if they matter which is arguable.

  319. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    Here’s how the ASOIAF trading cards game (which I just found out exists after googling it) presents the Dornish women:

    Arianne
    http://idrawgirls.com/images/2011Q3/arianne-martell-xia-taptara.jpg
    http://www.cardgamedb.com/forums/uploads/1281901920/gallery_34_213170.jpg

    Nymeria
    http://geloefogo.com.br/wiki/images/thumb/a/a5/Lady_Nymeria_por_quickreaver.jpg/300px-Lady_Nymeria_por_quickreaver.jpg

    Obara
    http://agot9players.free.fr/Cards/House/Martell/Obara-Sand.jpg

    They don’t look caucasian to me, except maybe for Nymeria.

    I definitely hope they go with a more ethnically diverse cast when casting the Dornish.

    But yeah, ahead of the game here. Not Season 3 material.

  320. Ren Snow
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:42 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    They did skip Damphair… Theon is baptized by some random Drowned Man

  321. LordStarkington
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:43 pm | Permalink

    Zack: Or they could just write around GRRMs worst character ever, since they have managed to write around GOOD characters like the Blackfish to this point…

    Watch it, if we start calling Penny that, Darkstar loses his hook to get into the series.

  322. Hexonx
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    Those are Damphair’s lines from the book. I’ve seen that stated a few times here – based on what is that definitively not Damphair?

    I’m pretty sure B.Cogman confirmed it in that hour long webcast a while ago (where he took some shit for pronouncing it like “damfair” instead of damp hair). Called the guy in the scene something like “random religious guy.” Not sure how good of an actor that guy is but his voice was awesome and I particularly liked his delivery of “… but rises again”

  323. Morgan King
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:50 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Can I get a link? Because it wouldn’t make much sense to take away one of Damphair’s biggest (non-Kingsmoot) scenes and give it someone else if they actually intended to give him a role on the show.

    If Cogman denied it, it’s more to save recasting the character for when he potentially does more in the future books, I guess?

  324. KG
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    It’s disgusting that Dany was 14 too. I strongly suspect GRRM has a “TOO OLD” t-shirt somewhere in his possession. There’s something seriously wrong with you folks, sexualizing children and getting all upset when people call you on it.

  325. Morgan King
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:56 pm | Permalink

    KG,

    What connotes a ‘child’ was EXTREMELY different in medieval times, though – girls who’d had their period once were ready for procreative sex, and life expectancies were much shorter, so a boy’s adolescence was much shorter and earlier. That’s surely the world GRRM has based ASOIAF on, it’s modern audiences sensibilities that are the problem.

  326. Arthur
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    KG,

    Hah!

    Yeah I agree it is disgusting in a modern times viewpoint but people on here keep forgetting this is based on medieval fantasy times in a book that girls of 14-16 were considered “women grown”.

    It just gets annoying when other posters forget we are talking about this fantasy/medieval world and not reallife and accuse me of being sick because they are forget that…

    Know what I mean?

    You can persist to think you are “calling me out on it” all you want. It saddens me you do not have the mental capacity to seperate fictional characters in a fictional medieval world from our modern reality. Do not think your intellectual shortcomings in anyway mean I am a sick person.

  327. Cal Van Hamacek
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    Me = Ramsay snow

  328. LordDavos12
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    Derailment, derailment everywhere!

    Also, to whoever posted about the Shireen/family tree thing, I’m pretty sure she was actually on it during season 1. I could totally be wrong, but I could swear I remember seeing her name on there, and then for some reason HBO took it off once season 2 started. Apologies for not quoting whoever mentioned it; reading 300 posts made me lazy.

  329. Cal Van Hamacek
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    Anyone have any ideas on how to contact Nina without an agent? I’d be curious to audition for the part of Ramsay seriously. I’m sort of tall and thin, but that could add to the character’s creepiness :)

  330. Tywin's golden shit
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    Man oh man, are we all not huge A Song of Ice and Fire fans? We should be happy that this amazing series is even on television with half the shit they put on there. We should expect changes, however major or minor they are, the series is just too massive to tell in its entirety. This of course everyone on here I’m sure knows, but still the arguments about the Reeds and Ramsay are viable and legitimate, a lot of people have some creative ideas for what the show runners could do to make this complex story more efficient for television. I will have to say it is going to be hard not to have the Reeds and especially the Bastard of Bolton himself, they are too important to the story so far. We cannot fully predict what they will do because GRRM hasn’t gotten that far, so sure they leave out the Reeds and do some weird shit with Rickon and what if he becomes really important? He’s most likely in Skagos ruling with the cannibals, who knows just a thought. But we should all have faith in Dave and Dan and most importantly George RR Martin, he has never let us down so far, sure we have our dislikes and likes about the books, but can we all agree that every bit of A Song of Ice and Fire is fucking bad ass? So what if you think the Reeds are useless, they’re badass in their own light, not everyone can be the Red Viper or Ramsay or a Stark. So let’s just trust the men who are fans themselves of the series and have faith that the show is going to be a big fucking hit, it already is so what do we got to worry about? Besides some our favorite characters not making the cut?!?!?!?!?!?!? Seven Hells, Artsan Whitebeard where are you!?!?!? Oh and how about we worry about the really bad ass scenes, the Viper and Mountain duel and one of the sweetest scenes in the book series involving a fighting pit, a whip and some delectable locusts. And maybe I’m looking too far into the future, but Azor Ahai…. But like I said, trust and faith… trust and faith…. May the gods watch over us all.

  331. StaceyJ
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    Interesting rumor.
    Casting already. Who would they cast for Mance Ryder? He’s be the big one to cast so I read online. And what about Dorne? Will they cast anybody from there?

  332. Lex
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    Cal Van Hamacek:
    Me = Ramsay snow

    Do you have large, wormy lips? ;)

  333. Tyrion Sedai
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:20 am | Permalink

    Morgan King:
    Knurk,

    Can I get a link? Because it wouldn’t make much sense to take away one of Damphair’s biggest (non-Kingsmoot) scenes and give it someone else if they actually intended to give him a role on the show.

    If Cogman denied it, it’s more to save recasting the character for when he potentially does more in the future books, I guess?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK4Ve0PFOk0&t=51m0s

  334. Weirwood
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    KG:
    Arthur,

    It’s disgusting that Dany was 14 too. I strongly suspect GRRM has a “TOO OLD” t-shirt somewhere in his possession. There’s something seriously wrong with you folks, sexualizing children and getting all upset when people call you on it.

    One of my sisters was pregnant at 14 and another at 15, some “children” are “sexualized” all on their own. Late-teen Age of Consent laws are a very new thing in most or OUR Earth cultures.

    Ever hear of coming-of-age rituals such as Bat Mitzvahs or Quinceaneras?

    But we are talking about medieval fantasy after all….. even though this part is based on reality. Don’t forget that before modern medicine and technology life expectancy was much shorter. But girls can and do still have sex and get pregnant in their early teens even today.

  335. LordDavos12
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    Lex,

    And does he take pleasure in flaying fingers one by one and castrating certain squid? :0D

  336. Arthur
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    Lex,

    “Do you have large, wormy lips? ;)”

    What the hell? Lol… Is that a pickup line or something? That’s funny…

  337. Weirwood
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    Cal Van Hamacek,

    IMDB Pro usually has links to agents contact information.

  338. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    Carne,

    He has a good chance. Harris was in Red Riding which also had Sean Bean, Joseph Mawle and Mark Addy. I hope they pull Peter Mullan for the Blackfish, that would be beyond awesome.

    As much as I love Harris, Thewlis would be awesome as Dondarrion. Plus we will have both Lupin and Tonks on the show.

  339. LordDavos12
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    Hmm…Meera and Brodor sex? I can hear it already:

    ….hodor…………hodor………..hodor………hodor…….Hodor..Hodor…Hodor..Hodor….HODORHODORHODORHODORHODORHODORHODOR…………………hodor. *lights cigarette*

  340. Lex
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    Arthur:
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:22 am | Permalink
    Lex,

    What the hell? Lol… Is that a pickup line or something? That’s funny…

      

    No, but it’s one of Ramsay’s defining features.

    Anyway, this whole Shireen thing just feels… wrong. Probably one of the least significant characters in the series. Would they really be seeing “hundreds” of child actors??

  341. Arthur
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:30 am | Permalink

    LordDavos12,

    Hahahaaa!

    HODORRRRRRR! *sleeps*

  342. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:31 am | Permalink

    Arthur:
    Steven Swanson,

    Hah,

    That’s actually pretty funny!=]

    But who doesn’t lust for Natalie Dormer?

    More than lust after Kristian Nairn, I’m guessing.

  343. Lex
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:31 am | Permalink

    Oh, Sean Harris was the assassin from The Borgias. He was good!

  344. LordDavos12
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    Lex: No, but it’s one of Ramsay’s defining features.

    Anyway, this whole Shireen thing just feels… wrong. Probably one of the least significant characters in the series. Would they really be seeing “hundreds” of child actors??

    It’s obviously so they can set up Patchface, because he is Azor Ahai reborn. It is known! :)

  345. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Zack: Or they could just write around GRRMs worst character ever, since they have managed to write around GOOD characters like the Blackfish to this point…

    “Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night.” Penny ain’t got nothing on that.

  346. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    LordStarkington: Watch it, if we start calling Penny that, Darkstar loses his hook to get into the series.

    Hey man, you stole my thunder!

  347. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    KG:
    Arthur,

    It’s disgusting that Dany was 14 too. I strongly suspect GRRM has a “TOO OLD” t-shirt somewhere in his possession. There’s something seriously wrong with you folks, sexualizing children and getting all upset when people call you on it.

    To be fair, 14 isn’t entirely a child, I’ve known plenty of people who were sexually active that age or younger. Not with a gigantic adult killing machine, but still….

  348. Mimsy
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    KG: KG
    Posted May 2, 2012 at 11:52 pm | Permalink
    Arthur,

    It’s disgusting that Dany was 14 too. I strongly suspect GRRM has a “TOO OLD” t-shirt somewhere in his possession. There’s something seriously wrong with you folks, sexualizing children and getting all upset when people call you on it.

    What’s disgusting to us in this day and age was perfectly natural in earlier times. My grandmother (born 1900) met her husband when she was 14 and he was 27. They were married for some 25 years before he passed away due to an accident. Their marriage was respectful and loving and she loved him until she passed away at 91 years of age.

    I certainly wouldn’t approve of my daughter marrying so young in this day and age, but back in the day and Westeros time, it’s perfectly natural to not be on the “shelf” past a certain age.

  349. SJGIM
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:40 am | Permalink

    Has there been confirmation there will be a Queen of Thorns? The impression I have gotten with the direction they seem to be taking Margery is that they won’t cast her and will have Margery fill both roles.

    Also off topic but:
    I haven’t been reading the comments for awhile and am frankly shocked to see people complaining about the casting of Gemma Whelan as Yara *winces at the name* after seeing her in the role. It always seemed apparent to me that Asha was attractive and sexy not because she was any kind of bombshell but because she was so confident in herself and could handle herself in a fight. That combination of simply being a warrior woman and confident seems like it would be enough to attract ironborne men. Gemma is attractive in her own right, and seems to pull off the attitude perfectly to me. And she could plausibly kick ass with an ax.

  350. LordDavos12
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    SJGIM:
    Has there been confirmation there will be a Queen of Thorns? The impression I have gotten with the direction they seem to be taking Margery is that they won’t cast her and will have Margery fill both roles.

    Also off topic but:
    I haven’t been reading the comments for awhile and am frankly shocked to see people complaining about the casting of Gemma Whelan as Yara *winces at the name* after seeing her in the role. It always seemed apparent to me that Asha was attractive and sexy not because she was any kind of bombshell but because she was so confident in herself and could handle herself in a fight. That combination of simply being a warrior woman and confident seems like it would be enough to attract ironborne men. Gemma is attractive in her own right, and seems to pull off the attitude perfectly to me. And she could plausibly kick ass with an ax.

    I don’t mind Gemma’s interpretation of Asha…minus one nitpick. Same exact nitpack I have of Lena Headey…they only seem to use one fucking face. Lena with the constant eyebrow up/brow furrowed, Gemma with the perpetual stinkface sneer. We get it, she’s a hardass.

  351. SJGIM
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    Zack,

    I wouldn’t say Penny is the WORST character. There are so many heavy hitting powerful characters in the book that it’s almost refreshing to get a character that is so obviously out of her element, and is aware of it. Note we first meet her after she lost the only real constant in her life, and right as she is taken from the lifestyle she has grown accustom to and is therefore capable in. We are also seeing her interactions from and with the point of view of someone that she views as responsible for her brother’s death.

  352. Arthur
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    LordDavos12,

    “Lena with the constant eyebrow up/brow furrowed.”

    That’s kind of funny you mention that. I was talking to my brother about how she has that constant classic “stuck up bitch” look to her because that eyebrow is like plucked and glowed with that arch…

    Perfect for Cersei snobbish bitchy attitude…

  353. Morgan King
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Sedai,

    Thanks! That COMPLETELY sounds to me like they just didn’t want to add a named character. If that’s actually NOT Damphair, then he’s simply just not going to be in the show. Those early days on Pyke are most of his content (so far) and barring a huge moment in the unpublished books it seems like he’s been removed from the TV version. Anyone who is reading that interview with the prospect that MAYBE Damphair is showing up later is deluding themselves – that’s pretty clearly as much as we’re getting (which is fine, though I think it’s an awesome character). That’s Damphair as much as we’re getting him in the show – if we didn’t get him there, then we aren’t getting him at all. Like he says in the interview ‘in some cases we’re cutting them.’

  354. MoonCoffee
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    John: It’s just that they can only be heirs if there are no eligible male heirs first. Let’s take the Baratheons, since that’s what we’re talking about. Robert was the king, and when he died, the throne passed to Joffrey. If something happens to Joffrey, then Tommen would be the new king. After that, the throne would pass to Stannis (not Myrcella), as Robert’s eldest surviving brother. If something happened to Stannis, the throne would pass to Renly if he was still alive. But if both Stannis and Renly were ineligible (and neither had any eligible sons), then the throne would pass to Myrcella, and she would be the queen.

    If the TV show does this, then they’re not following the book. Inheritance in Westeros minus Dorne follows the firstborn male line, but the daughter of a first son inherits before the second son. We see this in the case of the Karstarks, where Alys is the heiress before her uncles. So Myrcella would inherit the Iron Throne before Stannis, Shireen before Renly for Dragonstone, and Cersei before Kevan for Casterly Rock.

  355. Arthur
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:55 am | Permalink

    Just in case any of you missed it.

    Here is the upgraded GoTs intro sequence that we will be seeing this coming Sunday.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25KABvPbq-U&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  356. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:55 am | Permalink

    SJGIM,

    I love Gemma as Yara. Most people bitch about the casting because she isn’t “pretty” or “a foxy warrior” or whatever. You know how fanboys can be.

    She was a lot of fun last episode: “Stop! We yield!”

  357. Spryte
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    Arthur:
    KG,

    It saddens me you do not have the mental capacity to seperate fictional characters in a fictional medieval world from our modern reality.

    Projecting much? Ugh, you give me the creeps. It’s not even about fictional age in the context of the story anymore. You’ve been going on and on about Meera and “objectifying” her this entire thread to an obsessive amount. That’s what’s especially gross about your comment about her and Hodor, like it’s some kind of fantasy of yours. I kinda hope they don’t cast Meera just because I’m afraid for the young actress who would potentially play her and gain an automatic Arthur stalker.

    She isn’t real, man!

  358. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:01 am | Permalink

    Asha is described as having a nose too big for her face. I never thought of her as a beauty. Gemma’s portrayal is fine with me.

  359. Arthur
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:02 am | Permalink

    Spryte,

    Wow…

    I also got very opinionated about CGI Greywind. Do you fear I have a “thing” for Greywind and will stalk him as well.

    Some of you people are just unreal.

  360. SJGIM
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:03 am | Permalink

    LordDavos12,

    lol. I just assumed that that is Yara’s public face, having to constantly remind the men around her that she is a hardass, and then she emphasizes it when mocking Theon. I guess I just sort of accept those expressions (on both ladies) as their interpretation of the character.

  361. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:06 am | Permalink

    Mance Rayder seems to be the biggest and most important addition to the season 3 cast. I really don’t think it will be difficult to cast. I’ll nominate John Hawkes for the role. He has worked with HBO in the past.

  362. Weirwood
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    This age of consent thing is truly funny. In many countries today the age of consent is 14 years old including Italy, Germany, Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Iceland, Liechtenstein and Spain.

    And in the United States in the 1880s the age of consent was 10-12 (Delaware was 7). Most states changed it to 14-16 in the early 1900s and then to 16-18 by 1920.

    We tend to infantilize our teens in the States IMO. Most of my friends were having sex long before it was “legal” to do so.

  363. Weirwood
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Ghost is MUCH hotter! Just sayin’….

  364. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    SJGIM:
    Zack,

    I wouldn’t say Penny is the WORST character. There are so many heavy hitting powerful characters in the book that it’s almost refreshing to get a character that is so obviously out of her element, and is aware of it. Note we first meet her after she lost the only real constant in her life, and right as she is taken from the lifestyle she has grown accustom to and is therefore capable in. We are also seeing her interactions from and with the point of view of someone that she views as responsible for her brother’s death.

    Exactly, she’s a very ordinary, not all that intelligent or interesting woman/girl who happens to be a dwarf, and the latter is the primary reason she’s in the story. Which actually feels real to me, but she really rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

  365. Arthur
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    Weirwood,

    Lol…

    These people are unreal with what they try to imply. People who read these posts know I am passionate about things.

    I also complain a lot about The Mountain and wish Conan was still casted. Does that mean I have a “thing” for Conan and want to stalk him?

    Ghost is the coolest though. If I were to be a Direwolf stalker then I’d stalk Ghost… =]

    Oh yeah! And I MUST be a Natalie Dormer stalker! All my “she is so hot” jokes must mean I have a “thing” for her as well.

  366. MoonCoffee
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:16 am | Permalink

    On Yara: Looks-wise I don’t have a problem with Gemma Whelan, even if she doesn’t have the ‘lean’ look Asha is described as. She looks like someone who can reasonably captain an Ironborn ship (though I’d need to see arm muscles to be convinced she can juggle axes), and she’s unconventionally alluring with all that confidence. I don’t really like that Yara is so serious though. Asha is fun, amiable, laughs a lot and not just derisive laugh. She makes fun of Theon, yes, but only to him and not outright humiliate him in front of his men. She even asks to talk in private before telling Theon how stupid his actions in Winterfell is. I also like Asha for being rational about what needs to be done for peace (bend the knee) during the Kingsmoot and yet Yara blew up at Theon for suggesting Balon surrender.

    On Daario: Someone in tumblr suggested Kiwan Landreth-Smith and I can’t help but agree. I mean look at that smug face.

  367. Alec Trev
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:17 am | Permalink

    Looking at Oded Fehr’s recent schedule, I can’t imagine he’s out of this show’s price range.

  368. Weirwood
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:19 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I know it’s not easy (when they attack so vehemently and with such outrageous accusations) but the best thing to do is just laugh it off…. after all it must be sarcasm…. because no one is seriously that stupid. Either that or they are reading something into your posts that only exists in their own twisted minds. ;) Either way…. it’s just the internet, people….

  369. Lex
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:20 am | Permalink
  370. Arthur
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:23 am | Permalink

    Weirwood,

    You know that’s really good advice. It’s responding to their BS that gets me in trouble. I should probably just ignore it. Thanks!

  371. Weirwood
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:28 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    It took me awhile to realize that ignoring some people is really the best route online…. I am still learning. Some people simply cannot be rationalized with…. and choose to be eternally offended. So with that, I will drop this subject :)

  372. LordDavos12
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:32 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Mance Rayder seems to be the biggest and most important addition to the season 3 cast. I really don’t think it will be difficult to cast.I’ll nominate John Hawkes for the role. He has worked with HBO in the past.

    Loved Hawkes in Deadwood…but I’m not sure he can pull off Mance. I’m not disparaging your suggestion, I just think someone else would do better. Hawkes is a great actor…but I don’t think he has the gravitas/voice to do Mance.

  373. Arthur
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    LordDavos12,

    What do you think of Kevin Mckidd as Mance?

  374. ScottsdaleSam
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:39 am | Permalink

    MoonCoffee: I don’t really like that Yara is so serious though.

    This. Also my same nitpick with Renly, though in the end I got over it with him.

  375. LordDavos12
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Unfortunately, I haven’t seen enough of him to throw my hat in that corner. I’ve only seen him in Percy Jackson and various Rome episodes (wasn’t too big on that show). From what I know, I can see it happening, but I’m guessing someone we would never have thought as Mance will get the part.

  376. SJGIM
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:48 am | Permalink

    MoonCoffee,

    Because during the kingsmoot they are at a different point. At this point, knowing they are going for the north, and considering who Theon is asking them to bend the knee to, it makes sense. As for humiliating him, did you forget the Finger dance scene at the dining table? That was done in front of pretty much everyone if I remember correctly. I don’t see her as being too serious, but that is just different interpretations from reading the book. *Shrugs*

    I like the actor you linked for Daario.

  377. Thethoughtful1
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:02 am | Permalink

    Im for Maggie Smith for the role of the Queen Of Thorns! Tut! Tut!

  378. Ismael Isak
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:13 am | Permalink

    AlexBaratheon,

    Umm the giants are huge and super hairy. Also they ride mamouths into battle. So defintely CGI.

  379. Ismael Isak
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:17 am | Permalink

    FlayedManofBK,

    how do you know that

  380. Weirwood
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:22 am | Permalink

    Peter Wingfield could play Mance:

    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm360548864/nm0935057

  381. MRR
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:26 am | Permalink

    My no-Reed theory is that Coldhands will replace the role of the Reeds later on. Bran, Hodor, Osha, Rickon, and the wolves all make it to the wall, and then Osha and Rickon head east after they meet up with Samwell.

  382. morbiczer
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:36 am | Permalink

    Ismael Isak,

    They could easily leave out the giants. I’d rather have they spend their limited CGI budget on wolves and dragons tbh.

  383. LordDavos12
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:40 am | Permalink

    MRR:
    My no-Reed theory is that Coldhands will replace the role of the Reeds later on. Bran, Hodor, Osha, Rickon, and the wolves all make it to the wall, and then Osha and Rickon head east after they meet up with Samwell.

    If that’s the way D and D decide to go with it, I can see it working.

  384. Jenny
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 3:24 am | Permalink

    Lana:
    Jenny,

    May I just say that I love you for posting these links? Of the two, I would cast Alex; though I find Raffaello the more striking, Alex has something more of the all-important Daario-esque swagger about him. Which of the two would be your choice, I wonder?

    Agree on Alex.

  385. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 3:38 am | Permalink

    Weirwood,

    love peter wingfield, ever since the highlander series :)

  386. Haqen J'gar
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:22 am | Permalink

    “Caucasian” isn’t an ethnicity. It’s not even a scientifically accurate race.

  387. Tormund Midgetsbane
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:10 am | Permalink

    I think people are laying into the new mountain unfairly. He was recast because Conan had other work to be busy with. Bearing in mind this dude also played the predator and a wight walker, I would blame the costume department for not bulking him out with cool armour and just flopping chain-mail over him…

  388. Kate
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:20 am | Permalink

    Superdeluxe: unless you have proof that they have been cut, then no, we will continue to talk about the reeds in a casting thread

    I know! And while you continue to talk about it, we’ll continue to say that it’s nonsense and that we prefer D&D to cut the characters!! :P

    Arthur: Meera and Jojen are Bran’s friends and motivation to continue on in search of the three-eyed crow. After all that has been taking away from Bran, can’t he have friends? Or will D&D just shortchange Bran since himself and Meera can’t have a sexual relationship because of their age and therefor not be of use to the HBO breast count quota.

    Why Osha can’t be Bran’s friend? And why doesn’t finfing his place in the world and discovering why he is having weird dreams is not motivation enough?

    I don’t think that Bran and Meera’s relationship will ever become sexual, but if they ever needed a sexual partner for Bran, why don’t use again the already introduced Osha? She is hot enough, isn’t it?

    Honestly: I don’t see the need to introduce the Reeds based in the storyline from books 2 to 5. We don’t know wha’ts to happen in the last two books, but given that D&D know how the series end and they are consulting with GRRM, don’t you think that they’d kept the characters if they were instrumental to the story’s core?

  389. SerJanos
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:22 am | Permalink

    Har!
    The Rabbit,

  390. DGIG
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:44 am | Permalink

    Mike McShane as Thoros of Myr – http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574540/

    Mackenzie Crook as Vargo Hoat – http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0188871/

    Dean Lennox Kelly as Mance Rayder – http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0446319/

    Shaun Dooley as Rickard Karstark – http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0233215/

    There can only be one casting as Wyman Manderley – http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0891943/

    Impossible to see anyone other than Maggie Smith as the Queen of Thorns

  391. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:21 am | Permalink

    The disgusting thing is that BRAN IS 8.

    Eight!!!

    How is a 8 year old gonna warg into Hodor to have sex with Meera???

    Meera has nothing to say to that??? Because if having sex with an 8 year old is pretty disgusting, having sex with Hodor is not much better, but having sex with Branodor….puaj

    Some seriously disturbed shit

  392. Jaime Lannister
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:27 am | Permalink

    Impossible to see anyone other than Maggie Smith as the Queen of Thorns

    Agreed. If they got Maggie, just oh my God… I would name my firstborn either Dave or Dan.

    Male or female.

  393. Udi
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:35 am | Permalink

    Kingthlayer,

    ROFL!

  394. Macha
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:36 am | Permalink

    Super glad for Shireen being cast, and can’t wait to see her!
    I’m actually hoping we’ll continue to see lesser known actors being cast, Nina Gold really has an eye for talent.
    My only suggestion, for the moment, is Lior Ashkenazi as Oberyn Martell. Don’t know how many of you know him, but he’s ace.

    Also,
    DGIG,
    I, too, would love to see Shaun Dooley in GoT, he’s grrreat!

  395. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:39 am | Permalink

    Kate:

    I don’t think that Bran and Meera’s relationship will ever become sexual, but if they ever needed a sexual partner for Bran, why don’t use again the already introduced Osha? She is hot enough, isn’t it?

    Wtf but Osha is like 35 in the books and Bran is not only 8 but turning into a tree.

    Martin would never write something like that. Are we reading the same books people?? Why this obssesive need to introduce love interests, happy endings blablabla?

    The best thing that could happen to Bran is to NOT have a love interest, because it has a 99% chance to end in disaster (specially for the loved one, check if not what happend to the love interests of Danny, Robb, Tyrion, Sansa, Jon, Cersei?, Robert, Rhaegar, and pretty much everyone in the books)

  396. Ash
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    16 for sex is legan in Britain and most other countries. What’s the big deal?

  397. Ash
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:53 am | Permalink

    Kate,

    In the books OSHA is 40-50 years.

  398. Udi
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:58 am | Permalink
  399. Shinyteapot
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    As regards the Kettleblacks, I’m guessing we’ll have a lead one, and two others who have minimal lines but look right.

  400. Udi
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    Macha,

    Being from Israel, I know Lior Ashkenazi. It is known!
    Could work, I guess though might feel strange to see a fellow countryman in GoT

  401. Sam S
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:25 am | Permalink

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/youngvictheatre/6770114101/

    ^ this guy, Daniel Cerqueira, for Vargo Hoat…who I’ve pictured from the moment he was introduced in the books.

    Oh, and Ian McNiece for Wyman Manderly and Denis Lawson for Qyburn

  402. Rimshot
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    Connie: and is basically a glorified extra

    * sigh *

  403. Bellatorus Equus
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    I like the Osha and Luwin going with Bran and Rickon idea. But since Osha was a wildling before being captured and brought to Winterfell, wouldn’t it make much more sense to have her accompany Bran north of the Wall with Coldhands, and have Luwin take Rickon off somewhere?

    I also really, really like the suggestion of Crispin Glover as Ramsay Bolton– he can and has done the creepy vibe… anyone seen “Willard”?

    (I’m not seeing my spoilers blackout working, can someone fix it, please?

  404. Shock Me
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    morbiczer,

    Hmmmm they could expand Rickon’s role and send BOTH boys north of the wall.

  405. Steve
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    Under the sea, Patchface will be cast with bells of gold, I know I know, oh oh oh

  406. Tomer Segal
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Ramsay Snow should have been cast the day before yesterday. And Cillian Murphy, no doubt-
    http://www.wildsound.ca/images/dark_knight_cillian_murphy.jpg

    I dont see why cast Shireen when there are so much important characters currently left aside.

  407. DGIG
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    Ramsay Snow? Might be a bit old for the part, but just oozes menace -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1fFX0w3ZTM

    And he’s already worked with Dolorous Edd and Walder Frey…

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0691186/

  408. PatD
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Andrew Scott would kill it as Ramsay

    Edmure Tully: Stephen Waddington

    That’s effin’inspired casting, for both those characters. Scott was unforgettable in that Sherlock role.

    I would love it if they keep Luwin around. Any way they could manage it.

    I think Maggie Smith would be *perfection* as the Queen of Thrones (I actually pictured her in my head when reading), plus, she recently instructed Julian Fellowes to write her character out of Downton Abbey, because she won’t be returning after season 3. So, one can only hope. I think casting her would be a huge coup for D&D and the show. Anyone else would be a big disappointment for me.

    For me, only Viggo fits Mance Rayder. I know it’s a long shot, but Seven Hells, I’d lose it if they actually got him for the part. If they can’t pull that off, I thought the John Hawkes suggestion was brilliant. Kevin McKidd is too big/solid looking for Mance.

    I couldn’t care less about Conan not being The Mountain, anymore. He was on my screen for, what? like seconds, and thus, there’s just no investment there. Also, it’s pretty clear that the show won’t be following the book’s Jojen/Meera storyline, and I don’t think relentless complaining about it is going to change that.

  409. alex
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    let me just go on a limb here. NOTHING OFFICIAL, I’M JUST SPECULATING.
    There will be no Queen of Thorns. That personality will be merge with Margaery’s, i bet it! just look carefully at how Margaery is made this season, and i think you will all agree that she has a nasty and treacherous undertone. Textbook TV Queen of thorns.

  410. Josh Parker
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    My season three cast is below. It’s a bit revised from the one I posted last year. I try to keep expectations somewhat realistic, so you won’t be seeing any really big names in really small roles just because they have the right look. I also try to steer clear of Americans, because it’s pretty clear the producers mostly are as well.

    Gordon Kennedy as Small Paul
    Bernard Hill as Lord Mace Tyrell
    Lawrence Makoare as Strong Belwas
    Dominic Rowan as Lord Edmure Tully
    Peter Mullan as Ser Brendan “The Blackfish” Tully
    Paul McGann as Mance Rayder
    Brian Blessed as Tormund Giantsbane
    Saffron Burrows as Val
    Sarah Alexander as Dalla
    Ned Dennehy as Styr
    John Shrapnel as Qyburn
    Gary Stretch as Ser Osmund Kettleblack
    Julian Richings as Tom O’Sevens
    Rhys Parry Jones as Lemoncloak
    Domnhall Gleeson as Anguy
    Iwan Rheon as Ramsey Snow
    Guy Henry as Lord Vargo Hoat
    Lee Oakes as Shagwell the Fool
    Laura Jane Laughlin as Lollys Stokeworth
    Charlie Baker as Ser Boros Blount
    Julian Rhind-Tutt as Lord Beric Dondarrion
    Jeffrey Kissoon as Ser Thoros of Myr
    Jamie Foreman as Lame Lothar Frey
    David O’Hara as Lord Captain Victarion Greyjoy
    Oded Fehr as Daario Naharis
    Sean Gilder as Ser Lothor Brune
    Kwasi Songui as Kraznys Mo Nakloz
    Adoni Maropis as Grey Worm

  411. PatD
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    There will be no Queen of Thorns.

    I really, really, REALLY hope this theory is shit.

  412. Josh Parker
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    And just in case some of these people are introduced in Season Three, here is my cast for season 4.

    Federico Castelluccio as Prince Oberyn Martell
    Frances Barber as Lady Selyse Florent
    Kevin R. McNally as Donal Noye
    Anatole Taubman as Aeron “Damphair” Greyjoy
    Andrew Tiernan as Nute the Barber
    Andrew Pleavin as Qarl the Maid
    Richard Griffiths as Lord Wyman Manderly
    Rosario Flores as Ellaria Sand
    Aneurin Barnard as Satin
    Adam Alexi-Malle as Brown Ben Plumm
    James Purefoy as Euron Greyjoy
    Manuel Cauchi as Prince Doran Martell
    Giacomo Gonnella as Captain Areo Hotah
    Kaya Scodelario as Princess Arianne Martell

  413. Josh Parker
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Finally, just for shits and giggles, Season 5 as well.

    Alexander Siddig as Hizdahr zo Loraq
    Philip Glenister as Griff
    Freddie Stroma as Young Griff
    Theo James as Prince Quentyn Martell
    Arnold Vosloo as Skahaz mo Kandaq
    Omid Djalili as Reznak mo Reznak
    Rupert Friend as Brynden “Bloodraven” Rivers
    Jake Curran as Ser Arys Oakheart
    Clara Perez as Obara Sand
    David Morrissey as Haldon Halfmaester
    Mark Sheppard as Ser Rolly Duckfield
    Neil Jackson as Ser Gerris Drinkwater
    John DeSantis as Ser Archibald “Big Man “Yronwood
    Giancarlo Giannini as the Kindly Man
    Bahar Soomekh as Lady Taena Meriwether
    Kiruna Stamell as Penny
    Eamonn Walker as Tycho Nestoris
    Adewale Akkinuoye-Agbage as Moqorro
    Allen Leech as Tristopher Botley
    Darren Boyd as Ser Hyle Hunt
    Ewan Stewart as Lord Randyll Tarly
    Ron Cook as Nimble Dick Crabb

  414. Sam S
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Hahaha, Omid Djalili would be a great edition to GoT. However, I reckon he’d rock as Strong Belwas!

  415. NewJeffCT
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Taylor Wily of Hawaii 5-0 is Strong Belwas. Since he’s a minor character on 5-0, he may be able to work another minor character into his schedule.

  416. House Farwynd
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    I think Crispin Glover should have the part of a Glover. It’s just fitting.
    Robett Glover has a part to play in the second season but I guess he won’t be there but later on he comes important, I suspect.
    Also, I have great plans for Galbart Glover and he might be recast for season 7 and beyond.

    Forget that first part, it’s just silly. But I’m fond of House Glover!

  417. Idaan
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    What’s disgusting to us in this day and age was perfectly natural in earlier times. My grandmother (born 1900) met her husband when she was 14 and he was 27. They were married for some 25 years before he passed away due to an accident. Their marriage was respectful and loving and she loved him until she passed away at 91 years of age.

    I certainly wouldn’t approve of my daughter marrying so young in this day and age, but back in the day and Westeros time, it’s perfectly natural to not be on the “shelf” past a certain age.
    Mimsy: 190

    Earlier times as in during Industrial Revolution and the Victorian era. Not medieval times. A study of parish records across England revealed that the average age of a bride was 19 between XIVth and XVIth centuries. Of course, younger than today, but far from what people imagine these days.

  418. Josh
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    KG:
    Arthur,

    It’s disgusting that Dany was 14 too. I strongly suspect GRRM has a “TOO OLD” t-shirt somewhere in his possession. There’s something seriously wrong with you folks, sexualizing children and getting all upset when people call you on it.

    While I am not a fan of the sexualization of some of the kid characters(Arya/Gendry, Sansa/The Hound ESPECIALLY….ick), you should really stop acting everyone. This and another thread I’ve seen you lashing out at fans…and enough though I more less agreed with your stance both times(people should say what they want, we shouldn’t be talking about which adults 12 year olds should bone), the way you say makes you lose the argument. Just saying…

    Anyhow, I think someone already gave a great idea Coldhands replacing the Reeds and Osha and Rickson separating after Samwell…It gives fans more Osha, saves the casting of two child actors(aka the hardest ones to find) and just works…I don’t see at this point Bran going to Lord Reed to learn that Jon isn’t Ned’s son. He’s becoming a tree after all…He’ll find out some other way, if it’s true. So the Reeds really aren’t needed.

  419. Weirwood
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Jay Sutherland,

    This info was on some of the casting calls for season 2:

    Actors please submit current headshot and resume. Actors should be legal to work in the United Kingdom.

    Please submit photos and resumes by mail only. No phone calls or personal drop-offs.

    Nina Gold Casting Ltd
    “Game of Thrones” Casting
    117 Chevening Road
    London
    NW6 6DU
    United Kingdom

  420. you-know-nothing
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    I personally feel that the majority of the casting will be unknown actors, alot of the ideas flying around here i really don’t agree with.

    Cillian Murphy cannot be Ramsay Snow, Ramsay is chubby and maniacal and sadistic. Cillian Murphy is very slim and plays cool and methodical and ‘slightly insane’ very well. I presume most of you are basing that on his portrayal of ‘The Scarecrow’ in Batman Dark Knight.

    Someone earlier mentioned Ian McShane to play Doran Martell…. What!!!! The Martells are supposed to be darker, even olivey, coloured. They live in a very warm, almost mediterranean climate. They have desert land surrounding their capital city. Ian McShane would never be right to play any of the Martells.

    Some of the casting ideas i did like so far are Mackenzie Crook as Vargo Hoat, he suits the physical description very well. And Maggie Smith as The Queen of Thorns is just inspired, she would fulfil the role with ease. And it would also follow the idea of atleast one big name in each season.

  421. Mormegil
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    LordDavos12: Derailment, derailment everywhere!Also, to whoever posted about the Shireen/family tree thing, I’m pretty sure she was actually on it during season 1. I could totally be wrong, but I could swear I remember seeing her name on there, and then for some reason HBO took it off once season 2 started. Apologies for not quoting whoever mentioned it; reading 300 posts made me lazy.

    You can still access the Season 1 version of the webpage at the HBO Viewers guide.

    http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/season1/#!/guide/houses/baratheon/

    While they have changed the odd thing since it first was published (Asha’s name being changed to Yara for example) I’m pretty sure Shireen or even Selyse were never on the Baratheon Family tree.

  422. Knurk
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Rimshot: Rimshot

    don’t worry mate, most of us here do really appreciate the hard work.

  423. Carne
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    I’ve also suggested Guy Henry as Vargo Hoat a couple of times :D

    Good picks though. Some well known and many unknowns on that list, which I like. People seem to only like to suggest big names.

  424. Wolf of Dorne
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Idaan: Earlier times as in during Industrial Revolution and the Victorian era. Not medieval times. A study of parish records across England revealed that the average age of a bride was 19 between XIVth and XVIth centuries. Of course, younger than today, but far from what people imagine these days.

    It was different for noblewomen: they got married at a younger age than peasants because of arranged marriages for political and dynastic consideration and the rush for having a heir (childbirth mortality was terribly high). There’re extreme cases like Isabella of Valois -queen to Richard II- who married at age 6, but most of them married at age 13-14.

  425. Arthur
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    you-know-nothing,

    I personally feel that the majority of the casting will be unknown actors, alot of the ideas flying around here i really don’t agree with.

    I agree. I think because of the huge size of the cast and the cost of the CGI (fantasy elements), coupled with the amount of crew needed and many other factors, D&D can not afford to pay any well known actors. Sean Bean will probably remain the biggest name this series ever employs actor wise.

    The only way I see a big name actor, like even a James Purefoy, or someone equal to or above his standing is if they are a fan of the show itself and don’t mind taking a pay cut.

    The harsh reality of D&D trying to adapt such a huge epic saga and keep most of the main characters in the TV series means that this show will have to be a launching pad for new actors, rather then a place where better known and more well established actors get roles.

    That being said, you never know, with the critical acclaim GoTs is getting perhaps some big names will be interested and wouldn’t mind a pay cut just so they can add this show to their resume and get a chance to be a part of it.

  426. Carne
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I’m actually happy with all the unknown actors. They’re often very talented and it’s nice to see some new faces.

  427. Erik
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Any chance the 11-year old girl auditions aren’t for Shireen but for Meera? I feel like the show established that Stanis’ wife had given him no children.

  428. Panda
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Ingemar Svensson,

    Ingemar Svensson:
    Hmm, Daario with an ethnic look. I wonder what that will do to his blue hair. Hard to make that look good for non-white people.

    Ya only white norwegians look awesome with blue hair is that right? If there is racial prejudice in that comment I dont even know which way it cuts, but in any case its ridiculous… tokio hotel>cissé ??? really ?

  429. J
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Oh man, Philip Glenister as Griff would be fantastic.

  430. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Panda:
    Ingemar Svensson,

    Ya only white norwegians look awesome with blue hair is that right? If there is racial prejudice in that comment I dont even know which way it cuts, but in any case its ridiculous… tokio hotel>cissé ???really ?

    Well all a blonde has to do is dye the hair blue, while someone with black hair first has to de-color it (with bleach for ex) and then dye it blue. As non-whites are rarely (if ever? not sure tbh) blonde, I see how they would look doubly weird.

    I don’t see how that is racist but well…what they could do is just bleach the hair instead of bleach it and dye it blue, if the actor has natural black hair. That will look strange enough, wich is the point

  431. userj
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    Dario plz, I have a huge crush on naaveen Andrews, and it would totally make sense for Dany to be smitten.

    I’ve always had a problem with Dario’s descriptions in the book – its like grrm made him look completely ridiculous so ppl would instantly and irrationally hate him and think Dany is an idiot by extension, when really he doesnt do anything that’s objectively that terrible. My guess is that like j’aquen, they will tone down the silly elements of his appearance (no tooth, hair only blue highlighted, etc). And we don’t have to hear about those stupid fucking daggers.

    Those who want to recast Jason Momo as Dario, you can’t be serious. Drogo was hugely popular in the series, ppl will be like wtf he’s dead? Not to mention Dany is allowed to fall for more than one person – drogo and Dario look very different from one another.

  432. Chris
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    John Lynch from Black Death deserves a role. Either as Donal Noye (assuming he doesn’t get cut) or maybe Black Walder Frey.

  433. NewJeffCT
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    you-know-nothing:
    Cillian Murphy cannot be Ramsay Snow, Ramsay is chubby and maniacal and sadistic. Cillian Murphy is very slim and plays cool and methodical and ‘slightly insane’ very well. I presume most of you are basing that on his portrayal of ‘The Scarecrow’ in Batman Dark Knight.

    Cillian Murphy got pretty maniacal at the end of 28 Days Later, but I’m sure he’s too big a name for the show.

  434. Macha
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano: what they could do is just bleach the hair instead of bleach it and dye it blue, if the actor has natural black hair. That will look strange enough, wich is the point

    Or wear a wig. ;)

  435. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    userj: daggers.

    Those who want to recast Jason Momo as Dario, you can’t be serious. Drogo was hugely popular in the series, ppl will be like wtf he’s dead? Not to mention Dany is allowed to fall for more than one person – drogo and Dario look very different from one another.

    I’ve always pictured Naveen Andrews as the Red Viper.

    I’ve always liked Darioo myself, one of the few things I enjoyed about the Mereenese Knot…so dying your hair make you stupid? Wtf, I had part of my hair dyed purple when I was in a band, I think being a bamf mercenary commander allows to pretty much do what you wish without looking stupid :P (like the rockstars nowadays)

    Macha: Or wear a wig. ;)

    Wtf please no, a blue wig will look like something straight out of a manga cosplay :P

    PS: unless u meant a white wig!! damn, that will make Daario look like Daenerys lol, forget about the bleaching idea…

  436. andrea
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Giancarlo Gianini and Philip Glennister for whatever you want.

  437. Mimsy
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Idaan: Idaan
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:51 am | Permalink
    What’s disgusting to us in this day and age was perfectly natural in earlier times. My grandmother (born 1900) met her husband when she was 14 and he was 27. They were married for some 25 years before he passed away due to an accident. Their marriage was respectful and loving and she loved him until she passed away at 91 years of age.

    I certainly wouldn’t approve of my daughter marrying so young in this day and age, but back in the day and Westeros time, it’s perfectly natural to not be on the “shelf” past a certain age.
    Mimsy: 190

    Earlier times as in during Industrial Revolution and the Victorian era. Not medieval times. A study of parish records across England revealed that the average age of a bride was 19 between XIVth and XVIth centuries. Of course, younger than today, but far from what people imagine these days.

      

    Average age of 19 for a commoner maybe, because their income was important to the family, but nobles made marriage pacts as soon if not before puberty hit.

    It seems to me that GRRM’s world and the medieval era at least have acceptable guidelines where they don’t condone consummating the marriage until heirs can be produced. So, yes, parents could marry or betroth their kids at age 10 or whatever, but the marriage wasn’t consummated until the kids were considered “adult.”

    Bran and Meera.. it’s not about sex.at.all. Their story to me is about the “fantasy” of Bran being able to live a semi normal life with a woman he loves via a surrogate. I never thought Hodor would be a surrogate, but when Bran warged into Hodor and reached for Meera.. it just gave a possibility of what could be. The problem is that the “person” being warged into is still somewhat present and has to cope with the freak out of being invaded.

    It reminded me of conjoined twins in a way. My mother knew a pair of conjoined twins where one of the pair married (had kids) and they had a marriage as normal as could be given the situation. I was like.. WHAT?! How?? Eww… But you just “deal” with the situation, I guess.

    So what’s my point? Bran can have a conjoined relationship if the parties are acceptable to it and when the ages are appropriate.

  438. Yellow Dog
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Ghost Robot: My ideal casting:Nestor Carbonell for Oberyn, even though he’s American, he just looks exactly like how I pictured the Red Viper in my head.

    Seconded!

  439. Macha
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano,

    Come on, think Caesar Flickerman in The Hunger Games, who wouldn’t want that on GoT? :)
    Just kidding, Daario’s looks will definitely get toned down, and I think that’d be for the best. It worked great for J’aqen, after all. When I said wig, I meant it as being the easiest way of solving the issue (regardless of the colour they choose), as opposed to bleaching/dyeing.

  440. Arthur
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Mimsy,

    Well said…

  441. houndlover
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    RAMSAY!!!!!!!!!

  442. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Mimsy:

    Bran and Meera.. it’s not about sex.at.all.Their story to me is about the “fantasy” of Bran being able to live a semi normal life with a woman he loves via a surrogate.
    So what’s my point?Bran can have a conjoined relationship if the parties are acceptable to it and when the ages are appropriate.

    Yes because a 16 year old Meera is clearly attracted by a 8 year old kid…wtf?? Doesn’t matter who he uses as surrogate, he is still an 8 y old kid

    More than about the “fantasy “of Bran, all of this has to do with the “fantasy” of some readers…leave Bran alone, treeing, and let Meera go find someone more suitable for her. Like Jon for example.

    Macha:
    Pau Soriano,

    Come on, think Caesar Flickerman in The Hunger Games, who wouldn’t want that on GoT? :)
    Just kidding, Daario’s looks will definitely get toned down, and I think that’d be for the best. It worked great for J’aqen, after all. When I said wig, I meant it as beingthe easiest way of solving the issue (regardless of the colour they choose), as opposed to bleaching/dyeing.

    Damn I actually had to google that and it definitelly looks awful! Well a blue wig would definitelly look worse than blue dyed hair, wich looks bad enough already. I guess just a strike of hair like J’aqen would look great indeed :)

  443. J
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Uh, does anyone else think the idea of Hodor as surrogate for Bran’s desires is extremely messed up? Dude cannot consent to any of this and he doesn’t seem to be particularly into being warged by Bran all the time. If you’re thinking of this as a super disturbing way of showing Bran going to the dark side or something, okay, but if you think Bran essentially raping Hodor so he can have sex with Meera is romantic, there’s some issues there.

  444. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    J: Uh, does anyone else think the idea of Hodor as surrogate for Bran’s desires is extremely messed up? Dude cannot consent to any of this and he doesn’t seem to be particularly into being warged by Bran all the time. If you’re thinking of this as a super disturbing way of showing Bran going to the dark side or something, okay, but if you think Bran essentially raping Hodor so he can have sex with Meera is romantic, there’s some issues there.

    Can you imagine the outcry if the genders were reversed?

  445. Mimsy
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano: Pau Soriano
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Permalink
    Mimsy:

    Bran and Meera.. it’s not about sex.at.all.Their story to me is about the “fantasy” of Bran being able to live a semi normal life with a woman he loves via a surrogate.
    So what’s my point?Bran can have a conjoined relationship if the parties are acceptable to it and when the ages are appropriate.

    Yes because a 16 year old Meera is clearly attracted by a 8 year old kid…wtf?? Doesn’t matter who he uses as surrogate, he is still an 8 y old kid

    More than about the “fantasy “of Bran, all of this has to do with the “fantasy” of some readers…

    I didn’t say 16 year old Meera was attracted to 8 year old Bran so please don’t “wtf” me. I didn’t write the book, but I know how to comprehend what I’m reading. Reading isn’t all about literal interpretation. An active reader requires an imagination and analytical skills.

    It’s not unnatural for Bran, a person with a disability, to reflect on their life and question what is to become of them. Bran wanted to be a knight and have an adventurous life. My opinion is that perhaps he wanted a family like his own one day, who knows. He certainly had a lot of bed restriction time to think about his future. Do little boys think they’ll marry one day and have kids? Hell, yes! It’s not just little girls that play “mommy” or house.

    Meera was the first girl that made Bran think… hey, I like this girl. She’s kind, fearless, thoughtful, resourceful and she doesn’t treat me like a cripple. Why would I as a reader think that Bran wouldn’t be fascinated by a girl like this? If you’re familiar with children, you’ll know that they attach themselves to certain people and it’s because of the way that person makes them feel. Children want acceptance and love. Period.

    Your own “fantasy” has taken this duo to an inappropriate level, not me.

  446. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    J:
    Uh, does anyone else think the idea of Hodor as surrogate for Bran’s desires is extremely messed up? Dude cannot consent to any of this and he doesn’t seem to be particularly into being warged by Bran all the time. If you’re thinking of this as a super disturbing way of showing Bran going to the dark side or something, okay, but if you think Bran essentially raping Hodor so he can have sex with Meera is romantic, there’s some issues there.a

    I’ve been saying this for weeks

  447. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    god i can’t stand shippers
    Bran is 8.
    He’s not in love.
    and Hodor is a human being…even in this fantasy world there is a huge moral issue with Bran even warging into another human let alone doing the deed with another with that person. I believe that would be morally reprehensible in Westeros for more reasons than just age…not at all endearing or romantic.
    and SanSan is gross.
    and so is Arya/Gendry
    and Catness is hot.

    how did that last one slip in there?

  448. Mimsy
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    J: J
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Permalink
    Uh, does anyone else think the idea of Hodor as surrogate for Bran’s desires is extremely messed up? Dude cannot consent to any of this and he doesn’t seem to be particularly into being warged by Bran all the time.

    Hodor’s disability is exactly why he would NOT be a surrogate candidate… EVER.. in my opinion.

    To me, it’s not even about Bran and Meera ending up together, but what the feelings or questions Bran is dealing with. The way the books are going, I highly doubt that Bran will even get a surrogate chance with a body his own age. Maybe, he’ll warg into Summer, be a protector and live an adventurous life while keeping tabs on people thru trees. Who knows?!

    I just want to say that Bran is not a cut and dry story. He’s potentially leaving his humanity behind and has a short time to cope with it and I hope the tv viewer gets a glimpse of this sacrifice, because it’s truly profound. He’s living a dying man’s journey and everything he could ever be as a human will play out before us. Some of you may only see an 8 year old trekking thru snow and avoiding being caught, while others are truly making the journey with Bran and enjoying his story to the fullest.

  449. Erik
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Maybe they will merge Edric Storm and Shireen into one for the plot ?
    Spoiler : In the books Melisandre wants a royal sacrifice to her god. Why not using Shiren instead of Edric ? It’s more emotional for Stannis to kill her own daughter don’t you think ? Davos Seaworth could save her as he saved Edric in the 3rd book. And everybody go to the Wall at the end, no problem.

  450. Yellow Dog
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    PatD: For me, only Viggo fits Mance Rayder. I know it’s a long shot, but Seven Hells, I’d lose it if they actually got him for the part.

    Oh, baby, I’m losing it at just the suggestion. I see him with Aragorn’s hair.

  451. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Mimsy: Maybe, he’ll warg into Summer, be a protector and live an adventurous life while keeping tabs on people thru trees. Who knows?!

    Yes because that’s the kind of book Martin is writing…full of happy endings

    Mimsy: Some of you may only see an 8 year old trekking thru snow and avoiding being caught, while others are truly making the journey with Bran and enjoying his story to the fullest

    And of course we are the first and you are the second…can I add you on facebook and u can give me some pointers?

    Mimsy: Your own “fantasy” has taken this duo to an inappropriate level, not me.

    Of course it did, is all I think about :P

    Mimsy: I didn’t write the book, but I know how to comprehend what I’m reading. Reading isn’t all about literal interpretation. An active reader requires an imagination and analytical skills.

    Well if you expect his story to end well maybe you should revise those skills ;)

  452. NewJeffCT
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    If I’m not mistaken, Bran should now be 10 or 11 at the end of A Dance with Dragons, no? I think almost a full three years has passed from the start of A Game of Thrones (where Bran was 8) until the end of ADwD.

  453. Remaal
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Phillip Glenister would make a perfect Jon Connington. It is known!

  454. Mimsy
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano: Mimsy: Some of you may only see an 8 year old trekking thru snow and avoiding being caught, while others are truly making the journey with Bran and enjoying his story to the fullest

    And of course we are the first and you are the second…can I add you on facebook and u can give me some pointers?

    No. YOU are the first and I am the second. I’m not making global generalizations about book readers. You and I are having this conversation. Other book readers here give their interpretations of what they are reading and comprehending. I don’t disrespect their opinion even if I may not agree with it. Many times, I can see where they are coming from and I can learn from them. You were not giving me your understanding of the material and I was only explaining my interpretation.

    Pau Soriano: Mimsy: I didn’t write the book, but I know how to comprehend what I’m reading. Reading isn’t all about literal interpretation. An active reader requires an imagination and analytical skills.

    Well if you expect his story to end well maybe you should revise those skills ;)

    Again, you misunderstand. I do not expect happy endings. I don’t see rainbows and sunshine at every turn.

    I would rather have a civil conversation with you, but your replies are full of venom and misunderstanding so I will end the conversation.

  455. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Jay Sutherland,

    I know most of the people here are too busy having a ridiculously stupid discussion about Bran, Hodor, and the Reed’s, but that was much better than I was anticipating, and hopefully more people will take a look. If you’re serious about auditioning, get on the ball, ’cause I thought it was really well done and it seems as though the casting is already underway. Nice work.

  456. Romanista
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Jason Weaver,

    I know it’s hard but I really hope they cast him. not as Tormund but as Damphair

  457. Skip
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Everyone hoping for a Ramsey Bolton casting announcement can sit on your hands, because he’s already been cast.

    As for casting ideas, do we know if anyone has been given the role of Strong Belwas? I think Abdullah the Butcher, an old American professional wrestler, is tailor made for the role. The only thing that would need altering is instead of slicing his stomach once for each fallen foe, he’d slice his forehead because it already looks like a roadmap from 50+ years of the squared circle.

    If you have no clue who I’m speaking of, take a look at these; https://www.google.com/search?q=abdullah+the+butcher&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=YN-iT6uFEpCRgQeB0MXcCA&biw=1280&bih=604&sei=Y9-iT7u4IaXX0QHBw6DVDA

  458. Deaghaidh
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Nathan Fillion should be Mance Rayder
    He can pull of the charismatic and charming leader. He’s super cool. And IIRC, isn’t Mance supposed to sing sometimes? Fillion was great in Dr Horrible’s Sing-along Blog.

  459. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Skip,

    Proof?

  460. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Mimsy: No.YOU are the first and I am the second.I’m not making global generalizations about book readers.You and I are having this conversation.Other book readers here give their interpretations of what they are reading and comprehending.I don’t disrespect their opinion even if I may not agree with it.Many times, I can see where they are coming from and I can learn from them.You were not giving me your understanding of the material and I was only explaining my interpretation.

    Again, you misunderstand.I do not expect happy endings.I don’t see rainbows and sunshine at every turn.

    I would rather have a civil conversation with you, but your replies are full of venom and misunderstanding so I will end the conversation.

    I only said “we”, becasue you said “some of you”…and yes,a very civil conversation in wich you imply you’re the one reading it right, because “you know how to comprehend what you’re reading” hence I’m not.

    Or that ” An active reader requires an imagination and analytical skills” of wich I clearly lack, hence “Some of you(meaning me) may only see an 8 year old trekking thru snow and avoiding being caught, while others (meaning you) are truly making the journey with Bran and enjoying his story to the fullest”

    And you interpret all that because I said Meera could never be attracted by Bran. Because that is all I said. You can understand why I can’t take you very seriously right?

    Again, you can expect Bran to warg into Summer, be a protector and live an adventurous life while keeping tabs on people thru trees, but that is not a very realistic expectation. That is not the kind of book Martin is writing, wether you see rainbows and sunshine at every turn or not.

    I don’t think having unrealistic expectations/hopes of what Bran story will be is enjoying it to the fullest, au contraire…but maybe is just me ;)

  461. LordStarkington
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Skip:
    Everyone hoping for a Ramsey Bolton casting announcement can sit on your hands, because he’s already been cast.

    ?

  462. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I don’t know if that’s what he’s referring to, but there’s speculation that we’ve alread met Ramsay last episode (Dagmer), though the ages don’t really match.

  463. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi:
    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I don’t know if that’s what he’s referring to, but there’s speculation that we’ve alread met Ramsay last episode (Dagmer), though the ages don’t really match.

    Why would Roose Bolton’s bastard be on the Iron Islands? And why would he be older than his father? That may be the silliest speculation yet.

  464. Weirwood
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    I would like to see an actor like Ian Anthony Dale for Daario Naharis.

    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1315214336/nm1406333

    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm439072768/nm1406333

  465. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    lol that’s what I thought. Some people think they’re turning him into a bastard brother instead of son.

    Anyway, it’s pretty clear to me that Robb will receive news from Winterfell next episode and send Roose to take it back. We’ll only see Ramsay next year.

  466. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: Why would Roose Bolton’s bastard be on the Iron Islands? And why would he be older than his father? That may be the silliest speculation yet.

    Obviously Ramsay is warging into Dagmar so he can experience what it’s like to hump him some saltwives! The real Ramsay is safe and sound in Valeria sipping shade of the evening with Euron

  467. Coltaine777
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    Jay Sutherland,

    Jay Sutherland,

    I liked it…but you’ve been here before …get your agent on it dude !!! …

  468. Coltaine777
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Skip,

    Skip, where is the proof ? or are you just jonesing for some attention ? ….

  469. Mormegil
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Deaghaidh: Nathan Fillion should be Mance RayderHe can pull of the charismatic and charming leader. He’s super cool. And IIRC, isn’t Mance supposed to sing sometimes? Fillion was great in Dr Horrible’s Sing-along Blog.

    Someone should get him to sing and record a version of The Dornishmans Wife so we can compare him to Joe.

  470. houndlover
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    August Diehl for Ramsay Bolton.

  471. Matthew Sherrick
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano,

    I think Naveen would be the perfect Red Viper!

  472. andrea
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Jay Sutherland,

    I didn´t read all the comments so didn´t saw yours, sorry (thanks Pastor of Muppets). I too think it was very good. One thing though: Daario is supposed to be more extravagant (but don´t put your trust on my memory). Your brow (forehead) is slightly shirring (?, ugh sorry), that makes you look worried. I would not represent this character as the clown he is in the books but maybe you should emphasize his extravagance in a more subtle way (besides the accent). I think you´re too subtle in this video (I know it was a quick thing, you said). Danny seems to love the exotic. Maybe he´s funny for her? or Daario reminds her of Drogo in some way?
    But as you know they don´t want caucasians, so I hope you have better luck with another character.

    “emphasize his extravagance in a more subtle??? sorry, that sentence is all wrong.

  473. andrea
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    Weirwood,

    wow, nice idea.

  474. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Lise Bollum:
    Kristofer Hivju definitely looks like a Tormund to me!

    On a side note: doeth anyone have any thuggethions for Vargo Hoat?

    Johnny Depp for Vargo Hoat, only a dream.

  475. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    So the latest casting rumor is that the production is looking for a male aged 20-30 that is “wierd or extreme looking.” Any ideas of who this is for? Ramsay? Patchface?

  476. Weirwood
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    andrea,

    He is pretty zesty (and fills the “exotic looks” part- he is of Japanese, French and English descent)…
    but he is doing Hawaii Five-0 right now….. :(

  477. Spryte
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    J,

    Thank you. I was beginning to think I was the only one creeped out by this.

  478. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Jay Sutherland,

    Jay, you’re great!

    And while Andrea makes good points, I’m not sure the producers will try to be THAT faithful to the character from the books, since he comes off a bit silly. Maybe TV Dany would dig a more tormented soul.

    Other characters you could try (though they’re minor and may not be included): Anguy Archer, Harwin and Satin.

  479. Conor
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    Joe Manganiello would be my Daario.

    Ewan mcGreggor for Mance.

  480. FlayedManofBK
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi,

    Can’t reveal how i know, but Roose has a conversation with Robb where he states he will send his bastard son from the dreadfort who will take back Winterfell from Theon’s skeleton crew. Wait til sunday… not sure if Ramsay’s been cast or not..haven’t gotten that far yet..

  481. Knurk
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano: I only said “we”, becasue you said “some of you”…and yes,a very civil conversation in wich you imply you’re the one reading it right, because “you know how to comprehend what you’rereading” hence I’m not.

    Or that ” An active reader requires an imagination and analytical skills” of wich I clearly lack, hence “Some of you(meaning me) may only see an 8 year old trekking thru snow and avoiding being caught, while others (meaning you) are truly making the journey with Bran and enjoying his story to the fullest”

    And you interpret all that because I said Meera could never be attracted by Bran. Because that is all I said. You can understand why I can’t take you very seriously right?

    Again, you can expect Bran to warg into Summer, be a protector and live an adventurous life while keeping tabs on people thru trees, but that is not a very realistic expectation. That is not the kind of book Martin is writing, wether you see rainbows and sunshine at every turn or not.

    I don’t think having unrealistic expectations/hopes of what Bran story will be is enjoying it to the fullest, au contraire…but maybe is just me ;)

    I shouldn’t be entering this discussion since Mimsy already wisely left it, but you are putting words in her mouth she never said. You killed that discussion with your condescending tone which is a shame.

  482. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    MoonCoffee:

    On Daario: Someone in tumblr suggested Kiwan Landreth-Smith and I can’t help but agree. I mean look at that smug face.

    This one agrees that Kiwan Landreth-Smith looks very much like the Daario described in the book. Those eyes could be purple with contact lenses.

  483. Andrew
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    Do you think they’re going to cast Val and Dalla, or just one? I personally think it’s kind of important to the story that Dalla dies, and it’s also important that Val lives, so I hope they cast them both. I haven’t the slightest idea who could play them; maybe Tamzin Merchant as Val, since we never got to see her as Dany, but yeah, I just hope they get cast.

    Any ideas on who could play those two, and Mance?

  484. andrea
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Weirwood: He is pretty

    yes he is… “zesty” don´t know what it means but sounds appropriate ;)

  485. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Andrew,

    I really hope they cast Val, I like her a lot. Most suggestions I’ve seen online are for Tabrett Bethell to play her. Haven’t really seen her acting, so I can’t really judge, but she does look the part:

    http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/11500000/Cara-tabrett-bethell-11515186-1920-2560.jpg

  486. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    FlayedManofBK,

    Oh, OK. Cool. Guess we’ll be certain this Sunday.

  487. Carne
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi,

    Send an e-mail to her agent so they know about the role. You never know what might happen :)

    Actually, I’d suggest this to everyone who wants to see a certain character in GoT; e-mail their agent so they’re aware of the role and the casting currently taking place.

  488. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi:
    Andrew,

    I really hope they cast Val, I like her a lot. Most suggestions I’ve seen online are for Tabrett Bethell to play her. Haven’t really seen her acting, so I can’t really judge, but she does look the part:

    http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/11500000/Cara-tabrett-bethell-11515186-1920-2560.jpg

    They would have to dirty her up a lot. Too modern looking, IMO. Whie Val could very well be sexy, we have to remember that she is a wildling.

  489. andrea
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi: the producers will try to be THAT faithful to the character from the books

    I hope they don´t!

    Edit: tormented soul… interesting… Jay; don´t listen to me, please!

  490. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    FlayedManofBK,

    If this is true it is fucking awesome . I really, really hope you are true .

  491. Hi-Fi
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Oh, I’m sure her fans are already doing that. There seems to be a whole thread dedicated to it at Westeros. Like I said, I actually don’t really know this actress work, just think she looks the part. : )

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Definitely. I’m sure they’d dirty her her up pretty competently.

    But yeah, regardless of who takes the part, I just want Val to be cast. I dig her.

  492. LordDavos12
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    FlayedManofBK,

    If you’re telling the truth, you can have one of my knuckles cut off for doubting you. If you are lying, I shall have Stannis chop off all of yours!

  493. paylor
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Sam S,

    There’s only one person I can picture as Wyman Manderly, and that is GRRM.

  494. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Skip: Everyone hoping for a Ramsey Bolton casting announcement can sit on your hands, because he’s already been cast. As for casting ideas, do we know if anyone has been given the role of Strong Belwas? I think Abdullah the Butcher, an old American professional wrestler, is tailor made for the role. The only thing that would need altering is instead of slicing his stomach once for each fallen foe, he’d slice his forehead because it already looks like a roadmap from 50+ years of the squared circle. If you have no clue who I’m speaking of, take a look at these; https://www.google.com/search?q=abdullah+the+butcher&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=YN-iT6uFEpCRgQeB0MXcCA&biw=1280&bih=604&sei=Y9-iT7u4IaXX0QHBw6DVDA

    Good stuff but he’s too short, I’d think more along the lines of Kamala the Ugandan Giant, if we’re talking old school wrestlers.

    But what I actually picture the most is a huge sumo wrestler type, preferably a Polynesian one.

  495. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Knurk: I shouldn’t be entering this discussion since Mimsy already wisely left it, but you are putting words in her mouth she never said. You killed that discussion with your condescending tone which is a shame.

    I’m quoting her exact words so please can you point wich are the words she never said?

  496. bon
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    Josh,

    If I remember it right Jadwiga (female name) king [!] of Poland was married when she was 4 and here hunband Wilhelm Habsburg was 6. It was called Hainsburg marriage. Queen Elisabeth of Bosnia allowed Wilhelm to consummate the marriage when her daughter was 12, but that didn’t happened because the counsellors barred the gates before him and expelled from country, but two years later she was married with Grand Duke Jogaila of Lithuania 24 or 34 (we don’t know date of birth). Jogailo married many times. His last marriage was with Sophia of Halshany. She had 17 and he was 51 or 61. I also looked over marriages of counts of Silesia in 16-18/19 centuries. In 16 girls were married when they had 14, in first half of 17 century when they had 15, in 17/18 century they had 16/17 years, in 18/19 century girls had not less than 19.

  497. ThePinkDragon
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    I’ve seen a couple of Skins kids being suggested here and y’all have to be careful with them, since there’s gonna be a reunion season filmed this summer/fall. I’m sure some of them can schedule around it, but some actors/actresses suggested would be doing three or four projects at once if they tacked on GoT along with that.

    (…As much as I’d love Nick Hoult as Ramsey. He does socio-/psychopath so well, that kid.)

  498. NewJeffCT
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    paylor:
    Sam S,

    There’s only one person I can picture as Wyman Manderly, and that is GRRM.

    I keep picturing Richard Griffiths has Lord Manderly – he was Vernon Dursley from the Harry Potter movies:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z06REQJHCrE/TcNDsDQp85I/AAAAAAAAADQ/iCY_lXzvGbo/s1600/ver.jpg

  499. panda
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Jay Sutherland,

    A man should get a house that is not so close to the airport.

    A khaleesi has dragons not planes and dogs it is known…

    good luck jay ;)

  500. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    A man of the right age, stature, and ability for Strong Belwas is Sammo Hung Kam Bo. Strong Belwas must move swiftly away from a horse while wielding a weapon, something the acrobatic kung fu master Sammo Hung would have no problem with. This one hopes they look seriously at Sammo.

    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm392149760/nm0005033

  501. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar:
    A man of the right age, stature, and ability for Strong Belwas is Sammo Hung Kam Bo. Strong Belwas must move swiftly away from a horse while wielding a weapon, something the acrobatic kung fu master Sammo Hung would have no problem with. This one hopes they look seriously at Sammo.

    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm392149760/nm0005033

    He seems a bit too old for the part, I like more that Butcher guy suggestion…pretty scary

  502. robb17
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    Kaya Scodelario for Meera Reed
    har har

  503. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano: He seems a bit too old for the part, I like more that Butcher guy suggestion…pretty scary

    If he is to be just a bit younger than the White Beard, it could work. Speed is important as well as size, which is a rare combination. Also, Sammo has been in hundreds of films and can act quite well, jovial and frightening at the same time in many cases.

  504. aurorsand147
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    i remember someone on tumblr had asked Geroge RR Martin about the reeds on his signing and he said they hadn’t been cast yet.
    Kaya Scodelario for Meera Reed is a win

  505. LordDavos12
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Regarding Strong Belwas….

    You guys ever seen Forgetting Sarah Marshall? That huge Hawaiian dude is close to how I pictured Belwas when reading…his name escapes me at the moment, and I don’t know if he would have the chops to handle it…ok scratch the name escaping me, it’s Taylor Wily. Apparently he also has a background in Sumo and boxing which wouldn’t hurt…imagine him shitting on Oznak zo Pahl! Hehe

  506. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    LordDavos12:
    Regarding Strong Belwas….

    You guys ever seen Forgetting Sarah Marshall?That huge Hawaiian dude is close to how I pictured Belwas when reading…his name escapes me at the moment, and I don’t know if he would have the chops to handle it…ok scratch the name escaping me, it’s Taylor Wily.Apparently he also has a background in Sumo and boxing which wouldn’t hurt…imagine him shitting on Oznak zo Pahl! Hehe

    Could work. http://www.tvguide.com/News/Hawaii-Five0-Wily-1038795.aspx

  507. Shinyteapot
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Jay Sutherland,

    Your interpretation of Daario is very different to how I imagine him- not knowing what D&D are after, I can’t say if that’s a good thing or not. Your version is quiet, calm and persuasive.

    To me, Daario is too self assured for that. He doesn’t ask Dany to love him- he informs her that, for now, she’s the luckiest woman on the planet and to make the most of it ’cause there’s a queue!

    Think of Salladhor Saan saying he wants to fuck the queen. Make him younger, hotter, slightly less amiable, much cockier, a show off and a little bit sleazy- but he’s so confident and completely comfortable in himself he gets away with it. That’s Daario. He’s a blatant bad boy. Dany, even as a teenager, knows he’s not a man to settle down with- he’s the one to have fun with and, very reluctantly walk away from because she’s clearly convinced he really is all that. She won’t give up her kingdom for him and he’d instantly lose interest if she did.

  508. LordDavos12
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Yep, that’s him. Like I said though, who knows if he’s got the acting chops.

  509. Knurk
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano: I’m quoting her exact words so please can you point wich are the words she never said?

    what I meant was that you’re taking meaning from her words that shouldn’t be taken from them. The way you phrase it it’s like she’s attacking you while reading it objectively she is merely stating some valid points in the discussion no matter which side you are on, yet somehow you took them a little too personal and felt the need to respond to Mimsy with condescension.

  510. Rygar
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    John Cusack for Mance.

  511. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    LordDavos12:
    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Yep, that’s him.Like I said though, who knows if he’s got the acting chops.

    He is very blustery and funny on Hawaii 5 0, and HUGE, it might work. Sumo experience would help with fight scenes.

  512. darrylzero
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    The Sammo Hung suggestion is awesome, but I do think he’s too old now. Was there a fat guy in Kung Fu Hustle? There must have been, right? If Wily is unavailable or can’t put on some appropriate-ish accent.

  513. Jill
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: Mance Rayder seems to be the biggest and most important addition to the season 3 cast. I really don’t think it will be difficult to cast. I’ll nominate John Hawkes for the role. He has worked with HBO in the past.

    I like this idea. I read this site often, but usually only comment to nominate James Frain for Mance. Hawkes also fits my vision for this role though. Mance is supposed to be unassuming in appearance, but it’s his attitude/confidence/charisma that make him a leader. To me, this requires a more slight, every-man type actor with the ability to communicate their badassery without looking like the typical badass. This is why I don’t like actors like Purefoy for Mance. I know that will be a super unpopular opinion on this site, and I love him as an actor, just think he’e be a much better Victarion or Euron. Long story short (tool late), John Hawkes is an amazing actor who fits my mind’s eye of Mance, and is now tied for first place in my mind with James Frain as the favorite for this role. Nice pick.

  514. Jill
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi: Andrew, I really hope they cast Val, I like her a lot. Most suggestions I’ve seen online are for Tabrett Bethell to play her. Haven’t really seen her acting, so I can’t really judge, but she does look the part: http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/11500000/Cara-tabrett-bethell-11515186-1920-2560.jpg

    I really like the idea of Rosamund Pike as Val

  515. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    darrylzero:
    The Sammo Hung suggestion is awesome, but I do think he’s too old now.Was there a fat guy in Kung Fu Hustle?There must have been, right?If Wily is unavailable or can’t put on some appropriate-ish accent.

    It would depend on what age D & D want him to be, since not all castings appear to be according to the descriptions in the books so far. If he is to be a retired pit-fighter, it could be Sammo. If a currently fighting pit-fighter, Wily or a younger large Kung Fu guy would suffice. If Strong Belwas is to move faster than a horse, he must be pretty fast if that scene lives.

  516. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Jill: I like this idea.I read this site often, but usually only comment to nominate James Frain for Mance.Hawkes also fits my vision for this role though.Mance is supposed to be unassuming in appearance, but it’s his attitude/confidence/charisma that make him a leader.To me, this requires a more slight, every-man type actor with the ability to communicate their badassery without looking like the typical badass.This is why I don’t like actors like Purefoy for Mance.I know that will be a super unpopular opinion on this site, and I love him as an actor, just think he’e be a much better Victarion or Euron.Long story short (tool late),John Hawkes is an amazing actor who fits my mind’s eye of Mance, and is now tied for first place in my mind with James Frain as the favorite for this role.Nice pick.

    Yes, either would be able to blend-in, yet stand out when necessary. This one approves of these picks. Do either sing?

  517. Weirwood
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Off topic but The Last legion is on IFC and I am surprised by how many actors from GoT are in it!

    Owen Teale (Aliser Thorne), James Cosmo (Jeor Mormont), Robert Pugh (Craster), Nonso Anozie (Xaro Xhoan Daxos) and Iain Glen (Jorah Mormont).

    And how many people who have been listed in certain poster’s dream cast: Kevin McKidd, Alexander Siddig, Colin Firth etc…..

  518. Jill
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: Yes, either would be able to blend-in, yet stand out when necessary. This one approves of these picks. Do either sing?

    John Hawkes is the lead singer of a weird kind-of countryish band called Kind Straggler. Mostly he just sort of talk-sings from what I’ve heard of their stuff, but that’s a start. I’m sure James Frain can do whatever he damn well pleases.

  519. Langkard
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    LordDavos12:
    Hmm…Meera and Brodor sex?I can hear it already:

    ….hodor…………hodor………..hodor………hodor…….Hodor..Hodor…Hodor..Hodor….HODORHODORHODORHODORHODORHODORHODOR…………………hodor. *lights cigarette*

    Reminds me of a scene from Young Frankenstein.

  520. Andrew
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    robb17,

    She’s beautiful, and I like her as a person, but i’ve never actually seen her in anything haha. She was in Skins, right? I wonder if there’s any way to see that in Canada…

    Based on looks alone, though, I deffinitely wouldn’t oppose her in the part.

    Do we know for sure that Ramsay is cast? I’ve always suspected they just didn’t announce it because he doesn’t start off as Ramsay, and that’d kill the mystery, but I didn’t know there was a confirmation anywhere.

  521. Langkard
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    I suspect, as I mentioned back in the recap thread from last week, that Margaery is going to absorb the character of the Queen of Thorns.

    Assuming they do keep the character of Olenna Tyrell, remember how she is described in the books – a tiny, old lady. Her small stature is what makes her large personality stand out so well. The actress who plays her has to at least be shorter than the 5′ 6″ Natalie Dormer. So that precludes Sian Phillips, who is just over 5’7″ and Maggie Smith at 5’5″ is only slightly shorter than Ms. Dormer. That’s why I keep pushing for Fionnula Flanagan, who is only 5’2″ tall. If there is an even shorter actress out there, a few more inches shorter, who has the acting ability to pull off such a strong character, then I’d be all for her.

  522. andrea
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Langkard: Fionnula Flanagan

    I love that woman.
    She looks like a Targ in that photo

  523. ThePinkDragon
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Andrew,

    American here. I had to import the DVDs straight from the UK itself, and most of my friends had to, uh, illegally obtain the episodes. (I did the same when it came to seasons 5 and 6, and probably will when it comes to season 7. Sorry, but there was no other way unless I wanted to wait a few years.) No channel here will air it, on account of its content. But since you’re in O Canada, I’d recommend you check around and see if it’s airing on some channel up there. Y’all have Degrassi and Skins isn’t so much worse in terms of maturity — there’s just more sex scenes, really.

    As for Kaya as Meera, I don’t know. I actually suggested her as Margaery, long ago; IMO, she has a very calculating, cold expression. I don’t know if she can come off like a backwater, tomboyish ladyling. On the other hand, Effy, her Skins character, was mysterious and distant, not to mention highly, psychotically depressed — she can pull that off very well if they decide to merge Meera with Jojen.

    I’m still hoping for a Meejen, by the way…I think it would give some variety to Bran’s scenes. To be honest, I feel like he needs someone closer to both his age, intelligence, and maturity level to talk to — and a Meejen would solve that. Forget love interest and all that, kid needs some friends.

  524. ThePinkDragon
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    Oh, that post is filled with errors. Sigh. I wish the edit button showed up on my proxy server.

  525. andrea
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    ThePinkDragon: American here. I had to import the DVDs straight from the UK

    what?

  526. Langkard
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    andrea,

    I think they’re talking about Skins.

  527. ThePinkDragon
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, Skins. Not GoT, hah.

    Is my age showing or what? In my defense, I started watching Skins when I was practically a kid (this is 5 years ago, after all) and so it’s kind-of a melodramatic nostalgia trip for me now.

  528. ace
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Andrew,

    Skins is shown in Canada via Superchannel network

    http://www.superchannel.ca/series/view/13615733/Skins

  529. Skip
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    Andrew and everyone else,

    It started as speculation on my part in the Episode 15 recap comments, and it essentially still is, but after Jason posted this interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKlKK2FlFo I’m positive this is the scenario that will play out. As Jason also pointed out that due to show previews already released by HBO that Bran and Rickon “die” in ep7 and Asha comes to visit Winterfell in ep8. Based on that pace, and with ep9 rumored to be almost entirely devoted to the BotB, that would set up the sacking of Winterfell for the finale, in which “Dagmer’s” ruse would be revealed.

  530. Langkard
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    Oh, and while still on my Queen of Thorns is Fionnula Flanagan ranting…

    Check out these side by side comparison of photos of the fiery redheaded Fionnula from the 70′s and now as an elderly but still imposing (though short) woman. Tell me that she isn’t the perfect grandmother for Margaery Tyrell!

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n-FZI-oxGoA/Srx97lS-TUI/AAAAAAAAA_Q/mGsWWjQ0bZc/s400/fionnulaflanagan.jpg

    And check out the eyes! They are nearly the same shade of blue-grey as Natalie Dormer’s eyes.

  531. andrea
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    ThePinkDragon,

    Don´t worry, for me you could have 80 because I know nothing about that show ;) (i know you have 18 though)

  532. Lord Jon
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    FlayedManofBK:
    Hi-Fi,

    Can’t reveal how i know, but Roose has a conversation with Robb where he states he will send his bastard son from the dreadfort who will take back Winterfell from Theon’s skeleton crew. Wait til sunday… not sure if Ramsay’s been cast or not..haven’t gotten that far yet..

    No offense but I don’t believe you…

  533. Andrew
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 11:35 pm | Permalink

    ace,

    Ahh, Thanks! i’ll have the check it out then, if for nothing else than to see Kaya act.

  534. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    Weirwood,

    Check out Centurion as well, Liam Cunningham (Davos) is a bad ass in it and it’s directed by Neil Marshall, the director of Episode 9, “Blackwater”. Not to mention a great cast with Michael Fassbender, Dominic West, Olga Kurlyenko….

    Oh and Kingdom of Heaven has Craster, Jaime, Will, Ser Jorah, as well as the original swords that were melted down to create the Iron Throne. It also has much talked about casting considerations like David Thewliss, Kevin McKidd, Marton Csokas and Alexander Siddig.

  535. oh-bb
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    MY COUNTRY FOR STRONG BELWAS.

    He is my Blackfish, my Reeds, my insert-your-favorite-character-here. I WILL BURN SHIT DOWN IF HE IS NOT IN THE SHOW.

    Please give me a fat man cracking jokes and shitting on the battlefield and SURPRISE! actually being a pretty bad dude. Strong Belwas is better comic relief than Dolorous Edd, even. IT IS KNOWN.

  536. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    While I have been a big pusher for Siann Phillips since day 1 I agree 100% on Flannagan. She is photogenic, could easily be kin to Dormer as you say, she can be both sweet and menacing. Also she is not too old for the production and could easily play a character who is actually older than she is.

    In that light and really just because it’s a fantastic underrated series: Watch Brotherhood, a rarely seen Showtime gem that gave us three solid seasons of compelling drama as Irish mob meets Providence, Rhode Island politics. Jason Isaacs, Annabeth Gish, Jason Clarke and Fionnula Flannagan star in it.

    No surprise: Flannagan does a great job playing the matriarch of an Irish-American family with political and criminal ties.

  537. andrea
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    Langkard,

    oh, I just remember: FF appeared in a funny Irish (I think) movie called “Waking NED”

  538. Weirwood
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I have been meaning to catch both of those, now I definitely will make it a priority. Thanks!

  539. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    Weirwood,

    Kingdom of Heaven is one of my favourite Ridley Scott films….warning! DO NOT WATCH THE THEATRICAL CUT. The extended director’s cut is a million times better, rich and nuanced, a great portrayal of the build up leading to the 2nd Crusade.

  540. Weirwood
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 12:43 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Will do, Thanks again! :)

  541. NOC
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 1:21 am | Permalink

    If Ron Pearlman gets a part, I will shit a brick. He’s not the greatest actor in the best of roles, and I don’t see him doing anything in an accent for shit.
    I could see Kevin McKidd as Mance, but he has red hair, which makes it difficult. Maybe Edmure?
    Ray Stevenson is a Greyjoy. That is indisputable.
    I could see James Purefoy as either Mance or Euron. He would kill at either of those roles.
    I’m a Rome fan, if you haven’t noticed.

  542. sham
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 3:34 am | Permalink

    Daario=Vincent Cassel

  543. Rimshot
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 5:41 am | Permalink

    Knurk: don’t worry mate, most of us here do really appreciate the hard work.

    Thanks! It’s just a hard stereotype to shake.

  544. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 5:57 am | Permalink

    Knurk: what I meant was that you’re taking meaning from her words that shouldn’t be taken from them.

    And you know this how? While none of us was in her head , I was the one being addressed to, and to me it was pretty clear. I don’t know how you can be so sure as to call me on it

    The way you phrase it it’s like she’s attacking you while reading it objectively she is merely stating some valid points in the discussion no matter which side you are on, yet somehow you took them a little too personal and felt the need to respond to Mimsy with condescension.

    Well I was talking mainly about Arthur , not her…she is the one that lashed out at me and made it personal, like specifically talking about me. It’s note like “somehow I took them a little to personal” out of the blue…

    And if according to you “I felt the need to respond with condescension” is because I thought it was less ofensive than to go her route ans start calling people names ;)

    Btw, do you realize u did exactly the same? talking to me with condescension…but of course it’s always easier to see tha straw in someone’s else’s eye and not the beam in your own (is that even english? ver la paja en el ojo ajeno i no la viga en el propio we say in spanish..)

    At the end of the day I guess it’s just a matter of perception…I felt offended by her words, that’s why I responded. You felt the need to interfere (who gave you a candle in this wake btw? I definitelly think this is not english :P) not sure why and you call me on it because you thought what I thought she meant is not what she meant, without being sure of either what I thought or what she meant, and on the other hand you had no qualms interpreting my words as condescending…see what I mean? ;)

    But I don’t cast a stone and then hide away (tirar la piedra i esconder la mano?), blaming it into other people’s incapacity to understand , so if my tone offended you, I apologize, both to you and to Mimsy.

  545. DirtyDogFace
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 6:12 am | Permalink

    I wonder if the HBO series will correct the error in the book….that takes place around the Red Viper. I will try to talk without giving spoilers to non-readers but the Trial by battle that the Red Viper took part in I think had a misstep. The Mountain should of not been in it, it had to be a member of the Kingsgaurd. In a DwD it is a big deal for a couple of the royalty family. I thought the Trial by battle that the Red Viper was in was a fantablous part and it is the early lead into of Sir Robert Strong aka Frankenstien so maybe they will just omit the regulation that a member of the Kingsgaurd has to represent the royal family….I dunno but please cast the Red Viper!!!!
    Lars,

  546. Andrew
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 6:38 am | Permalink

    DirtyDogFace,

    Well, in ADWD, it was only insisted upon because Cersei made sure it was insisted upon. The new high sparrow is super pious, and it worked to the crowns advantage to bring up the tradition. At the time of the third book, the high septon was a corrupt puppet and nobody else really cared, so it wasnt enforced.

  547. ieiazel
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    Pau Soriano:
    is that even english? ver la paja en el ojo ajeno i no la viga en el propio we say in spanish..)

    tirar la piedra i esconder la mano?

    It’s “ver la paja en el ojo ajeno Y no la viga en el propio” and “tirar la piedra Y esconder la mano”. Please, learn how to use your own language.

  548. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    ieiazel: It’s “ver la paja en el ojo ajeno Y no la viga en el propio” and“tirar la piedra Y esconder la mano”. Please, learn how to use your own language.

    That’s not my own language, sorry to inform you. I learned spanish in school, not at home. My language is catalan, wich I couldn’t learn at school. I use i instead of y as an statement…

    Btw, a ti quien te ha dado vela en este entierro? ;)

  549. Pablo
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    Hello. Since Melissandre said to Stannis that his wife hadn’t given any children, ould it be that the 11 year old girl they are looking would take the roll of Missandei, the greatest cup-server a Mother of Dragons could ask?

  550. ieiazel
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Then you should start using Catalan proverbs to illustrate your thoughts, and don’t bother with the use of “i”: 99% of the people don’t understand your brave statements and 100% don’t care.

    Nadie me ha dado vela en este entierro, es verdad, pero como te veo despotricar contra los que critican la serie o no tienen la misma opinión que tú en todos y cada uno de los threads, pues me autoimpongo la misión de bajarte un poco los humos. No te lo tomes a mal, pero es que haces lo mismo en todas las entradas…

  551. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    ieiazel:
    Then you should start using Catalan proverbs to illustrate your thoughts

    Why? ;)

  552. Blaat
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    Pablo,

    I thought Melisandre said no sons, not no children.

  553. ieiazel
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Pau Soriano,

    Oh, because it’s your own language :)

  554. Kingthlayer
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    NOC:
    If Ron Pearlman gets a part, I will shit a brick.He’s not the greatest actor in the best of roles, and I don’t see him doing anything in an accent for shit.

    Have you seen The Name of the Rose? Mr. Perlman does an amazing job playing a character that muddles 4 or 5 different languages together. Accents wouldn’t be problem for him. I feel like he’s the type of actor that is way better than the parts he gets. If you haven’t read it I would strongly suggest reading the book “The Name of the Rose” by Umberto Eco. The movie is based off of it but watch the movie first. If you read the book and then watch the movie it will only make you mad.

  555. Superdeluxe
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Which is why I think they will be cast in the series.

    Kate: Honestly: I don’t see the need to introduce the Reeds based in the storyline from books 2 to 5. We don’t know wha’ts to happen in the last two books, but given that D&D know how the series end and they are consulting with GRRM, don’t you think that they’d kept the characters if they were instrumental to the story’s core?

  556. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    ieiazel:
    Pau Soriano,

    Oh, because it’s your own language :)

    So? ;)

  557. GG
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    DOMINIC WEST FOR MANCE RAYDAR !!

  558. clare
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Damryn of Dorne:
    Just bring conan back for the mountain… i dont like skinny gregor

    PLEASE bring Conan back & I promise not to complain about any of the actors ever again! (even Melisandre, Ros & Shae!!)

  559. userj
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    Pablo,
    I certainly hope they cast Missandei. She’s one of the best characters in Essos. Plus the scene where she is introduced (Dany’s lost-in-translation ruse) is absolutely priceless.

    11 would be about the right age, too…

    I certainly hope that we get both Shireen and Missandei but if I could only have one, I’d pick the latter. :)

  560. andrea
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    userj: I’d pick the latter. :)

    me too. Love that girl.

  561. FlayedManofBK
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Lord Jon,

    none taken. if our positions were switched, I’d be skeptical too. We’ll all be watching Sunday so curse me up and down the boards if I’m lying.

  562. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    userj: Pablo,I certainly hope they cast Missandei. She’s one of the best characters in Essos. Plus the scene where she is introduced (Dany’s lost-in-translation ruse) is absolutely priceless. 11 would be about the right age, too…I certainly hope that we get both Shireen and Missandei but if I could only have one, I’d pick the latter. :)

    Hope that scene survives since it seems Valyrian doesn’t exist in the show.

  563. Dogmayor
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    There was a show about the Dothraki language and the guy who created it on CNN last month and the guy heavily implied that he is going to do more languages for the show.

  564. leandro
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Yes!! I love the Sand Snakes Kingthlayer,

  565. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    Dogmayor: Steven Swanson, There was a show about the Dothraki language and the guy who created it on CNN last month and the guy heavily implied that he is going to do more languages for the show.

    I sure hope so, was actually surprised they hadn’t started something like that already. The fact that all the Qarthians speak fluent “common” is just a little too Star Trek for me, minus universal translators or whatever.

  566. ThePinkDragon
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    Well, I dunno — wouldn’t a merchant class like that in Qarth benefit from speaking a whole bunch of languages fluently?

  567. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    If we must insist on having Meera then they need to go with Sarah Bolger.

    For Daario I say bring back Elyes Gabel but give him a beard ;-p

  568. hilmann
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    AlexBaratheon,

    well, they could just use camera angles to make humans look like giants, the way Peter Jackson did with the hobbits in LOTR

  569. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 1:24 am | Permalink

    Ok then….Sean Harris for Beric Dondarrion.

  570. loco73
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 2:41 am | Permalink

    Though this is not related with the thread, there is another bit of “casting” that should be done on this show, and that is the music. Ramin Djawadi needs to go and fast. I accepted his work on the first season, and he has created the openning theme and a few other good themes, but I feel that the show is growing and expanding but his music isn’t!

    Ramin Djawadi has to be replaced, I still think that Jeff Beal (“ROME”) or Harry Gregson-Williams (“Kingdom Of Heaven”) could easily take over and surpass anything Djawadi has done so far on the show. Of course ideally I would still like to see Bear McCreary take over the musical reigns, but that probably won’t happen.

    I recently listened to McCreary’s work on “Battlestar Galactica” four full seasons plus the movies “Razor” and “The Plan” as well as the short-lived but awesome prequel “Caprica” That man’s work is tremendous to say the least, breathtaking is a better word, in its beauty, complexity and variety. It is truly a monumental work. Just listen to Season 3 track3 “Admiral and Commander”, Track 5 “Refugees Return” or Track 7 “Violence and Variations” as some examples. It is quite easy to imagine what could have been had we had him at the helm since the beginning…its not too late still.

    Anyways, whatever the decision, I still feel that Djawadi served his purpose reasonably well and did do a good job on the first season, but he has to go!

  571. Stephen
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    I watched both Lost and Brotherhood and FF was awful in them both. Please please keep her away from GoT

  572. Daniel
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    loco73,

    No Ramin should stay, I absolutely love the score he’s doing for GOT. It fits perfectly for the show.

  573. Durendaele
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Val : Annabelle wallis from the Tudors.

  574. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Ramin Djawadi is an essential part of the show replacing him is a ridiculous idea.

  575. Langkard
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Yes, Brotherhood was great. Sadly, I think it was poorly marketed and a bit ahead of its time. If it had premiered now instead of 5 years ago, I think it might have caught a bigger audience. It was going head-to-head with the last few seasons of The Sopranos and just couldn’t hold its own.

    andrea,

    Waking Ned Devine. A wonderful movie. Fionnula Flanagan is always awesome; but she really shines in that little gem of a movie.

  576. bon
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 6:30 pm | Permalink
  577. Arya Dunyett
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    bon,

    Bon
    This is some fantastic news!! The first confirmation of a flashback!!
    Thanks for posting!

  578. loco73
    Posted May 6, 2012 at 2:24 am | Permalink

    Daniel,

    The idea is ridiculous to you, and that’s fine. To me his music is becoming stale and attaining a mediocre quality. We are half-way through the second season and so far there’s been no memorable theme. His Iron Island musical theme is tepid at best, the one for Qarth just weird and the Harrenhal one mediocre at best.

    In fact that pretty much characterizes Djawadi’s prior work…mediocre and lacklustre. I will give him the fact that the openning GoT theme music is good as is the Stark and Targaryen bits.

    As I said, I liked what he did the first season for GoT, but he definitely HAS to go. Now to you that is ridiculous, to me it isn’t. Difference of opinion and taste I guess…lets just leave it at that.

  579. loco73
    Posted May 6, 2012 at 2:30 am | Permalink

    Langkard,

    “Brotherhood” was an amazing show, definitely underrated and badly promoted. I think Showtime really fouled up that show, especially given the fact that it was perhaps one of the best they ever had in their line-up (they did the same with “Dead Like Me’). Great cast, I think that GoT would definitely benefit from some of the former castmembers joining GoT.

    People might think that I’m crazy for saying this, but I always thought that “Brotherhood” was better than “The Sopranos”…something I still believe to this day…My family were never sold on “The Sopranos”, but literally devoured “Brotherhood” when they got their paws on my DVD’s….

  580. Daniel
    Posted May 6, 2012 at 2:32 am | Permalink

    Arya Dunyett,

    You won’t get to see him, he played the Mad King in the original pilot from season 1. He was cut.

  581. Andre
    Posted May 6, 2012 at 3:01 am | Permalink

    Question to you Mr Kingslayer. Do you or know anyone who can send meg seson 2
    Of games of thrones? Me and my wife Are Big fan of it but we Are so far behind her in Norway.
    Regards Andre.

  582. loco73
    Posted May 6, 2012 at 3:11 am | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    The idea is ridiculous to you, and that’s fine. To me his music is becoming stale and attaining a mediocre quality. We are half-way through the second season and so far there’s been no memorable theme. His Iron Island musical theme is tepid at best, the one for Qarth just weird and the Harrenhal one mediocre at best.

    In fact that pretty much characterizes Djawadi’s prior work…mediocre and lacklustre. I will give him the fact that the openning GoT theme music is good as is the Stark and Targaryen bits.

    As I said, I liked what he did the first season for GoT, but he definitely HAS to go. Now to you that is ridiculous, to me it isn’t. Difference of opinion and taste I guess…lets just leave it at that.

  583. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 6, 2012 at 3:15 am | Permalink

    loco73,

    Yeah I am going to have to disagree with you on Djawadi as well. And this is coming from someone who is not a fan prior to this. At all. As Someone who loves film music so much that he drove 11 hours down from Canada to southern Massachusetts just to see John Williams with the Boston Pops.

    Sorry that you don’t like him and that’s cool and all (film music like many types of music is very subjective) but in my personal opinion Djawadi has done stellar work this season. The malevolent interpretation of the King’s Arrival at the end of “The North Remembers” set against the montage of the culling of Robert’s bastards, the haunting, creepy and powerful motif for Stannis/Melisandre, the soaring Iron Islands music a great counterpoint to the non-heroics taking place on screen , the Stark theme from season 1 so ancient and so noble, the modest notes of Dany’s theme early in season 1 reaching the awesome crescendo in “Fire and Blood”, the theme song, the actual use of leitmotif being more prevalent throughout the season. I got literal goosebumps when Stannis’ theme soared with bittersweet triumph and ominous undertone as his ship’s appeared off the coast of the Stormlands, made even more magnificent with that shot of Baelish watching from the cliffs.

    I do love Bear McCreary and was one of many that hoped he would get the scoring duties, when I heard that Djawadi was given the reins I was miffed, but then I heard the theme song (so unlike him) in that 15 minute preview that aired a week before the series premiere and the rest of his work. Hands down his best work and season 2 is only strengthening his work on GoT.

    I pray to the Seven, Rhl’lorr, the Red God, the Drowned God and the Old Gods that your pleas are duly ignored. Sorry.

    PS: other great television composers: Trevor Morris and Michael Giacchino. Jeff Beal’s Rome music was great too.

  584. loco73
    Posted May 6, 2012 at 4:29 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor: pray to the Seven, Rhl’lorr, the Red God, the Drowned God and the Old Gods that your pleas are duly ignored. Sorry.

    LOL…That’s ok! Don’t get me wrong, it is not like I dislike the man personally or anything of the sort, not do I question his musical skills (kind of hard to do since I myself have none LOlL).

    He did a good job in Season One, so much so, that when time came I freaking pre-ordered the soundtrack, I have the CD, I also have it on my IPod and listen to it quite frequently. I did listen to some of his previous work, and just as is the case with Season Two, there is something lacking in it, it just doesn’t pull me in.

    Djawadi strikes me as a cog-in-the-wheel type of composer. He is a capable one, does what is asked and expected of him, but rarely goes beyond that, he just doesn’t seem able to rise above the norm, except in some of the examples you’ve cited from Season One.

    People like McCreary, Howard Shore, Jerry Goldsmith, Henry Mancini, Enio Moriccone or John Williams understand what is required of them, but they take that and run with it, creating much more than “the expected”. Their music adds soo much more depth and weight to whatever project its attached to. Even Hans Zimmerman, Djawadi’s mentor, does that ocassionally, his “Gladiator” soundtrack was none too shabby, and “The Thin Red Line” is perhaps his best work ever.

    If I had never watched the LOTR trilogy, or heard about the re-booted “Battlestar Galactica” series, but heard the music, I would have appreciated it on its own. Can’t say the same about Djawadi…

    There are also other talented composers outhere, Rob Lane, Joseph Vitarelli (they did the “John Adams” soundtrack) Tyler Bates, Alexandre Desplat, Cliff Martinez just to name a few…just saying there are other options…

    PS. Have you ever heard Randy Edelman’s “Dragonheart” soundtrack? If so what did you think of it?

  585. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 6, 2012 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    loco73,

    With the exception of David Thewliss’ villain and the lovely Dina Meyer (what happened to her?) Randy Edelman’s soaring score was the best thing about Dragonheart.

    Indeed, Djawadi is one of the many Zimmerclones out there including Harry Gregson-Williams. One can make the distinction that the Hans Zimmer approach to film scoring is “brooding” as opposed to traditional leitmotif and brassier scores used for genre films (ie: John Williams, Michael Giacchino (a more modern example), Jerry Goldsmith, Basil Poledouris, Miklos Rosza, John Barry and the New Age Williams Howard Shore).

    Even with his more ethnic stylings and love of string, piano and deep percussion, McCreary seems to have a traditionalist basis. But as intense and misanthropic that BSG could sometimes get (most of the time) to me in the end it was not nearly as cynical in tone as Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire. GoT is not a swashbuckling adventure, at least not to me it is a view on the human condition what is best and worst in mankind, a meditation on power. I’ll stop there lest I sound like one of Pearson Moore’s essays.
    To me the world should be moody, ethereal and bombastic when it serves. Would I disagree that someone else can do a better job than Djawadi? No I would not, but I personally think that Djawadi is knocking it out of the park this season. Last year when I saw the first couple of eps, beyond the man theme and Robert’s music most of the music was Gladiator-esque and it wasn’t until episode 9 when Robb and his army crossed the Trident that I was like, yeah this is awesome…in which I bought the soundtrack and have loved the entire thing. It has this Kingdom of Heaven combined with the moodiness and pathos of Mark Snow or Chris Tilton whose work on Fringe is exemplary especially how he weaves individual themes together to form grander themes.

    The first thing I noticed about season 2 beyond it’s wow epic scale was Djawadi’s music especially when he used Robert’s entry music from season 1 at the end of the “North Remembers” to place a sad, malevolent coda on the end of Robert’s bloodline as the goldcloaks did their dirty business. And again I point to the Stannis theme, which is my favourite so far this season, wonderful piece of music, so simple yet so defining for the character in its naked power. As for it’s connection to Melisandre I hope it is used later in the narrative as well in connection to other characters…
    Then there is the Iron Islands theme which I agree could have been a little more interesting but I have a feeling the producers did not want to go for malevolently playful with the Ironborn so they went with counterpoint instead. It actually gives dignity to Theon as a human being invoking the idea that there are reasons for Theon’s behaviour. We also hear the first stirring of a Tyrell signature theme when Margaery “visits” Renly in his tent. A string piece with machiavellian yet courtly undertones which is what the Tyrells are all about. Again to me he is increasing the musical tapestry to this fabulous adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire. So I don’t see how it could be said that he’s not expanding his repertoire.

    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. In fairness I will say that nabbing Chris Tilton after Fringe ends next year and having him score the series would not be a bad idea.Also Brian Tyler who arranged the incredible score for The Children of Dune miniseries + Djawadi’s signature themes= happy music brain explosion. Or any composer really. Just as long as they keep the themes/the blueprint that Djawadi has started. This is the main reason why I don’t want a new composer, because every time that happens the new composer usually abandons what has already been instilled in the soundscape of the franchise/series and goes in a completely different (re: egotistical) direction to approach the project.

    Great Zimmer scores to check out:

    Crimson Tide
    The Rock
    The Lion King
    The Ring
    The Da Vinci Code
    Sherlock Holmes

  586. Toni_from_Tallahasse
    Posted May 6, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    ieiazel,

    Steve,

    Muy bien dicho. Baja los humos, catalán

  587. Sword of the Morning
    Posted May 7, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if she could do the (an) accent, but what about Zoe Kravitz for Arianne Martell? Or Freida Pinto?

  588. everyonelovesdee
    Posted May 7, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Dogmayor: morbiczer,

    Bran and Rickon could stick together, with Osha taking over for the Reeds, until the wall, where Bran will go North with Coldhands and Rickon will go off with Osha. Or we might get the Reeds, who knows.

      

    [spoiler] They could but than that would really mess up ADWD when Manderlys ask Davos to find Rickon. Which comes across as another separate plot line the GRRM is pursuing. [spoiler]

  589. GreatJonUnderfoot
    Posted May 7, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Caro Herrera,

    This is a spoiler if you haven’t read the books, but this might be a possible role for tom hiddleston The long lost infant Aegon

  590. Maria Batsiou
    Posted May 7, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Since he was mentioned in the latest episode, we do not need to worry about the casting of some bastard we all love to hate! Ramsey is coming to flay whoever has secrets!

  591. Arriba
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    Couldn’t be that 11 year old girl Missandei? I doubt Stannis’ daughter will appear since she does not appear on second season.

  592. drinkingjacket
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Daario is essential to the HBO series, but perhaps not to the plot of the novels. I wouldn’t look too deeply into rumors of his casting meaning some massive role in the books to come, I think its more to give Dany a love interest again, and to give the audience someone to unabashedly cheer for. Daario gets to say, kill, fuck, whatever/whoever he wants, which is something that translates very well from the page to the screen. Non readers loved Drogo, they will feel the same way about Daario.
    Whereas characters like any of the Tully’s we haven’t seen, Edmure, Hoster, or The Blackfish, while important to the books, don’t necessitate screen time for now.

    I love the idea of Mads Mikelson as Euron, thats just so perfect. And, I may invite criticism and he probably commands to high a salary now, but I always thought of Michael Sheen as Mance. Probably because of the silliness of Underworld, but I can totally see him sitting in a tent surrounded by Wildlings playing music.

  593. Paola
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Conor,
    Joe Manganiello would be cool but i would love to see Ewan cast as Edmure.

  594. erasure25
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    morbiczer,
    Or Bran and Rickon will travel together, meet Sam at the Wall, and Osha will refuse to go north of the wall and then split off with Rickon towards Skaagos while Bran, Hodor and Sam (and eventually Coldhands) go north.

  595. Winterfell Burning
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Lars: Doubtful. There is no need for him until season 4 – but it depends where they shuffle ASOS plot threads for the season 3 end.

    No, he needs to appear in S03, otherwise him volunteering to fight Gregor feels forced without any build-up, and the outcome is more obvious. Plus, I’m betting that S3 ends with Joffrey being murdered and that other event doesn’t come much after it.

  596. Winterfell Burning
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    The Coldhands taking Bran and Hodor alone to North of the Wall makes no sense. Why would Osha leave the two of them alone? The only way this would work is if Coldhands is Benjen, but I don’t think he is, so unless they make a big change from the books, you need either the Reeds (the best option, IMO), or Luwin to take Rickon somewhere, with Bran staying with Osha

  597. Emma
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Do you know if it’s too late to send resume&picture ?

  598. Lisa Gouget
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    JamesL,

    oh, yes, please!!!! this girl they cast for Asha’s role has NONE of her spark, het sassiness!!! She’s so flat… I don’t see her as the badass ironborn bitch that Asha is in the book!! I LOVE Asha, but sadly, HATE Yara!

  599. MATTHEW
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    john,

    Way too old. He’d be a good Qyburn or Kindly Man in Braavos

  600. MATTHEW
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    loco73: Though this is not related with the thread, there is another bit of “casting” that should be done on this show, and that is the music. Ramin Djawadi needs to go and fast. I accepted his work on the first season, and he has created the openning theme and a few other good themes, but I feel that the show is growing and expanding but his music isn’t! Ramin Djawadi has to be replaced, I still think that Jeff Beal (“ROME”) or Harry Gregson-Williams (“Kingdom Of Heaven”) could easily take over and surpass anything Djawadi has done so far on the show. Of course ideally I would still like to see Bear McCreary take over the musical reigns, but that probably won’t happen. I recently listened to McCreary’s work on “Battlestar Galactica” four full seasons plus the movies “Razor” and “The Plan” as well as the short-lived but awesome prequel “Caprica” That man’s work is tremendous to say the least, breathtaking is a better word, in its beauty, complexity and variety. It is truly a monumental work. Just listen to Season 3 track3 “Admiral and Commander”, Track 5 “Refugees Return” or Track 7 “Violence and Variations” as some examples. It is quite easy to imagine what could have been had we had him at the helm since the beginning…its not too late still.Anyways, whatever the decision, I still feel that Djawadi served his purpose reasonably well and did do a good job on the first season, but he has to go!

    loco73,

    Sorry you’re not digging the music. I love the Melisandre/Stannis theme–unsettling, mournful and anxiety-inducing, with just four notes

  601. Brodor
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    Mimsy: What’s disgusting to us in this day and age was perfectly natural in earlier times. My grandmother (born 1900) met her husband when she was 14 and he was 27. They were married for some 25 years before he passed away due to an accident. Their marriage was respectful and loving and she loved him until she passed away at 91 years of age. I certainly wouldn’t approve of my daughter marrying so young in this day and age, but back in the day and Westeros time, it’s perfectly natural to not be on the “shelf” past a certain age.

    “due to an accident”? Are you sure your grandma didn’t cut the pedo’s throat one night as he slept, aftetr having a painful flashback? That’s kind of what happened in Boardwalk Empire

  602. Adogs
    Posted May 13, 2012 at 2:17 am | Permalink

    From GRRM’s website:

    “Casting is in full swing for the new season, so I’m watching auditions every night. Froggy may be turning up soon, but don’t hold your breath. I’m too busy to devote much time to whipping up obscure clues.”

    Does Froggy = the Reeds? Or am I missing an obvious reference to something else?

  603. Annamaria
    Posted May 13, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Hi! Can you help me in how can I register as a procession man for season3 in dubrovnik? I live in Hungary close to the croatian border and it’s my dream to be in game of thrones so please help me if you can :)
    Thanks:

    Annamaria

  604. Datiko
    Posted May 13, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    I think Froggy was nickname of Quenteen, was it?

  605. Abyss
    Posted May 13, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Adogs,
    Datiko,

    Froggy is GRRMs avatar for casting clues in general. Take a look. ;-)

  606. ginny stuart
    Posted May 15, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    I think Gerard Butler would be perfect for Daario!

  607. Gina
    Posted May 15, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    -Ewan McGregor for Edmure
    -Cillian Murohy for Reek
    -Madds Mikkelson for Mance Rayder

  608. Gina
    Posted May 15, 2012 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Paola,

    I agree! Ewan would make an excellent Edmure.

  609. Ulfhedinn
    Posted May 18, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Kristoffer Hivju just confirmed on Norwegian television that the audition yesterday went well and the producers called him back with enthusiasm.
    He almost managed to save his beard for his role in the movie After Earth, in spite of Will Smith’s orders, so I guess he is up for a bearded role this time.

  610. Mimsy
    Posted May 18, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Brodor: Brodor
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Permalink
    Mimsy: What’s disgusting to us in this day and age was perfectly natural in earlier times. My grandmother (born 1900) met her husband when she was 14 and he was 27. They were married for some 25 years before he passed away due to an accident. Their marriage was respectful and loving and she loved him until she passed away at 91 years of age. I certainly wouldn’t approve of my daughter marrying so young in this day and age, but back in the day and Westeros time, it’s perfectly natural to not be on the “shelf” past a certain age.

    “due to an accident”? Are you sure your grandma didn’t cut the pedo’s throat one night as he slept, aftetr having a painful flashback? That’s kind of what happened in Boardwalk Empire

    I don’t know if you’re trying to be funny or a total douche. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you’re trying to be funny.

    My grandfather had a ranch and was gored by a bull. He lived some weeks after the incident, but there was too much damage to his body for him to survive it. For you to suggest my grandmother was capable of murdering someone who was loving and respectful towards her, their children and neighbors is beyond bizarre.

  611. Brodor
    Posted May 19, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Mimsy: I don’t know if you’re trying to be funny or a total douche. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you’re trying to be funny. My grandfather had a ranch and was gored by a bull. He lived some weeks after the incident, but there was too much damage to his body for him to survive it. For you to suggest my grandmother was capable of murdering someone who was loving and respectful towards her, their children and neighbors is beyond bizarre.

    King Robert was also maimed to death by an animal. Do you think Cersei is going to tell *her* grandchildren what really happened? Could be you don’t have the whole story. Being boinked by an old man when you’re 14 years old does traumatic stuff to your pshyche whether the year is 1999, 1900, or 19. Even if she grew to love him, the trauma is still there.

  612. AJ Resh
    Posted May 19, 2012 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    serum,
    serum,

    Daniel Day Lewis… this is why Casting Agents are so important.

  613. Mimsy
    Posted May 19, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Brodor,

    Now you’re comparing her to Cersei? lol Wow, you are delusional. You watch too much tv. Thanks for the laugh.

  614. Max Stark
    Posted May 22, 2012 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    While reading the books, I kinda pictured Oberyn Martell as native american. A mix between the guy from Red Hot Chili Peppers and Wind in His Hair from Dances with Wolves.

  615. Max Stark
    Posted May 22, 2012 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Kristoffer Hivju, could be one of the Thenns. The Wildling clan Jon Snow is sent on a mission across the Wall with. The one who were married to Val the Wildling princess (Styr?)

  616. Max Stark
    Posted May 22, 2012 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Johnny Depp as Mance Raider.

  617. Ecto1
    Posted May 22, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Max Stark,

    *rolleyes*

    Orson Welles as Jon Connington hurr durr.

  618. Jared
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Henry Ian Cusick as Mance Rayder

  619. Sarah
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    Daniel,

    Khal Drago???

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